Topic: Certified Bitcoin Professional (Read 33936 times)

This is a very nice development just that I am concerned about one became a professional in just an hour! I will wish we started getting certified in cryptocurrencies fields in future and awarded certificates so we can used to get blockchain technology jobs. I wish also I should be able to work from home and determine my Own time but been paid in bitcoin or any of the popular cryptocurrencies.

huh
How could that certificate be applied in getting a job or doing business? There are tons of information about cryptocurrency industry all over the internet, already systematized and for free.

I passed the CBP test days ago and still haven't gotten mine.

Update: I received mine now. They just had to manually look at my CV.

Also, C4 does seem legit, as I saw it on one of Andreas's talk's slides.

I remember when we made the certification discussions on the forum, technically I would be CBP without even certifying since the questions were designed from a baseset of questions that the community analyzed and determined would do the trick.
Still it's there as a display item for some especially since no one knows Bitcoin so some sort of cover is needed to provide an air of legitimacy.


I think I did like the first 3 exams of the coursera a while back then was like meh and forgot until you all reminded me again about that ha-ha registered for it too and even saved the e-mails.

Welcome to the final week, with two contrasting lectures. Lecture 11 is on where Bitcoin could be going. The use of Bitcoin technology for decentralizing property, markets, and so on has been hailed as a recipe for economic and political disruption. We'll look at the technological underpinnings of these proposals and the potential impact on society.

In lecture 12, a bonus lecture, we’ll look at the history of cryptocurrencies. There were nearly a hundred cryptographic payment systems that came before Bitcoin, almost all of which failed. We’ll look at where the ideas in Bitcoin come from and what it takes for complex technical innovations to be successfully commercialized. This story will give you an appreciation of how remarkable it is that we finally have a real, working payment mechanism that’s native to the Internet.

Cheers
Arvind Narayanan

Still worth a look for those who want to see some classic discussions ^^.

https://www.coursera.org/learn/cryptocurrency?utm_medium=email&utm_source=other&utm_campaign=notifications.auto._Adru1I_EeWM9Q5cYicFGw

Yes, i see my error since, I checked more carefully the website and visited the blog, and a couple of others things, CBP Study Guide and the "Preparing for the Certified Bitcoin Professional exam". I see it differently since, and understand why and how some firms/services can find it usefull finally. To tell you the truth, if i was in charge of recruiting people, (for something where this certification can be used) I would ask this. I will save time surely

C4 has been around a pretty long time now but to be blunt, we aren't experts in marketing. We mostly just quietly do things we think are helpful. In addition to the professional certification, C4 also introduced the CryptoCurrency Security Standard, and have run a very well received training conference.

The certification may not have value to you, but we have many partners who are strong believers in it, including exchanges, professional services firms, dev shops, and banks. We especially find that organizations looking to hire their first couple blockchain focused employees find a lot of value in it, as they are less likely to know what questions to ask in an interview process. The cert gives them a measuring stick that helps ensure the people they are hiring are not completely smoke and mirrors.

From the side of the professional, we have had numerous people tell us that getting the certification helped prepare them for jobs in the space, and helped them prove that knowledge to perspective employers.

I mean, I get the teasing. Not everyone believes that certifications are beneficial. Not to mention there are a lot of scammers out there looking for a quick buck.
C4 is a non-profit, that's been around for over three years, which just aims to help mature the space and professional certifications is a means to doing that. We always make sure to work with incredible people across the industry to ensure what we offer is the absolute best that it can be.

 

Hmm.
Why does this thread remind me of Ralph saying:
"I graduated from bovine university!"

I think it is illegal to offer and produce such certifications which are not managed by any central authority. Governments should take steps to stop such things from happening and people losing money in useless things.

I am sorry to say but this kind of certification has no value, at least to me. What was the process to get it ? Following the course and complete a quizz ? In their about page i see Andreas M. Antonopoulos, Vitalik Buterin, and a few others listed as their Board of Directors. I am a little surprised to see them and I never heard about this consortium

I am also not sure why anyone should do this bitcoin certification. There is no certified body who is given such a certification and i also feel that these people are only making money by giving the certificates on collection of certification fee.

9kv, you're incorrect regarding it being an "Internet Certificate."
We mail out a physical certificate to those who earn certification. You can see an example of them on our twitter feed here: https://twitter.com/_CFour_/status/507592388424921090

Hi, How long it takes normally to receive one's certificate, I completed in January but have not received physical copy of certificate yet.

Any update on availability of CBX?

Thanks for the info.

seeking legit crypto certificate and found this thread. Will try CBX

Any news re CBX?

The good and bad points o fractional banking has nothing to do with the discussions about Bitcoin unless you think Bitcoin will replace everything.  The only important think is getting people to use Bitcoin and making claims that it will somehow affect fractional reserve banking is nonsense.

Says the person that thinks they are more creditable then Themoys..  

Furthermore all you have done is name call and name call.  You've never once commented on how fractional banking helps the average person.  How can you possibly deal with environmental issues when you lack the funds to do it.   Also assumptions.. Obama and Bush.. why the fuck do I care about America?  I never once mentioned Bitcoin should be the singular world currency again you are spinning BS using arguments that would get you kicked out of a debate.

You only attack the person not the point.

I pointed out in a different comment section that you are a wing nut.  Anyone who doesn't agree with your fantasy agenda supports the fed, the government, the leviathan, or some other nonsense.  You are like the people who go around blaming either Obama or the Bush legacy for every problem on Earth and somehow you twist every story or comment into some discussion of how Bitcoin will solve all the world's problems.  The specific discussion you are referencing was about actual Bitcoin use cases and was completely irrelevant to your fantasy about Bitcoin being the singular world currency.  My education is in physics and computer science, not economics.  However, I know enough to know that you don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about.

The point is that you are not reliable or credible to offer any type of certification.  Since you promote the sale of accounts no such certification, logo, account name, or anything about you or this web site can be trusted. 

One should becareful about using the same name on comment sections and forums if they are looking to promote such a thing in these forums.

You've still offered no reason as to why the Fractional banking system is good for the average person.

So what is the benefit of owning this "crypto certificate"  ? 
 

The forum's expert "certification" (recently also extended to /r/Bitcoin) predates "Certified Bitcoin Professional" by at least a year, I think. Here's where I officially announced it, though it existed for quite some time before that. People with a Bitcoin expert badge (or an equivalent core dev badge) are intimately familiar with the theory and inner workings of the Bitcoin network, and they are able to intelligently discuss any proposed change to the network. If they time-traveled to 2007, they would be able to reconstruct something feature-equal and at least a little better than Bitcoin from scratch.

Receiving this badge requires a recommendation from someone who already has the badge and approval by an admin. There is no fee or exam.

I see theymos is offering a certification now:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-expert-status-427201

I would suggest people seek legitimates certifications rather than buying one from theymos

http://www.digitalcurrencycouncil.com/ and https://cryptoconsortium.org/ offer legitimate certifications.

i am on that too. still trying to finish chapter 1.

I am also enrolled in the Princeton Course.  https://piazza.com/princeton/spring2015/btctech/home

Ok, now I'm a certified bitcoin pro also. I wrote it on a cocktail napkin and hung it on my office wall. I couldn't be prouder, I made summa cum laude!

If you want to LEARN all about bitcoin, your money is better spent getting something like Andreas Antonopoulos' book. But if you want to help build up some credibility FOR (not IN) the "crypto industry", then CBP isn't a bad place to start.

"Professional certifications" certainly have a value for HR departments and consultants. 99% of certs are a scam, because the people who certify you are the same people who make/sell the products you're certified on.  Which could also be true in this case, except that the Bitcoin tools and docs are free. So why buy a certification?

The people offering this certification might be too early - but it has to start somewhere.  The CPB level is like a secretary's (sorry, executive assistant's!) proof of basic competence like ability to type X wpm, understand filing systems and have good phone manners.  If a business has to or plans to handle bitcoins in the future, then their HR dept. will be happy to find a candidate that at least knows not to put the private keys unencrypted on a removable thumb drive.

But it's "too early" because no business is asking for it yet. It's bootstrapping - people need to learn about Bitcoins to want them, and who better to spread the word than a CBP?  When HR personnel start seeing "CBP" on resumes, they'll get used to and start to demand it - even if they don't know what is it. (Intelligence isn't a requirement for HR work afaik )
The CBP certification is superficial because the technology is brand new.  You don't really need to hire someone to set up a wallet hierarchy for your departments and be a "key master"/wallet admin because the wallets aren't that complicated yet. But someday they will be and then CBP will certainly be "worth" something.
On the other hand, how many current "altcoin devs" would fail to achieve even basic CBP level?  I'd love to know!

I think it might end up like the "Scrum Master" cert. About 100$ CAD (when I did it), a couple hours of reading, easy exam, but being able to apply to "Scrum master"/Agile jobs is worth the cost, even if Scrum is a scam.  Laugh at the people spending money all you want, there will *always* be cert. programs when $ is involved.  This one is probably not worth it for anyone savvy enough to be on bitcointalk, but it only takes one big HR department to start demanding "something" for a certification program to pop up. All the better if it's run by a non-profit, right?

C4/CBP does have some failings, in my opinion. First off there is no publicly visible count of how many people have achieved CBP, or even applied.  That doesn't encourage businesses/HR to demand it or vet its worth. There's no official training material or "trial" test.  And as far as I know they don't offer to link to a live logo/visible certificate you could put on linkedin or whatever.

So personally I'm going to use my money to buy another 0.5 BTC But as a professional software dev, I am definitely looking forward to the CBX cert!

There is a company that is planning to do that - "link up with a brick n mortar school."

In fact they are lining up a few schools to offer the physical cert for their courses.

PM me as we could JV on this. Who has the email for Michael Perklin?

Since this is one of our more visited discussions about the CBP, I wanted to add that we recently wrote an article to explain how and why we developed the Certified Bitcoin Professional.

http://blog.cryptoconsortium.org/how-we-defined-the-certified-bitcoin-professional/

I am happy to answer any further questions and comments people have.

You're right, absolutly right. However I remember the courses and certificates "PC operator" (or something like that).

You know when a certification is interesting for the masses?
when they cheat to get it
I cant see your Q&As 

Francis from the Bitcoin Embassy here.

I think the CBP is a great idea because a large number of Bitcoiners have spent countless hours self-educating themselves about Bitcoin and other cryptos. How can you possibly measure this and put it on a CV? Write in the hobbies section "I read a lot of information about Bitcoin?"

Some employers might want their employees to be "bitcoin-savy" without necessarily meaning that they want them to do Bitcoin-related work for them.

 Simple use-case: you're a student and want to apply as a waiter and on your CV you have a Bitcoin certificate. Restaurant owner accepts Bitcoin, in which case he doesn't have to bother wasting hours on how to accept BTC payments. He might even ask you to manage the wallet, etc. Other case: restaurant owner wants to accept Bitcoin but doesn't really understand / can't be bother to operate the wallet himself or set up the payment channel. He might want to hire you with the added benefit of having an employee being able to set up Bitcoin payments.

Other use-case: applying for a university degree where the faculty is looking for students who are pro-active in their learning or that value self-learning.

The point: if you're and employer planning on accepting Bitcoin payments directly for your business and having someone that can manage a Bitcoin wallet is a plus for you, the CBP might be a good way for you to get the most out of your recruiting process.

Knowing the people who are behind cryptoconsortium, I think this is a legit project to help bring more clarity to the Bitcoin HR Market. I'm pretty confident that they could have found a more profitable business model and that they are truly trying to help the bitcoin economy.  I read somewhere on this topic that they would donate some of the profits in order to truly remain a non-profit project - if that's true than I just don't see how this could possibly be a scam.

Can't wait to see what's in the CBX!

How do we know this is given value anywhere?

Thank you for taking the initiative to do this, seriously.

Well I'm sure if you keep at it you'll make it happen. I think the business certification idea is a good one. I had my reservations at first like Rassah did because we have seen so many money grabs using this forum you end up like a puppy hit with a rolled up newspaper too many times. You flinch and react before you think. This idea may be a little premature but I guess that won't hurt. Linking it to an established respected institution of higher learning is priceless and could help some kid get a job someday. Good luck.

Not specifically for certification but I actually have been making Bitcoin caontacts.  I contacted Rutgers and Stockton (near Atlantic City) but no real interest so far. 

Shamoon Siddiqui has been working with NJIT http://njitvector.com/2013/colloquium-bitcoins-with-shamoon-siddiqui/

Princeton has professor Felton doing some research https://freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/felten/bitcoin-research-in-princeton-cs/

Of course you're qualified for a certification. Everyone reading this forum for more than a year is probably qualified. I think it would be better for you to link up with a brick n mortar school to offer the certification online. That might add a little credence to it. You're in New Jersey right? Why not contact NJIT or UNNJ about offering an online class? You could even offer them the curriculum and teach them about Bitcoin. Make the pitch that other universities are now offering Bitcoin courses and they could lead the country in being the first to have a certification program using this new technology. Not to mention the fact that they will make a little money on the deal.

I didn't know you were the one that asked FinCEN for a ruling. Good job, that's great! That letter is sufficiently vague that I don't see any proof that miners can't still be prosecuted in the future. The part that worries me the most is: Isn't mining all about verifying transaction records of another (the bank ledger), printing new money to be distributed to another (unless you're solo mining -rofl) and receiving transaction fees as "the bank". The only thing saving us now is that fiat isn't involved and Bitcoin isn't considered money - yet.

Our email to those who signed up is going out this week Thanks for your patience and support.

BTW - I also obtained the FinCEN ruling concerning Bitcoin mining:

http://www.coindesk.com/fincen-bitcoin-miners-need-not-register-money-transmitters/
http://cointext.com/fincen-issues-bitcoin-friendly-ruling-for-miners/

I would think all these activities, along with passing the test, qualifies me for the lowest level certification.

I already explained I am retired and I already have a Master's in physics and Com Sci degrees from Rutgers, and a CISSP.  I am putting together web sites such as http://bitcoin.me so you can see for yourself.  I just launched the Bitcoin.me video and I am getting a pretty good reaction from those that see it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4UYpbRO8nw

When the C4 was first discussed, I signed up for an email update to be notified when the program was ready.
That was a few months ago and didn't hear anything until this thread.
Thanks to the OP, I am again on track to obtain my intended certification.

okay, so you guys got everything fucked up, no one is I'm not nor is the OP complaining about why certifications are required or not or important or not.  I'll be damn sure that my doctor or engineer that I am using for consulting has the proper qualifications and certifications.

My beef with this was the fact that a pointless thread was put up here to 'showcase' absolutely nothing.

To be honest help, we don't care (no fucks have been given) that you got the certifications; good job if that makes you feel better.  If you wrote this on a blog somewhere, that would have been different.  I came to read this because I thought you were going to discuss 'what should be considered necessary' to be considered a certified bitcoin professional - like maybe explaining a new user orientation process or how to engage with a potential business owner on the pros and cons of bitcoin implementation for their smb.  

Starting a pointless thread saying 'hey look guys, I got it!' just points out your ineffectiveness to use your credentials.  I would have to say that a majority of the members and above here could use a wallet, send bitcoin, receive bitcoin, and probably link their bank account to coinbase to convert to cash to cover company expenses.  

Next time pen a thread that provokes discussion amongst us, you probably could've gotten better feedback across the board by saying:  "just got my CBP credentials - open for business!"  With a body that says, "yea I know it might not mean much to anyone, but I'm glad I did it!  I think it will help me help others in the area of X, Y, and Z.  Am I missing something that could make things even more awesome?"

Since you've gotten your cpb, how many businesses have you consulted with?  How many have you successfully convinced to adopt and implement bitcoin?  

You come off as full of yourself is all I'm saying.  I'm pretty sure you've locked me into your ignore radar so its not like you can see this anyway without someone blockquoting me

No I don't, and that's not how certifications work.

The message we're sending is that people who are able to answer these questions in a restricted time-frame DO have the minimum knowledge required to use Bitcoin properly.

Like with any industry, certifications are not black/white between people who know/don't know about a subject. I come from the information security industry and I know many uncertified professionals who can run circles around certified professionals with their knowledge and experience. You don't need to have a certification to be a good security professional, and you don't need to have a CBP to be able to use Bitcoin.

That said, certificates do prove that you have a minimum level of knowledge. In the security industry, there are many jobs which require at least a CISA, CISM, or CISSP certification before even being considered for the position. Speaking with these HR personnel, they understood fully that there are many candidates out there who would fit the role perfectly despite not having one of these prerequisite certs, however it takes too many resources to risk that role on someone who wasn't certified. What if they seemed good in the interview but didn't actually know what was necessary? The HR paperwork, the month of pay, and the on-site training in the company's procedures would all go to waste while they resubmitted the job description and resumed the hunt for another candidate. By requiring the certificate they knew in advance that the candidates had the knowledge without spending a month to figure that out.

Finally, like with all certifications, they're not for everyone. Many people believe in certs, and many people think they're a waste of money and time.
C4 was built to establish these minimums in our industry in a not-for-profit way. If someone or their business doesn't have a need for measuring knowledge against these minimums, then they don't have to use it; C4 is here for those that do.

The questionnaire could be freely distributed to companies and the trainers/bosses hand out the tests to make sure employees aren't newbies.

The real reason most fortune 500 companies require certifications/diplomas from third parties is primarily for legal reasons so they don't get sued because in 1971 the U.S. Supreme Court issued a ruling (Griggs v. Duke Power) saying that if companies use aptitude testing to screen potential employees, they must be prepared to show that their tests are precisely calibrated to the needs of the job, otherwise, they will be guilty of employment discrimination.

Any employer understands that it is typically far more effective to test employees directly as they regularly cycle through recently certified and graduated idiots.

so , yes , this "certification" does server a role for large companies , but for all the wrong reasons.



Nope, not even that. There are plenty of certifiable idiots graduating from Ivy league institutions or getting "prestigious" certifications.
The proof is in the work, and I would better trust the capabilities of an individual who has real experience and contributions over any online test(that one can easily cheat with )

Aye they do need to build up a rep, give them time.  IMO it is a great time to try to start something like this.  If they can get a bunch of people to take it and a few companies they will gain traction.
Perhaps they will be able to team up with a college in the future.

Do you realize that certifications are only as valid as the stature of the certifying organization? If it were being managed by Columbia University I'm sure I'd feel differently. http://ce.columbia.edu/certificates/business-certificate

I know the people that signed off on the curriculum are big names in Bitcoin business and development but how do I know what they know? Maybe a verifiable CV from everyone involved should be posted on the website for review. I like to be frugal with my education dollar. If I can see a return value in it maybe I'll spend the money and then get a job at one of these new call centers I keep hearing about. lol

Indeed this could be used by companies as pointed out the more knowledge the better.

.. how do you guys not understand this concept...  

Have anyone of you worked in a company of more than 10 000 in a positon that isn't flipping burgers........?


If you are a bitcoin exchange you can have all of your employees get this so you know the receptionist, etc all understand the basics of bitcoin.  Now you can claim all of your employees have CBP.  Sure the techies won't care but the masses will.  When you are considering 3 different exchanges every step up on yours helps.

Just like at rockwell, they don't care if you are a P eng if you are going to wire you must take and pass a wiring course.  

Perhaps someone wants to open up a crypto help line!!  You can put on your website everyone is CBP certified and they have some CBX people as well.. Now if you are a noob in the crypto industry you would be tempted to use their services as you know they some proven knowledge.

Wait, do you think its a good idea to send the message that in order to use Bitcoin properly you have to be a certified professional?
If this is the case, Bitcoin is doomed to never get widely adopted.

Rename it to CBU then.

I think most of time wasters and drama queens will not bother to get any certification.  In fact several of the complainers in this thread were already on my ignore list.  Deepceleron is an exception as he is an expert and if he wants a certification I will pay for it.

nah more like people will pay $50 to pretend they are experts to then make useless comments, as they think they need a certificate to validate what they say, rather then saying what they have too say and people automatically recognize the comment itself hold merit.

i have employed more people not based on certification but on example of actual skill. as i said before the certificate validates the user is not a noob, but still does not confirm that the person is either mature or an expert.

If you die in Canada, do you die in real life too?

Boys.. girls... look at the price of Cisco cert.... this is hardly "over priced"...  When I worked at Rockwell they wanted me to take this stupid wiring course for $500...  Even though I was an electrical technologist..  Companies could easily use this, for example an exchange could require all employees to take this simply so the receptionst has an idea of what bitcoin is.

This is not something designed for Devs.



How many of you are actually in the working world and not High school/college..  There are a lot of stupid things you have to do to prove you are "certified"..  Furthermore almost all groups have annual fees.. 

Ha, epic-level trolling right there.

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Great points, deepceleron, and we agree with everything except for the name.
A Certified Bitcoin Professional (CBP) is someone who is able to use Bitcoin properly.
A Certified Bitcoin Expert (CBX) is someone who understands the Bitcoin protocol, block format, transaction format, and related technical details. C4 will definitely be testing this knowledge in its CBX exam which is slated to be released this winter. As with the CBP exam, we will make sure the question database has been adequately peer-reviewed by as many knowledgeable experts as possible to ensure they measure competency in each of the topics a Certified Bitcoin Expert should know.

If you feel you are able to assist with this process I'm happy to have you work with our other advisors as appropriate.

Rassah, I see you're "wondering about this."
C4 is a "free-market solution" to a human resource problem. We're not trying to be any more than that. We've built what we feel is an accurate measuring stick because of its peer review and are making it available for anyone to use for comparison. We're purposely doing this as a non-profit to emphasize our mission and not the money needed to accomplish it.

Thanks for your interest, all, and don't hesitate if you have any questions.
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I agree, I don't think bitcoin has been around long enough for there to be any kind of accredited test to give that shows they are a "bitcoin professional"

IMO this is just a test to show how gullible people are and how willing they are to give money for a stupid reason. The OP failed the test.

This is more in line with what I thought the Bitcoin Foundation was going to be about. Everyone know who contributes to the Bitcoin Core code because the developers use github. They would be an authority that could bestow acknowledgement of competency.

These people are Michael Perklin (Tigereye - https://www.linkedin.com/in/perklin), Vitalik Buterin, Anthony Di Iorio, and advisers like Peter Todd, Charles Hoskinson, and Piotr Piasecki, all of whom are very high level people in this space, whom I have met in person and would personally vouch for as highly respected and fairly trustworthy. Which makes me really wonder about this...

OP neglected to mention the $25 renewal fee (after two years, renewal extension is not specified.) I hope you didn't leave an active credit card with these people.

I can list a dozen websites that will mail you bottles of dehydrated water for less than $75 CAD, a much better deal. Shiny website != $75 CAD certification with a net benefit.


@Tigereye, assuming he/she is associated with the "cryptoconsortium"
What you should have done: Provide a list of businesses which either require a cryptocurrency certification for certain positions or explicitly state that having it on a resume is beneficial towards their hiring process.

How to make your "certification" less scam-like: Create a highly intensive online course without a fee, pay for it by offering physical classes with a fee and a certificate. Require a highly intensive, mandatory test and publish scores anonymously to companies--who can then send job offers to users in chosen score distributions. I doubt it would be difficult to get some venture capital on this sort of system.

Why you won't: This is a scam; and you seem to be located in Canada, which does not exist.


I suspect there's a growing demand for cryptocurrency certifications. Kudos to anyone willing to learn about cryptocurrencies. Double kudos to anyone willing to pay for a cryptocurrency certification. Shame on anyone for giving these people money.

Yeah, confirmed it's the legit group, with people like Vitalik and Anthony Di Iorio helping run this thing. Honestly I'm surprised and perplexed that they would do this. Seems rather... I don't know... Opportunistic? Maybe even a bit pointless, especially at this stage?

And do they provide study materials, or do you basically have to be a genuine expert and know all this stuff to take the test? (I'm somewhat tempted to try, since I know all the topics listed, but want to know what I would get for my $75, since I don't actually need this to get a bitcoin job)

Step 1:  pay money to someone else to make you 'feel legit' cause their site and program seem legit.
Step 2:  pass exam...immediately go to the first popular message board and post useless comment on useless 'certification'
Step 3:  ?? ?? ?? ??
Step 4:  sell the steps above to the next sucker in line
Step 5:  profit!!!



Looks like you just finished step 2, great job

It was $75 CAD total, $50 for the test and $25 for the certificate.  I saw the thing posted on reddit.  I saw Peter Todd as the top advisor.  I listen to him on let's Talk Bitcoin and I trust what he says so I figured it was OK.  they also said they have a registered non-profit and any extra funds will be donated.

Bitcoin is about a software program and protocol, essentially a tool, that people can use for all sorts of things and agendas.  Some people like to attach their personal agenda to it.

The Bitlicence problem is caused by all the Bitcoiners who complained when they lost money with things like Mt. gox, Inputs.io, pirateat40, etc.  

One use of the Certification program is to filter people whose authority consists of writing hundreds of useless comments on discussion boards.

Does the certification fee provide you with study materials too? I could see that being worth the $50, considering the list of topics covered, but if all you get is an online quiz and a fancy piece of paper...

Actually something like Bitcoin needs all types of professionals, not just coders.  I do have a degree in Com Sci but that was ages ago.  I could write code to talk to bitcoid but I would not attempt to code an exchange or any commits but that is a tiny subset of the things that are needed to bring Bitcoin from code to a system usable by millions of people.  

But, yes, the certification does not mean much just like many people act like a CISSP is a PhD.

It will be great to be pro if you can pay less whenyou buy bitcoins, is this posible? If not then the certification is useless even  if you can write bitcoin articles.

hasnt anyone realised that bitcoin is not about holding pieces of paper that have been rubber stamped by a central agency.

i bet 2 satoshi's that those thinking bitcoin certification is good are also the same people that see a bitlicence as a good thing.

both of which do not help real people with real lives, they are just a money grabbing exercise purely to look official, even if your sat on a sofa trading in your underpants, rubbing a ball of freshly pick snot into the arm of the chair.

all i can see happening is a bunch of bitcoin scammers waving round useless pieces of paper shouting out how they are bitlicenced and professionally certified to hold your money.. then 3 months later wave their plane ticket to the Caribbean at customers as they run off

I already explained but you are a drama queen so you are asking again.

I have used mine at a number of conventions run by companies Point is, I get my credit from knowledge and reputation, not an online quiz that seems to WAY overcharge (I can't see how it could cost $25 to print and ship a certificate. Even a very fancy one).




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Why did you take this certificate quiz, pay so much for it, and post about it on the forum? Are you partnering with these guys to try to earn money on what looks like a ripoff at least, and an "online university/certification" scam at worst?

The skills that would actually make someone an employable "Bitcoin Professional" would take more that a few questions. I'd want an answer of how you would make web sites and their wallets steal-proof. I'd need to see you code a web interface and a database along with the code to talk to Bitcoin showing you have the skills required to run your own exchange or ecommerce site. A list of commits you've made to Bitcoin itself, or the wallet software you wrote. Being able to "use" Bitcoin doesn't make one a professional any more than your 5000 followers is going to get you a job at Twitter.

See my new signature; also applies to Microsoft, Cisco, and Redhat.

You run a non-existent charity, plan to break into FBI computers while you work for the State of MD, and looking silly in videos.  You are certifiable so you should get the certificate that says so.

This could be used by companies as pointed out.

I like the idea of a CBP. Things like Bitcoin ATMs, Hardware wallets and other physical devices that are meant to be easy to use by the general public are still beyond the basic understanding of most people. There needs to be a technician/sales class operator to assist with these new devices.

I think you got ripped off. I paid only about $30CAD to order a sign from VistaPrint that has a big bitcoin logo and "Bitcoin Expert" text on it. Saved $45, and looks much better at conventions.

http://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x96E2A1BE81D47AA2

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Hi guys,

Michael Perklin here from C4.

franky1 is absolutely correct: the CBP exam does not mean you are an expert in Bitcoin. A CBP is someone who understands enough about the blockchain, addresses, keys and wallets to use Bitcoin successfully. They understand what a confirmation is, why they should wait a few for high-value transactions, and backing up/restoring keys to protect their funds. The CBP exam covers 32 separate topics arranged in 6 domains of knowledge.

It's intended to assert that someone meets the minimum requirements to be working with Bitcoin. For example, if you need to task one of your employees to create and manage your company's wallet, you'd want them to understand Bitcoin well enough to keep your coins safe.

9kv, you're incorrect regarding it being an "Internet Certificate."
We mail out a physical certificate to those who earn certification. You can see an example of them on our twitter feed here: https://twitter.com/_CFour_/status/507592388424921090

When it comes to being an expert in Bitcoin, that will be measured with the CBX exam which is due out this winter. That will be targeted at developers, security auditors, and anyone who needs to understand all of the advanced aspects of Bitcoin, such as building a transaction manually or working with the protocol at the byte level. That exam will be much more intensive (250 questions instead of 75) and be administered in a proctored (in-person) format.

There's more information available on the website, or you can ask questions here if you'd like.

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Yes, that is it.  I just launched http://Bitcoin.me and I had that video made.  I used the weusecoins video as a basis but I geared it towards how Bitcoin can be used.

I also got that ruling from FinCEN about mining:

http://www.coindesk.com/fincen-bitcoin-miners-need-not-register-money-transmitters/

I think I've talked to you before - on Millybitcoin.com?

If you're not seeking any jobs or anything with it - bravo. Thanks for learning about BTC

Yes, many certifications seem that way.  I have a CISSP as well and there are similar complaints about that.  I am retired so I don't really need any kind of certification.  I saw the list of advisors and I it looked legitimate so I went ahead with it.

Maybe you can volunteer for this project and get some good work experience on your resume, too.  It looks like they need what you have.  https://www.onlinevolunteering.org/en/vol/opportunity/opportunity_form.html?id=56461

don't worry, its just another sheeple tactic to make people think they are king of the world because they have a certificate.. then realise later that the world has people with degree's working in walmart.

a certificate doesnt mean your an expert of bitcoin exchanging, or an expert of selling bitcoins ideals to merchants. nor does it prove that they can make a coin from scratch without referring to a single line of code of a coin that's already been made.

all it proves is that your not a noob

How can you be a "professional"?

Seems like a fancy way of you giving them 50$, and them giving you an "Internet Certificate" that holds no real value to anyone else.

I completed the certification process at https://cryptoconsortium.org/. Took the 20 minute/75 question multiple choice test, paid $50 CAD test plus $25 CAD certificate application fee (BTC only) and uploaded a resume. Got my CBP certification in a few hours.