CGMiner output share sizes 8 * CompacF

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Quote from: mikeywith on September 05, 2024, 10:47:45 PM

Quote from: Nexus9090 on September 04, 2024, 04:40:55 AM

I've seen this pattern a couple of times now, no idea what causes it. The only correlation I can see is it occurd at similar times after a block had been found on the pool.

That can't be related, rest assured that this is all random, it's a mind game, you reboot your stick and then you see 1m diff share and think oh, it must be it, you do that again, it may happen, then the idea will stick, but the reality is; it's all just random.

I would let the pool set the difficulty to maintain a reasonable load on the network, I don't know how CK handles his pool, but it's possible that the set difficulty would be ignored (assuming it's allowed anyway) if it turns out to be too low and your stick is spamming the pool with dozen shares, so when you first connect, you may see a lot of accepted shares at low difficulty, then fewer larger once, but at the end of the day, if your hashrate is reporting reasonably on the poo -- everything else should not matter.

I hope you hit a block with that stick.

Thanks Mikeywith

Its strangely noticable when it occurs though, I check on my rigs a couple of times a day just to be sure nothing has fallen over initialy when I set-up there were USB problems but I solved that and its been stable pretty much ever since. With the exception of this low share value oddity that has occured a couple of times.

Having said that yesterday was a run on big numbers and it hit the best share value its ever posted since I started running this rig in April with 49.04B .

I guess that's random for you.

Good luck to you too.

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Quote from: Nexus9090 on September 04, 2024, 04:40:55 AM

I've seen this pattern a couple of times now, no idea what causes it. The only correlation I can see is it occurd at similar times after a block had been found on the pool.

That can't be related, rest assured that this is all random, it's a mind game, you reboot your stick and then you see 1m diff share and think oh, it must be it, you do that again, it may happen, then the idea will stick, but the reality is; it's all just random.

I would let the pool set the difficulty to maintain a reasonable load on the network, I don't know how CK handles his pool, but it's possible that the set difficulty would be ignored (assuming it's allowed anyway) if it turns out to be too low and your stick is spamming the pool with dozen shares, so when you first connect, you may see a lot of accepted shares at low difficulty, then fewer larger once, but at the end of the day, if your hashrate is reporting reasonably on the poo -- everything else should not matter.

I hope you hit a block with that stick.

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Yeah, this made no difference at all. Just increased network traffic and share submissions with the average submission being smaller.

I've put the diff settings back to how I had it, things seem to be returning to normal again with higher value shares being submitted.

I've seen this pattern a couple of times now, no idea what causes it. The only correlation I can see is it occurd at similar times after a block had been found on the pool.

But who knows at least the average share size is going back up, though its still a few trillion away from a block!

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Quote from: NotFuzzyWarm on September 03, 2024, 10:49:21 AM

Use a share rate of 442 for each stick and let the pool decide to set higher to what it likes. At your end the individual sticks work independently - not together as 1 larger miner.

Thanks, I'll see how this goes for a while.

So far its not made any noticable difference other than the average share size is now smaller and more frequent. The pool seems to have settled at a difficulty of 1877.

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Use a share rate of 442 for each stick and let the pool decide to set higher to what it likes. At your end the individual sticks work independently - not together as 1 larger miner.

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And here we are again down in another pit with nothing but really low return values on shares.

Its so odd and really noticable when it occurs.

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 [2024-09-03 15:06:39.836] Accepted 0d10f2b7 Diff 5.02K/3200 GSF 7
 [2024-09-03 15:06:41.633] Accepted 12415ad8 Diff 3.59K/3200 GSF 4
 [2024-09-03 15:06:47.898] Accepted 119c197e Diff 3.72K/3200 GSF 5
 [2024-09-03 15:06:48.698] Accepted 0af08cf1 Diff 5.99K/3200 GSF 0
 [2024-09-03 15:06:49.458] Accepted 1134c437 Diff 3.81K/3200 GSF 1
 [2024-09-03 15:06:50.627] Accepted 069f7078 Diff 9.89K/3200 GSF 4
 [2024-09-03 15:06:57.065] Accepted 120b64c1 Diff 3.63K/3200 GSF 5
 [2024-09-03 15:07:09.021] Accepted 0ed3fe82 Diff 4.42K/3200 GSF 2
 [2024-09-03 15:07:16.054] Accepted 141bc8ac Diff 3.26K/3200 GSF 6
 [2024-09-03 15:07:16.476] Accepted 06f762a0 Diff 9.41K/3200 GSF 0
 [2024-09-03 15:07:20.149] Accepted 0af66741 Diff 5.98K/3200 GSF 0
 [2024-09-03 15:07:20.771] Accepted 0b8714ac Diff 5.68K/3200 GSF 7
 [2024-09-03 15:07:25.831] Accepted 0bbd3f82 Diff 5.58K/3200 GSF 3
 [2024-09-03 15:07:26.054] Accepted 11a45716 Diff 3.71K/3200 GSF 4
 [2024-09-03 15:07:26.210] Accepted 0dec7da3 Diff 4.71K/3200 GSF 7
 [2024-09-03 15:07:48.777] Accepted 0778eaf7 Diff 8.77K/3200 GSF 6
 [2024-09-03 15:07:54.985] Accepted 0dd52f53 Diff 4.74K/3200 GSF 2
 [2024-09-03 15:08:09.287] Accepted 0a94f8bb Diff 6.19K/3200 GSF 2
 [2024-09-03 15:08:10.588] Accepted 0c2f262a Diff 5.38K/3200 GSF 4
 [2024-09-03 15:08:13.503] Accepted 1364dbc3 Diff 3.38K/3200 GSF 4
 [2024-09-03 15:08:25.722] Accepted 13b7414b Diff 3.32K/3200 GSF 3

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Quote from: BitMaxz on July 09, 2024, 05:55:00 PM

This means it's automatically adjusted while mining and gets the most suitable difficulty for your unit.

Yes, the pool diff adjusted to the settings I requested which was 3200, which is about ideal for the hash rate the rig is achieving. This occurs within a few seconds of connecting to the pool, so I dont think its related to that.

However, this was something new my rig has been running since April and always with a good number of shares >100K I'd say on average a share of >100K was being submitted every 8-10 shares.

It was only in the past two weeks where I've noticed that the number of shares >100K had dropped substantially averaging into the <50K with most only just over the 3.2K difficulty setting.

It was a noticable change, which is why I wondered if something had broken somewhere.

It seems to have evened out a little now and I'm seeing more shares >100K again but no where near as often as when I first started the rig running.

Additional, this is a current snapshot of the activity and its a lot closer to what I was seeing originally

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 [2024-07-10 12:22:38.088] Accepted 04946716 Diff 14.3K/3200 GSF 5
 [2024-07-10 12:22:40.538] Accepted 11ec4979 Diff 3.66K/3200 GSF 6
 [2024-07-10 12:22:42.106] Accepted 0f4bfc5e Diff 4.28K/3200 GSF 3
 [2024-07-10 12:22:44.034] Accepted 12826dc1 Diff 3.54K/3200 GSF 2
 [2024-07-10 12:22:45.622] Accepted fc4b9724 Diff 66.5K/3200 GSF 0
 [2024-07-10 12:22:49.426] Accepted 8c18948a Diff 120K/3200 GSF 1
 [2024-07-10 12:22:51.577] Accepted 0455e9fc Diff 15.1K/3200 GSF 3
 [2024-07-10 12:22:56.979] Accepted 1074d500 Diff 3.98K/3200 GSF 5
 [2024-07-10 12:22:59.641] Accepted 04cd4614 Diff 13.6K/3200 GSF 4
 [2024-07-10 12:23:05.468] Accepted 06eed350 Diff 9.45K/3200 GSF 6
 [2024-07-10 12:23:06.800] Accepted e42d46f0 Diff 73.5K/3200 GSF 1
 [2024-07-10 12:23:11.937] Accepted 04e679f4 Diff 13.4K/3200 GSF 1
 [2024-07-10 12:23:17.663] Accepted 1240e5eb Diff 3.59K/3200 GSF 4
 [2024-07-10 12:23:18.342] Accepted 037f1516 Diff 18.7K/3200 GSF 4
 [2024-07-10 12:23:21.861] Accepted 1122b9b1 Diff 3.82K/3200 GSF 4
 [2024-07-10 12:23:21.869] Accepted 0d8123ab Diff 4.85K/3200 GSF 1
 [2024-07-10 12:23:25.676] Accepted 828c5698 Diff 129K/3200 GSF 6

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Quote from: Nexus9090 on July 08, 2024, 08:14:35 AM

Thanks, I wasn't sure what was going on it was ticking along with >100k shares regularly. Then for about a week or more low shares between 3.2k - 50k

I just found it really odd, it felt like something had broken somwehere.

That's pretty normal if you are mining solo on CKpool have you read the faq on their page? Then read this below.

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The reason for this is your mining hashrate is too low to be detected by the pool due to a minimum diff of 10,000 set.
The pool will eventually pick up your shares and slowly adjust to suit your mining hardware.

This means it's automatically adjusted while mining and gets the most suitable difficulty for your unit.

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Quote from: paid2 on July 08, 2024, 07:22:39 AM

Everything looks absolutely normal.

Quote from: Nexus9090 on July 08, 2024, 06:56:54 AM

For about a week the shares that I was seeing being accepted were only just above the set difficulty 3200 so shares were typically between 3.2k - 50k

Prior to that I was seeing shares regularly posted 100K-1M

Shares are random, so this is not surprising

Thanks, I wasn't sure what was going on it was ticking along with >100k shares regularly. Then for about a week or more low shares between 3.2k - 50k

I just found it really odd, it felt like something had broken somwehere.

Anyway, thanks for confirming its all normal.

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Everything looks absolutely normal.

Quote from: Nexus9090 on July 08, 2024, 06:56:54 AM

For about a week the shares that I was seeing being accepted were only just above the set difficulty 3200 so shares were typically between 3.2k - 50k

Prior to that I was seeing shares regularly posted 100K-1M

Shares are random, so this is not surprising

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Just wondering what others are seeing on their CGMiner output. My rig is pointed at CKPool for reference.

For about a week the shares that I was seeing being accepted were only just above the set difficulty 3200 so shares were typically between 3.2k - 50k

Prior to that I was seeing shares regularly posted 100K-1M

Things have pretty much returned to normal now, but still a little on the low side i'm wondering what everyone else is seeing typically

My current accepted shares typically look like this:-

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 [2024-07-08 12:44:20.572] Accepted 02150540 Diff 31.5K/3200 GSF 0
 [2024-07-08 12:44:30.954] Accepted 136fb092 Diff 3.37K/3200 GSF 3
 [2024-07-08 12:44:33.104] Accepted 09519cb8 Diff 7.03K/3200 GSF 3
 [2024-07-08 12:44:38.373] Accepted 09906c03 Diff 6.85K/3200 GSF 1
 [2024-07-08 12:44:38.562] Accepted 058ffcd0 Diff 11.8K/3200 GSF 5
 [2024-07-08 12:44:40.012] Accepted 096ea5cf Diff 6.95K/3200 GSF 5
 [2024-07-08 12:44:49.244] Accepted 0fad5562 Diff 4.18K/3200 GSF 7
 [2024-07-08 12:44:50.367] Accepted 03b61672 Diff 17.7K/3200 GSF 6
 [2024-07-08 12:44:56.518] Accepted 0c6fbe1d Diff 5.27K/3200 GSF 1
 [2024-07-08 12:45:17.573] Accepted 0d48dca9 Diff 4.93K/3200 GSF 0
 [2024-07-08 12:45:26.195] Accepted 057447e7 Diff 3.08M/3200 GSF 0
 [2024-07-08 12:45:38.425] Accepted 08542d80 Diff 7.87K/3200 GSF 3
 [2024-07-08 12:45:39.051] Accepted 0cde8610 Diff 5.09K/3200 GSF 3
 [2024-07-08 12:45:48.040] Accepted 0212f8af Diff 31.6K/3200 GSF 7
 [2024-07-08 12:45:49.913] Accepted 0df00e8a Diff 4.7K/3200 GSF 1
 [2024-07-08 12:45:54.001] Accepted 046785d6 Diff 14.9K/3200 GSF 5
 [2024-07-08 12:45:59.328] Accepted 0822a67b Diff 8.06K/3200 GSF 4
 [2024-07-08 12:46:01.249] Accepted 0e3ee860 Diff 4.6K/3200 GSF 1
 [2024-07-08 12:46:02.906] Accepted 07cea53f Diff 8.39K/3200 GSF 5
 [2024-07-08 12:46:07.030] Accepted 3168a881 Diff 340K/3200 GSF 5
 [2024-07-08 12:46:11.536] Accepted 0e0a04f5 Diff 4.67K/3200 GSF 4

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