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Topic: Chainalysis now supports Dash and Zcash (Read 524 times)

legendary
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June 11, 2020, 09:23:18 AM
#19
They could've said the "so-called Privacy Coins" because the objective of the article is to prove that they indeed are privacy coins. They have not concluded yet on the opening statement.

Maybe the people don't trust the coin completely to be used on the dark web, checking that the user is almost zero. They have working privacy features for both Dash and ZCash but Dash has more use cases compared to ZCash.


The point of this article is that this two coins transactions can be traced. The "working" privacy features dont work!

Mixing transactions are very easy to spot and identify on the Dash blockchain. As they are still public and transparent, the exact same techniques that can be used to analyse CoinJoin transactions performed using Bitcoin can be used on Dash.


Zcash’s shielded pools can provide stronger privacy than mixing transactions but shielding is not bulletproof. Research at University College London showed that using simple heuristics based on shielded pool usage patterns reduces the anonymity. They showed that most Zcash users don’t use the privacy functionality at all. Of those who do interact with the shielded pools, the researchers showed that most do it in a straightforwardly identifiable way, such as withdrawing exactly the same amount of ZEC that they deposited very quickly afterwards.
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They could've said the "so-called Privacy Coins" because the objective of the article is to prove that they indeed are privacy coins. They have not concluded yet on the opening statement.

So for the conclusion, as the article states

The majority of these two coins’ usage is for non-privacy purposes. Research by the RAND corporation, on behalf of Zcash, revealed that of the cryptocurrency addresses mentioned on the dark web, less than 0.2% were for either Dash or ZCash.

Maybe the people don't trust the coin completely to be used on the dark web, checking that the user is almost zero. They have working privacy features for both Dash and ZCash but Dash has more use cases compared to ZCash.
legendary
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- Confirmation speed: It has become possible to safely accept DASH payments by obtaining only two confirmations, and the speed of transmission in seconds.
Confirmation speed is important in real life. It is a big plus point of top altcoins compare to bitcoin. People can raise warning about replay attacks on altcoin networks because it is cheaper to do so on lower hashrated networks. Till now, I have never seen replay attacks on top altcoins' networks.
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- Profit-making: Privacy coins mean more customers, and thus more profits, just as Dash/zcash is not a bad name compared to Monero.
DASH has very bigger communities than Monero and their communities in Latin American nations contributed to the DASH price growth recent months. However, it has not happened in a blink of eyes, DASH team and communities have spent years to develop those backbone resources for the growth of DASH.

Amazing that you retards keep trying to shill your shitcoins in a thread that proves they are shit.
legendary
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- Confirmation speed: It has become possible to safely accept DASH payments by obtaining only two confirmations, and the speed of transmission in seconds.
Confirmation speed is important in real life. It is a big plus point of top altcoins compare to bitcoin. People can raise warning about replay attacks on altcoin networks because it is cheaper to do so on lower hashrated networks. Till now, I have never seen replay attacks on top altcoins' networks.
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- Profit-making: Privacy coins mean more customers, and thus more profits, just as Dash/zcash is not a bad name compared to Monero.
DASH has very bigger communities than Monero and their communities in Latin American nations contributed to the DASH price growth recent months. However, it has not happened in a blink of eyes, DASH team and communities have spent years to develop those backbone resources for the growth of DASH.
legendary
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So all the shitcoin shills show up and try to push the same garbage tec chainanalysis is currently covering?

ZK-Snarks is a trusted setup and therefore is a SHITCOIN!

You retards are trying to push a TRUSTED setup for a privacy coin are you all Retarded?

Monero is the only real fungible trust less coin period even Monero clones don't have a large enough network to be viable alternatives.

Info about the "trusted" setup: https://www.zfnd.org/blog/conclusion-of-powers-of-tau/

tldr: there were 87 participants all over the world and as long as just 1 of them was honest the parameter generation is safe and secure.

I would argue it is orders of magnitudes more likely that a severe bug exists in zcash or monero than the whole powers of tau ceremony being broken.

This is bullshit but keep shilling a lie to the retards of the world.

I'm sure there are enough around for you to scam.

Your posting shows that you have no idea about the matter.
legendary
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So all the shitcoin shills show up and try to push the same garbage tec chainanalysis is currently covering?

ZK-Snarks is a trusted setup and therefore is a SHITCOIN!

You retards are trying to push a TRUSTED setup for a privacy coin are you all Retarded?

Monero is the only real fungible trust less coin period even Monero clones don't have a large enough network to be viable alternatives.

Info about the "trusted" setup: https://www.zfnd.org/blog/conclusion-of-powers-of-tau/

tldr: there were 87 participants all over the world and as long as just 1 of them was honest the parameter generation is safe and secure.

I would argue it is orders of magnitudes more likely that a severe bug exists in zcash or monero than the whole powers of tau ceremony being broken.

This is bullshit but keep shilling a lie to the retards of the world.

I'm sure there are enough around for you to scam.
legendary
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And their supporters were warned. Again, and again, and so on ...
But no, we don't understand... that all they care about is money, no matter what.
As long as everyone is getting the profit you will get the supporters and i really do not think that these supports would fall off unless and until there is a massive sell off in the market because the idea behind their pseudo privacy is going to be broke. The only thing i do not understand is how chainalysis is able to do that break their transaction Undecided.

Do you think that they will not upgrade to cover the tracks, lets see what they are going to do.
legendary
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So all the shitcoin shills show up and try to push the same garbage tec chainanalysis is currently covering?

ZK-Snarks is a trusted setup and therefore is a SHITCOIN!

You retards are trying to push a TRUSTED setup for a privacy coin are you all Retarded?

Monero is the only real fungible trust less coin period even Monero clones don't have a large enough network to be viable alternatives.

Info about the "trusted" setup: https://www.zfnd.org/blog/conclusion-of-powers-of-tau/

tldr: there were 87 participants all over the world and as long as just 1 of them was honest the parameter generation is safe and secure.

I would argue it is orders of magnitudes more likely that a severe bug exists in zcash or monero than the whole powers of tau ceremony being broken.
legendary
Activity: 3836
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
So all the shitcoin shills show up and try to push the same garbage tec chainanalysis is currently covering?

ZK-Snarks is a trusted setup and therefore is a SHITCOIN!

You retards are trying to push a TRUSTED setup for a privacy coin are you all Retarded?

Monero is the only real fungible trust less coin period even Monero clones don't have a large enough network to be viable alternatives.
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The only 2 real privacy Coins are Piratechain & Monero .
Optional Privacy is no privacy.
I agree.
Privacy should be by default, not as an additional option.
I liked this saying
Ucy
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June 10, 2020, 05:58:40 AM
#9
I guess both are not well decentralized or don't have strong privacy features or both?
I think if these privacy-based cryptocurrencies are well  decentralized, safe and good, they will have the moral right to challenge tracking companies for privacy/anonymity violations and even win the case in just courts or with just laws.
Now, they have to make sure "bad things" aren't using the network to cause evil in societies/world... and it should be done without violating the important principles of true Blockchain/decentralized system.
A good & truely decentralized crypto has the right to protect its members from such privacy violations... This is why it's important to be good and truely decentralized crypto.
legendary
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June 10, 2020, 05:07:34 AM
#8
The only 2 real privacy Coins are Piratechain & Monero .
Optional Privacy is no privacy.
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June 10, 2020, 04:39:50 AM
#7
Good time for people to look into Pirate Chain (ARRR) and actually educate themselves...
legendary
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June 08, 2020, 04:52:16 PM
#6
Regardless of the reasons mentioned, there are two reasons:

 - Confirmation speed: It has become possible to safely accept DASH payments by obtaining only two confirmations, and the speed of transmission in seconds.
 - Profit-making: Privacy coins mean more customers, and thus more profits, just as Dash/zcash is not a bad name compared to Monero.

The reason does not matter, and the platforms do not necessarily mention the true motives for this, but as long as there are profits, there is an increase in adoption.
legendary
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June 08, 2020, 04:16:51 PM
#5
That would be because those "so called privacy coins" are a joke. Smiley

And their supporters were warned. Again, and again, and so on ...
But no, we don't understand... that all they care about is money, no matter what.

I dont think they ever cared much if DASH or ZCash ledger is opaque or transparent.  As long as it will make them profit. Forgetting that if developers cheated them and sold them a "so called privacy coin" as a privacy coin, then they most likely cheated them at something else also.
legendary
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June 08, 2020, 01:42:48 PM
#4
That would be because those "so called privacy coins" are a joke. Smiley

And their supporters were warned. Again, and again, and so on ...
But no, we don't understand... that all they care about is money, no matter what.

W0rd, and like you stated the Dashtards were nothing but P&D monkeys. I think they drove all the true believers away when they liquidated all those masternodes and then Made the first last gasp Pump that has been tanking ever since.
legendary
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June 08, 2020, 12:55:27 PM
#3
That would be because those "so called privacy coins" are a joke. Smiley

And their supporters were warned. Again, and again, and so on ...
But no, we don't understand... that all they care about is money, no matter what.
legendary
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June 08, 2020, 12:49:25 PM
#2
That would be because those "so called privacy coins" are a joke. Smiley
legendary
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June 08, 2020, 11:36:27 AM
#1
It looks like it's not a joke.

You may be wondering how Chainalysis products could support privacy coins. Isn’t the whole purpose of privacy coins to make transactions impossible to trace?

That’s an oversimplification, in that it misunderstands both the privacy features coins like Dash and Zcash offer and how users actually utilize those features in everyday transactions.


It's interesting the way they are calling them

two of the most popular so-called “privacy coins”


I won't add anything since some could call me "mean", "misinformed" and so on. These coins' advertising worked well until now, but I see they may have quite a problem now...  Roll Eyes


For more info:
https://blog.chainalysis.com/reports/introducing-chainalysis-investigation-compliance-support-dash-zcash
https://twitter.com/chainalysis/status/1270004768220557313
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