Catalyst 11.7 and 11.8 preview drivers available !!!!

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Quote from: mike678 on August 17, 2011, 06:00:02 PM

Uh I'm using 11.7 with no dummy plugs?

Sorry, didn't realize. I went from 11.6 -> 11.8preview and was pleasantly surprised.

And yes, when you go from having a monitor plugged in to no monitor plugged in, you'll get an extra 3-5 MH/s (at least I do on all my 5xxx series cards & Win7-64)

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Quote from: fcmatt on August 18, 2011, 12:48:14 AM

Quote from: simonk83 on August 17, 2011, 11:30:34 PM

So what's the process for installing new drivers?

Just uninstall, reboot and reinstall new ones?

or uninstall, drivercleaner, reinstall new ones?

Do you need to piss about with the SDK version or is that all just installed as part of the catalyst installation?

Ta

I was using 11.6 and I just plastered 11.8 right over them. then rebooted. turn off control center after that.
win 7 64 bit.

Sounds good, thanks

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Quote from: simonk83 on August 17, 2011, 11:30:34 PM

So what's the process for installing new drivers?

Just uninstall, reboot and reinstall new ones?

or uninstall, drivercleaner, reinstall new ones?

Do you need to piss about with the SDK version or is that all just installed as part of the catalyst installation?

Ta

I was using 11.6 and I just plastered 11.8 right over them. then rebooted. turn off control center after that.
win 7 64 bit.

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So what's the process for installing new drivers?

Just uninstall, reboot and reinstall new ones?

or uninstall, drivercleaner, reinstall new ones?

Do you need to piss about with the SDK version or is that all just installed as part of the catalyst installation?

Ta

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There was an 11.6b where it started IIRC.

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Quote from: CanaryInTheMine on August 17, 2011, 07:21:45 PM

you don't need dummy plugs with 11.7 and up... can't recall if it really started with 11.6 though...

It was 11.7 and up. Before I got my 5th 5850 working I was on 11.6 and it required dummy plugs.

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Quote from: mike678 on August 17, 2011, 06:00:02 PM

Quote from: PcChip on August 17, 2011, 05:17:55 PM

I wanted to let everyone know that the 11.8 preview makes dummy plugs UN-NEEDED!

Why is this a big deal for me? Because I refused to use dummy plugs since it lost me 3-5 MH/s per GPU so I always just swapped monitors back and forth between cards to spin up each instance, then removed the monitor and left them to mine.

Now with 11.8, I can specify DEVICE=0 and DEVICE=1 without TOUCHING THE MONITOR CABLE!!!!

Fully remote, at last! (don't have to walk in there to plug in monitors when the rigs crash [which is often, due to clock settings and improper vrm cooling])

Uh I'm using 11.7 with no dummy plugs?

you don't need dummy plugs with 11.7 and up... can't recall if it really started with 11.6 though...

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Quote from: PcChip on August 17, 2011, 05:17:55 PM

I wanted to let everyone know that the 11.8 preview makes dummy plugs UN-NEEDED!

Why is this a big deal for me? Because I refused to use dummy plugs since it lost me 3-5 MH/s per GPU so I always just swapped monitors back and forth between cards to spin up each instance, then removed the monitor and left them to mine.

Now with 11.8, I can specify DEVICE=0 and DEVICE=1 without TOUCHING THE MONITOR CABLE!!!!

Fully remote, at last! (don't have to walk in there to plug in monitors when the rigs crash [which is often, due to clock settings and improper vrm cooling])

Uh I'm using 11.7 with no dummy plugs?

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Quote from: Elder III on August 17, 2011, 05:02:33 PM

So, no 100% CPU core useage with 11.8 drivers? If so I will definitely try them out on my machines, if not I'll save the effort...

11.8 still uses a core fully when i set my two miners to use only that cpu.

i need to try out the no dummy plug thing.. as i run headless on a couple of boxes. i will be shocked to get more mh/s though.

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I wanted to let everyone know that the 11.8 preview makes dummy plugs UN-NEEDED!

Why is this a big deal for me? Because I refused to use dummy plugs since it lost me 3-5 MH/s per GPU so I always just swapped monitors back and forth between cards to spin up each instance, then removed the monitor and left them to mine.

Now with 11.8, I can specify DEVICE=0 and DEVICE=1 without TOUCHING THE MONITOR CABLE!!!!

Fully remote, at last! (don't have to walk in there to plug in monitors when the rigs crash [which is often, due to clock settings and improper vrm cooling])

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So, no 100% CPU core useage with 11.8 drivers? If so I will definitely try them out on my machines, if not I'll save the effort...

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11.8 no gain but no pain.
i approve these drivers if you just want to stay up2date. 5830x2 running at 317 mh/s with
a 980 clock/300 mem on win 7 64 bit. temps are 58 and 50C.

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Quote from: ZombieDeity on August 13, 2011, 08:15:46 AM

Quote from: TurboK on July 27, 2011, 07:24:56 PM

11.7 WHQL fixes it too, but both 11.7 and 11.8 now trigger max cpu usage in *any* opencl app.

What I've found is that it appears to use 100% CPU, but that processing time is not actually tied up. I can mine on two of my 6990s and play a very demanding game on the other one (which I assume is also using shit-tons of CPU power, and not experience any slowness from either application.

So, I think the 100% CPU problem shouldn't really be a consideration when choosing drivers... unless your experience had been different.

Yes and no. I've experience the same thing. The 100% CPU bug will not bog down other processes and apps because it will cede the CPU power back over if need be. The problem is that it still runs at 100% regardless, so it's using that extra power constantly to keep the CPU at 100%. If your CPU is a 95W CPU, it's using 95W extra that it doesn't need to be using. If you have multiple rigs, that extra power draw can add up quickly.

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Quote from: TurboK on July 27, 2011, 07:24:56 PM

11.7 WHQL fixes it too, but both 11.7 and 11.8 now trigger max cpu usage in *any* opencl app.

What I've found is that it appears to use 100% CPU, but that processing time is not actually tied up. I can mine on two of my 6990s and play a very demanding game on the other one (which I assume is also using shit-tons of CPU power, and not experience any slowness from either application.

So, I think the 100% CPU problem shouldn't really be a consideration when choosing drivers... unless your experience had been different.

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Still generally new to mining but here is what I have seen with 11.7:

on windows 7-64 (home premium) using a HD5770 the 11.7 gained me 4mhs.. but forced one of the cpus to 100% (no matter affinity)
- I restored the 11.6 and lost the small gain but also lost the cpu running out of control. (AMD X2/ASUS board/690G/SB600)

on windows 7-64 (pro) using a HD6950 the 11.7 gained me a good 10mhs and I don't appear to have any cpu's running out of control (no matter affinity) - left 11.7 in place. (AMD X6/ASUS board/890FX/SB850)

I also popped a new drive in the 5770 machine (ASUS with the 690G/SB600 chipset) over the weekend and played around with Ubuntu...

with SDK 2.4 + 11.7 on ubu 11.04 I had one cpu out of control.

with SDK 2.1 + 11.6 on ubu 11.04 I had no cpu out of control... but the 5770 was burning up... so I just swapped back to the win7 drive until I have more time to troubleshoot that.

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wish they would work on fixing that damn cpu comsumption when you have more than one gpu

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Technical Information:

*** STOP: 0x1000007e (0xffffffffc0000094, 0xfffff880048ec909, 0xfffff88002badfa8,
0xfffff88002bad800)

*** atikmdag.sys - Address 0xfffff88004af3456 base at 0xfffff88004806000 DateStamp
0x4e1676c7

How in the hell did you get a screencap of a BSOD?

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i too tried catalyst 11.7 and experienced an ~10% down in mhash rate.
also another side-effect was a constant use of cpu for every poclbm instance run with guiminer.
of course a downgrade was the solution to 11.6.

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Quote from: Meatball on July 28, 2011, 02:36:34 PM

I started getting the atikmdag.sys bluescreens as well, but it looks like it's related to something with MSI afterburner.

Any time I tweaked any of the clock speeds from the default clock it'd crash. Disable the Unofficial overclocking EULA flags in the config file might have done it as well.

Maybe it's a conflict between catalyst control center and MSI, but regardless, that seemed to help me.

I thought that too. When I first started mining, I ran my GPU at stock - I was too scared too overclock. Then I took the leap and used MSI afterburner - got my first blue screen (the one posted in this thread) It then happened a few more times. Couldn't afford the downtime so I uninstalled MSi afterburner and went back to stock and all was fine. I now use Sapphire TRIXX to overclock and its actually been fine, but one day last week i did get a BSOD.

To me its not fixed - well in the sense that even though its been fine for days, it did happen once with the current setup, so I'm inclined to believe that its still lurking around - I just haven't done anything to the system to make it crash yet, but I'm sure its only a matter of time.

I personally feel that MSI afterburner did something thats messed things up. Would like to know if anybody is getting BSOD with the "atikmdag.sys" file error and they have NEVER installed MSI afterburner?

I've read some guides on how to replace the "atikmdag.sys" in windows system with a different version from the drivers exe. I'm wondering whether replacing the current (and broken) sys file with say either an older versions in 10.4/10.5 might fix the problem?

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Quote from: haydent on July 28, 2011, 09:38:42 PM

(1 core yes)

i have started a thread at amd dev forum - opencl section about the 100% cpu usage bug with >1 gpu installed. feel free to jump over there and post your support for this issue being addressed...

http://forums.amd.com/devforum/messageview.cfm?catid=390&threadid=153211&enterthread=y

Done

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Quote from: simonk83 on July 28, 2011, 08:33:09 PM

Nope. That's the combo I have at the moment, and I get the 100% usage bug Wink

you mean 100% on a single core ?

Yes.

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(1 core yes)

i have started a thread at amd dev forum - opencl section about the 100% cpu usage bug with >1 gpu installed. feel free to jump over there and post your support for this issue being addressed...

http://forums.amd.com/devforum/messageview.cfm?catid=390&threadid=153211&enterthread=y

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Quote from: simonk83 on July 28, 2011, 08:33:09 PM

Quote from: kr105 on July 28, 2011, 08:31:55 PM

Quote from: TurboK on July 28, 2011, 06:54:29 PM

Quote from: shivansps on July 28, 2011, 06:01:50 PM

Quote from: TurboK on July 27, 2011, 07:24:56 PM

Quote from: shivansps on July 27, 2011, 06:27:19 PM

11.8 preview fixes the problems of hangs while mining and watching videos.

11.7 WHQL fixes it too, but both 11.7 and 11.8 now trigger max cpu usage in *any* opencl app.

thats SDK problem, not the driver... try using OpenCL 2.4 and 11.7 or 11.8.

I've tried different SDK versions, and 11.6 never gave me 100% cpu usage. 11.7 however ALWAYS gave me 100% cpu usage.

It's a driver bug.

You mean SDK 2.4 + driver 11.6 = No 100% CPU usage?

Nope. That's the combo I have at the moment, and I get the 100% usage bug Wink

same, thats what i came from too, and its 100% still there.

11.7 no flash lockups ! finally...

had blue screen lockup too and ati tray tools lockups, had to unitstall it then reinstall it and recreate OC profiles in it.

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Quote from: kr105 on July 28, 2011, 08:31:55 PM

Quote from: TurboK on July 28, 2011, 06:54:29 PM

Quote from: shivansps on July 28, 2011, 06:01:50 PM

Quote from: TurboK on July 27, 2011, 07:24:56 PM

Quote from: shivansps on July 27, 2011, 06:27:19 PM

11.8 preview fixes the problems of hangs while mining and watching videos.

11.7 WHQL fixes it too, but both 11.7 and 11.8 now trigger max cpu usage in *any* opencl app.

thats SDK problem, not the driver... try using OpenCL 2.4 and 11.7 or 11.8.

I've tried different SDK versions, and 11.6 never gave me 100% cpu usage. 11.7 however ALWAYS gave me 100% cpu usage.

It's a driver bug.

You mean SDK 2.4 + driver 11.6 = No 100% CPU usage?

Nope. That's the combo I have at the moment, and I get the 100% usage bug Wink

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Quote from: TurboK on July 28, 2011, 06:54:29 PM

Quote from: shivansps on July 28, 2011, 06:01:50 PM

Quote from: TurboK on July 27, 2011, 07:24:56 PM

Quote from: shivansps on July 27, 2011, 06:27:19 PM

11.8 preview fixes the problems of hangs while mining and watching videos.

11.7 WHQL fixes it too, but both 11.7 and 11.8 now trigger max cpu usage in *any* opencl app.

thats SDK problem, not the driver... try using OpenCL 2.4 and 11.7 or 11.8.

I've tried different SDK versions, and 11.6 never gave me 100% cpu usage. 11.7 however ALWAYS gave me 100% cpu usage.

It's a driver bug.

You mean SDK 2.4 + driver 11.6 = No 100% CPU usage?

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Quote from: shivansps on July 28, 2011, 06:01:50 PM

Quote from: TurboK on July 27, 2011, 07:24:56 PM

Quote from: shivansps on July 27, 2011, 06:27:19 PM

11.8 preview fixes the problems of hangs while mining and watching videos.

11.7 WHQL fixes it too, but both 11.7 and 11.8 now trigger max cpu usage in *any* opencl app.

thats SDK problem, not the driver... try using OpenCL 2.4 and 11.7 or 11.8.

I've tried different SDK versions, and 11.6 never gave me 100% cpu usage. 11.7 however ALWAYS gave me 100% cpu usage.

It's a driver bug.

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Ah so hardware acceleration is fine on 11.7 and 11.8, but one thing i noticed on flash videos is... I drop from 425Mh/s to 350Mh/s -_-
All I need is youtube's player to scale correctly without HW accel., It does on videos that have 1080p, but 720p and under, in full screen, scale like garbage.
Maybe there is a thread already for this, or maybe I should make one about it lol

-ck

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Ruu \o/

So potentially the 11.7 drivers can fix the 100% CPU usage bug on windows. Well they've done a 180 degree turnaround and now the 11.7 driver uses 100% cpu on linux when mining where previously it was perfectly fine. Sad

Perhaps it's awaiting the next SDK version (2.5) to work properly, but with SDK 2.4 the CPU usage is sky high. I don't see anywhere obvious to download this alleged sdk2.5 by itself yet.

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Quote from: TurboK on July 27, 2011, 07:24:56 PM

Quote from: shivansps on July 27, 2011, 06:27:19 PM

11.8 preview fixes the problems of hangs while mining and watching videos.

11.7 WHQL fixes it too, but both 11.7 and 11.8 now trigger max cpu usage in *any* opencl app.

thats SDK problem, not the driver... try using OpenCL 2.4 and 11.7 or 11.8.

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I started getting the atikmdag.sys bluescreens as well, but it looks like it's related to something with MSI afterburner.

Any time I tweaked any of the clock speeds from the default clock it'd crash. Disable the Unofficial overclocking EULA flags in the config file might have done it as well.

Maybe it's a conflict between catalyst control center and MSI, but regardless, that seemed to help me.

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Technical Information:

*** STOP: 0x1000007e (0xffffffffc0000094, 0xfffff880048ec909, 0xfffff88002badfa8,
0xfffff88002bad800)

*** atikmdag.sys - Address 0xfffff88004af3456 base at 0xfffff88004806000 DateStamp
0x4e1676c7

Gosh the day they actually fix this - we should throw a friggin party! Its there on 11.6 was hoping 11.7/11.8 would be better - I guess sadly not!.

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Quote from: Thormandy on July 28, 2011, 01:11:16 AM

Well the CPU bug still exists with 11.8 preview, my CPU (2600k @ 4.7Ghz) is pegged at 14% usage when mining.
Curious, using 11.8 preview, does hardware acceleration on flash videos (youtube for example) freeze up while mining still, I don't want my card to freeze up just to test it lol.
Also I can't stand youtube's player without hardware acceleration, it scales horribly and makes it look very pixelated unless it's a 1080p video.
Seems like I get 1Mh/s more going from 11.7 preview to 11.8 preview lol

Hardware accelerated flash works fine with 11.7 for me. Not a single freeze.

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Well the CPU bug still exists with 11.8 preview, my CPU (2600k @ 4.7Ghz) is pegged at 14% usage when mining.
Curious, using 11.8 preview, does hardware acceleration on flash videos (youtube for example) freeze up while mining still, I don't want my card to freeze up just to test it lol.
Also I can't stand youtube's player without hardware acceleration, it scales horribly and makes it look very pixelated unless it's a 1080p video.
Seems like I get 1Mh/s more going from 11.7 preview to 11.8 preview lol

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What's the recommended prodedure for upgrading again? (I'm on 11.6).

Uninstall drivers through windows (or Linux, whatever)
Reboot into safe mode
Run driversweeper
Reboot
Install 11.7?

I'd like to just be lazy and install 11.7 over the top, but I don't suppose it's worth it

Interested to see how these drivers improve performance (or otherwise). Certainly a shame that the 100% cpu bug isn't fixed, but as someone above mentioned, it's good that it's a more widespread problem now. Hopefully in 11.8 hey.

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Yay I can finally post in the real forums.

Anywho the driver caused my machine to BSOD for some reason... possibly because I didn't bring my clocks back to normal before updating to 11.7

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Quote from: TurboK on July 27, 2011, 07:24:56 PM

Quote from: shivansps on July 27, 2011, 06:27:19 PM

11.8 preview fixes the problems of hangs while mining and watching videos.

11.7 WHQL fixes it too, but both 11.7 and 11.8 now trigger max cpu usage in *any* opencl app.

This is actually a good thing. Maybe more people will jump on AMD to fix this other than 'just those crazies that are bitcoin mining'.

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Technical Information:

*** STOP: 0x1000007e (0xffffffffc0000094, 0xfffff880048ec909, 0xfffff88002badfa8,
0xfffff88002bad800)

*** atikmdag.sys - Address 0xfffff88004af3456 base at 0xfffff88004806000 DateStamp
0x4e1676c7

I got a blue screen as well during installation of 11.7 from 11.7 preview.

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Quote from: shivansps on July 27, 2011, 06:27:19 PM

11.8 preview fixes the problems of hangs while mining and watching videos.

11.7 WHQL fixes it too, but both 11.7 and 11.8 now trigger max cpu usage in *any* opencl app.

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Technical Information:

*** STOP: 0x1000007e (0xffffffffc0000094, 0xfffff880048ec909, 0xfffff88002badfa8,
0xfffff88002bad800)

*** atikmdag.sys - Address 0xfffff88004af3456 base at 0xfffff88004806000 DateStamp
0x4e1676c7

Go into safe mode, disable CCC in msconfig, use dummy plugs, be happy.

If that was the answer to your question: Congratulations!
If not: Sorry!

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11.8 preview fixes the problems of hangs while mining and watching videos.

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^Lol,I guess that is why they released the 11.8 drivers.I have to say that I had some problems at first installing for my 6950 but after using driversweeper and driver cleaner to remove any excess driver and ccc profiles I noticed a performance increase from the 11.7 previews of about 1-2 M/hash a sec @ the exact same clocks of 870 core/755 mem. using -v -w128 -f30.

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just installing 11,7 on top of 11,6 hashrate drops 60% (reboot fixed this)
yes no dummy needed
it still uses 1 core at 100%

Booooo CPU at 100% not cool Angry

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it still uses 1 core at 100%

*commits ritual seppuku*

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Yeah lets know how stable they are, also I heard you dont need to use dummy plugs with these new drivers ? How true is that ?

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Looks like the Catalyst 11.7 WHQL and 11.8 preview drivers are out.Haven't had the chance to test them yet,but it would be good to know if it increases anyone's Mining rate.

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