Topic: Changes Discussion Behavior in Forum (Read 261 times)

I do not see a problem with changing the behavior of users unless they are forced to do something. Once you force someone to do a certain behavior that he does not like here, you will expect that the return from that work will decrease over time.
Campaigns do not force users and may not set minimum limits. Those that do set minimum limits, the campaign manager must verify the degree of activity of the member on that board. If it is a gambling campaign, then the campaign manager must search the account’s past to verify the quality of his posts in the gambling board.

Yeah honestly m8 I think it is still too early to tell. I don't think singlehandedly the banning of mixers has caused a huge lack of activity on the forum, just like you are saying its only diverted itself into new topics on the forum such as gambling. I think that you're definitely right that activity is shifting, and who knows maybe with time the activity will shift back but 6-7 days in is definitely super early to know for sure.

That is to be expected. The thing is that this has been raised quite a few times in the old board as well. The fact that banning mixers will force the whole forum to gravitate towards gambling discussion, since most of the signature campaigns in the forum right now are from gambling sites and they each oblige every user to post a certain amount of comments on gambling boards.

This could work two ways in my opinion, either it could make the whole forum better, since as we all know gambling boards is one of the least productive and contributing boards in this forum courtesy of all the braindead posts and comments left by some users just to meet their quota. The influx of users that are now going to post in the gambling boards could flip the table and allow the board to be more healthy, more intelligent, and be more inclusive.

The second outcome is gamblingtalk. Since every signature campaign is pretty much gambling-related nowadays, and each of them require you to make a post on the gambling boards, the whole energy of the forum will shift towards gambling and if left unchecked, this could literally ruin the whole forum as everyone would either post on the gambling discussion board to catch the eye of campaign managers who are hiring new participants, or of course, already participating signature campaign members posting exclusively in the gambling board.

I can see the forum gravitating towards the second option, and honestly the only solution I can find for this is to make it just as appealing to talk about other things than gambling. I don't know how the mods and campaign managers will be able to pull this off honestly, but it is definitely necessary.

I'm not sure that's the main purposes - but in my opinion, the gambling industry and businesses are just using bitcoin to make a lot of profit. Bitcoin was not created to meet the demands of the gambling and trading industries - both industries are simply taking advantage of bitcoin and the growing direction of its use cases.

OP - I honestly didn't pay much attention to it, but this is a real consequence of banning mixers on this forum. Posting activity may increase at any time in any section of this forum including gambling discussion boards and others - however, this is not due to a ban on mixers. So far I've rarely post the gambling discussion board ^{[at least in the last two months]} even though I really wanted to post something about Liverpool in one of the thread there - so I wasn't really aware of any changes there.

The “sudden drop” in discussions in the forum is not because of the mixer ban or lack of signature campaigns. Take a look at the calendar. Even bitcointalk members have normal lives. The Christmas and New Year’s holidays are over but many families are still taking a week or more to enjoy this time with their loved ones. I believe things will go back to normal in the coming weeks.

If bitcointalk posts weren't monitized, you would see many people who are passionate about discussing here. But since the signature campaign has become part of this forum, both people who are interested in the money and the people who are  posting passionately are somehow controlled by the money factor.
About post increase in the gambling section, I can say that the gambling section is the only section that isn't boring, especially if you know sports and gambling.

Many people in the forum can hear your voice as well, but the difference is that some who hear your voice are as helpless as you are. That's how the system was designed to be.

I don't believe the habit of posting is just to meet campaigns but the campaign is just an extra motivation the way I see it. Knowledge is the goal (be it impacting or learning), but the forum allows earning Bitcoin while learning and I believe a lot of people have made and are making use of the opportunity.
The fact that you noticed people don't post as they used to (even if I don't agree with that) people are still learning from the forum.


I'm a gambler and I visit the gambling board often, maybe not every day, but I visit and post every week, I can say that I see a lot of spam posts there, but I have a question, how do you differentiate a spam post from a post that's not spam but low by your standards?

I ask this because I see posts that are not very constructive and sometimes it may be because the person is not fluent in English or another logical reason I may not know about.
I know there are clear spam which is so obvious that they're spam posts but I still don't report tbh, except it's too extreme.

Also, the campaigns I've been with don't count posts that are not constructive enough or spam posts, so I believe campaigns should even make forum members make better posts, but sadly it's not so.
This makes me wonder, won't people rate a campaign even less if the campaign members just shit post and post spam posts?

Spam is the same as before, at least when it comes to Bitcoin discussion and Economics boards. Let's take the example of this topic, which is "only" 11 pages long and, with a few honorable exceptions, serves to fulfill the quota of gambling campaign participants. On the last three pages, there are over 20 posts by members who are in gambling campaigns, and page 11 is only at the beginning.

due to lack of "mixer" promoting in posts and sig penny grabbers posting randomly with mixer adverts in their avatar/footers we are seeing less spam posts which are void of meaningful discussion

many spam posts were just copy/pasting the same dribble as other posters or just complimenting each other just to get post counts

i have witnessed less posts of people just copy/pasting the same dribble or just complimenting OP's..

there has been less spam posting. and it seems those that used to penny grab in sig campaigns are now gambling last years sig earnings in other sections of the forum, hoping to stay afloat

It is not clear to me either how the OP came to the conclusion that the activity on these boards decreased in the first days of this year, because as you have shown, this is definitely not the case. It seems to me that the OP just got a subjective impression that the activity is less because he no longer sees all those signatures that advertised mixers.

Total number of posts in Bitcoin Discussion board (including child boards) in the first week of the year:

2022 => Total results: 1,683
2023 => Total results: 2,287
2024 => Total results: 2,088
source: https://ninjastic.space/

I'm not sure on what basis you conclude that the board "suddenly became quiet", but the numbers certainly don't show that. What am I missing?

Too early to judge and besides, campaign managers choose users based on their past activity. For example, before the ban, I advertised for a bitcoin mixer, but that did not stop me from posting in the Gambling boards. Recently, when I joined a gambling signature campaign, my posting patterns in different boards all together haven't changed.

Most of the CMs of casino signature campaigns will look at your post history to determine if you are a regular gambling board poster, better still if you use those casinos in order to be enrolled.

When I also look at this graph, the posting patterns in terms of total number of posts per day in the forum seem similar

I see things differently here my friend, the forum is still as active as before, perhaps the time of the day you took the glimpse was the inactive time of the forum since people often reduce in activity at the later time of the day.

Now again, I took my time to browse through the forum and reverify, but I see nothing so different. But really, when major campaigns have signed off, some people will not post again, while some will post so little to keep the account active. Nevertheless, the effect is still very negligible.

And yes, I think the campaign is helping the forum to be active, you wouldn't want to imagine how the forum would be without campaigns. Not even the highest-ranked guys can vouch for activeness anymore.

@digaran and @BabyBandit, It seems like you two have been quite affectionate lately, nice to see


Yes you're right. I'm not against gambling, sometimes I also play blackjack. Actually there was nothing wrong but I was quite surprised because the bitcoin discussion board which usually had lots of comments suddenly became quiet

Report any spam to the campaign manager, I have about 0.XX% posts in the gambling board, rarely visit it and I do not have any posts there, so I do not know the nature of the spam. Since most of the campaigns are for gambling and they have a minimum number of posts there, whenever you find a spam report it, many will be happy to remove the member and there are already many good members without paid signatures.

I currently have a quota to fill for my campaign, so I will be regular in "Gambling" section, but I do try to make time to read the other sections of the forum everyday and post in the threads what I find I have some knowledge in or have something to point out. Of course with more casinos running campaigns than exchanges and other services being out the question, the gambling section will get a skewed posting load.

There is nothing good or bad about it, bitcoin's two main purposes are gambling and trading.

 I saw a post asking if there are users who post here even without being in sig campaigns and I feel it related to what you're asking here. The truth is, you can't expect one who is in a sig campaign and who isn't to post the same way cause that zeal won't be there and since these campaigns act as a monitor to how you participate here, it's not really the same for the one who isn't because there's no post count to meet so there'd be laxity.
 Granted to the news of mixers ceasing operations in the forum greatly affected some users but I won't say it's because of that some users are kinda lax in posting. For me, the reason @Jawhead999 gave suffices.

You forget if many people are take a vacation during new year, you can't expect every users will put a same effort during weekday, weekend, new year, etc.

I don't see any change on both Bitcoin Discussion and Economics, many users keep spamming by creating multiple thread about mempool and ETF in Bitcoin Discussion, while in Economics there are many thread talk about bullshit money strategy/motivation.

It's normal for someone to post in dedicated board where the campaign required to, I don't think it's wrong except you're forcing yourself to post about gambling when you don't like it.

I am sorry that you live in a place of great restrictions.

Here is hoping things improve for you I have had hard times in my life years

ago. I grew up in a tough area.

Lol, you c*nt, what I'm trying to accomplish here is beyond your wildest imaginations. Giving satoshi the ultimate red button for the time when they try to take over Bitcoin, so that when he pushes it, the modern civilization would go dark, in other words, if there will be no Bitcoin, there shouldn't be any internet either.

My bitching is probably due to high levels of estrogen after dealing with so many c*nts around me lately, that's why I sound like a spoiled little girl sometimes. Lol
😘

Supreme leader, haha.. You know? If you don't like it MOVE. Stop act like a victim, nobody feel sorry for you here, now i understand why you act like you do. you take your depression out here instead of fight for a better life!
What you doing is called WEAKNESS.

Only you can create your own success. If you want it hard enough you can do it easy, but it will take time, hurt, be boring and your mind will tell you to stop time to time. but your body have power.
I was in a shitty place in life once, I did make a change I had to do everything myself and the changing was hard and boring and took time, but I did it.
Complaining here wont get you anywhere and the stork won't come and pick you up you must do the work yourself.
And why the fuck would you say Fuck you to your supreme-dickrider?
Live your life, focus on you, you only have 24hours per day. Spend them on more important things then act like a clown and feel so sorry for yourself on internet.
You start to get more and more pathetic mate, stop be soft, get strong and stay strong. It gonna suck, suck really hard. your mind will quit before your body. but if you want you can, but when you reach your goal. you will be the king in your mind. Or you can stay in your shit hole and live your miserable life rest of your life, up to you, but don't share your shit with others.

I am saying it with all respect, but I get so tired of all weak MF's here that only argue and complain all the time. Fucking go outside, exercise or do what you want that makes you happy instead of this useless shit.

BTW: I hope you bought some SolTradingBot as I recommend in PM. You would have an very good profit by now.  

Best regards.
/ BabyB.

Now I am out to the gym, enjoy your good life.  

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And this is terrible and awful and I am against this to 100%! I am all for freedom! Probably some Islamic-shit country? But "middle east" is as it is and I really feel for the women, men and kids that suffer because the shitty people in power think they can do whatever they want, they should be burned alive on the streets and the good power should be in charge. But I hope you did get my point.

I hope you right and trust me I will cheering for you, but I hope you do it and not just say you gonna do it. I am all for justice and freedom and it's sad that middle east is against it. and "c*nt"? Come on bro, you can better.  

Well, FYI, in my country a girl's scarf was a bit off her head and some hair was showing, she is dead and her name was "Mahsa Amini".

So no I'm not in whatnot land watching you tube.
And if I say "fu*k you to my president or supreme leader" I'd end up in prison, raped, and harrassed for the rest of my life.  Where is that a lie?

That's good, it short out those one who only is here for money and those ones that is here for Bitcoin, crypto & the forum.



Bro, leave Lala-Land. You don't know anything about this. Have you ever tried? Have you ever been in prison or are you talking from a YouTube video you have watched or you actually speak from your own experience?  
And being funny behind a monitor does not count.

There was a time I could find tech related discussions to participate and learn from people here, even though it was sometimes boring even back then. Now people are either in gambling boards or posting on other forums.

But the sad truth is, not many would engage if there is no money involved, the only idiot here keeping the fire alive without expecting money in return is me. You gotta fight for something in life, right?

This place is the same as the real world, for example, if I go after people in power/government, in my country, I'd end up in prison, harrassed for the rest of my life or end up dead. While in here the possibilities are the same, only difference is that many people around the world can hear my voice.

You can see the answer yourself. First, many people don't like posting again unless they are in a campaign, which is one of the reasons why you see some accounts that make up to five posts a day stay straight two days without a single post.
 
Since the mixers are no longer allowed, the areas that present the campaign now are the casinos, which is why most members are focused on the gambling board right now. If not to meet up post-quota, it's also to prepare their accounts in order for them to get accepted in a gambling campaign.

Since 2024 started, I have seen changes in discussion behavior in forum which have changed quite a lot compared to 2023. Yes, of course we all know that the most fundamental change is the banning of mixers and all their campaigns from forum.

Maybe I'm still too early to draw conclusions because we are only 6 days into 2024. However, I really feel this change is very drastic, where the bitcoin discussion boards and economic discussion boards which are usually busy suddenly don't have many comments and there is a shift to gambling board.

Are the habits of discussion behavior in this forum only based on the campaign? And all the discussion is just about meeting campaign quotas?