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Quote from: bigtimespaghetti on April 08, 2015, 02:33:33 AM

Quote from: marcotheminer on April 07, 2015, 02:00:29 PM

I'm bumping this again.

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Did carra23 contact you to join a campaign?

Quote from: bigtimespaghetti (green trusted user)
Hi marco, yes carra23 got in touch to join.

What I want to know is: may a campaign manager 'recruit' participants? If allowed, I'm sure many would (I would with a few users).

EDIT: I'll make a meta thread.

Just to clarify, I was specifically banned recently for 'insubstantial posts' and having a sig campaign was the reason for the ban (I assume). I posted on this on my silver bar thread here, due to this fact I didn't consider the message unsolicited I just thought it relevant to recent events on my account. Generally I do not report any messages I receive as unsolicited unless it is an outright scam.

Any communication like this contains some risk I suppose (of being reported), if a long standing member wishes to take that risk then I'm not sure it's a problem.

Frankly I don't like being in the middle of something like this, but I wanted to post my take on it.

Alright thanks for the input

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Quote from: marcotheminer on April 07, 2015, 02:00:29 PM

I'm bumping this again.

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Did carra23 contact you to join a campaign?

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Hi marco, yes carra23 got in touch to join.

What I want to know is: may a campaign manager 'recruit' participants? If allowed, I'm sure many would (I would with a few users).

EDIT: I'll make a meta thread.

Just to clarify, I was specifically banned recently for 'insubstantial posts' and having a sig campaign was the reason for the ban (I assume). I posted on this on my silver bar thread here, due to this fact I didn't consider the message unsolicited I just thought it relevant to recent events on my account. Generally I do not report any messages I receive as unsolicited unless it is an outright scam.

Any communication like this contains some risk I suppose (of being reported), if a long standing member wishes to take that risk then I'm not sure it's a problem.

Frankly I don't like being in the middle of something like this, but I wanted to post my take on it.

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I'm bumping this again.

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Did carra23 contact you to join a campaign?

Quote from: bigtimespaghetti (green trusted user)
Hi marco, yes carra23 got in touch to join.

What I want to know is: may a campaign manager 'recruit' participants? If allowed, I'm sure many would (I would with a few users).

EDIT: I'll make a meta thread.

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Hugh RED FLAG! Someone needs to finish this crap off once and for all.

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wonker another cloud ponzi is down.. investors got burned again

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From what I can tell Carra23 has paid out participants so the issue seems to now be resolved

/thread (aka it is okay to lock the thread op)

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Has the site owner gotten back with any updates yet ?

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Quote from: Cryptology on January 14, 2015, 11:04:10 AM

Cryptomine.io site has been unavailable all day. Somebody has been able to reach it?

site is down from January 12
you can read last news about this cloud scam mining in official tread
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10130267

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Cryptomine.io site has been unavailable all day. Somebody has been able to reach it?

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Quote from: marcotheminer on January 11, 2015, 09:26:08 AM

Quote from: lolled on January 11, 2015, 09:15:56 AM

People enrolled in the Signature campaign might want to request a payout now as well. I don't see people getting paid if the site is down. Carra would probably just keep the funds , or end it here.

I would assume that they would pay out and end the program since no more funds from users are available to pay out everyone for another month, we'll see.

The decision is pretty obvious. I am just waiting for Carra to take one https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10117300

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Quote from: lolled on January 11, 2015, 09:15:56 AM

People enrolled in the Signature campaign might want to request a payout now as well. I don't see people getting paid if the site is down. Carra would probably just keep the funds , or end it here.

I would assume that they would pay out and end the program since no more funds from users are available to pay out everyone for another month, we'll see.

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People enrolled in the Signature campaign might want to request a payout now as well. I don't see people getting paid if the site is down. Carra would probably just keep the funds , or end it here.

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Quote from: caga on January 10, 2015, 09:12:23 PM

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on January 10, 2015, 04:33:54 PM

Quote from: hilariousandco on January 05, 2015, 02:25:46 AM

Quote from: Blazed on January 04, 2015, 08:28:48 PM

I am not sure the issue is here..

-Grabbing people with good reps is a smart move

Smart, sure, but it also leads people to be rightfully suspicious. I think he's likely trying to buy/acquire some positive feedback so I'm guessing that's why they were headhunted and I think people often look at this type of behaviour with concern. It's definitely worth making people aware of and keeping an eye on that's for sure.

This is possible. As there is some problem not having enough trade history, he may have trying to increase his trust. Let's wait for the payment day and check whether he pays or not.

And, both persons regarding Cryptomine is offline for some days now. Anybody got there payment(mining)?

~~MZ~~

No, Cryptomine.io doesn't pay to customers from Jan 7th.
That's why this tread becomes more actual

Its the 3rd day today . has there been no update at all?

Not yet. No news on site, no answers from support.
User Cryptomine not logged on forum from Jan 3.
But Carra23 appeared in their main tread.

Quote from: Carra23 on January 10, 2015, 05:01:45 PM

I saw earlier today here that there were some problems, and I mailed asking him to respond here. I have yet to receive a reply.
For now I will assume its due to the weekend and wait till Monday to see whats the status.

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Quote from: monetizator4 on January 10, 2015, 04:49:12 PM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on January 10, 2015, 04:33:54 PM

Quote from: hilariousandco on January 05, 2015, 02:25:46 AM

Quote from: Blazed on January 04, 2015, 08:28:48 PM

I am not sure the issue is here..

-Grabbing people with good reps is a smart move

Smart, sure, but it also leads people to be rightfully suspicious. I think he's likely trying to buy/acquire some positive feedback so I'm guessing that's why they were headhunted and I think people often look at this type of behaviour with concern. It's definitely worth making people aware of and keeping an eye on that's for sure.

This is possible. As there is some problem not having enough trade history, he may have trying to increase his trust. Let's wait for the payment day and check whether he pays or not.

And, both persons regarding Cryptomine is offline for some days now. Anybody got there payment(mining)?

~~MZ~~

No, Cryptomine.io doesn't pay to customers from Jan 7th.
That's why this tread becomes more actual

Its the 3rd day today . has there been no update at all?

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on January 10, 2015, 04:33:54 PM

Quote from: hilariousandco on January 05, 2015, 02:25:46 AM

Quote from: Blazed on January 04, 2015, 08:28:48 PM

I am not sure the issue is here..

-Grabbing people with good reps is a smart move

Smart, sure, but it also leads people to be rightfully suspicious. I think he's likely trying to buy/acquire some positive feedback so I'm guessing that's why they were headhunted and I think people often look at this type of behaviour with concern. It's definitely worth making people aware of and keeping an eye on that's for sure.

This is possible. As there is some problem not having enough trade history, he may have trying to increase his trust. Let's wait for the payment day and check whether he pays or not.

And, both persons regarding Cryptomine is offline for some days now. Anybody got there payment(mining)?

~~MZ~~

No, Cryptomine.io doesn't pay to customers from Jan 7th.
That's why this tread becomes more actual

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Quote from: hilariousandco on January 05, 2015, 02:25:46 AM

Quote from: Blazed on January 04, 2015, 08:28:48 PM

I am not sure the issue is here..

-Grabbing people with good reps is a smart move

Smart, sure, but it also leads people to be rightfully suspicious. I think he's likely trying to buy/acquire some positive feedback so I'm guessing that's why they were headhunted and I think people often look at this type of behaviour with concern. It's definitely worth making people aware of and keeping an eye on that's for sure.

This is possible. As there is some problem not having enough trade history, he may have trying to increase his trust. Let's wait for the payment day and check whether he pays or not.

And, both persons regarding Cryptomine is offline for some days now. Anybody got there payment(mining)?

~~MZ~~

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Bump.

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Quote from: lolled on January 06, 2015, 09:11:46 PM

Well if it does end as a scam, then I am sure the enrolled members won't complain as they already have enough warning.
Another aspect of this that strikes to me as fishy, is Cryptomine itself being ok with all decisions carra makes on his own.
Just because of the sig campaign, cryptomine lost on a lot of customers and if they were legit, they would immediately use a trusted escrow.

it isnt about the enrolling member, more importantly about the community

community tend to think high rank member and green trust dont advertise a scam this will lead more customer to cryptomine, which is a good advertisement, but how if cryptomine turn out to be a scam?that will damage the community

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Well if it does end as a scam, then I am sure the enrolled members won't complain as they already have enough warning.
Another aspect of this that strikes to me as fishy, is Cryptomine itself being ok with all decisions carra makes on his own.
Just because of the sig campaign, cryptomine lost on a lot of customers and if they were legit, they would immediately use a trusted escrow.

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They have built a sense of trust already but for me its likely to end up as a scam.

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Quote from: Tomatocage on January 05, 2015, 02:59:56 AM

Flagged for precaution. Hopefully I'm wrong.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cryptominegabriel-388641

Thanks for that Tomatocage! Better safe than sorry.

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Quote from: Blazed on January 04, 2015, 08:28:48 PM

I am not sure the issue is here..

-Grabbing people with good reps is a smart move

It certainly is, but if a scam does happen, then this would do far more damage , as people tend to think, that trusted members would not be advertising a scam.
An example of this is the recent case of dicebitco.in. Just Dice owner dooglus, initially advertised their site in his signature, and the site was able to get 7000 BTC investment, in about 2 months.
That is something, none of the other sites were able to get.
In the end, it was found rolls were rigged and it was scamming the gamblers. Then in also ran away with some investor funds.
Having some reputed members use their signature, makes it look like they are vouching for it(even though they clearly say , they are not, but people still consider it so).

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Flagged for precaution. Hopefully I'm wrong.

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Quote from: Blazed on January 04, 2015, 08:28:48 PM

I am not sure the issue is here..

-Grabbing people with good reps is a smart move

Smart, sure, but it also leads people to be rightfully suspicious. I think he's likely trying to buy/acquire some positive feedback so I'm guessing that's why they were headhunted and I think people often look at this type of behaviour with concern. It's definitely worth making people aware of and keeping an eye on that's for sure.

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Quote from: Blazed on January 04, 2015, 09:58:53 PM

Well I guess we will see what happens once it is payment time. I understand some of the complaints I guess...sad state this forum is in these days Undecided

The scammers have really made us not trust anyone at all anymore.

I guess it probably won't affect a lot of the trusted members either way marginally since a lot of them have a lot of bitcoin from it's early days. They also tend to post a lot regardless of if they are getting paid to do so.

There are a lot of scams on here, more then there should be. There does need to be a better way to do a better job of preventing scams from succeeding.

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Well I guess we will see what happens once it is payment time. I understand some of the complaints I guess...sad state this forum is in these days Undecided

The scammers have really made us not trust anyone at all anymore.

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Quote from: Blazed on January 04, 2015, 08:28:48 PM

I am not sure the issue is here..

-Grabbing people with good reps is a smart move

Correct. He should probably be more transparent about it though.

Quote from: Blazed on January 04, 2015, 08:28:48 PM

-They paid last month with no issues

Technically true, however his reputation is worth significantly less then the amount he will owe signature participants. He has no trading history on the forum which leads me to believe Carra23 is a purchased account that is being controlled by the operators of Cryptomine. There is nothing wrong with this however I believe the account was purchased with the intention of giving a false sense of credibility of the signature campaign.

Quote from: Blazed on January 04, 2015, 08:28:48 PM

-Sniping is just how things often happen - no need to be mad about it.

Also correct.

Quote from: Blazed on January 04, 2015, 08:28:48 PM

In the future you should not publicly post things that were sent via PM (Private Message) - it is rude.

He should have gotten permission prior to publicly quoting what people say in a PM.

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I am not sure the issue is here..

-Grabbing people with good reps is a smart move
-They paid last month with no issues
-Sniping is just how things often happen - no need to be mad about it.

In the future you should not publicly post things that were sent via PM (Private Message) - it is rude.

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By the way, there is already a thread here.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cryptomine-signature-campaign-could-be-a-scam-876473

Had locked it, but unlocked now. But I think, the 2 threads are somewhat different.
The solution is VERY SIMPLE . Starting by having one of the reputed escrows handle the funds.

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Thanks for this thread @marcotheminer , I think now Carra23 should reply here to resolve the "problem / trouble". He didn't appear transparent in his operation management of the signature campaign.

He initially didn't want to post the address , what was the purpose to not post it?

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It is definitly troublesome, but I'm not sure what can be done against it. However, it's a good thing that you inform people about it and I hope that people keep this in mind if they join the signature campaign or use their website.

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Quote from: Quickseller on January 04, 2015, 12:51:10 PM

The OP was (mostly) written by yours truly, although the leg work/research was done by marco.

I do think that making a what appears to be a public signature campaign invitation only is misleading. Also the overall way Carra23 has handled the signature campaign smells of a scam to me

Thanks to Quickseller for some of the OP!

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The OP was (mostly) written by yours truly, although the leg work/research was done by marco.

I do think that making a what appears to be a public signature campaign invitation only is misleading. Also the overall way Carra23 has handled the signature campaign smells of a scam to me

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Quote from: ligeros on January 04, 2015, 10:04:22 AM

It's the second tread about cryptomine.io in this subforum.
The first one is locked after the first payout https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cryptomine-signature-campaign-could-be-a-scam-876473

Valid points in that thread too.

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It's the second tread about cryptomine.io in this subforum.
The first one is locked after the first payout https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cryptomine-signature-campaign-could-be-a-scam-876473

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Other scam accusation: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cryptomine-signature-campaign-could-be-a-scam-876473

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The campaign manager of cryptomine.io, Carra23, is specifically inviting and paying higher rates for some (not all) very trusted members (with significant green, often bolded, trust) into the cryptomine.io signature campaign.

Quotes confirming he PMs high trusted users to join the campaign (all below users have publicly visible green trust):

Quote from: ?? on ??

Enrolling as per invitation via PM..

Quote from: MoreBloodWine on January 04, 2015, 08:08:49 AM

I was PM'd about it

Quote from: Wardrick on January 03, 2015, 07:29:46 PM

Yeah she did.

Quote from: goose20 on January 03, 2015, 11:08:13 PM

Yes they did.

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Quote from: marcotheminer
Did carra23 contact you to join a campaign?

Quote from: bigtimespaghetti (green trusted user)
Hi marco, yes carra23 got in touch to join.

The above issue(s) aren't too big of a deal, although it does make him sound a bit shady but as long as members don't find the PMs to be spammy, it can slide.

Full disclosure, I run am running a signature campaign on behalf of BIT-X.com.

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