Topic: Cartaxi Bounty Scam!! They Deceive their participants (Read 1280 times)

I strongly agree your response, menager can change the rules and even then still in reasonable rules, to change the address mew is very suspicious (pishing)

I see your not reading the whole content. It's not the private key thing but the address itself. The participant's address was intentionally changed upon payout and the reason was the sheet was hacked. How? Come on, you will believe on this claim by the manager that the sheet was hacked and they doesn't have an idea why it happened? Cartaxi didn't even got mad to their managers. Dafar is just silent the moment the complaints was being raised although he/she is online. Also in their telegram group, people who will asked about bounty problem got kicked. Why?

You think people will just move on and ignored that shit activity? How come it was easy to you to say "just move on blah blah blah". You won't really understand the situation here because you are not involved so better stop posting things like that and let those participants involved in the bounties shout their complaints.

Not only the bounty rules were changed when the ICO ended, but also the ETH addresses.  We were warning about the changed wallet addresses and many asked the managers Spaceman Spiff and Dafar to restore them but Cartaxi rushed to distribute the tokens out to the thieves, just in the middle of all complains. Then, not a word on this. Not an offer to compensate the robbed people (mostly translators) who worked hard to promote their business and certainly had no fault at all.

No mistakes

.Dafar is a scammer .

you can change the rules but not the ETH address

Campaigns do have the right to change the rules any time but it seems Cartaxi managers has made a lot of mistakes while distributing the tokens too. The addresses were changed on the last day, some users did not get paid for moderation of their threads and the amount of tokens was too less compared to what was promised.

If one campaign like car taxi can do this after reaching their hard cap, it will be followed by other campaigns too which would be unfair for participants as well. There have been campaigns who have paid out honestly and are still running well in the market. The promotion done by the participants helps the campaign too which should be considered. But anyways, it doesn't seem they want to solve this issue.

Do you count Twitter, facebook, translations, blog and other campaigns as bitcointalk shitposting?
If I request loan from loan shark and I don't pay him back then I am not scammer because I am not legally bound to pay him back, is that what you are saying?
You are talking about shitposters and yet you are unable to read topic. How can someone leave campaign if campaign has ended BEFORE rules have been changed?
They said that they will pay $1.6M worth tokens to bounty participants and AFTER campaign has ended they changed rules.
Nobody was phished here, several eth addresses were changed in google spread sheet. It has nothing to do with MEW or private keys. 

So what do we have here - changing bounty rules after manager said bounty is over and changing ETH addresses before token distribution, sure, it doesn't sound like fraud because shitposters are in bounties   

Since they have these sections of the forum under their patrol in general, they will respond soon if they find your accusation genuine and worth looking into.

That is the headache of the campaign participants. The manager can change the payments anytime they want. They are managing the campaign and they can do whatever they want. Fact is that if you participate, you are bound to the terms they set in and to all modifications that they do later on. However they are not responsible for you getting lower payment later on for modified terms. You cannot blame them for changing payouts. You have to accept that.

You did not read that line - I was referring to ICOs in general. and that added part was just a side note to make people aware of the aftermath of an ICO and its bounty campaign.

Ethereum address private keys OFTEN get hacked and this is not a new phenomena. People get phished by the myetherwallet phishing links at times and its sucks to be the victim I can understand.

I am not in support of the fact that Cartaxi Bounty was not paid to the participants. However I would reiterate what I said in my last post that doing a signature or bounty campaign does not mean you are going to be paid - accept this and move on.

That's why they must be informed. Of course they have activities in real life but as soon as they informed, they will look into this if they have time.


Buttheart people? We cant blame anyone?? What a comment from an experienced user here in this forum. Are you retarded? The details of payout have been changed the moment the campaign was finised. So it's just fine to you? You will never complained? Come on dont just increase your post count here shitposter.


Another bullshit comment. The CARTAXI project is success!

And to add for your idiotic response, THE ETH ADDRESS ON TRANSLATION SHEET WAS BEING CHANGED TO A HACKER ADDRESS UPON DISTRIBUTION OF PAYMENT!! DO YOU THINK THAT IS NOT INTENTIONAL??? THE ONLY ONE WHO HAVE ACCESSED THERE IS THE BOUNTY MANAGER HOW COME IT WAS HACKED??
IN THAT CASE ITS STILL OK TO YOU AND WILL NEVER COMPLAINT? IDIOT!

IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED HERE BETTER INCREASE YOUR POST ON OTHER TOPICS!

in fact what changes make this coin look scam, considering we all know to participate in it change the rules of the game reasonable

Obviously the DT members have a life and they are not hunting down ICO bounty campaigns which do not pay their participants.

DT members are not internet police. You cannot expect them to deliver "justice" to every scam ICO out there. However they have been working hard in this and they will come to your accusation soon.

On another note I would like to add this to all butthurt people here - Signature campaigns and bounty campaigns are rampant and people are always ready to grab a bite of free cash by shitposting in this forum. Doing so is a privilege and if you are not paid for that they you cannot blame anyone because you are not legally bound to be paid by them. If you feel that the ICO may not be able to raise the funds and pay bounty campaigners then leave the campaign.

If you are so obsessed with "justice" then go outside and get a real job which pays you - obviously you dont even have the qualifications to do so and that is why you are still here.

I wonder where is the DT members now? They still didn't put a red paint on the scam dev on this project.

A justice must be serve to this since if they will be tolerated like this they might gonna create an another scam bounty project in future, RED tag must be serve right now and I'm calling the attention of the active DT.

A good company would have made a statement on these incidents. cartaxi is incapable of doing so.
they are only amateurs. professionals react much better

I just learned that their former bounty manager, Spaceman_Spiff still controls the telegram group and claimed that the translation sheet was being hacked. Yes, majority of translators are not being paid because of the incident.

Ok let's say the distribution are fair but that hacked sheet is like intentionally did. I can't imagined how it was hacked and it was happened only when the token is about to distribute. Really a fishy one. How come Cartaxi can called their project SUCCESS but in return no such thing as they are really concern for what happen at their bounty program.

Although no evidence, we can't blame people to think that Spaceman and Dafar have a deal or even a same person that take advantage on this shit activity while on the other hand Cartaxi really knows this shit that's why they ignoring all the complaints.

No, Cartaxi doesn't scam their users. They even paid huge amounts in BTC to their participants without any problems. But they go through posts, expecting high quality contents. If not all needed posts meet their rules, they reduce payment amount.

1. Some people, like me, don't shitpost, but post great posts. You're really generalizing the whole Bitcointalk community right now, as there are a lot of others who also don't shitpost and use Signature Campaigns as a part-time job.

2. Really? You just made the most idiotic statement I've ever heard of a campaign manager. "If you don't like it, how hard it is to just leave the campaign?"... Seriously? Do you realize that some people have worked (part-time) for multiple weeks for the campaign and the campaign just changes it **afterwards**? If they changed it **before** people started working for the campaign, I would agree with you, but if my interpretation of what the OP said equals your's, you're really wrong here.

3. Most likely, it won't have further consequences in the future, but I agree with Scam Exposey that they haven't behaved very well recently.

I haven't investigated the situation further, but I have used everything the OP said in the original post and my own intelligence & experience.

Regards,
Trump

Yes, I hear the news many people are complaining about the project and changing the rules after completion of the crowdsale. Even managers are hiding this and supporting the Cartaxi management paying less bounty to the participants.

Cartaxi dev aswell the manager need to get red tag to warning them that they are cheating their participants.

DT members should react on this since they are making another project wich is the playkey i believe and they would cheat again for the second time if the first time cheating will not be stop.

is cartaxi really scam? but judgment of hardcap allocation runs successfully. considering that there are also many followers of the program. how do you say if cartaxi SCAM !!? 

It was stated in their smart contract that they will give 2.5% of the tokens sold. Read the smart contract next time, or learn how to read them to avoid getting your blood presure high.
Of course, they took advantage that the vast majority dont know how to read a smart contract, and use that in their advantage to market their product better.
In the future, please try and use your brain...nobody will give millions of dollars just to share and retweet some posts.

SPOILER:

ATLANT ICO just finished... they will not give 38000 ETH as bounty ...like they stated in their bounty thread.

PLAYKEY...same shit

and all other ico's...

We are in 2018 and you still dont get one basic thing on this planet. Every company is trying to make themself rich...not you!

Yes. It is cheating not revealing correct information in the beginning of the work. Please tell me how many of you work on a job which gives you less than 8% of what they said earlier?
And for those who are shouting madly about twitter and facebook campaign, please understand the things clearly. If posting on facebook and twitter is a small thing, why projects wants to develop twitter and facebook campaigns. ICO's are evolving in bulk, so it is social media which attracts the investors. And see, you say small work but small things make big things, please remember. Also individuals from twitter and facebook campaign are not getting thousands of dollars nor hundreds, they are getting just around 100$ for 3 months that too if they work on time.
If you still think fb and twitter are small things and make no difference in investing what about Articles and translations.How much efforts they put. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND BEFORE COMMENTING SHIT JUST TO INCREASE POST COUNT, EVERY WORK SHOULD BE RESPECTED.EVERY WORK HAS TO BE HONOURED.

But in CARTAXI case they just cheated us by showing big numbers.We didnt ask them to show big numbers. We would not join their campaigns if they show actual numbers and reveal correct information.This is the trick they played they know that people wont join if they tell actual information so they showed BIG numbers and attracted people.

Also they are banning people on telegram for asking about bounty. Please tell me if they are so much allergic to bounty why did they start bounty. We didnt ask them to. Its their need.Also they are warning people that they will not pay those shit amounts if they talk about bounty.

I will not call a cartaxi in Moscow. first it should cost 50 rubles and when it is ready 100 rubles. 
then better hire a good company that does not cheat people

I'm against shitposters at least as much as Joel_Jantsen is, but in this case I disagree with him.  I see nobody here speaks English, so you all probably did a bunch of spamming for cartaxi--but I don't like when these scam ICOs pull this shit, changing their payouts after the "work" is done.  That's dishonest and unfair. 

But I won't lose a nanosecond of sleep that you lazy spammers got scammed.   Not that you deserve it,  but I can't stand any of you, so that takes the sting away.  It's kind of like hydrocortisone 0.5% for the soul.  Hopefully the knuckleheads in charge of the cartaxi scam will get a nice red lipstick graffiti job written on their trust page. 

Next time you guys should look for a better job, escrowed funds, etc.  Stuff your kind never seems to consider before putting in the hours of spamming that you all do.

Oh great thinking Mr. You mean to say a small work with huge benefit worth nothing???If you have point then go and ask them why they posted a ANN bounty thread with such a big amount.There are more than 500 people joined this campaign for 10weeks and worked according to their rules and they changed the main thing for which we people are here after campaign ended.Project reached its hardcap successfully.Why they kept all in dark.Is this fair according to you then I have no doubt but maybe they send you to say something good about them.
This is ridiculous you are just laughing on your fellow members who spent many hours to work for this project and they just trying to cheat us.

I wonder how that Joel_Jantsen guy thinking and he acts like important person in this furom,   And if you are in the place of the deceived workers here I'm so sure that you will be one of the Shouting to get the exact pay.

Remember that 10 weeks is not a short day of working and people deserves to get payed for there efforts!

And I know that manager and owner can change the payment rule but this one will be applicable if the camp is on starting or in the middle state, But changing the rules when the campaign ends? It's different story men.


You should remember @Joel_Jantsen that you are once angry when SFR denied your enrollment to his camp before and you posted it on meta to create some attention which is so ridiculous and desperate act to get in and earn some money for the said camp.

Since when advertising is not a work?
Irrelevant.
Not after campaign ends.
Imagine that you work for someone for a month, you agree to receive 5000$ as payment and after you do your job employer says that he will give you 100$ because he has changed his mind.
Does it sound OK to you?
They changed rules after campaign ended, after participants removed signatures, not before, so you can't really say "if you don't like it just leave it".

In your opinion, where is the line?
If they don't pay at all then it is scam but if they pay 5 times less than promised then it is not scam?

BTW subject of this topic is not are bounty campaigns work or not. but as you mentioned that what you don't see as a work helped them to raise 8,700,000$  

In my opinion they should pay what has been promised before campaign ended.

They probably saw how much tokens they have to give to participants(tokens worth 1,661,100$), did some calculations and decide to give them much less money than it was promised which is wrong.

Don't be so stupid since the campaign is not consist only with twitter camp and fb camp and as you see it has an technical jobs there, And don't be so rubbish and do you think your good enough here? I don't think you will post in this furom if there's no payment coming to you so just shut the fuck up and just consider the effort of the people who's working on that campaign..

And don't make yourself as Mr.Goody man since your nobody here, Your just a piece of shit posting for money same as the other did in this furom.

Working ? lol Sharing stuff on social media and shitposting on bitcointalk doesn't count as 'work'.I don't understand why you guys feel bounties and other campaigns are a privilege.A campaign is viable to change their rules whenever they feel like.Do they guys owe you anything ? I think not.



Who says that ? The rules can change however the campaign owners want them to be.If you don't like it,how hard it is to just leave the campaign?

No it doesn't.

It's so pity to see that Cartaxi deceive there bounty campaign participants by paying such low amount why they allocate huge for there camp, And guess what they are now changing their rules while they already finish there ICO, Feel sorry for the guys who's working for 10 weeks on that camp.

Here's the bounty thread of their scampaign: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.23865475

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cartaxi-1090360

The rules should not be changes since the Campaign is done, and they deceived there participants after they received some millions of dollars.

So we can point out that for this doing Cartaxi is not professional and they might scam us on future. there business model seems questionable right now.