Topic: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core? (Read 632 times)

They don't even need that.

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Why would they be keeping a token that's declared as a scam? they are out of it as long as they have received the payment for advertising that scam.

Funny enough, those celebs could have been sold on how BTC went from cents to 10k and how their produce does BTC better. So, all they need is just some fiat to pair with their tokens because it's gonna be worth the moon in a few months compared to BTC's years. Bam!

Centra bought MyWeather instagram ads. Some celebrity with no crypto knowledge with a bunch of ads in his social media suddenly advertising a shady ICO should be a very big red flag to anyone!

my friend said Centra failed to get attention from their ico
yet i see another ico get a footballer along with them
ronaldinho now,
i get feelings it will same with centra

If you're tracking this scam, please be ready to save all the information about the project on your hard drive: site screenshots, yt videos, forum posts... They will delete all evidence!

What DJ Khalid as well?

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Well this is how marketing works, they just paid those popular people and advertise their project even without knowledge on what it is.

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I guess they received millions of $$$ for advertising this scam.

Floyd and DJ Khalid

Why are those people haven't arrested yet?

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Don't worry about the bounty campaign, worry about those people that invested their hard earned money to that scam.

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If I'm correct is this the one that has been advertised by Floyd right?

No ICO? Is that the selling point? I'm not buying it. For a team that's currently entangled in 3 legal battles with funds from the centra 'project' frozen up, how are they supposed to fund phantom whatever?

I hope that they'll never start a new project they scammed a lot of people and also me in its bounty campaign, fortunately I haven't invested in it even if I wasted some of my time

Yeah, it's such a discouragement when you spend time and effort promoting a project and then end up being scammed. Unfortunately, we cannot just easily get rid of this kind of scams because scammers also are being creative and they are one step ahead of us so a thread like this would at least help those potential investors who might be thinking in investing in this projects. Thanks to the members of this forum who have done their research to reveal such scheme.

No ICO? Is that the selling point? I'm not buying it. For a team that's currently entangled in 3 legal battles with funds from the centra 'project' frozen up, how are they supposed to fund phantom whatever?

There is NO ICO! How can they be trying to scam someone? they aren’t asking for money!

I hope that they'll never start a new project they scammed a lot of people and also me in its bounty campaign, fortunately I haven't invested in it even if I wasted some of my time

Hi Centra Shill. Go ask Sam to give you a rebuttal for these questions that they will need to have one hell of an answer to in order to avoid going to jail and being fined to the tune of millions of dollars. If you can give passable answers it will go a long way with the court of public opinion.

1. What is Centra’s/Phantom’s response to their phony CEO Michael Edwards and why did Sam Sharma acknowledge his existence on two separate occasions in videos currently available on YouTube? Why should I trust anything this guy is involved in after that?

2. What is Centra’s/Phantom’s response to supposed partnerships with Visa, Mastercard and Bancorp being advertised during their ICO as well as videos available on YouTube by Sharma, when evidence shows that not only did those partnerships/agreements not exist, the company was being hit with cease and desists from all 3 companies yet Centra continued to advertise partnerships?

3. What is Centra’s/Phantom’s response to advertising an agreement for the card to operate in 38 states when court documents show that they didn’t have the license to operate in even 1 state and also the cost to get such licenses would have cost the company funds they never had access to pre ICO? There is also YouTube video of Sharma touting this ability.

4. What is Centra’s/Phantom’s response to coin price manipulation by Ray Trapani as shown by text message in court documents? Given this, what is to say that all Phantom represents is another opportunity to manipulate price to help liquidate Sam/Ray/Robert’s CTR?

Let’s see the “truth prevail”

There is NO ICO! How can they be trying to scam someone? they aren’t asking for money!

Centra can't return the money to investors as the SEC confiscated it and is now in control of the funds. That is publicly available in court documents. Secondly, speaking of scammers, lets take a look at the trust level of the person who first started this, Pali. It says a lot about what he has done to people and projects in the past. So you may want to consider where you get your information from.  Be careful as he works for another other project, Bitmillex. You definitely don't want to be involved with any projects who are supported by known scammers.

- SpaceMan
2016-05-01
0.40399960

I helped him play on bustabit by paying his bits in return for him to pay me through his bank the amount I paid but never got any payments. He's a total lying cunt and all lies and fake scum.
TripScripts
2016-11-04
0.00000000

Do not trust. Is a user with a huge amount of alts used for the sole purposes of evading and restarting his name to loan from others and scam others.

https://maidbot.finlaydag33k.nl/index.php?username=lsd
Yelpdood
2017-11-08
0.01200000
Reference
DO NOT TRUST THIS GUY. He's a scammer. Scammed me out of 1.25 LTC.
RaidBossOath
2017-12-23
0.00000000

scammer, stole 3500 usd from the made2burst project.
Nerobasta
2018-05-24
0.00000000

Possible alt of Cazkys user who's been scamming. See the merit amount received (50) on a shit post. Its just too easy. Idiot.
baba0000000000
2018-06-20
0.00000000

Abuses feedback system and gave me a fake feedback that is not valid.

Pali! You are a loser and scammer!

good project! just found out  8)checking white paper now

PS my other account got hacked (

Centra can't return the money to investors as the SEC confiscated it and is now in control of the funds. That is publicly available in court documents. Secondly, speaking of scammers, lets take a look at the trust level of the person who first started this, Pali. It says a lot about what he has done to people and projects in the past. So you may want to consider where you get your information from.  Be careful as he works for another other project, Bitmillex. You definitely don't want to be involved with any projects who are supported by known scammers.

- SpaceMan
2016-05-01
0.40399960

I helped him play on bustabit by paying his bits in return for him to pay me through his bank the amount I paid but never got any payments. He's a total lying cunt and all lies and fake scum.
TripScripts
2016-11-04
0.00000000

Do not trust. Is a user with a huge amount of alts used for the sole purposes of evading and restarting his name to loan from others and scam others.

https://maidbot.finlaydag33k.nl/index.php?username=lsd
Yelpdood
2017-11-08
0.01200000
Reference
DO NOT TRUST THIS GUY. He's a scammer. Scammed me out of 1.25 LTC.
RaidBossOath
2017-12-23
0.00000000

scammer, stole 3500 usd from the made2burst project.
Nerobasta
2018-05-24
0.00000000

Possible alt of Cazkys user who's been scamming. See the merit amount received (50) on a shit post. Its just too easy. Idiot.
baba0000000000
2018-06-20
0.00000000

Abuses feedback system and gave me a fake feedback that is not valid.

There is NO ICO! How can they be trying to scam someone? they aren’t asking for money!

I hope no one gets stuck and loses his assets in this sad ico. but I'm confused, there are still people who care and support ico like this, who obviously have a troubled founder.

Lol Im so happy this video surfaced, I have been looking for it for almost a year as I never got to see it before it was yanked. Everyone should take the time to watch the founder of Centra/Phantomcore get completely owned in this interview as well as incriminate himself multiple times by referring to a non existent partnership with Bancorp, as well as non existing licensing agreements with Visa and Mastercard, ability to operate in 36/28/30 states (and say that there are 52 states in the USA LOL) and the topper fake CEO "Michael Edwards" aka "Mike" and his convenient extra investment he laid down just in time for Sharma to talk himself out of a corner.  This video was down for a year because I am guessing Centra bribed this guy to pull it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg58ONwfj24

Good innovation but still the same concept like CENTRA which is a card and now they added up other things to make it more appealing but only fool people would fall twice for these obvious scams.

Phantom Core
Launch a full node right from your desktop

Phantom Smart Card
Decentralized NFC Payment Card

Phantom Merchant Unit
Start accepting cryptocurrencies at your business today.

Centra already has a bad reputation for all crypto investors, even though they really want to make a particular project, it will be very difficult to build trust that was once damaged. I myself will choose to stay away from their project.

It's an obvious scam and you can see the evidence through SEC report about centra was being alleged as a scam project. The CEO of centra has already arrested by US security and phantom just another scam project of centra scammer developers. I heard these scammers have been banning so many people from their telegram group.

It's an obvious scam and you can see the evidence through SEC report about centra was being alleged as a scam project. The CEO of centra has already arrested by US security and phantom just another scam project of centra scammer developers. I heard these scammers have been banning so many people from their telegram group.

Whether it's a scam or not, better to just stay away from this one. The risk is too high, not worth it

I better look for another, because there are many other projects for investment, because as we all know, Centra is a scam project. and all those involved in it will be difficult to launch new projects because of their previous history. so is better to stay away

The saddest part about this is some loyal followers that never dumped their Centra scamtokens are going to support this to try to salvage their original investment. Pitiful all the way around.

Thay may be true because scammers never stop, as there is still little chance for them before regulation they come again.

Thay may be true because scammers never stop, as there is still little chance for them before regulation they come again.

Hey everyone,

just sharing/warning people to stay clear of phantom.org as it will only make you lose money and time. I'd hate to see another group of people get tricked and over time get screwed hard.

Website: https://alpha.phantom.org/
subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Phantomcore/
Telegram: https://t.me/PhantomCore
Twitter: https://twitter.com/PhantomDotOrg


Background history:

Read:
https://www.crowdfundinsider.com/2018/05/133775-report-centra-tech-founders-plead-not-guilty-in-alleged-fraud-ico/
https://bitcoinist.com/centra-tech-indicted-60-mill-ico-fraud/


So why is this a scam?

Technically it isn't just yet. However you do the math. If founders of an ico that has been built on false statements and deception ran by people who had no prior blockchain exp and were basically just trying stuff out and not really knowing what they were doing was legal or better yet knew they were breaking rules but thought it was worth it... I wouldn't trust these guys to be able to make anything durable.

Can I read their side of the events?

Yea prior to launching this new venture of them they created this medium blog post sharing their side of the events: Dear Centra Community — Let the Truth be known

Clearly it has been well formulated and from reading it you almost feel sorry for them. :p Words can be powerful tool.

So why you so certain?

The first ico I worked for was centra as a volunteer. I was not informed nor had I access to what the founders were up to or if what they shared of info was true or false. I was just "a guy" learning ico's and trying to do my job and gain exp. However I wasn't blind either. Without knowing for sure i did feel that the founders were a bit shady in their actions, communiction towards us mods and in how they conducted themselves in private in the mod room. I had no real proof to be fully convinced so I just did my job, quit and moved to the next ico project. Months later centra got hit with a SEC investigation and stuff went ballistic and I knew at that point all my suspicions were not wrong.

On top of that they are already lying to the people right now and deleting/censoring like they did on Centra.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Phantomcore/comments/951j9u/yes_phantom_is_launching_soon_ask_me_anything/


Sam Sharma and Robert Farkas and most likely other founding members are actually involved on this and are (the real owners). The idea that a spin off group (the devs are owners aka board members) not controlled or in the pocket off the centra founders is 10%. Just ridiculous.

You could twist this into them being victims in this story of the us government; but if they did their jobs and token sale right then they wouldn't have had any issue that put them, investors  and centra into ruin.

Phantom Transparency Report


The idea that they are really transparent and being honest to their supposed community is such a big joke. If they were really transparent they would not lie to their members or delete and censor like unprofessional mad people.