Topic: Casascius Bearer Bars - Protective Airtite Case ? (Read 2398 times)

Was not actually "foam"... was a medium-soft plastic insert that was inside a rectangular capsule.
I will see if I can find one or a pic of one....

EDIT: To confirm that they came in those capsules:
http://digitalmoneytimes.com/bitcoin-st-petersburg-bowl-physical-coin-commmemorates-major-sporting-event/

"Once you remove the plastic bubble wrapping, you are presented with a see through plastic case, inside of which is the coin itself. I would recommend not opening the plastic case itself in order to protect the coin from any damage. For those of you unaware, (collectible) coins are prone to damage if they are taken out of their protective casing. As this coin will not be loaded with Bitcoin (simply because it isn’t intended to be loaded), there is no real reason to take it out of the casing in the first place."

Was it the foam that was the issue for sure?  You can always reach out to air-tites.com to see if they have anything available.  They are my favorite coins/bar/note case provider overall.  

Remember what happened with the foam inserts on the Casascius St. Pete coins?

wow necro bump

Now start making them and sell them !!

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F222238015175

1 Air-Tite 10 oz Silver Bar Direct Fit Bar Holder Capsule

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F264204967084

Black Closed Cell 2A Volara Foam Landau Padding 1/4" Samples Only 4" x 4"

Cut foam to fit. I did a shit job with scissors and I'm fine with it:

https://ibin.co/59DJi9mCow0J.jpg

Did anything come of this Blazed ?

My buddy owns a large machine shop with tons of high-end CNC machines. I just take the bars to the guys in the shop and tell them what I want done. They also have a crazy fiber laser that can engrave into metal etc..

Do you have the machine or would you be getting someone/a company to do this for you?
I'd be interested in a few for F*D and Kialaras.

Wow..

I will get right on it then. I also can have things lasered into them if we all want to get fancy? I will keep you guys posted on this. I have all the bars mentioned for specs also!

I would be in for 3x Casascius bars... and if they ever get made, 4x F*D 5" Bars, and 3x Kialara.

I'd be interested in 4 or 5.

I would take 6, maybe 7

I will make some prototypes of the Casascius bar first. I know that I can have some thicker Lexan CNC'd out to fit.

I have a Lindner Nimbus 150

example: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Object-frame-NIMBUS-150-Dimensions/dp/B00G7Q6UU0

I put a F*D Bitcoin bar in it but unfortunately the bar is too heavy so when the frames stands up vertical the bar slowly "sinks" to the bottom.  

Kialara fits great in the Nimbus 100 and stay in the middle of the frame because they a light  

I will keep looking for cases for the Casascius Bearer Bars, if I find something I will let you all know.

Depending on price and quality, I would take 5.
If you do a run for the Kialara bars, and the above works out, then I would take a bunch more.

It would be 'nice' if they could still fit the dimensions of a standard coin slab.

I could probably have some made with lexan. I tried to find some for my bars with no luck since it is a unique size. Maybe I will have a run of 10 cases made.

Did anyone end up finding anything for these other than Michails suggestion (which I think I may end up doing myself)

100 X 100 were the internal dimensions btw

If anyone ends up putting an order together, please shoot me a message. I'd be interested in buying a few.

I would be interested to hear, thanks for doing this.

http://www.prophila.de/Produktbeschreibung/-/li4836S/145/0/1/1342091408201426041811791125171182.html I can get the type of cases that were talked about earlier for 8.5 euros. Just need to confirm if the 100x100mm is internal or external dimensions.

I will hold fire until I know what you find.

Just got a few responses. 
So far nobody has the right type of cases to fit the bar.
The sizes Mike chose are a bit unusual.
Anyway, I went down the non air tight route and have found a couple of things that may be a possibility.
They aren't cases that fit exactly but something like a foam insert can be made.
Making a case specific for the size will be quite costly even in china.
They tend to charge a lot for the mould.

Re 3D printing, I've had some experience with it. As a matter of fact I just got something printed for my personal collection
Anyway, to cut to the point I don't think that it's the best option.
You'd need to get the material right and it'll need some finishing as well.
I'm no expert in clear plastics but I know that it'll be very expensive per print.
I once tried mass producing a 3D printed iPhone case.
The total quite worked out more than an injection mould and the same number of pieces.
On the other hand, if it's just for a couple of pieces then it may be worthwhile.

I'll let you know when I get some more responses.

I asked this question on a silver forum ...

http://forums.silverstackers.com/message-705635.html#p705635


A reply came back (probably Australian $)

"From my limited experience...

Gold plated means that it won't tarnish so you would be looking for protection from scratches rather than from the air, so you probably don't need them to be airtight.

I looked into getting some clamshell packaging made, similar size.

Custom vacuum forming mould $3400-$3800 approx
Die cutting knife  $220- $380

Then you need to add the cost of the actual clam shell, for which they want a minimum order, around 1000 from what I can remember.

They expect you to add the cost of the clamshell to whatever product you are selling so you can pass the cost onto the buyer.

You kind of figure that you could use some yourself and sell the rest, but here is the kicker, the company would retain the vacuuforming molds and reserved the right to sell your product along with their own.  So any thoughts of selling the remaining items as a business would have to take into account that there is a plastics manufacturing company who can sell them cheaper than you can and they haven't had to pay any of the set-up fees.

I gave the whole thing up as a bad idea but I might revisit it now that 3D printing and 'makers' are taking over from the larger companies.

I also got in touch with Ultra-Pro with the idea but they never got back to me, they might be able to help you though, or Lighthouse, they both have archival quality storage solutions for things you didn't even know needed storing."

Seems like price could be too prohibitive here .... unless AT101ET can pull a blinder

But the 3D printing angle caught my attention. But again this is something I dont know an awful lot about

They seem to make 1 ounce Silver bar airtight cases for smaller sizes.  Not sure if bigger cases exist

http://www.risingstarmint.com/item/acrylic-airtight-bar-capsules/acrylic-airtight-capsules-for-/lid=15174974

And what what I should have said was thanks AT101ET 

Mikes site says bar is 80mm x 40mm x 6mm. I have just measured one, and that seems accurate

It would be worth getting a test case done and to hand (if thats possible ...) for a measure up before any bulk. I'm also not entirely sure what the demand is. I would take a punt with 50, I would need to be clear on demand to have a run of any more.

I will keep my eye out for a redeemed none denom bar, at a reasonable price. I could always get that, and fire over to China for them to use as a template, if that would make it easier. Anyone got one to sell (reasonable pricing please)

I have a reliable contact in China who could sort this out. I'd need to know exact measurements though. If someone can give me the dimensions of the case they need, I can try and sort it out pretty soon

If I had the first clue about who can do custom size acrylic cases for bullion ... that wouldnt be a problem. At the moment I cant seem to find anything. I am sure there will be a very reasonable option for 50 - 100 units comingfrom China ... just knowing how to engage them

Anyone got any ideas please ?

@monkeynuts Count me in on getting a few of those!

Nice. Thats the best I have seen so far. Would love to see a pic of a bar in one, and then know the size that was bought.

Otoh - if you find anything better would love to hear

Anyone know if its possible to get a custom size airtite made ? Surely there are enough of us with bars to make it economical ? I would be down for 10 straight away. I would go in with someone if there are upfront costs to make it work, equally would gladly get bulk, and resell on here for a small margin

If I can get the right case, I will post some pics, as I have a few very special bars that I am sure folks would like to see

well I was thinking about something that would function as an airtight, since they can be used as a nice display (with foam and stands) and it's protective.

Either way, that stand is really really nice!

Watching, as I'll be looking out for a best fit container solution for these, will post if and what I find.

Btw, I'll buy any perfect condition bars for their loaded BTC value plus 1 BTC, inclusive of insured, tracked, signed for postage and escrow.

What do you mean by 'safe'?  It's not meant to protect the coin/bar.  It is more meant as a display.

Judgement call on being worth buying.  You might have spent $600 on the bar plus whatever was added to the bar, so I think spending $20 on the case is well worth it. 

It is sandwitched between two layers of a type of film (not sticky).  So, you can open and close the case as often as you want (reposition, etc).
If gives the appearance that the object is floating.  When you take a picture or angled right, you can see the film.

Those things look awesome!  Thanks for sharing!

Can I see a pic of the bar? I wanna know if it's safe so it's worth buying

Well, not the type of case people are searching for; however, I currently have my bars in these until something better comes along....

Nimbus Frame
http://www.lindner-usa.com/pg5_englisch/sonstige-sammelgebiete/nimbus-frames.html

Many diff sizes avail.  Not my site.
I will post pics of a bar or two or coins in them if requested.

I think I asked this same question a few months back, nobody could point me to any air-tites that fit. I ended up keeping them in plastic sleves/pouches

Interested too! Or some grading services that accepts these bars!

Bump (as I would like to find something as well).

Does anyone know if there are any airtite cases that fit the casascius bearer bars ?

I have had a quick look, and I dont think they line up with standard size bullion bars, and their airtites.

So I would be very interested to see if anyone else has had any more luck

Thanks !

MN