Topic: Casino repeated live payout results (Read 316 times)

On thanks and nice to know that you have learn how the live payout features work on the casino and good to see how you handled it by not sharing a link in the beginning of the thread and now both you and others have learned from this thread and that is a great thing to thins point.

I would like to suggest that you lock the thread, you have already gotten what you wanted for creating the thread

So the image presented by @OP is a trimmed version where some parts were cut out by the person who have some ill intention towards the casino to make some confusion.  It is a good thing that @Bitinity shows the original layout of the bet history and fix the confusion presented by @OP.  It was the bet size not the payout, no wonder it looks like a repeated same result as presented by @OP.  This is one of the instances where verifying the presented data is a good thing to avoid being mislead.

What is the name of this casino?

If this is a new casino then the owners are manipulating payouts because they have less gamblers on the platform, it's a bad trick that could make people run away from the casino.

I have seen new online casinos showing off fake payouts and adjusting the time daily, I knew one that made some mistakes and they quickly corrected the mistake, so I am not surprised.

My question for you is are you sure this screenshot is from the casinos payouts? Because it's not new to see a straight up lists of continues free money from casinos if you are playing slots games, some welcome bonuses like free spins do have same results after free rolls, and with that $0.25 makes it look even more like free spin wins.

manipulation is real on new casinos online but this case do look like someone's game play result on casino, this doesn't look like casinos payout to me, I could be wrong but I doubt it.

I have never observed this, but if it happens, we don't need to worry, especially if we gamble at a trusted casino. A trusted casino will not do anything that will worry or make its customers suspicious. This will be related to the reputation they have built for a long time.

But you can see it in a newly launched casino because the casino wants to show its new customers that their casino is playing well. After all, not many people would pay attention to that. And this is what you have to worry about because if it is the same, there is a possibility that the casino wants to manipulate the data.

But we can't know for sure why the casino does this. We can only remain careful. If we feel suspicious about the casino, we may look for another casino to gamble.

That's what I guessed when I tried the game on the Betsoft platform because I didn't get one single time the same winning 2 times in a row, so if it was a scam it would be a bit too much obvious IMO, regular players would notice it immediately. I think you have been a little bit too "hasty" if I may say, actually  . But you don't explain why you only saw the first half of the screen, it's surprising. Your picture is still misleading shitposters who don't read the thread on that note, it's always better to open topics in self-moderated mode in this section.

Feedback is still the best way to measure a casino's reputation. If a casino has the courage to create an announcement thread here, I guess they are legitimate and they understand how big the market is here, which would help them grow their business. However, if a casino just spends on paid reviews, which obviously the website will create biased reviews, then they're likely planning to scam gamblers.

That is normal and it is not cause for concern at least in well established,big and reputable casinos as they have a cybersecurity team in place to check everything while everything is live so nothing wrong from that type of screen,it is just some random guy playing slots,if you would see mine playing Dice at Stake it would show a much bigger screen of same amount of wager that I bet on this game and leave it on auto play.

I am pretty confident there is no room for concern for such things in the big casinos of today,the big ones pay huge amounts in payouts without much questioning as long as the bets are valid whether the cause of concern is with those casinos that leave your withdraw pending to save time and to hopefully make you continue play and lose everything,these are the real cancer of the online gambling nowadays.

Maybe what is used is small site that does not have enough reputation support or high trust in customers because in large and popular casinos they will definitely be honest and fair in providing what customer is entitled to even if it is in fairly large amount.
This is not the first time case like this has happened and some people who complain about their cases never tell us the name of the site they use so that we can all be more careful and avoid problems like that in the future.
In fact casinos have made quite large profits so reducing what gamblers should have is not the right thing and in the long term can damage the trust and reputation of a gambling site.

It is a shame that nowadays competition in the casino business is very tight which should provide good service and comfort to attract gamblers to become loyal customers but they actually make gamblers feel at disadvantage and make them hesitate to return again another time.

I have also this same answer because in slot almost every players do the same bets for how many spins , speciallt those who are in AutoSpin that generates sometimes up  to 100 spins automated .
but if this is in other form of gamling that has different amount of bets mostly yet this happens?
then you have the rights to ask those here and maybe the community will show more interest .hopem you have got your answer now .

This is not new and we are all used to seeing such, personally people like myself who like playing Slots games do get such results sometimes, are you new to casino games? Because it's looking like you are new, haven't you registered once or twice to get some free spins before? That's not a lot of money and it does look like results from spinnings.

I don't see anything wrong with this result because I have claimed free spins on different online casinos before and their results look identical, I was able to earn $30 using free spins on a casino before, and another $15 from a brand new casino too.

Although live payout can be deceiving too, some online casinos will manipulate the results to catch the attention of passersby, truly all these shouldn't even mean anything to anyone because it doesn't matter, losses on casinos is the most guaranteed outcome so better worry about how you will safely engage with casinos instead of what others gambling results look like.

I see what you mean..... there are some bets, where it shows 2 or 4 bets in one second, which is not normal. I think this might just be a glitch in the system, where the bet is displayed more than once in the bet history. If this was something like Plinko ..you might have several balls dropping in a micro second from each other, but this is a slot and the bets normally take longer.

Just take a screen capture and ask the casino support to explain to you, why you are getting this output in your bet history. Also compare that with other players that are playing at the same casino. 

Which casino that was at would be quite interesting, yes. The result and its falsification would be almost too obvious for a manipulation, so there must be another reason why the live payouts look like this here. This would be in my opinion definitely worth a question at the support or in the forum of the respective casino ... and I would also be very curious about the answer.

Basically I agree with you: Especially live payouts are very easy to manipulate and make you believe that there is a high activity of players, especially on smaller casinos... which in turn makes the casino more attractive for new players - and of course larger deposits. Hardly anyone would make larger deposits on casinos where hardly anyone plays.

Is that your account that is in the screenshot? It's just one name, so it's probably yours. If not, then most likely the casino does not have a lot of gamblers playing on the site. Regarding the time, there's a seconds difference, so more than one outcome would result in a minute. As long as you are gambling on reputable casinos, you won't question that kind of live results. But if not, you might doubt it's not reliable.

It is fine, maybe you opened the page on mobile browser so yo did not notice that there is payout column and you were focused on the number under the amount column only and you thought that they are payout number and coincidently you opened it when there is 1 single player only who played slot game. This might be the reason why you thought that they are repetitive payout while in fact they are repetitive bet amount which is something normal when players play slot games as most players use flat betting strategy and play with auto betting system.


It is possible to see suspected manipulated bets in casinos, I've seen it several times and most of them are newly launched site with very bad UI. Usually they do it to make the site looks alive to attract new players.

I personally do believe that it's indeed possible for the payout live feed to be manipulated, but such manipulation is supposedly only possible, or likely possible with smaller or new casinos, this they will do for several reasons, and one of such reasons being that -
They don't have a lot of players yet, and to keep the payout livefeed busy, they have to recycle some previous already posted payouts.

Such things as the above is not possible or may likely not happen on casinos with lots of players where there are thousands of players winning every minute, even though it be a small amount.

Yeah not a biggie at all. I have seen the the list rolling all the time with repeated names and repeated slot winnings. Some of them have different pattern, they would only publish the winning of the game/slot that we are playing. For example let us say I am playing Book of Dead then I can see all the winnings and losses on that game itself. This also includes the usernames if the player has not masked their usernames from the settings. Otherwise it will show as Hidden user. While on the other hand some of them would just show random game results anyways. I am not sure what’s your concern here but users are playing all along the day so I don’t think it’s anything new or something that is ambiguous.

You omitted to specify which casino you were alluding to. Although I missed what you were saying, it's likely that may happen if the casino has unfavorable plans for the people using their gaming platform in the future.

However, I don't believe that a reputable casino can accomplish what you think, as what you described in the topic you did, if the casino is already well-known in this area and there are already sizable communities developed in the cryptocurrency business.

Seriously, for professional service platforms they have no reason to limit themselves to this, I've also seen some tools that have terrible language display but are still used.  And the issue here should be open to view that as long as the service operation is still smooth, there is no need to worry too much about any problems. But perhaps in some small cases it's just a display error, so just enjoy and don't be too suspicious about these things.

So sorry for the confusion, I guess I  misunderstood the live payment system, but I've got it now thanks to your explanation and others. I used to think that the payout results were repetitive because I sometimes saw the same values. I didn't include a link to the image because I didn't want it to seem like an accusation, just that I had doubts.

Based on what I know, these numbers can be adjusted to attract more players to the casino. It's hard to detect because they come from various players at the casino. However, this behavior is often seen in smaller casinos. Larger casinos are less likely to risk damaging their reputation by tampering with these results.

I always notice this in every new casino and you will probably find something strange and will ask questions about it, we all know that it can be manipulated that's why the real time display of live payments is always put on the front page of the casino so that it is correct It is true that there are many users who gamble in it to attract many beginners to play and gamble at that casino.

This is usually done by every casino, in fact I don't think it's only done by small casinos, maybe even big casinos, which means it's definitely used to attract players, so I wouldn't be surprised by repeated direct payments like the one above, sometimes often. saw it once on some site and I don't even care about it now. 

I believe you took it from betcoin, so lets see the full information of their live bets history below:



It is clear that the number on your screenshot (under the "Amount") refers to the bet amount made by the players, not the payout as what you think because the payout is located in the last column (next to multiplier). All in all there is nothing wrong with the one you try to bring here as shown on your image, it is just misunderstanding from your side.

Yes and no. They're simply accounts that use bots to play the game, and due to how fast it cycles through, the live display pretty much shows them winning multiple times in a row. In reality, there's probably a bunch of losses in between those wins instead of it being concurrent wins.

As for two, I'd say it should be based on real-time data in reputable casinos at least. I wouldn't pull out that their fake though, new casinos probably do that to attract players into thinking some people actually play there as you've said. There might be some casinos that show the TX or something similar though and in those cases it's pretty easy to check whether the game actually happened or not though.

There's nothing strange about it for me either. Repeated results happen. It's not surprising. The exact amount of payout is basically the result of an exact amount of bet. It's probably on auto mode and the amount of bet is constant. That the payouts sometimes happen at the exact time is because the time shown doesn't include the seconds, and spins or rolls happen every second or even split of a second. So in a minute, several spins could already be done.

I don't see anything strange in the screenshot you posted! What you see is not repeated results but a player (joed1) playing the same slot game (Mega Gems) and most likely he is playing it on auto-bet (min 0.25 USD) . This is why the bet amount didn't change, nothing strange really.
My guess is that you took this screenshot from some unpopular casino and this is why there aren't many bets during two or more minutes, am I right?

Since slots is made up of scripts in RNG, the account probably triggers one of the RNG scripts that have the same result.  There is also this one slot that I watched that triggers a script of an infinite loop of hits resulting in max win after 4 hours of looping.

I think this is normal, I also experience this kind of result in the slot, the only difference is that I got 0 wins instead of that $0.25(continuous red streak for 20 bets).

I don't play casino games that depend on luck for the person to win, but since you posted this concern, my advice is that you post the link that directs the part where you took this image so we can check, I don't understand why you just posted it a photo and no posting link and the name of the casino. you are not accusing the casino of anything, you just have this doubt, so I don't see any problem in posting the casino link and the name of the casino, another thing is that in the photo there is no part that shows that these values are the withdrawals , so we cannot consider this as withdrawals, it could be the values of people's earnings. That's why it's important in cases like these where someone has a certain doubt to post a link that leads to the website they have doubts about, and also to post a complete photo of the thing, so we can see what's really happening.

I think you can check it yourself, click on that name and see his betting patterns, if it seems true, then nothing is out of the norm. But there could be casinos out there that who knows, maybe they are rigging the results or something.

But in any case, it's hard to see in the image that you posted, it's incomplete as far as I'm concern.

And it could be the amount of bets that the user that you are seeing here that's why it's the same and base on the timestamp, it could be the case. At least that's how I see it on my end.

If this raised a concern with you especially with Slots game then you might be much more curious when you see dice gambling platforms where high rollers winning streak with much higher bet or winnings than this.

This is pretty much common on RNG games on casino as you can minimize you multiplier to make sure that you'll have a higher chance of winning each bets. If you're that curious or suspicious on the bet, some platforms offer you to see and verify the bets shown but some won't and it varies on the player if they'll allow the public to verify their bets.

Who do you call "original gamblers" I don't understand, someone here said they have already played this game Mega Gems from Betsoft and got the same results as above in the picture from OP? I didn't see that so I guess the post should have been deleted unfortunately... I've never played this slot since it doesn't seem to be available at the casinos where I gamble usually. But you can try a demo on the provider (Betsoft) website. And when I played there I didn't get a series of several winnings with the same number like in the OP picture above. So I would be a little bit surprised if a regular player of this game had told that. But maybe the amounts shown on the picture are not the payouts but just the amounts bet of the winning spins.


https://betsoft.com/play-demo/?id=900

To some extent inthink this look ok for me and nothing really wrong with the screenshots and results on the history and if there is any it could be as a result of technical glitches on the site and nothing to worry at this point and also you should know that if at the end it still display wrong bet settling then you can possibly get in touch with the casino support to be sure of what is happening.


Also note that, as much as we can have fake trading volumes on exchange same goes with casinos also, there may likely be the possibilities of fake bets also

This is how the betting history should look like, it's available in all crypto casinos ... only thing is that this image is not complete, the result after each spin is not visible. I have checked my spin history many times, mostly for some promotion or just to brag about my positive and sometimes negative results. So I don't see anything strange in this picture, it's usually how it should look when someone spins the slots.

This will be a question for another day because the way I see the result of payout there is not normal because I don't think a slot game or a spinner could win exact amount of money every time, I don't think that is possible in anyway but I cannot opposed the result since of the original gamblers has said it that it is possible. I am still thinking of it how it is happened? Because if some used small amount to gamble frequently, it not supposed to repeat itself for the same amount to be payout every time. It looks suspicious.

This is also what I'm thinking when he brought his concern here, as a slot player, it's possible that the players are using the same bet as the same time that's why they have the same pattern or results.


Or if the casino is provably fair then the OP can check it manually if he is the one playing just to see if everything sits out correct as he has concern about the results that he is trying to show us. As a lessons though, if you have the gut feeling that something is wrong with the casino that you are playing, then simply stop and then go to other reputable casinos that we have here in our community so that you will not worry about this kind of issues.

Well, a legitimate question, but it is something like looking for "the five legs of the cat" without need.

One way to verify them is by doing a personal betting round, usually my betting tables/list are fine but they are red, , well that depends on the game.

Most casinos show these live payments... well there are people who like to watch the results of others.

but they do have their use, in addition to being a way to verify traffic, etc., I used them or I use them in crash, for example, there I can see the average payout of a certain multiplier in thousands of rounds and I can intuit (so, one believes it, belief (fe)) if +2x is in trend...

1. Of course, specially if those players or just yourself having that kind of playing on a single game like slots which using up on the same base bet amount and hitting up those similar rewards or combinations and if you are really just that you only is the one that playing then it would really be just your username would really be reflecting out and i do agree on those post earlier or some members that if you are in doubt
then you could really be able to check it for yourself whether it is really that not repeated via with those game hashes on which this is something that you could really be able to peak
on and tell that those roll results are really just that different to each other.

2. Stick with reputable or known platforms, you would really be definitely be able to save up yourself on stressing whether you are dealing with the right site or really that dealing with a scam one.
We do know that there are lots of scam casinos nowadays on which it would really be that normal that we should really be making up some search first on which site that we are really tending to deposit.
If you dont really make yourself that wary then you might really be ending up on playing on sites which are really that shady and might be ending up on getting scammed.

If you do see those patterns and it do looks suspicious. Then why not really be tending to tell the sites name and would be sharing it up so that
the community would really be able to know and see whether you are dealing with a good site or a shady one? but in overall its not really a solid
indication of those kind of observation that the site is showing some shady acts since those are really just that casual ones.

That is slot game and your doubts is nothing to worry about. Maybe you can reveal what casino you took the screenshot from so that users can also do a check on that but I think there is no concerns about manipulation from just the screenshot you displayed, if you could drop the casino that will help to check if they are manipulated but the shots are not unusual.

I see this as normal winning; this can just be some winning from RNG games where the player only uses a small amount to wager or from some kind of free spinning.
 
Even if casinos want to manipulate their winnings and show some large amounts of winnings, if it happens frequently, they will not make the mistake of repeating numbers or even the user ID won't be repeated because it will be a mess on their side. As the above member said, game IDs can be used to verify that exact game for the casino, which enables that option. You can use that to verify if that amount was truly won or not.
 
I don't see anything unusual in the winning figures displayed on your screenshot unless you have other details to prove otherwise, which are not visible on this screenshot.

It depends on the casino, if you’re referring to a casino that has a good reputation and also has quite a good amount of traffic then those payout you see at their casino are most likely true and not fake.

But I can’t say the same for a small casino that has a very low amount of traffic, some of them do fake those payouts in other to convince first timers that they are indeed paying their customers… if you check most of those reputable casino you’ll see that sometimes they include the tx id for easy verification but for those faking theirs I can’t say the same for them.

Your screenshot is normal because the game is slot games which obviously player on,y use same amount of bet on same game consistently. The timing of his bets coincides on the spin speed of slot games. There’s a game ID available to verify each bets. Your screenshot doesn’t show it but most of the casino has the feature to see the bet results by clicking the game ID.

You will see manipulation if all the players name is just from random name generator software and if the casino is not that popular while they still have a lot of player consistently placing bets.

 I saw something that caught my attention. I've recently been curious about the live payout displays in online casinos and wanted to gather some insights from the community. It seems that sometimes, when observing these live payouts, there are instances of repeated results, and I'm wondering if this is normal or if there might be something more to it. my question here is
1.Have you observed repeated IDs and payouts while playing in online casinos, and do you think these patterns are a cause for concern? 
2.Are these displays genuinely based on real-time data, or could there be instances of manipulation or programmed repetition? 
Some how I feel these data aren't updated and are only programmed so as to attract more players into using their casino.