This might explain his recent lapse of memory (maybe someone else has taken over the project)? :
Please watch for our new ANN page that will be posted soon.
Topic: Carnomic - FAKE TEAM (Read 283 times)
@Slow death
This might explain his recent lapse of memory (maybe someone else has taken over the project)? :
This might explain his recent lapse of memory (maybe someone else has taken over the project)? :
Hello, all!
I am Sean Winter, the new CMO for Carnomic. I just stumbled upon this and wanted to try to clear some things up.
I am Sean Winter, the new CMO for Carnomic. I just stumbled upon this and wanted to try to clear some things up.
this thread is from: " October 11, 2018, 08:34:42 PM "
looking for your post history, it seems that they had already given up on the project since this thread was created, so today you come and say that you came to clarify some things?
Hello, all!
I am Sean Winter, the new CMO for Carnomic. I just stumbled upon this and wanted to try to clear some things up.
I totally understand why the above issues would be viewed as a scam, and luckily the project didn't go thru with the ICO at the time with those issues. Quite a few changes have been made since this was posted.
I can assure everyone the team is entirely real, our advisors are all real, and our project, more importantly, is real and will be a success.
Plagiarism is not cool and all instances will be dealt with. Our model and platform is unparalleled so there is absolutely no need for it.
Instead of an ICO we will be having an IEO on a yet unnamed exchange.
We will also do a quarterly audit to ensure our raised funds are safe and being managed properly. This is required for foundations registered in Singapore, which ours is. All storage addresses(public keys) will be completely transparent and posted for all to find.
Please watch for our new ANN page that will be posted soon.
Thanks for reading and sorry for any past confusion or inconveniences!
I am Sean Winter, the new CMO for Carnomic. I just stumbled upon this and wanted to try to clear some things up.
I totally understand why the above issues would be viewed as a scam, and luckily the project didn't go thru with the ICO at the time with those issues. Quite a few changes have been made since this was posted.
I can assure everyone the team is entirely real, our advisors are all real, and our project, more importantly, is real and will be a success.
Plagiarism is not cool and all instances will be dealt with. Our model and platform is unparalleled so there is absolutely no need for it.
Instead of an ICO we will be having an IEO on a yet unnamed exchange.
We will also do a quarterly audit to ensure our raised funds are safe and being managed properly. This is required for foundations registered in Singapore, which ours is. All storage addresses(public keys) will be completely transparent and posted for all to find.
Please watch for our new ANN page that will be posted soon.
Thanks for reading and sorry for any past confusion or inconveniences!
ICO business must be very profitable. I see employers in upwork hiring a lot of writers for rewriting whitepapers. I should know because I have tried applying to those employers. Alarming because they are first asking my bitcointalk account before they proceed to asking regular question as an employer. These must be the guys who hire someone in the job site for their scam but this one obviously didn't hire a good writer to proof read and edit plagiarism.
Hi again ICOEthics,
Hi dear Bitcointalk community,
thanks for your reply. I don't really want to answer all you wrote in your second message, since I don't want to feel "argue" about all so it might look I try to defend myself, but I will answer to clearify it for Participants in our ICO (Token Sale).
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https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-i-choose-a-lazy-person-to-do-a-hard-job-because-a-lazy-person-will-find-an-easy-way-bill-gates-48-35-76.jpg
Do you think, people will now not invest in Microsoft?
Khorede have the technical skills we need so we agreed to work with him and have him as a team member. Till now, for the job he done and do, we are totally ok with that. With "lazy" I was pointing out the priorization in terms of going and make a nice Foto. But again, we never wanted to steel any Identity and we will update the Foto later that day, so I hope you see we are "true".
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9. ... to "not give a second", even we didnt had really a first chance to kind of clearify things, is a little bit unfair and "dick head" (please don't take is as a bad word, I mean it more in an atitude way). We didn't say your "research or work" was not good, but you should get to the point and see, that we show up and stay to our word.
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Participants, who are interested to invest in our Project, are welcome to ask me / us any question. You can also join our Social Media groups and feel free to ask. Again: we are TRUE and EXISTING ...
We wish you all a nice day and thanks for taking your time.
Sincrely, Aki
Hi dear Bitcointalk community,
thanks for your reply. I don't really want to answer all you wrote in your second message, since I don't want to feel "argue" about all so it might look I try to defend myself, but I will answer to clearify it for Participants in our ICO (Token Sale).
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We are doing this to protect the community and investors from fraudsters/scammers.
- I understand that, but my question "why" was more about the fact without any contact or information to us to even have the chance to clearify some things. 2.
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Really, Not fake?
- Yes, really 3.
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First of all, we never called you a FAKE Member as you see on the first post your name and image matched.
- You are right. You called my LinkedIn Profile as a Fake, which I considered that you also cal "me" a Fake. But also that I hope its clear now.4.
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And you asked not to be confused when a member of your team has different names. We are already confused.
- Yes, I understand that and this is why I clearyfied things. Yaxin is not a Scam, she is real and she exist. We apologized (already) for the irritation and do it here again.5.
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If you call a member of you team “lazy team members” we don’t think anyone would want to invest in a company that have lazy members,
- Oh, I disagree with you at this point. To give you a quote from Bill Gates: https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-i-choose-a-lazy-person-to-do-a-hard-job-because-a-lazy-person-will-find-an-easy-way-bill-gates-48-35-76.jpg
Do you think, people will now not invest in Microsoft?
Khorede have the technical skills we need so we agreed to work with him and have him as a team member. Till now, for the job he done and do, we are totally ok with that. With "lazy" I was pointing out the priorization in terms of going and make a nice Foto. But again, we never wanted to steel any Identity and we will update the Foto later that day, so I hope you see we are "true".
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Also as you said “Secondly, we are NOT fake”
- Yes, and I will say it again: We are True and existing 7.
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STEALING SOMEONE’S IDENTITY IS A CRIME
- I agree with you and my apologize again here. We didn't want to do anything like that on purpose. 8.
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You were in such a hurry to start selling your tokens and make money that you didn’t bother to check for plagiarism.
- No, we was and are not really "in a hurry", but we treid to work "efficient" and as a human, we also do mistakes, which no one is free off. So for that, it's not fair to call people "Scam", but that is your own oppinion.9.
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We don’t give a second chance to a scammer. Especially because a team member stole someone’s identity. Unfortunately(or fortunately) we will not take down the scam accusation.
- We are fine with that, since this is your own oppinion. But here you say it again, that we are "scam", but we are True and Real ... to "not give a second", even we didnt had really a first chance to kind of clearify things, is a little bit unfair and "dick head" (please don't take is as a bad word, I mean it more in an atitude way). We didn't say your "research or work" was not good, but you should get to the point and see, that we show up and stay to our word. 10.
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You can ask moderators on this forum to convince us to take down the scam accusation against your ICO.
- No, we will definately not force anyone to do something. This is YOUR opinion and if YOU don't change your opionion, it's ok. Participants, who are interested to invest in our Project, are welcome to ask me / us any question. You can also join our Social Media groups and feel free to ask. Again: we are TRUE and EXISTING
...We wish you all a nice day and thanks for taking your time.
Sincrely, Aki
Hello Mr. Periklis
First let me start answering to the message you sent to our email:
“Why are you doing this?”
We are doing this to protect the community and investors from fraudsters/scammers.
“Secondly, we are NOT fake”
Really, Not fake?
Lets see:
First of all, we never called you a FAKE Member as you see on the first post your name and image matched.
Now, lets talk about some of your team members.
Yaxin Luo or Cassidy Rowe
https://community.upwork.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1716046
https://www.freelancer.sg/u/cassidyrowe
And you asked not to be confused when a member of your team has different names. We are already confused.
Khorede
If you call a member of you team “lazy team members” we don’t think anyone would want to invest in a company that have lazy members, especially after you identified this person as a lazy member.
Also as you said “Secondly, we are NOT fake”
Look again: Image doesn’t match.
http://icoethics.com/imgs/carnomic/b2.JPG
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hore-hore-51b555138/
STEALING SOMEONE’S IDENTITY IS A CRIME
Plagiarism – ANY ICO plagiarizing their whitepaper or website is considered a scam.
You were in such a hurry to start selling your tokens and make money that you didn’t bother to check for plagiarism.
Our conclusion is:
We don’t give a second chance to a scammer. Especially because a team member stole someone’s identity. Unfortunately(or fortunately) we will not take down the scam accusation.
You can ask moderators on this forum to convince us to take down the scam accusation against your ICO.
First let me start answering to the message you sent to our email:
“Why are you doing this?”
We are doing this to protect the community and investors from fraudsters/scammers.
“Secondly, we are NOT fake”
Really, Not fake?
Lets see:
First of all, we never called you a FAKE Member as you see on the first post your name and image matched.
Now, lets talk about some of your team members.
Yaxin Luo or Cassidy Rowe
There you can also see her Western Name, please don't be confused ...
https://community.upwork.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1716046
https://www.freelancer.sg/u/cassidyrowe
And you asked not to be confused when a member of your team has different names. We are already confused.
Khorede
Khorede is one of the typical "lazy Team Members”
If you call a member of you team “lazy team members” we don’t think anyone would want to invest in a company that have lazy members, especially after you identified this person as a lazy member.
Also as you said “Secondly, we are NOT fake”
Look again: Image doesn’t match.
http://icoethics.com/imgs/carnomic/b2.JPG
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hore-hore-51b555138/
STEALING SOMEONE’S IDENTITY IS A CRIME
Plagiarism – ANY ICO plagiarizing their whitepaper or website is considered a scam.
You were in such a hurry to start selling your tokens and make money that you didn’t bother to check for plagiarism.
Our conclusion is:
We don’t give a second chance to a scammer. Especially because a team member stole someone’s identity. Unfortunately(or fortunately) we will not take down the scam accusation.
You can ask moderators on this forum to convince us to take down the scam accusation against your ICO.
Hi there Team ICOEthics,
Hi morvillz7z,
Hi Bitcointalk Community,
Thanks for the contact we had via E-Mail regarding our ICO and calling it a SCAM.
As we are not a SCAM, we want to clarify the Point you mentioned here, as I did already via E-Mail. Before doing this, I have to thank you as well for doing this "check", since it is a fact that we didn't finish all the details to really 110%, as this should be before starting to List on ICO Listings sites. We tried to safe a little bit Time and started the Listing already, even we didn't had all done. So, therefore I can definitely understand the concerns and this "woke us up" a little bit by being more careful with this, since we have a lot responsibility! So, let's start:
1. First of all, let’s talk about the CEO, Periklis Kalaitzis (which is myself)
LinkedIn Profile:
My Profile is definetely NOT a Fake. I don't know how many Years I have already this account there, but I just started to update the Information’s after I changed from Deutsche Bank, which was around mid of 2016. Therefore I "re-wrote" my CV and also made it in English. For my Cover Letter I found several "Templates" which were free to use and I picked a few parts which described me good. Since I didn't took this from the Profile of Saif Moiz Siddiqui, I can imagine he might also use this template for his Profile
Periklis Kalaitzis - the Dancer / Sportsman:
Yes, you are totally right. Beside my Main job in the Financial Industry over 14 Years, I am a former Dancer and Teacher in Salsa. Starting to discover my Passion for this Dance in 2010, I quickly became a good Dancer and archived to be World Champion 2011 in Salsa. After that, I was in several TV Show and Performing around the World. If you "Google or YouTube" my Dancer Name - Aki Kalaitzis - you will find TONS of Video from my Dance. The Photo you found there was from the Olympic Team in Germany, which I am Part of as a Professional Sportsman and Dancer - and people would agree with me, when I say that "real Sportsmen" are always honest and fair, and this is what I am and also, my Career shows, that IF I have a Passion for something, I do it with 110 %! At this point, sorry again for the "not 110% finished" Website, but I will tell you more about that later...
2. Yaxin Luo
Yaxin is one of the Team Members, which I "recruited" over the Freelancer Platform "UpWork". We have several Chats and one Phone call (which I did with ALL!) and agreed on work together. Since now our ICO is not over and we didn't fundraised yet, the Team Member don't work "Full time" with us. The Story behind her second Profile at Freelancer and the name is easy to understand: quite EVERY Asian Person in this world use to have his own created "Western Name", you would agree 100% with me when you know Asian people living in Asia. Yaxin used her second name at this platform. I just asked her to change it there, to not confuse anyone. It is right now not possible, which she told me over WeChat, the Photo I can attach here, but I don’t see upload button to do that. There you can also see her Western Name, please don't be confused ...
3. Khorede
Khorede is one of the typical "lazy Team Members" every company has and we have to kick ass for getting in action. I contact him over the platform “Fiverr”, which is also a Freelancer platform and had the same procedure like with Yuxin. Beside his talent for Programming and App design he IS DEFINATELY a typical lazy person, who takes too long to send us the Info’s we need. For this facet, we have to apologize to the community and to you! Khorede has this "Placeholder Picture" which is not him, since I am waiting to get a "nice looking" Photo from him to update this. Also we will update his Link to the LinkedIn Profile, which I attached here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hore-hore-51b555138/
So, also Khorede is "true" and existing. We will update this Information’s as soon as possible, we are sorry for this confusion.
4. Plagiarism
A very complicated theme in the Internet is exactly this: plagiarism! Our Website is "born" out of a Template, which we purchased from https://softnio.com/. Our contact over there is Abu Bin Ishtiyak, [email protected]. We constantly have some changes we do and keep our Website updated. We also had a writer (freelancer) who help us to "re-write" the content on our Website. There are some small parts which "fits" from the Template we had, since Blockchain as it self-described in many ways and we "cannot invent the wheel new", so if there might be some sentences from the template and maybe someone has the same template, than it might look as Plagiarism, BUT it is not! We will take this chance at hire a Plagiarism Company to have a check of our content, so we will fix that! Apologies from us for this.
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Some additional Informations:
White Paper:
I also want to let you know, that our White Paper as well as our One Pager is now available and ready, have a look:
https://www.carnomic.io/wp/Carnomic-White-Paper-en.pdf
Advisor:
Regarding our Advisor I want to say, that we are not allowed yet to talk about "who" this might could be. We choose ONE Special Person, which is for us a very very strong Person with a very good Project currently running. As soon as we get the "ok" to announce him, we will inform you. This will really blow your mind ...
Legal Form:
We applied for our Legal Form as a "LVC – Liechtenstein Venture Cooperative" which should be finished around end of October. Since Liechtenstein is a very StartUp friendly country and even Binance LCX has launched a fiat-to-crypto exchange in Liechtenstein, we decide to ge there as well. If you want to find out about this legal form, please have a look here: https://impuls-liechtenstein.li/en/liechtenstein-venture-cooperative/
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Again, we are really sorry for confusing you and also very thankful for "open our eyes", since we were not that aware that our Project will be even noticed. We didn't start yet any Marketing since this is something we plan to start from Monday with full energy.
So, please let us know what else you need for Information from us. We hope to clarify things now and that you can change your decision about us being a SCAM ...
Thanks to all and have a great Day,
Sincerely, Aki
Hi morvillz7z,
Hi Bitcointalk Community,
Thanks for the contact we had via E-Mail regarding our ICO and calling it a SCAM.
As we are not a SCAM, we want to clarify the Point you mentioned here, as I did already via E-Mail. Before doing this, I have to thank you as well for doing this "check", since it is a fact that we didn't finish all the details to really 110%, as this should be before starting to List on ICO Listings sites. We tried to safe a little bit Time and started the Listing already, even we didn't had all done. So, therefore I can definitely understand the concerns and this "woke us up" a little bit by being more careful with this, since we have a lot responsibility! So, let's start:
1. First of all, let’s talk about the CEO, Periklis Kalaitzis (which is myself)
LinkedIn Profile:
My Profile is definetely NOT a Fake. I don't know how many Years I have already this account there, but I just started to update the Information’s after I changed from Deutsche Bank, which was around mid of 2016. Therefore I "re-wrote" my CV and also made it in English. For my Cover Letter I found several "Templates" which were free to use and I picked a few parts which described me good. Since I didn't took this from the Profile of Saif Moiz Siddiqui, I can imagine he might also use this template for his Profile
Periklis Kalaitzis - the Dancer / Sportsman:
Yes, you are totally right. Beside my Main job in the Financial Industry over 14 Years, I am a former Dancer and Teacher in Salsa. Starting to discover my Passion for this Dance in 2010, I quickly became a good Dancer and archived to be World Champion 2011 in Salsa. After that, I was in several TV Show and Performing around the World. If you "Google or YouTube" my Dancer Name - Aki Kalaitzis - you will find TONS of Video from my Dance. The Photo you found there was from the Olympic Team in Germany, which I am Part of as a Professional Sportsman and Dancer - and people would agree with me, when I say that "real Sportsmen" are always honest and fair, and this is what I am and also, my Career shows, that IF I have a Passion for something, I do it with 110 %! At this point, sorry again for the "not 110% finished" Website, but I will tell you more about that later...
2. Yaxin Luo
Yaxin is one of the Team Members, which I "recruited" over the Freelancer Platform "UpWork". We have several Chats and one Phone call (which I did with ALL!) and agreed on work together. Since now our ICO is not over and we didn't fundraised yet, the Team Member don't work "Full time" with us. The Story behind her second Profile at Freelancer and the name is easy to understand: quite EVERY Asian Person in this world use to have his own created "Western Name", you would agree 100% with me when you know Asian people living in Asia. Yaxin used her second name at this platform. I just asked her to change it there, to not confuse anyone. It is right now not possible, which she told me over WeChat, the Photo I can attach here, but I don’t see upload button to do that. There you can also see her Western Name, please don't be confused
...3. Khorede
Khorede is one of the typical "lazy Team Members" every company has and we have to kick ass for getting in action. I contact him over the platform “Fiverr”, which is also a Freelancer platform and had the same procedure like with Yuxin. Beside his talent for Programming and App design he IS DEFINATELY a typical lazy person, who takes too long to send us the Info’s we need. For this facet, we have to apologize to the community and to you! Khorede has this "Placeholder Picture" which is not him, since I am waiting to get a "nice looking" Photo from him to update this. Also we will update his Link to the LinkedIn Profile, which I attached here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hore-hore-51b555138/
So, also Khorede is "true" and existing. We will update this Information’s as soon as possible, we are sorry for this confusion.
4. Plagiarism
A very complicated theme in the Internet is exactly this: plagiarism! Our Website is "born" out of a Template, which we purchased from https://softnio.com/. Our contact over there is Abu Bin Ishtiyak, [email protected]. We constantly have some changes we do and keep our Website updated. We also had a writer (freelancer) who help us to "re-write" the content on our Website. There are some small parts which "fits" from the Template we had, since Blockchain as it self-described in many ways and we "cannot invent the wheel new", so if there might be some sentences from the template and maybe someone has the same template, than it might look as Plagiarism, BUT it is not! We will take this chance at hire a Plagiarism Company to have a check of our content, so we will fix that! Apologies from us for this.
---------------
Some additional Informations:
White Paper:
I also want to let you know, that our White Paper as well as our One Pager is now available and ready, have a look:
https://www.carnomic.io/wp/Carnomic-White-Paper-en.pdf
Advisor:
Regarding our Advisor I want to say, that we are not allowed yet to talk about "who" this might could be. We choose ONE Special Person, which is for us a very very strong Person with a very good Project currently running. As soon as we get the "ok" to announce him, we will inform you. This will really blow your mind
... Legal Form:
We applied for our Legal Form as a "LVC – Liechtenstein Venture Cooperative" which should be finished around end of October. Since Liechtenstein is a very StartUp friendly country and even Binance LCX has launched a fiat-to-crypto exchange in Liechtenstein, we decide to ge there as well. If you want to find out about this legal form, please have a look here: https://impuls-liechtenstein.li/en/liechtenstein-venture-cooperative/
---------------
Again, we are really sorry for confusing you and also very thankful for "open our eyes", since we were not that aware that our Project will be even noticed. We didn't start yet any Marketing since this is something we plan to start from Monday with full energy.
So, please let us know what else you need for Information from us. We hope to clarify things now and that you can change your decision about us being a SCAM
...Thanks to all and have a great Day,
Sincerely, Aki
What happened: FAKE TEAM
Scammers Website: http://carnomic.io
http://web.archive.org/web/20181011194812/http://carnomic.io
credits to morvillz7z for helping with this research.
Yaxin Luo=Other name found: Cassidy Rowe
https://www.freelancer.sg/u/cassidyrowe
Khorede - stock video from gettyimages:
Image is from a video – check the video bellow at 1:05 minutes https://ruclip.com/video/SoaBy0_eiZ0/nasdaq-corporate-solutions-vision.html
https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/video/business-man-clapping-hands-at-conference-south-stock-video-footage/97371523
Periklis Kalaitzis - looks like a salsa dancer.
https://worldgames2013.sportresult.com/NH/en/60/Participant/ParticipantInfo/818d5999-fcbe-44f2-adcb-4fccf4e3c7af
Periklis Kalaitzis - LinkedIn profile is fake, content copied from Saif Moiz Siddiqui
https://www.linkedin.com/in/saifmoizsiddiqui/
Some plagiarism, probably a lot more..
https://www.scribd.com/document/40133701/2
SALES:
Scammers Website: http://carnomic.io
http://web.archive.org/web/20181011194812/http://carnomic.io
credits to morvillz7z for helping with this research.
Yaxin Luo=Other name found: Cassidy Rowe
https://www.freelancer.sg/u/cassidyrowe
Khorede - stock video from gettyimages:
Image is from a video – check the video bellow at 1:05 minutes https://ruclip.com/video/SoaBy0_eiZ0/nasdaq-corporate-solutions-vision.html
https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/video/business-man-clapping-hands-at-conference-south-stock-video-footage/97371523
Periklis Kalaitzis - looks like a salsa dancer.
https://worldgames2013.sportresult.com/NH/en/60/Participant/ParticipantInfo/818d5999-fcbe-44f2-adcb-4fccf4e3c7af
Periklis Kalaitzis - LinkedIn profile is fake, content copied from Saif Moiz Siddiqui
https://www.linkedin.com/in/saifmoizsiddiqui/
Some plagiarism, probably a lot more..
https://www.scribd.com/document/40133701/2
SALES:
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