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Quote from: lionheart78 on June 21, 2023, 04:09:16 PM

Surely one of the unrealistic sports betting expectations is beating the house or the bookmakers. Bettor will never beat the bookmaker because they have control over the process. If the bookmaker sees the player winning continuously, they often limit this player from betting huge amounts. We have seen several cases like this in this forum where players that are gaining advantage on thier bet are often blocked or limited. This os one way of the sports book to keep them from bankruptcy.

Sometimes, the reason for sportsbooks limiting certain gamblers isn't because they don't want them to have an edge over them or make them bankrupt, but it is because they suspect that the gambler is cheating or something because if they get about 10 or some consecutive wins, they will surely suspect that something is surely wrong and that is how the gambler is constantly winning without a single loss.

I don't see any reason why bookies need to limit your account if you're winning too much, specially if the sports that you are betting on are popular sports that a lot of people are also betting on. They are doing the freeze to limit your winnings, and for them to collect more money in order to pay you should you continue your winning streak and nothing else. I mean, how can you say that a bettor is cheating you on your platform if he doesn't have any control on the outcome of the event that he bet on?

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Quote from: lionheart78 on June 21, 2023, 04:09:16 PM

Surely one of the unrealistic sports betting expectations is beating the house or the bookmakers. Bettor will never beat the bookmaker because they have control over the process. If the bookmaker sees the player winning continuously, they often limit this player from betting huge amounts. We have seen several cases like this in this forum where players that are gaining advantage on thier bet are often blocked or limited. This os one way of the sports book to keep them from bankruptcy.

Sometimes, the reason for sportsbooks limiting certain gamblers isn't because they don't want them to have an edge over them or make them bankrupt, but it is because they suspect that the gambler is cheating or something because if they get about 10 or some consecutive wins, they will surely suspect that something is surely wrong and that is how the gambler is constantly winning without a single loss.

But you are also right that some platforms, especially new ones which don't have a lot of reputation or gamblers, tend to limit player accounts so that they don't keep winning their bets or at least don't be able to bet over a specific amount only to reduce their winning amount for each bet.

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Unrealistic gains in betting is only possible through sports bet, or maybe I should say that more easier with sports bet, not the other ways like Roulette and Slots, if you time the match perfectly and also you are not out of the luck swap yet, but a professional football lover can make this happen easily vs Slots gamblers.

In order for this to happen, you will still need a lucky charm, regardless of how good you are at this.

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The second category. Tipsters.
I don't believe those. But I know they are analytically reviewed so the chance is higher. I doubt they are fixed games too unless it's a small match in some province. But I have never seen those games listed in popular sports bookies.

Unless they are making parlay bets which are high risk then it is really unrealistic. $1000 can be $100k in one long parlay bet but it needs a lot of knowledge about different sports. I sometimes try to bet at x100 at Table Tennis in different countries but have no luck in winning those games because I also know nothing about the players.
Sometimes, when I see I can cash it out with just 10x then I will take it without any regrets afterward. All the ended parlay without cashing out though have no records of win. I thought it will be fun at first but as it goes by, it sucks. Just a waste of money. A sports gambler really needs to know something about the game he will bet for. It cannot be a guess.

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Quote from: len01 on June 22, 2023, 12:45:11 AM

as has been quoted by @AbuBhakar
getting $ 100 thousand using a budget of $ 1000 is not impossible even in 2-3 months it can be obtained as long as doing prediction research is a little complicated and of course you have to be consistent with every bet you place.
nothing is impossible to make big profit from sports betting as there is already solid proof in this forum except using $1 bankroll to get $100k win is very impossible.

I don't agree with what you guys are saying because betting is not that easy in 2 to 3 months earning $100,000 using $1000 capital by only doing complex and consistent research because in betting there is bound to be defeat and many unexpected results that don't make sense in sports betting.
Have you forgotten that there are tons of sports matches that have absurd results.

My advice is only one, never expect more and too high from the stakes and it's better to be grateful for what you have got without greedy thoughts.

Oh I thought $100 but it was $100,000 because he wrote three zeros on the back with the words, well that seems like a nice theory but in reality, it's just hard to get, even when gamblers are so very aggressive in their betting by only targeting odds under @1.30 some bets the loser has sufficiently reduced the number of wins he got previously, because even though we are very thorough in doing research there are times when things don't go right, so actually in gambling there is no certainty, but if there are gamblers who can do this because they can win bets quite often on parlay because parlay bets can make our balance increase quite significantly if we are able to win it.

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Quote from: len01 on June 22, 2023, 12:45:11 AM

as has been quoted by @AbuBhakar
getting $ 100 thousand using a budget of $ 1000 is not impossible even in 2-3 months it can be obtained as long as doing prediction research is a little complicated and of course you have to be consistent with every bet you place.
nothing is impossible to make big profit from sports betting as there is already solid proof in this forum except using $1 bankroll to get $100k win is very impossible.

I don't agree with what you guys are saying because betting is not that easy in 2 to 3 months earning $100,000 using $1000 capital by only doing complex and consistent research because in betting there is bound to be defeat and many unexpected results that don't make sense in sports betting.
Have you forgotten that there are tons of sports matches that have absurd results.

My advice is only one, never expect more and too high from the stakes and it's better to be grateful for what you have got without greedy thoughts.

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as has been quoted by @AbuBhakar
getting $ 100 thousand using a budget of $ 1000 is not impossible even in 2-3 months it can be obtained as long as doing prediction research is a little complicated and of course you have to be consistent with every bet you place.
nothing is impossible to make big profit from sports betting as there is already solid proof in this forum except using $1 bankroll to get $100k win is very impossible.

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Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

We encounter different categories of sports bettors every day, both online and offline. However, some of them express unrealistic expectations regarding their potential winnings.

The first category is composed of sports bettors with a $1000 bankroll who hope to make $100,000 by the end of the year. In what universe do they think this is possible? Such expectations are unrealistic and only occur in the lottery, not in sports betting. Even in sports betting, it would be a chance occurrence, happening only once in every 100 bets. A more realistic expectation would be to aim for increasing their bankroll.

The second category consists of individuals seeking guaranteed wins and fixed bets or matches. These individuals are frequently seen on platforms such as Twitter, Telegram, Discord, and others where sports betting is discussed. They are often the first to express their desire for guaranteed games and fixed matches/bets, believing they will surely win. Unfortunately, these individuals are easily scammed due to scammers taking advantage of their gullibility.

What other categories of unrealistic sports betting expectations have you encountered?

I believe it is possible to achieve one or the other of these goals.

To exponentially multiply your bankroll you need to make risky bets, as much as turning 1k into 100k is difficult, it is not impossible if people are really determined to risk the value they have and choose the right games and casinos to do so.

On the other hand, sports games tend to be very "predictable" if you choose the correct championships, so it is possible to "win (almost) always", but unfortunately the gains you have with this strategy decrease a lot, because the best profits are obtained in the most risky bets or those in which the result came out far from what was expected.

In my opinion it is necessary to reconcile both... most of the time play it safe betting in favor of the forecasts, but from time to time it is necessary to risk more unpredictable bets to try to increase the winnings.

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I guess I wouldn't really call the first one an unrealistic expectation. It’s something that is doable with a consistent betting strategy and a sports that you really know to the core. Also, if you are conservative with your betting budget and you know when to stop especially on a losing streak, there’s a high chance that you’ll be able to earn a lot and build your bankroll.

As for an unrealistic expectation, I guess that’s just hitting a lot of multiple winstreak and building your goal in just a short span of time. No matter how sharp you are in betting, there will always be a few bets out there that will really destroy your rhythm.

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Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

The first category is composed of sports bettors with a $1000 bankroll who hope to make $100,000 by the end of the year. In what universe do they think this is possible? Such expectations are unrealistic and only occur in the lottery, not in sports betting. Even in sports betting, it would be a chance occurrence, happening only once in every 100 bets. A more realistic expectation would be to aim for increasing their bankroll.

Technically, $100,000 is an increase of there bankroll should they by any means come by that amount.
I recall a gambler not quite long on the forum who lost, $90,000 to a sportbook game on Stake. It was a league 2 or 3 division sport and according to the gambler, he grew his $90,000 from a $4,000 bankroll. That's still an increase and significant one even though, its 4x what's described in the OP.

Although, gamblers out to see out winnings that cound be archived easily, not high stake risks. Same attitude has been attributes to crypto investors and that's not it. Be realistic in what you hope to win.

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on June 21, 2023, 04:30:48 PM

Yes, we do continually hearing up these kind of stories but of course we should only believe into those legit ones and something that would really be happening because there are some various situations which turns out not

to be real but we know that a certain person could really be ending up on committing such decision due to extreme or severe addiction on which it do leads on having no proper decisions on their lives or certain
conditions on which they would really be needing to choose up wisely or else then they would really be putting themselves on great trouble. Is there something that we can do about it?

I believe what we can do is to explain to people around us the risks of gambling and how to play in a healthy way. Moreover, just by being realistic and not being misleading when talking about gambling, we are already doing our part to educate people on this matter. The problem nowadays is that many individuals who have never had any kind of contact with gambling, due to governments' prohibitions, are being heavily exposed to it through so many betting platforms (mainly on sports scene). So they are pretty raw on this matter and end having the wrong impression about gambling.

When their expectations are not fulfilled, they become desperate and commit extreme acts, like the student who took his own life. So we can contribute keeping people's feet on the ground.

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Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

We encounter different categories of sports bettors every day, both online and offline. However, some of them express unrealistic expectations regarding their potential winnings.

The first category is composed of sports bettors with a $1000 bankroll who hope to make $100,000 by the end of the year. In what universe do they think this is possible? Such expectations are unrealistic and only occur in the lottery, not in sports betting. Even in sports betting, it would be a chance occurrence, happening only once in every 100 bets. A more realistic expectation would be to aim for increasing their bankroll.

this could be extremely hard but I don't think it is unrealistic, with luck, proper money management, and knowledge of the game, etc... though could be extremely hard, it is possible to achieve, especially if you have 1 year(if you start at the beginning of the year) to turn $1k into $100k. some members mentioned NAPK1NS_RA3, using him as an example shows that it is not unrealistic.

It is possible but it will take time. We can't generate such an amount of profit in just a short period. We know that if our target profit is huge, then our capital must be huge as well. To make it happen, the gambler must have an effective strategy and be wise in every move that he would make. However, if a player is compulsive especially when it comes to decision-making, there's also a risk that instead of reaching his target profit, he might lose the same amount.
Sometimes our expectations that exceed the reality could bring us into more losses. We have to keep in mind that gambling has risks that we have to deal with and that the result mostly relies on our luck. We can expect big profits but we can't disregard the fact that we can also face losses along the way. If we will have an unrealistic target, we might end up chasing our losses just to reach what we want.

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Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

We encounter different categories of sports bettors every day, both online and offline. However, some of them express unrealistic expectations regarding their potential winnings.

The first category is composed of sports bettors with a $1000 bankroll who hope to make $100,000 by the end of the year. In what universe do they think this is possible? Such expectations are unrealistic and only occur in the lottery, not in sports betting. Even in sports betting, it would be a chance occurrence, happening only once in every 100 bets. A more realistic expectation would be to aim for increasing their bankroll.

Excuse me my friend, don't say what you have a limited information about, when sport betting want to favor you, even the casino would want to have something to do with you but of course, it depends on individuality and luck, so don't say it's not possible or unrealistic. I know a guy who have played 3k odds on a trial of 5th bet and I was surprised that all of the selected games went as they were predicted, gambling indeed it's a luck and skill but more of luck and when it shine on any gambler, it's becomes hard to explain.

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The second category consists of individuals seeking guaranteed wins and fixed bets or matches. These individuals are frequently seen on platforms such as Twitter, Telegram, Discord, and others where sports betting is discussed. They are often the first to express their desire for guaranteed games and fixed matches/bets, believing they will surely win. Unfortunately, these individuals are easily scammed due to scammers taking advantage of their gullibility.

What other categories of unrealistic sports betting expectations have you encountered?

A gambler that is looking around for fixed bet is a lazy one and not only looking for way to play for fun but they are their to make quick money from gambling. There is a difference between try your skill and luck to make money and put your money on something you have been given tips about, that's not gambling, it's more of cheating the casinos and if you get caught, it's punishable by law anywhere.

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Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

We encounter different categories of sports bettors every day, both online and offline. However, some of them express unrealistic expectations regarding their potential winnings.

The first category is composed of sports bettors with a $1000 bankroll who hope to make $100,000 by the end of the year. In what universe do they think this is possible? Such expectations are unrealistic and only occur in the lottery, not in sports betting. Even in sports betting, it would be a chance occurrence, happening only once in every 100 bets. A more realistic expectation would be to aim for increasing their bankroll.

this could be extremely hard but I don't think it is unrealistic, with luck, proper money management, and knowledge of the game, etc... though could be extremely hard, it is possible to achieve, especially if you have 1 year(if you start at the beginning of the year) to turn $1k into $100k. some members mentioned NAPK1NS_RA3, using him as an example shows that it is not unrealistic.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on June 20, 2023, 01:53:14 AM

I honestly laugh a lot when scammers write all outcomes as comments, hide them and after matches end only share accurate one. Many people are taking this bait. I don't think our government can solve this issue still.
I see that in sports betting, many people wanna try 2.5 plus or minus goals a lot. They feel its easier to bet on that compared to guessing accurate result. I think chances are not that different. And odds are much lower. I prefer guessing accurate result.

We have a plethora of fraudsters all over the market, and it's difficult to disclose the difference between a legitimate initiative and a forged one. Falling for low-cost scams these days is all too common for newcomers. It's not the case that I've seen beginners become victims of scamming initiatives; I've developed in the space and gained enough experience that things like that don't bother me; I'm more focused on my targets in the space. If the probability of profit and loss are less than 50/50, my aims are greater because they result in a big profit.

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Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

What other categories of unrealistic sports betting expectations have you encountered?

The category of gamblers who think it's a smart idea to chase losses.

Gamblers who take loans to bet, because they believe it works like a kind of investment on long term.

And the worst one: the category of players who steal money from others, including from their families, to maintain their gambling routine.

All those unrealistic gamblers are suffering from a disfunction on their behavior that lead them to not differentiate the real from the imaginary anymore. They lose contact with reality, do absurd things and regret later. Some even suicide, like that case which was shared here on forum weeks ago about the student who got the school bill's money from his classmate to gamble and lost everything.

Yes, we do continually hearing up these kind of stories but of course we should only believe into those legit ones and something that would really be happening because there are some various situations which turns out not

to be real but we know that a certain person could really be ending up on committing such decision due to extreme or severe addiction on which it do leads on having no proper decisions on their lives or certain
conditions on which they would really be needing to choose up wisely or else then they would really be putting themselves on great trouble. Is there something that we can do about it?
People should really be careful on what they are dealing with because everything which is too much would really be having that negative effect which is something we should really be that
sensible in towards our actions because if not then that would really be ending up on huge disaster which it might lead into suicide if you cant find any solutions into it.

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Surely one of the unrealistic sports betting expectations is beating the house or the bookmakers. Bettor will never beat the bookmaker because they have control over the process. If the bookmaker sees the player winning continuously, they often limit this player from betting huge amounts. We have seen several cases like this in this forum where players that are gaining advantage on thier bet are often blocked or limited. This os one way of the sports book to keep them from bankruptcy.

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Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

What other categories of unrealistic sports betting expectations have you encountered?

The category of gamblers who think it's a smart idea to chase losses.

Gamblers who take loans to bet, because they believe it works like a kind of investment on long term.

And the worst one: the category of players who steal money from others, including from their families, to maintain their gambling routine.

All those unrealistic gamblers are suffering from a disfunction on their behavior that lead them to not differentiate the real from the imaginary anymore. They lose contact with reality, do absurd things and regret later. Some even suicide, like that case which was shared here on forum weeks ago about the student who got the school bill's money from his classmate to gamble and lost everything.

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I add other categories.
Gamblers who play on events or sports of which they know nothing (maybe this sometimes happens to everyone here Grin

because sometimes we play just for the pleasure of betting and no more). The real problem arise when big bets are placed or its become an habit.

Other one, players producing long list of events (10/15) hoping to hit a jackpot.
in general if the events are simple, the final prize is really low. ... if these events are complex it's really hard to guess... so its just a waste of time/money.

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Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

We encounter different categories of sports bettors every day, both online and offline. However, some of them express unrealistic expectations regarding their potential winnings.

The first category is composed of sports bettors with a $1000 bankroll who hope to make $100,000 by the end of the year. In what universe do they think this is possible? Such expectations are unrealistic and only occur in the lottery, not in sports betting. Even in sports betting, it would be a chance occurrence, happening only once in every 100 bets. A more realistic expectation would be to aim for increasing their bankroll.

The second category consists of individuals seeking guaranteed wins and fixed bets or matches. These individuals are frequently seen on platforms such as Twitter, Telegram, Discord, and others where sports betting is discussed. They are often the first to express their desire for guaranteed games and fixed matches/bets, believing they will surely win. Unfortunately, these individuals are easily scammed due to scammers taking advantage of their gullibility.

What other categories of unrealistic sports betting expectations have you encountered?

No matter what category that is, as long as it is associated with certainty, it would already be unrealistic. As we all know, gambling won't give anyone a hundred percent chance of winning. Having high hopes no matter what assurance they are having, would still be uncertain. Even with fixed matches; it is money we are talking about, things still has tendencies of ups and downs once irregularities with what was set, is broken. Perhaps an organization created a fixed match but a bigger group paid for results to again be flipped, now what? Due to these tendencies it would be much better to be cautious with the amount in order to prevent regrets.

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Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

The first category is composed of sports bettors with a $1000 bankroll who hope to make $100,000 by the end of the year. In what universe do they think this is possible? Such expectations are unrealistic and only occur in the lottery, not in sports betting. Even in sports betting, it would be a chance occurrence, happening only once in every 100 bets. A more realistic expectation would be to aim for increasing their bankroll.

The second category consists of individuals seeking guaranteed wins and fixed bets or matches. These individuals are frequently seen on platforms such as Twitter, Telegram, Discord, and others where sports betting is discussed. They are often the first to express their desire for guaranteed games and fixed matches/bets, believing they will surely win. Unfortunately, these individuals are easily scammed due to scammers taking advantage of their gullibility.

What other categories of unrealistic sports betting expectations have you encountered?

This is why there are odds to know if how much return we can get once we win. Unless if that bettor is a newbie and didn't learn about these basic things. There is a chance that they can expect an unrealistic profit. In your first example/category, I think a $1k capital is big and then a 1 year time frame is long, therefore I think a $100k profit is pretty possible but OFC as long as the bettor had a good knowledge on the specific sport that he choose.

You mentioned the lottery there but this one has unrealistic odds than in sports betting. On your second example/category, you are right for the most part but there are some who really have a connection from the inside.

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Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

What other categories of unrealistic sports betting expectations have you encountered?

I have encountered both categories of this unrealistic sports bettors that you have listed. The first category of artistic sports bet is that hope to increase your bankroll ridiculously are you a very inexperienced and new to gambling. If they are old and have been gambling for a while they know that it is not an easy task especially when you are sports-betting to increase your bankroll up to 10x. The second category is comprised of lazy people who do not care about making their own analysis but depending on other people's bets to make money, they continue to loose and will only be lucky to win once in a while, but that is not the method any gambler should learn. Another unrealistic set I have met is those that have started a project and are depending on constantly winning from betting to finance the project to completion, gambling is not a source of income.

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Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

We encounter different categories of sports bettors every day, both online and offline. However, some of them express unrealistic expectations regarding their potential winnings.

The first category is composed of sports bettors with a $1000 bankroll who hope to make $100,000 by the end of the year. In what universe do they think this is possible? Such expectations are unrealistic and only occur in the lottery, not in sports betting. Even in sports betting, it would be a chance occurrence, happening only once in every 100 bets. A more realistic expectation would be to aim for increasing their bankroll.

The second category consists of individuals seeking guaranteed wins and fixed bets or matches. These individuals are frequently seen on platforms such as Twitter, Telegram, Discord, and others where sports betting is discussed. They are often the first to express their desire for guaranteed games and fixed matches/bets, believing they will surely win. Unfortunately, these individuals are easily scammed due to scammers taking advantage of their gullibility.

What other categories of unrealistic sports betting expectations have you encountered?

Basically, those 2 that you have mentioned is not unrealistic, they are real and possible, however it is just hard to attain.
$1k to $100k in a year is very much possible if you consistently betting every single day and of course constantly winning without draining your $1k capital. $1k to $100k in a single day of sports betting - that is impossible. I guess that's what you mean since you mentioned about lottery. In lottery you could get more than $100k is one day if you hit the jackpot.
Regarding the second one, yes there are fixed match set up only for the syndicates involving massive amount of money and of course it is not available for the general public - so those who are seeking for fixed match betting are plainly stupid and they are 100% going to be scammed.
Again, those you have mentioned is not "UNREALISTIC", they are real and possible, but it's really HARD to attain.

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I honestly laugh a lot when scammers write all outcomes as comments, hide them and after matches end only share accurate one. Many people are taking this bait. I don't think our government can solve this issue still.
I see that in sports betting, many people wanna try 2.5 plus or minus goals a lot. They feel its easier to bet on that compared to guessing accurate result. I think chances are not that different. And odds are much lower. I prefer guessing accurate result.

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I agree with most of the posts above about the first category, i've seen bettors hit some long parlays or go on a massive winning streak while going all in on every single bet. It's not common for most gamblers to achieve these very high winning amounts, but it's doable.

Quote from: Fortify on June 18, 2023, 12:29:01 PM

In general there are so many "tipsters" out there who claim to have super high win ratios, but in reality you'd be lucky if they made 51% of winning bets in their portfolio. There is a lot of fakery out there, where people claim to predict certain outcomes but if you dig a bit deeper, you find out that they actually "predicted" results after the outcomes were realized, or simply that they hype up their wins while ignoring their loss ratio. Many of these people will be asking for money in order to access their tips, but that is where they really source their income. If they were genuinely profitable then they would have no need to create such a side venture as selling profitable ideas, they'd just use them.

They are common in different platforms and can easily trick the new bettors into following them when the truth is they're losing. The shitty part is when they put a price tag on their picks, and that's where their downfall starts since most bettors discourage others from paying for picks.

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Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

We encounter different categories of sports bettors every day, both online and offline. However, some of them express unrealistic expectations regarding their potential winnings.

The first category is composed of sports bettors with a $1000 bankroll who hope to make $100,000 by the end of the year. In what universe do they think this is possible? Such expectations are unrealistic and only occur in the lottery, not in sports betting. Even in sports betting, it would be a chance occurrence, happening only once in every 100 bets. A more realistic expectation would be to aim for increasing their bankroll.

The second category consists of individuals seeking guaranteed wins and fixed bets or matches. These individuals are frequently seen on platforms such as Twitter, Telegram, Discord, and others where sports betting is discussed. They are often the first to express their desire for guaranteed games and fixed matches/bets, believing they will surely win. Unfortunately, these individuals are easily scammed due to scammers taking advantage of their gullibility.

What other categories of unrealistic sports betting expectations have you encountered?

These wild and unrealistic expectations make gambling so popular. Same with altcoin trading. People invest in alts because they think they can replicate the success of bitcoin if they become an early investor of some shitcoin. Sometimes it happens but sometimes people also win the lottery and their $100 coupon win them the big prize. Every once in a while these miracles happen. People are addicted to this hope. As M. Freeman said: "Hope is a dangerous thing. It may make you poor." As Andy D. said: "Hope is a beautiful thing. It may make you rich." See? Both of these dudes are right actually. The question is, which one are you gonna follow?

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Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

We encounter different categories of sports bettors every day, both online and offline. However, some of them express unrealistic expectations regarding their potential winnings.

The first category is composed of sports bettors with a $1000 bankroll who hope to make $100,000 by the end of the year. In what universe do they think this is possible? Such expectations are unrealistic and only occur in the lottery, not in sports betting. Even in sports betting, it would be a chance occurrence, happening only once in every 100 bets. A more realistic expectation would be to aim for increasing their bankroll.

The second category consists of individuals seeking guaranteed wins and fixed bets or matches. These individuals are frequently seen on platforms such as Twitter, Telegram, Discord, and others where sports betting is discussed. They are often the first to express their desire for guaranteed games and fixed matches/bets, believing they will surely win. Unfortunately, these individuals are easily scammed due to scammers taking advantage of their gullibility.

What other categories of unrealistic sports betting expectations have you encountered?

I beg to differ, although this is not really representative of the general sportsbettor population, I've seen people in here (exactly this forum) post ludicrous bets that yield them massive wins. One of which is @NAPK1NS_RAE (I'm not sure if I got his username correctly, but I digress) who got famous in this forum while still being a newbie by bagging massive wins, only to fumble them later lmao. I've seen him win a bet for 90k in one go, and then lose all of it on a soccer match right after. He almost bagged 500k last time if I'm not mistaken but he fumbled it again. If this was a regular guy we're talking about I'd seriously stop and advise him to not make any more belligerent bets cause that's going to put a dent on his life and his future but it seems like this guy could bag wins if he wanted to and he's doing this for fun, albeit he still regrets losing lots of money especially after a massive win is fumbled. Anyhow, I'd still agree with you on everything, just wanted to talk about the guy who broke the system (for me) and the guy that's exempted from all this "don't make ludicrous bets" shenanigans.

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Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

We encounter different categories of sports bettors every day, both online and offline. However, some of them express unrealistic expectations regarding their potential winnings.

The first category is composed of sports bettors with a $1000 bankroll who hope to make $100,000 by the end of the year. In what universe do they think this is possible? Such expectations are unrealistic and only occur in the lottery, not in sports betting. Even in sports betting, it would be a chance occurrence, happening only once in every 100 bets. A more realistic expectation would be to aim for increasing their bankroll.

The second category consists of individuals seeking guaranteed wins and fixed bets or matches. These individuals are frequently seen on platforms such as Twitter, Telegram, Discord, and others where sports betting is discussed. They are often the first to express their desire for guaranteed games and fixed matches/bets, believing they will surely win. Unfortunately, these individuals are easily scammed due to scammers taking advantage of their gullibility.

What other categories of unrealistic sports betting expectations have you encountered?

In general there are so many "tipsters" out there who claim to have super high win ratios, but in reality you'd be lucky if they made 51% of winning bets in their portfolio. There is a lot of fakery out there, where people claim to predict certain outcomes but if you dig a bit deeper, you find out that they actually "predicted" results after the outcomes were realized, or simply that they hype up their wins while ignoring their loss ratio. Many of these people will be asking for money in order to access their tips, but that is where they really source their income. If they were genuinely profitable then they would have no need to create such a side venture as selling profitable ideas, they'd just use them.

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Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

The first category is composed of sports bettors with a $1000 bankroll who hope to make $100,000 by the end of the year. In what universe do they think this is possible? Such expectations are unrealistic and only occur in the lottery, not in sports betting. Even in sports betting, it would be a chance occurrence, happening only once in every 100 bets. A more realistic expectation would be to aim for increasing their bankroll.

The second category consists of individuals seeking guaranteed wins and fixed bets or matches. These individuals are frequently seen on platforms such as Twitter, Telegram, Discord, and others where sports betting is discussed. They are often the first to express their desire for guaranteed games and fixed matches/bets, believing they will surely win. Unfortunately, these individuals are easily scammed due to scammers taking advantage of their gullibility.

What other categories of unrealistic sports betting expectations have you encountered?

Actually, the first one is possible but only if someone has god-level accuracy where they won't get a single loss and they keep placing bets with everything they manage to win from their last match, but that is very unlikely to happen because one can basically keep winning all their bets until they reach $100,000 from just $1,000, so though it is possible but the probabilities of it happening are very low.

Those who go after guaranteed wins are mostly going to lose because there is basically no guaranteed win in sports betting as anything can happen and sometimes, even the favorite team loses against the team that is always losing and isn't performing so well at that particular period.

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There are gamblers, who think that they will strike a big hit and win the jackpot.
There are other gamblers, who think that they could be making money consistently and use sports betting as a replacement of their 9-to-5 job. I think that both types of gamblers are delusional, more of less. Perhaps it's kinda possible for a really good sports bettor to have consistent winnings and to make good money out of sports betting. The problem is that I've never seen any successful sports bettors, who are doing this for a living. Maybe such sports bettors do exist, but they keep their lifestyle a secret.
The tipsters, who are selling sports betting services(including fixed games) are 99% scammers. There's no doubt about that.
Some people have unrealistic perception about their luck, while other people have unrealistic perception about their skills.
There are people, who are dumb enough to think that they could outsmart the bookies or trick the system.

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Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

We encounter different categories of sports bettors every day, both online and offline. However, some of them express unrealistic expectations regarding their potential winnings.

The first category is composed of sports bettors with a $1000 bankroll who hope to make $100,000 by the end of the year. In what universe do they think this is possible? Such expectations are unrealistic and only occur in the lottery, not in sports betting. Even in sports betting, it would be a chance occurrence, happening only once in every 100 bets. A more realistic expectation would be to aim for increasing their bankroll.

The second category consists of individuals seeking guaranteed wins and fixed bets or matches. These individuals are frequently seen on platforms such as Twitter, Telegram, Discord, and others where sports betting is discussed. They are often the first to express their desire for guaranteed games and fixed matches/bets, believing they will surely win. Unfortunately, these individuals are easily scammed due to scammers taking advantage of their gullibility.

What other categories of unrealistic sports betting expectations have you encountered?

Another category of people i would want to add are those who expect to win in gambling, I don't think people should expect but rather hope to win because expectations leads to great disappointment and as a gambler, we shouldn't build our hopes on expectations rather learn to use the amount of money we are willing to lose for gambling.
I was also one of those persons who always wanted some form of guaranty on each of my bets and I can really relate with how much gullible this set of persons can be because most of this scammers have to build on the gullibility of this set of gamblers and rip them off of their money.

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The first category can be achieved but not easy because there are many things to prepare. But it is more achievable in sports betting because if one knows one or a few sports well, they can get a nice win. But it might be more difficult to achieve if it's in a luck-based gambling game.

The second category is that there is no guarantee you can win from gambling, but you will probably encounter losses more often than wins. And again, sportsbooks have more chances of winning because they can analyze to find the team with the best chance of losing.

Maybe this third category wants to make gambling a steady income. It's unrealistic because they have to calculate how much money they will have, when they can win, etc. It would be even more difficult and even if they were an expert in sports betting, they would not be able to win all the time as the match progressed, there could be changes which would result in them losing the bet.

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Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

We encounter different categories of sports bettors every day, both online and offline. However, some of them express unrealistic expectations regarding their potential winnings.

The first category is composed of sports bettors with a $1000 bankroll who hope to make $100,000 by the end of the year. In what universe do they think this is possible? Such expectations are unrealistic and only occur in the lottery, not in sports betting. Even in sports betting, it would be a chance occurrence, happening only once in every 100 bets. A more realistic expectation would be to aim for increasing their bankroll.

This is very realistic and some gamblers has been able to do this before. Maybe if you said from $1000 to $1million then that's when some doubt would had come in because that's looking very impossible although not saying it isn't achievable, some gamblers has luck on their side.
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Using compounding any gambler that's very knowledgeable in sport betting and also has luck on his side can turn $1000 to $100,000. If he could double his wins every weekend, it won't take him more than six month to be able to reach $100,000 considering some lose in some weekends.

I don't think there's any unrealistic amount of profits to be made in betting, it might be unrealistic to you when you limit your mind to what's possible. Gambling is all about been lucky and we have those that their luck has given them life changing money.

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Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

The first category is composed of sports bettors with a $1000 bankroll who hope to make $100,000 by the end of the year. In what universe do they think this is possible? Such expectations are unrealistic and only occur in the lottery, not in sports betting. Even in sports betting, it would be a chance occurrence, happening only once in every 100 bets. A more realistic expectation would be to aim for increasing their bankroll.

Eh, I'd give them the benefit of the doubt. It is a year after all, it's not like they're trying to go and reach the goal in one bet. While it may seem close to impossible but hey, there's probably a really small chance of them being able to do that. Especially if you take big but calculated risks. Granted that one win is all it takes to ruin it if they're trying to maximize profits but as I said, it's over the span of a year. Can take calculated risks every now and then so no need to rush on their side.

Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

What other categories of unrealistic sports betting expectations have you encountered?

In the first category, but rather than in a year, it's more like in a single bet. People expecting to bet like idk, $10 and suddenly win what, $1000 or $10000? Man should've went for lotteries instead. It's pretty dumb but hey, I've known a few people who have that kind of mindset in the past.

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Turning $1,000 to $100,000 is technically possible, it's only 100x of your bankroll while lottery give you a chance to spend $1 to win $100,000+ which is completely based on luck. If you carefully place your bet on sportsbook and not looking to earn a quick profit by gambling on lucky based games, you can accumulate each winning little by little to multiply your bankroll for hundred times.

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Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

We encounter different categories of sports bettors every day, both online and offline. However, some of them express unrealistic expectations regarding their potential winnings.

The first category is composed of sports bettors with a $1000 bankroll who hope to make $100,000 by the end of the year. In what universe do they think this is possible? Such expectations are unrealistic and only occur in the lottery, not in sports betting. Even in sports betting, it would be a chance occurrence, happening only once in every 100 bets. A more realistic expectation would be to aim for increasing their bankroll.

The second category consists of individuals seeking guaranteed wins and fixed bets or matches. These individuals are frequently seen on platforms such as Twitter, Telegram, Discord, and others where sports betting is discussed. They are often the first to express their desire for guaranteed games and fixed matches/bets, believing they will surely win. Unfortunately, these individuals are easily scammed due to scammers taking advantage of their gullibility.

What other categories of unrealistic sports betting expectations have you encountered?

$1000 to $100k in a year is entirely possible with a little bit of luck. You would have to be betting really aggressively, but if you can get on a streak while going all in on every bet you could make 100k in a month honestly. Is it likely? No, but it could definitely be done.

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on June 17, 2023, 06:38:28 PM

About on having that $1000 to $100k is indeed possible and this would really be attained via making some win on multiple parlays and this is where things turns out to be unrealistic. We know that parlays arent something

that would really be so simple for us to make those sure hits and making those bet amounts to be on multiple folds but im not saying that this one is impossible.If a certain individual does have that kind of target then just let them be because its their money to be used and not something that you could really be able to do on what they would really be tending to do so. This is why it would really be that much better
on letting them on what they would gonna do with their 1k. For those people who do believe on fixed matches and trying out to believe to those who do make out some false or scammy claims then
for sure they would soon realized on the time that they had been scammed.

It's possible if you win several big parlays in a row, but you need to have a very big luck to be able to achieve that. Because usually parlays have a smaller RTP than single bets with the same odds usually. Because the margin of each leg is multiplied by the margin of the other legs, so at the end you can get a parlay with a big margin.

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Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

We encounter different categories of sports bettors every day, both online and offline. However, some of them express unrealistic expectations regarding their potential winnings.

The first category is composed of sports bettors with a $1000 bankroll who hope to make $100,000 by the end of the year. In what universe do they think this is possible? Such expectations are unrealistic and only occur in the lottery, not in sports betting. Even in sports betting, it would be a chance occurrence, happening only once in every 100 bets. A more realistic expectation would be to aim for increasing their bankroll.

As far as I know, there is someone who almost get this kind of scenario but he got busted when he bet all in.

Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

What other categories of unrealistic sports betting expectations have you encountered?

Knowing someone from the inside that conducts game fixing is another unrealistic sports betting expectation that I have encountered. There are lots of them on Telegram but obviously, most of them are scams. Another thing is the promise of a guaranteed win. That is impossible unless the people have access to the system.

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honestly I don't even know if these people who bet with 1000$ and want 100k can be said to be in some category because what I've seen are people who bet a lot of money because they also want to win a lot of money, hardly the people who want to have 100k are betting 1000 $ that for them is a very small amount to bet because the guys who want to win a lot of money don't make multibet bets so they have to make single bets which forces them to have to put a lot of money in each single bet, last year when I was run soccer world cup games

out of curiosity I went to see who bet the most in the games and I was shocked by what I was seeing, the guys bet 10,000$ in each game and there were people who made bets with much higher values than these, they were the whales, so I honestly doubt it very much that someone can turn $1000 into $100,000 with sports betting, although I've seen people say they've done this, these people have not shown proof, and I very much doubt that professional bettors would have that kind of goal. As for the guys looking for guaranteed wins, well I imagine it's a matter of time for them to realize that they're looking for something impossible in the long run.

only few people can turn such amount into 100k, and more then likely, those are professional sportsbettors where they live and breath that particular sports. they already know the techniques how to grow their money thru time. but aside from their knowledge of the sports, it would take time and dedication to grow such amount.
a lot of gamblers have their high expectations but they should remind themselves that this is why it is called gambling, because you have no assurance of winning.

Not even a professional would guarantee a $1000 bet to $100k. this was also related to one's luck, though doing some analysis wouldn't be that easy. About more realistic expectations indeed as the OP said i.e. increasing their bankroll. Few people can afford $100k amount in sports betting. many want a big win right now, even though that doesn't look realistic and is just a wish that won't come true, in the end they will waste bets with little wins.

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Quote from: Slow death on June 17, 2023, 06:27:47 PM

honestly I don't even know if these people who bet with 1000$ and want 100k can be said to be in some category because what I've seen are people who bet a lot of money because they also want to win a lot of money, hardly the people who want to have 100k are betting 1000 $ that for them is a very small amount to bet because the guys who want to win a lot of money don't make multibet bets so they have to make single bets which forces them to have to put a lot of money in each single bet, last year when I was run soccer world cup games

out of curiosity I went to see who bet the most in the games and I was shocked by what I was seeing, the guys bet 10,000$ in each game and there were people who made bets with much higher values than these, they were the whales, so I honestly doubt it very much that someone can turn $1000 into $100,000 with sports betting, although I've seen people say they've done this, these people have not shown proof, and I very much doubt that professional bettors would have that kind of goal. As for the guys looking for guaranteed wins, well I imagine it's a matter of time for them to realize that they're looking for something impossible in the long run.

only few people can turn such amount into 100k, and more then likely, those are professional sportsbettors where they live and breath that particular sports. they already know the techniques how to grow their money thru time. but aside from their knowledge of the sports, it would take time and dedication to grow such amount.
a lot of gamblers have their high expectations but they should remind themselves that this is why it is called gambling, because you have no assurance of winning.

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Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

We encounter different categories of sports bettors every day, both online and offline. However, some of them express unrealistic expectations regarding their potential winnings.

The first category is composed of sports bettors with a $1000 bankroll who hope to make $100,000 by the end of the year. In what universe do they think this is possible? Such expectations are unrealistic and only occur in the lottery, not in sports betting. Even in sports betting, it would be a chance occurrence, happening only once in every 100 bets. A more realistic expectation would be to aim for increasing their bankroll.

The second category consists of individuals seeking guaranteed wins and fixed bets or matches. These individuals are frequently seen on platforms such as Twitter, Telegram, Discord, and others where sports betting is discussed. They are often the first to express their desire for guaranteed games and fixed matches/bets, believing they will surely win. Unfortunately, these individuals are easily scammed due to scammers taking advantage of their gullibility.

What other categories of unrealistic sports betting expectations have you encountered?

About on having that $1000 to $100k is indeed possible and this would really be attained via making some win on multiple parlays and this is where things turns out to be unrealistic. We know that parlays arent something

that would really be so simple for us to make those sure hits and making those bet amounts to be on multiple folds but im not saying that this one is impossible.If a certain individual does have that kind of target then just let them be because its their money to be used and not something that you could really be able to do on what they would really be tending to do so. This is why it would really be that much better
on letting them on what they would gonna do with their 1k. For those people who do believe on fixed matches and trying out to believe to those who do make out some false or scammy claims then
for sure they would soon realized on the time that they had been scammed.

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honestly I don't even know if these people who bet with 1000$ and want 100k can be said to be in some category because what I've seen are people who bet a lot of money because they also want to win a lot of money, hardly the people who want to have 100k are betting 1000 $ that for them is a very small amount to bet because the guys who want to win a lot of money don't make multibet bets so they have to make single bets which forces them to have to put a lot of money in each single bet, last year when I was run soccer world cup games

out of curiosity I went to see who bet the most in the games and I was shocked by what I was seeing, the guys bet 10,000$ in each game and there were people who made bets with much higher values than these, they were the whales, so I honestly doubt it very much that someone can turn $1000 into $100,000 with sports betting, although I've seen people say they've done this, these people have not shown proof, and I very much doubt that professional bettors would have that kind of goal. As for the guys looking for guaranteed wins, well I imagine it's a matter of time for them to realize that they're looking for something impossible in the long run.

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Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

We encounter different categories of sports bettors every day, both online and offline. However, some of them express unrealistic expectations regarding their potential winnings.

The first category is composed of sports bettors with a $1000 bankroll who hope to make $100,000 by the end of the year. In what universe do they think this is possible? Such expectations are unrealistic and only occur in the lottery, not in sports betting. Even in sports betting, it would be a chance occurrence, happening only once in every 100 bets. A more realistic expectation would be to aim for increasing their bankroll.

Yes, but there are gamblers who aim for big win, and it's possible in sports betting like if they go on a big parlay and who knows, they could have made that money from small bankroll.

Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

The second category consists of individuals seeking guaranteed wins and fixed bets or matches. These individuals are frequently seen on platforms such as Twitter, Telegram, Discord, and others where sports betting is discussed. They are often the first to express their desire for guaranteed games and fixed matches/bets, believing they will surely win. Unfortunately, these individuals are easily scammed due to scammers taking advantage of their gullibility.

What other categories of unrealistic sports betting expectations have you encountered?

This is where the lines should be separated, I mean we've heard fixed matches, but unless you are really into that team then it's hard to bet on this kind of games. And that's why it is called inside information, because only a few individuals could have known that they are going to fixed the match, hence, they are the only once going to benefit from it. Unless someone blow it off and tell others about it.

I think unrealistic sports betting expectations is subjective if we talk about gambling though.

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Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

The first category is composed of sports bettors with a $1000 bankroll who hope to make $100,000 by the end of the year. In what universe do they think this is possible? Such expectations are unrealistic and only occur in the lottery, not in sports betting. Even in sports betting, it would be a chance occurrence, happening only once in every 100 bets. A more realistic expectation would be to aim for increasing their bankroll.

Turning 1000$ to 100,000$ is not impossible because it just x100 from base bankroll. A forum user managed to do that already by playing only sports betting. You can refer to the quoted post below. His post is not bullshit because you can see that he really have a huge bankroll and involved in extreme sport betting if you browse his post history.

Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on June 09, 2023, 02:34:18 AM

I’ve turned $1,000 into $100,000
I’ve turned $6,000 into $80,000
I’ve turned $11,000 into $550,000
and recently I’ve turned $4,000 into $90,000

This possible but it’s very hard if you think about it.

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Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

The second category consists of individuals seeking guaranteed wins and fixed bets or matches. These individuals are frequently seen on platforms such as Twitter, Telegram, Discord, and others where sports betting is discussed. They are often the first to express their desire for guaranteed games and fixed matches/bets, believing they will surely win. Unfortunately, these individuals are easily scammed due to scammers taking advantage of their gullibility.

Have been added to so many WhatsApp groups which they claim they provide free betting signals, but I will have to pay first before I will be added to premium group. The only thing that surprises me most is that, if most of those people are truly having the signal, they won’t be going around and be disturbing people to pay so that they will be added to group. We all have to be careful, their is nothing like fix matches, most of them are just trying to make use of opportunity just to scam, and am sure newbies and addicted gamblers are the once that will easily fall for that kind of scam. Seriously if their is anything like fix matches am sure every gambler will have been rich by now, most of those people providing signals are even poor, they are looking for people to scam so that they will make money.

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Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

We encounter different categories of sports bettors every day, both online and offline. However, some of them express unrealistic expectations regarding their potential winnings.

The first category is composed of sports bettors with a $1000 bankroll who hope to make $100,000 by the end of the year. In what universe do they think this is possible? Such expectations are unrealistic and only occur in the lottery, not in sports betting. Even in sports betting, it would be a chance occurrence, happening only once in every 100 bets. A more realistic expectation would be to aim for increasing their bankroll.

The second category consists of individuals seeking guaranteed wins and fixed bets or matches. These individuals are frequently seen on platforms such as Twitter, Telegram, Discord, and others where sports betting is discussed. They are often the first to express their desire for guaranteed games and fixed matches/bets, believing they will surely win. Unfortunately, these individuals are easily scammed due to scammers taking advantage of their gullibility.

Well, all of those scenarios are really being asked and we can't blame those that are asking that if it's possible for them just to make sure that they'll make money through gambling. What they did know is it's hard to make money through gambling.

Quote from: alastantiger on June 17, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

What other categories of unrealistic sports betting expectations have you encountered?

Not unreal and it's not categorize to what you've mentioned but a surprising bet of a million with an odd of 1.01 and then that guy lost that bet. That was posted here as well, it just got stuck on my mind when I've read that story.

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We encounter different categories of sports bettors every day, both online and offline. However, some of them express unrealistic expectations regarding their potential winnings.

The first category is composed of sports bettors with a $1000 bankroll who hope to make $100,000 by the end of the year. In what universe do they think this is possible? Such expectations are unrealistic and only occur in the lottery, not in sports betting. Even in sports betting, it would be a chance occurrence, happening only once in every 100 bets. A more realistic expectation would be to aim for increasing their bankroll.

The second category consists of individuals seeking guaranteed wins and fixed bets or matches. These individuals are frequently seen on platforms such as Twitter, Telegram, Discord, and others where sports betting is discussed. They are often the first to express their desire for guaranteed games and fixed matches/bets, believing they will surely win. Unfortunately, these individuals are easily scammed due to scammers taking advantage of their gullibility.

What other categories of unrealistic sports betting expectations have you encountered?

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