Topic: Changing Perception About Gambling (Read 678 times)

When it comes to our loved ones we are ready to sacrifice everything including our beliefs on this issue, and our belief about gambling, this is not the instance or the situation where one changes belief about his perception of gambling its not about the evil of gambling that is the issue but the role of the gambling in the society.

The taxes coming from gambling that are allocated for the health sector to benefit the poorest of the poor in our country are reason enough to change one's perception and even support it.

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We should be responsible so that gambling doesn't get a bad reputation. The problem arises when someone gets addicted to gambling and commits a crime; people then tend to generalize that it's because of gambling, which leaves a negative impression on the activity. Educating or helping people understand the risks of gambling is essential to minimize gambling addiction. When people don't see the real chances of winning, they might come up with foolish ideas about trying to beat the house. It's important to tell them that gambling is only for fun and that winning is mostly about luck. This way, they won't think about trying to beat the house, which is nearly impossible.

I do not see anything wrong with gambling either. The only problem is that a lot of gamblers are not gambling right, that is why many believe gambling is bad. The gambling abuse is much, even I as a gambler would frown at the extent some gamblers would go just to gamble.  Gambling problems doesn't affect the gambler alone, in many cases, the loved ones, families and friends have been dragged into suffering the pain they knew nothing about. Revenue generated from gambling activities may be useful but, I  still will not fault those who choose not to get involved in gambling due to some obvious reasons we all know about. We as  gamblers keep giving non-gamblers reasons to find faults in gambling.

I don't try to change people's perception for gambling from negative to positive because it's really non of my business to try and get into people's heads. Me playing gambling games in my free time and managing to keep it under control is completely on me. And as I understand it makes sense that maybe not everyone could manage a gambling habit well.

So really it all boils down to personal experiences. If gambling establishments can do things to keep people happy with their operation they're more than welcome to. For example many casinos that have opened in U.S. indian reservation lands pay their dues to the Indian communities and therefore the native American families residing there not only tolerate their existence but also welcome their coming.

For myself when I've had people say gambling is rigged I've tried to tell them that there's a way to prove the fairness of results, but if they don't want to listen why bother. Sometimes gambling isn't very social and over the years that's something I've gotten to accept. Not everyone has to see it in a positive light for you to be able to enjoy it.

On the other hand, I think there are several factors that make you not have a negative perception of gambling, most likely one of them is because you have not been involved in gambling in the sense of not knowing about various information that gambling has a very bad impact, or maybe because you don't really care. with this negative possibility. Basically, someone should know about the pros and cons of gambling first before they get involved directly, because the worry is that they will get involved in the wrong way and with the wrong belief or confidence. I don't mean to make anyone have a bad stigma against gambling, but at least you already know about the positive and negative sides of this activity so that you can take it into consideration and so that you avoid various actions that you shouldn't take.

Apart from all that, regarding the allocation of gambling taxes, yes, I don't really pay attention to this either, I only know that when a country legalizes gambling then usually there will be a tax that must be paid, but I don't think or find out about what the money is for. the tax. And regarding people who are so against gambling, I think there is one reason that is quite reasonable, namely because they are former addicts, in the sense that they have experienced various significant downturns that pressure other people to believe that gambling is a very bad activity.

We all have our reasons for seeing things negatively or positively. But we should not put pressure on others with our opinions, since respect for freedom of choice should be paramount. I have never condemned gambling, but to be honest, I have never thought about the benefit of taxes to poor people. However, when people see, I think they mistakenly see, a way out of their troubles by gambling, I think this is not entirely true. Anyone who wants to play makes their own decisions when losing or, conversely, winning. If games bring people some satisfaction, why not? The main thing is to have a sense of proportion in everything; otherwise, any addiction can turn out very sad for a person.

Before I started gambling, I didn’t have any negative perceptions towards gambling, I just gambled freely, and I never taught that the gambling tax could be used for important things like that because I am from a place where the government doesn’t really care about the citizens, so taxes paid by the citizens are not properly make use of.
 
Apart from some gamblers being addicted to gambling after they start gambling, which is bad for our society, I don’t really know why some people are just against gambling, because I don’t see anything bad in gambling.

I agree with that, in addition to the foundation that survives is also actually for players who really play a role as players they will not be able to get income in the same time. Apart from that, I think the casino is only based on only a certain person, I doubt that there is a casino that is indeed the property of the government, but maybe in other countries there is because in my country it seems that there is no more casino or gambling prohibited in my country.

The case that happened a lot recently in my country some staff who advertised gambling were captured by the authorities and became hot news, there was also reportedly this related to the government but not about the casino it belongs to the government but the funds or budget in the maso will be taken by the government and after that he did not know the steps he would take, briefly saw that the victim from addiction would get help from the government whether or not I did not know clearly. What do you think if that is true? Will the government help those who have suffered great losses because gambling can get assistance from the government? I had thought that the money the government took from the casino would be used as assistance for those who were victims of gambling addiction, but there was no certainty clear until now.

Anyone can change their perspective about gambling but in this case it's because he experience the usage of the gambling tax. I see different people who just started gambling and most of them are hooked into it once they start. It's tough letting it go once you started it and I ask one of them where did they get the idea. I am surprised that it came from experience too, and he said he was helped by some dude who made some money gambling and shared some of it to him.
I told him it doesn't mean you have to gamble too but he said he want to do the same thing that was done to him if ever he wins. I just nodded my head thinking something good is crawling in the shadows of gambling not just through taxations.

Few casinos have this own way to help unfortunate people on their medical bills. They have an agency who will handle these things and if you are qualified, they will give you financial assistance. It also happened to my relative as they're seeking for financial help to the different agencies and among of these are the charity office of the casino.

Anyway, what made me think Gambling is not really bad is after I realized that it's not because of gambling on why people are becoming addicted. It is the gambler's fault, because if you have self control then it can influenced you negatively. Therefore, your fate when you engage yourself in gambling will depend on what type of gambler you are.

Mannn, that's actually a fair response from the government to support the masses - especially people with disabilities and ailments. It's always a life threatening situation to reachout to the hospital in any case of emergency, by yourself or with your love ones and you're being ordered to buy the hospital utility card before anything... We've lost several people to cardiac arrest on occasions like this.
For me, It took me almost half of my life to understand a thing in gambling... Until somehow, I was employed to work in a local casino house, then I realized why most things kept repeating itself. It's stupid to hate people for what they do, but not who they are - irrespective of what the case may be.

In this situation, it was not all the revenue generated from gambling that was needed, but the foundation that was able to be sustained as a result of the funds gotten from gambling taxes and contributions that mattered.
 
The point here is that there were enough funds in health welfare that aided in saving someone's life, and I believe that's enough. Where other revenues went is the business of the government, and whatever they decide to do with it, I believe in the end they should be able to give an account.

What made me change my perception about gambling was when I noticed gambling isn't as bad as so many individuals ar saying gambling is. Gambling as its bad side but it also has a good side and if you gamble with the mindset that you can lose, you'll not be fooling yourself in believing that you're going to win when you can see that you're already losing everything that you put into gambling. It is the way we gamble that determine if we're good to win or lose.

Money won from gambling can be used to do good and help others in need therefore gambling isn't bad just because it makes those addicted to it irresponsible. If you gamble without the mindset that you must not lose, you wouldn't be chasing affer your losses and making it a must to win everything. My perception changed when money won from gambling helped me when I had nothing in my bank.

Yes, it could be that the victory that has been obtained by the gambler can arouse interest in the people around him, especially the victory he got in a large amount, this is very easy to tempt someone to enter the gambling environment. If there is someone who does not understand what gambling really is, then they will definitely want to follow in the footsteps of a gambler and when he has entered the world of gambling he only sees the winning side because the goal is that even though most of the casinos are frequent defeats and victory is very difficult to obtain.

Back when I was in grade school, I thought that gambling is a bad activity, it is done by irresponsible people and the result is always negative.  But as I grow and become aware of the actual events in the world, this kind of thinking changes.

I found out that Gambling is not evil in its own way, it does not commit evil or intend to ruin people's life.  Gambling is created for entertainment and it creates jobs for people while donating part of its income to charity.  Gambling just like any tool is neutral.  Whether it will negatively impact one person is dependent on how that person engages in gambling.  So blame should not be pointed to gambling but rather to the person who abuses the use of the platform. 

If one wanted to find fault for these gambling addicts, blame the person, not the industry.  it is their own action that leads them to become one.

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The person just realized how the gambling industry helps the citizens of a country through charities.  There are lots of non-gambling company and not a single one of them help him when he is in need of money for medical assistance.  It made the person realize how the gambling industry helps the poor.


One just need to have an understanding on how gambling industry works and don't just stereotype the belief of the religious group. When it comes to gambling addiction prevention, a simple self-moderation and responsible gambling are the key.

In gambling people always wants to be triggered by something like say the positive effects they have gotten from it, it could be a huge winning or somehow close relative won lottery this could make them develop interest to start gambling. Seeing him change his entire mindset because he has a gotten a benefit from gambling due to the taxes they are remitting to the government and of a true this didn't happen there is no way he could have this mindset to start gambling I know more things to convince him is still coming and when he suddenly wins he interest would definitely increased over the time.

All I can say is that he is influence because the agency where able to help and not playing because he see anything in gambling. Had it been it never occur to him to need such kind of favour, I'm very sure he wouldn't step a foot in any casino place involve himself in any casino website but it's cool, that's how it start. He can grow to understand it better with time if he look at in simply way why people gamble and not just a mere perception change because he was been helped.

Additionally, I think he also need guide. I hope he doesn't develop the mentality that whenever he need help, the first place that will ring his mind is going to be gambling, it will only lead to loss and from there, it might lead to addiction which can have a negative side on him.
By the way OP, the replies are now above 70 post and the thread is not yet lock, perhaps you are enjoying the relies you are seeing.

The reason why gamble requires one to have a job is because without a job the person who want to gamble will not have money to wager. But when it comes to professional gambler I do say that they are always lucky that's why anytime they bet they win, so people calls them professional gamblers, but 99% of their winning are from luck. Some gamblers trys to study gamble and their odds but those people are not always lucky all the time because the odds change.

I have never considered gambling a negative thing but surely I've always wanted everyone to be safe from the addiction that it causes. If someone gambles with responsibility then there's nothing wrong in gambling because it's someone's own choice to either gamble or not and if it helps someone in relieving of stress then it's good instead of bad.

Your friend's preception changed because he got medical aid for his loved one and that aid somehow came from gambling taxes. If he never got that aid then he would never change his mindset related to gambling, actually he isn't supporting gambling because he likes it but supporting it because it somehow saved his loved one.

Exactly, the tax generated from gambling is very huge. If a country is smart enough to manage it, the results obtained will be very beneficial for the country itself. The country can even boost tourism in the surrounding areas of the gambling place. But on the other hand, there are also significant risks associated with gambling, especially related to addiction issues and financial losses that individuals may experience. Therefore, it is important for the government to implement strict policies and protection programs for the people so they can enjoy the benefits of gambling tax without having to feel the negative impacts that often come with it.

Gambling is actually not bad if the government is able to regulate and supervise operating platforms and also provide good education regarding responsible gambling to society. Because the tax money collected from the gambling industry can be used by the government to build infrastructure, subsidies and many other useful things for society at large - and that can provide jobs and improve the country's economy. So there is no need to be too anti-gambling because if it is managed wisely it can become something useful for society.

Nothing is either all white or all black. Like in the OP's friend's case, in my country a huge part of the income of the national lottery is used to finance the deficit (and a little part to "La Liga" ) so when you play lottery you don't have the feeling that you are wasting your money if you don't win.

I understand that people in countries where there is no social security, public healthcare, public education... and there is no transparency about where the money goes can have a different perception. And we're not talking in this thread about games with an addiction potential, but about lotteries, which pose a low risk IMO.

So, again, in gambling, and in life in general, one shouldn't be so closed minded, but willing to change his mind if the evidences show him the opposite of what he thought.

A unique story, someone who was inspired to gamble started when someone close to him received free medical services from gambling tax funds. Well, if a country regulates gambling well, then the benefits derived from tax income can be felt by the citizens of that country. By the way, once in my country gambling was legal, especially lotteries. However, currently gambling, casinos, both land-based and online, are illegal. although, that doesn't stop people from gambling "for those who enjoy it".

To be honest, I don't have a story that is nearly the same as in your post. because gambling is something that is very familiar to me personally. In my country, there are many traditional gambling games that have been passed down from generation to generation since ancient times. It's just that currently the law regulates it and does not allow it. It's a shame, even though there are many benefits from gambling taxes. Apart from that, reducing illegal gambling sites operating.

I think that behind the negative things about gambling there must be a positive side that we can take, especially taxes, I don't know how taxes are managed in each country, so far what I've heard about gambling taxes has been done in my country but unfortunately that's enough. It's been a long time, maybe around tens of years, where gambling taxes were used to develop a city for the better and it was enjoyed together, but as modern times have developed and many online gambling sites have taken advantage, the government no longer accepts taxes and now in my country it is considered gambling as illegal.

For me, perspective depends on each person's view, but hearing this story can actually change people's perspective on gambling, but this also doesn't justify gambling as a good and correct activity for people who can't control themselves. It's best not to gamble at all. That's not all. People can change their perspective about gambling in their eyes it will definitely remain the same. 

When I was growing up my mom always complain about my dad's gambling attitudes. She made a case out of nothing every time my dad will bring up his gambling magazines to read news and make his focast with the weekly fixtures. She will always say that gambling are for irresponsible men, whereas my dad was responsible to the best of my knowledge. He always provide for us and pay the bills when due. Since I was more close to my mom I took side with her, don't blame me I was only a kid. Sometimes when my mom is not at home my dad will always tell me not to take my mom's view about gambling serious that she doesn't understand since she is not a gambler. My dad will always buy me new clothes and get for my mom too, but my mom will never reject it. One day my dad said to me that anytime he gets me clothes that I should know he has won a bet. That was when I realized that gambling wasn't a bad thing, because I haven't head or seen anyone or police coming to our house to look for my dad because of gambling. That was when my perspective changed about gambling and I said when I grew up I will be a gambler.

I would say he went too far to have started gambling. His perception should only change and not his ethics. He would still be someone who does not want to gamble even if his relative got free medication. What would have been the case if he really believed in his ethics was that he would allow the support of gambling and not look at those people who gamble around him as people who are irresponsible. I now humans are weak and when things go the other way round, they always change. I just hate to see condemners always turn to be the ones doing it the most.

This perception is correct but not completely justified. My point is that from the start it was true that gambling should be prohibited if the impact was that poor people would become poorer as a result of gambling. But when his relative became ill and had to get charitable assistance from a foundation whose funds were generated from gambling, it also ended positively. It's just a fact that not every country does that, especially social agencies whose nature is to provide assistance to the community. We were clearly not used to such donations, and his perception changed to justify gambling activities in favor of lotteries and he was caught in the loop.


Turning to the other side, because your country legalizes gambling so it can collect taxes, of course this system is clearly structured. This means that the government and casinos both regulate the circulation of money in casinos back to their citizens. In my country, the problem is that the circulation of money in casinos does not go into the country but abroad, which in the end causes state losses of almost billions of dollars. The economic cycle stops as gamblers put money into the casinos while the casinos take profits overseas. Our government is stressed because the economy is not running, which has an impact on money printing, inflation, increasingly expensive goods prices, and worst of all, the regional economic cycle is hampered.

I’m glad he saw the light that gambling is not really a bad thing. Apart from the benefits gained from taxes it has been of good help to a lot of youths in my country as well, a country with less job opportunities and number of unemployed youths increasing everyday but they got hope from gambling even though the road is tough sometimes and they lose money but they are still able to make something from it. I think it’s time for people to accept gambling to be part of us now, it’s not a bad thing when you are knowledgeable about it and how to be a responsible gambler.

I have never had anything against gambling from on set, i have been a supporter of gambling from beginning so nothing will change my perception about it. It has really been a good help for a lot of people financially even though it has it’s own disadvantages when engaged carelessly.

That’s the driving force for most gamblers but they don’t wannt to admit it although not everyone is motivated to gamble because of earning extra money from it.

It is different when the gambling industry is run and managed by the government. Taxes and revenues all go to the government for allocation to the sector that needs funding the most.

We cannot blame the guy in the story; some people just show gratitude to whom they owe their lives or their loved ones, in this case, the casino industry managed by the government, so changing their perception is not hard for him.

Even if it is a government owned casino , still all the revenue do not go for the people welfare. If it is a welfare gambling organizations only then we can assume that all the revenue will be for the public benefit.

So gambling casino profits are usually meant for those who own the casino and it is a proper business model. Yes, the more revenue casino generates, the more it will be required to pay taxes to government. By the way it's hard to change anyone's gambling perceptions.

Then it must be that you're from a country with a bad government structure and many corrupt government officials that loot funds meant for public use, because money generated from gambling taxes are meant for the public, to help establish the medical, education sector and assist the poor just like the OP's neighbour was assisted, I feel bad though cause I also come from a society where the government benefits more from revenue and leave much of it's citizens impoverished. Well, just like you I've never been biased concerning gambling cause I gamble occasionally and asides that I believe lots of people might have in one way or the other benefited from it either through winning jackpots from casinos or profits won by a friend or family member or even revenue generated from taxes paid by casino's.

I guess is something with most of us here, no one forced us into gambling and in my country gambling platforms are not promoted publicly which shows how low casino exposures are in the country, but then even with the low publicity a good number of citizens like myself still gamble and the reason for that is because we have motivations to gamble and fine it fun to gamble that make us tasty for gambling to the extent that we don't need casino to be promoted to us both directly or indirectly.

Well, there are good and bad effects of gambling with each individual that does it. If we'd look at the entire equilibrium of it, there are benefits that we barely notice on how the entire industry helps. And we can't be blamed because what we always see are the negative effects of gambling to each individuals per se. But if it's about the contribution that it does to an economy, we'd see the huge help that it does.

Aside from these, those foundations and charities that are initiative of these casinos. We have to appreciate them giving back to the community just like what OPs example. And we can't blame also those people that have negative thoughts and perception about gambling if they're only seeing the effect that it does to a person. It's a common knowledge that its impact always tend to be addictive, which results to a gambler doing things not according to what they used to do.

Sincerely, I view your friend as selfish, you do not need to benefit from something before you have the true disposition about the thing. If benefits come in, it might cloud your true judgement and I am sure he might change his stance later if gambling causes issues around him afterwards. This is because his decision is not on solid ground but for the help.

I've never abused gambling and no matter how people talk about it, I will always uphold my own beliefs about it. Gambling has never been bad, it is those who are engaging it badly that are stereotyping it. There have been both positive and negative stories about gambling, it's we who should make sure that we are not a part of the negative stories.

Why? You shouldn't in my opinion. Let people express themselves and if they are satisfied, the thread will naturally find its way to the forgotten threads directory.

My perception about gambling is neutral because we never knows if gambling can really helps people from the gambling tax that's allocated for health sector. Maybe there will be other things that will gets the distribution from the gambling tax so that can helps people and the country. But for those who playing gambling, they really needs to have many things such as self control, limitation, discipline and other things to prevents the gambling addiction.

It's normal if some people doesn't like gambling and wants gambling to be prohibit but they don't know what the function of gambling tax for their country. As long as the tax can be distribute to the right place, that will helps people and the development of the country.

My perception has been never changed, probably because I'm involved into gambling from the school age when I and my classmates were beting on primitive events. Later on, being in college, I have gave my mind to roulette in the local casino and since that time I maintain a peg with this hissing wheel by visiting casinos in various  visited countries. Consequently,  this my habitue became a sign of gambling mastery.

In my opinion it's easy to change the perception about gambling if you were live in the country who legalized gambling because usually the government from those countries were takes taxes from any gambling or casino activities and those government also can properly manage the money from taxes which is used to build public facilities including the health of their people and i have no wonder people at there will starting to change their perception about gambling and start to support these activities because the government knows how to take advantage from gambling and use it for public needs but it could be different if you were live in the countries who considers gambling is illegal because in these countries gambling always be considered as the activities which will give negative impact to the people so i think if people want to change the perception about gambling generally first of all the government from those countries should be accept and legalized gambling

Yes, gambling generate a lot of taxes, but it also create a burden on the government. A lot of people with gambling problems turn to crime to feed their addiction and then they hurt other people.

How many times have we read about employees stealing money from their work and bankrupting those businesses... this leads to unemployment for the many other innocent people that worked for these businesses.

The opposite is also true... some people win millions in Lotteries and they start businesses... creating jobs for many people.

There are many good and bad things that might come from the gambling industry and responsible gambling can change people's lives in a positive way.

Regulation should govern gambling operations to help prevent gambling addiction and all the negative things that come with that.

This is a good gesture by gambling companies to directly support the health sector in your country. I'm hearing of it for the first time, I believe that most gambling companies will only pay obligatory taxes to the government. This good deeds of gambling companies will definitely keep increasing the number of gamblers in your country, especially the poor to give back to appreciate the gambling companies, like the man in the OP.

I know that most people that were skeptical about gambling and later begin to engage in it is because of financial lack. I made a comment on a related thread yesterday where I said that poverty can push people who condemn gambling to turn around to become gambler.  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.64302904

Life can be ridiculous sometimes. So a bunch of gambling addicts ruined their lives and wasted their money on a casino. The casino paid gambling taxes and a part of those taxes were used to save the life of this guy's wife. Does this justify gambling and gambling addiction? Hell no. I agree that the gambling industry should pay taxes, but most of those taxes should be going to addiction rehab programs. Just because gambling money were used for the healthcare system doesn't mean that gambling isn't ruining the lives of many people. I'm not putting the blame entirely on the gambling industry. I also don't want to put the blame on the addicts, because they are sick people, that need treatment.
Everyone is guilty more or less. Life is absurd.

Gambling because 15% of what you lose will eventually go to healthcare is not a shitty excuse. It is very good in my opinion and not an excuse. The guy does not like gambling because he knows that people are losing than they are winning. But he later knew that in his country, some of the taxes from gambling goes to health care which helped him. He then start to gamble because of that. He has in mind already that gambling is very risky, that he can lose the money. But that if he lose, some of the money will go to healthcare in a way that some lives can be saved just like during his time in hospital. It is a brilliant thinking.

However, there are still many people who deny the donation from gambling, they say "the social welfare didn't only get donation from gambling, but they also get from rich people, big manufactures etc."

Just like people who boycott companies that supporting Israel or didn't help Palestine, but they're still use their products. Google, cell phone, etc are made from the companies they boycotted.

Why they lose their lives? if they become poor, they're eligible to get donation from government where the funds come from gambling, right?

Indeed, there are many people who misunderstand gambling, thinking that they can get rich quickly by gambling and they also think that gambling is a means of being able to make money for sure. Unfortunately, this is of course not true because with their understanding like that, they will only feel annoyed. When the money they bet on is lost in gambling, apart from that, they will not be able to accept the money they bet on and lose it in gambling, so this attitude and behavior will only make them more addicted to gambling. The wrong mindset regarding understanding gambling must be changed, they must be able to consider gambling as a means of entertainment, nothing more than that. If they want to be rich, of course they have to work for real, not just by hoping for a miracle to happen by gambling, don't get big wins or win consistently, to get just one win, which isn't even big, is very difficult. So if they have the wrong thoughts about gambling then they will only put themselves at the point of misery.

Of course we ourselves will determine what our fate will be in the future, if we can gamble responsibly then there is little chance of big losses occurring because having a sense of responsibility can make us prevent actions that carry big risks, because many gamblers experience big losses. because they do not have a good sense of responsibility or boundaries with the gambling they do. However, when they think that gambling is wrong and are addicted, it is certainly not easy to change their mindset or perception about the gambling they do. Those who are addicted to gambling certainly have the perception that they can get money or win at gambling with certainty so they don't think that winnings at gambling are based on luck. and of course that will set them up for misery.

Of course, it is impossible to get rich if we gamble continuously and in fact we all often see those who have gambled frequently, they will experience financial problems and it is not uncommon for someone who gambles frequently that they don't. can have savings because they always spend more of the funds they have on gambling so they don't have time to think about having savings.

Limiting ourselves to gambling activities is of course very important because no one can win their gambling often and only luck can give us a win and of course we rarely get this in gambling, so it would be better for us to be able to control ourselves. When gambling and when we lose, we can stop and not continue gambling which will cause us to experience even more losses.

For me, nothing changed. This is just another positive effect of gambling, think also some people lose a lot of money like their lives due to excessive gambling.
This gaming corporation giving away money is very small percentage how they make money off gambling, some also doing this due to some tax related.

That only depends on what will be the reason of a person has, we couldn't judge their undertakings towards gambling. If their purpose is good towards partaking gambling, then there's no doubt about it since the motives is for very crucial and important reason. Sometimes we will break our every principles just for sacrificing our dignity for a love ones, yes we hate something but I believed it could come to an exception once there's a deeper reason on a case to case basis.

I think that his position was not correct or incorrect in relation to the subject, it was his way of thinking about something that undoubtedly many people do not understand, in my case it is difficult for me to believe that some countries penalize gambling, but, the prostitution, oh is allowed.

Consequently, he initial position is fine, no problem, I respect it, but then it changes due to the fact that betting generates tax payments, and that even many gaming companies have social aid foundations, etc., hey, like any other bussines, but, it is an error of conviction in reference to the subject.

That denotes misinformation in the criteria of ideas in reference to gambling topic, because I repeat; It is very valid to be against betting, but it is also very valid to support it. In reality, social aid should not have changed its initial position; in short, it is an issue with many aspects socio-culturals.

I don't think also that the perception about gambling is also ok and this for me a negative aspects of gambling, how can you gamble with the aim that when you lose the casino goes to pay tax from such loses, because at the end if he continue to gamble with such a pattern he will end up becoming an addicts or even go into debt simply by trying to meet up with his set targets.


At the end he will not impact anything on the healthcare sector as he wish and also may not end well personally, I buy into your idea of him starting a project such as a healthcare oriented company and give back directly to the society, gambling can give him such positive result.

That's... oddly specific. I don't think asking for help in social welfare even includes them being told that "Hey, this money came from taxes from gamblers!" kind of thing. But anyway, if it was negative I don't think this would've been enough to change it. In the first place, it's not about where the money goes, the negative idea about gambling is because of how it gets the money.

In most cases, at least in most news articles shown to people, it's about gamblers being destroyed by gambling. Yes, it helps people sure, but it doesn't change the fact that it can and will destroy some peoples lives. You can argue that it's not really their fault, but just because of players being impulsive which is true, but again the initial idea that it destroyed the lives of people still stands. Pretty sure that's how most peoples idea stand, at least from what I feel/understand about them.

This is where they are getting it wrongly because you can never get rich just like that by gambling continually, most times we shouldn't be replying on regular gambling to become so rich over night. Most times what makes people go bankrupt is inability to control their feelings towards gambling and it should be somewhat limited or being cultured to limit how they gamble. If gambler could be responsible and limit the way they chase lose after loss is another cool way to stop them from losing more while gambling.

Did I read it right? OP's friend started gambling because of that small % of the money going on taxes and an even smaller % of that tax money going to healthcare? If he really wants to impact healthcare and taxation he should simply start a company. He'd have to pay healthcare tax for himself and all his employees and that would be a significant sum. He'd also be making money in the process. Gambling because 15 of what you lose will eventually go to healthcare is a very shitty excuse.

This is something that every country should have, unfortunately, it is not the case. In addition to the gambling tax, it could be taken from other taxes and all that money could be used for the treatment of citizens. You live in a nice state, in my state, the casinos pay a lot of taxes for sure and invest a lot in sports fields around the country, I guess that is a good part, but we all know they use it to advertise and reduce taxes because they invest money in various social organizations as well.

This is quite a different situation than what is obtainable in other places that a gambling agency would use tax generated as social responsibility for the community. This is very encouraging that the poor benefit from the little gambling money that they put in.

My jurisdiction, nothing of such happens and taxes are only collected by the government for whatever purpose they would use it for. Thus, the situation never had any positive or negative influence to gambling since it has been what was on ground. You bet for yourself and to your own peril not for any expectations of any accruing or future benefit. Therefore, you are there for yourself and that is why you only should bet as you can bear the loses.

Actually i am not a rich person so i bankroll only a small amount of weekly income for gambling. You should hate it when you repeatedly lose gambling because it is not with your luck. You will find many people in your area who have good luck and always win by betting on gambling. Poor people in my country don't like gambling. But middle class people are more addicted to gambling because they dream of getting rich suddenly. They pay more to gambling because they think it is possible to get rich quick.

I don't want to get into your story, so to answer your direct question, i never had a negative perception about gambling, what i don't accept is underage gambling, and most casinos warn that users below the age limit should not gamble in their platforms. If adults want to gamble, then let them do so, i gamble too, but i do so responsibly. Gambling only becomes a problem when it is abused, but just as everything is, so there is nothing peculiarly wrong about gambling IMO.

I don't think there's ever a time I've ever been against gambling. When I was a kid I thought nothing of gambling so I didn't have a perspective on it. Even when I became an adult, I didn't think of gambling till I started gambling. So I have never been against gambling or ever advocated that it should be banned.
Of course I don't believe bitcoin doesn't have any disadvantages, almost everything has disadvantages but on the grand scheme of things, there's nothing illegal about, except it is done illegally or fraudulently.

This is a good example of why company should do charity work too. A little giving back to the community goes a long way. It may seem like nothing, but as long as it can save or help one person, it's something.

Right from the beginning, I didn't dislike gambling, so I don't know if there was something that could have made me begin to like it if I was among those who hated it from the beginning.
 
The sweet part of the story is that there was a positive result and gambling funds were able to help save someone's life. It's not like a situation where they used it for something negative and the rest of them, which could have triggered him to hate gambling more.

Sometimes we minimize things that have no impact on us. From the case you convey, taxes from gambling help the health sector, which also allows it to be allocated to increasing talents and interests such as scholarships or skills courses for less fortunate people.

I don't think it's just gambling, as taxes from the production of processed tobacco and alcoholic beverages also make quite a large contribution to state tax revenues. some may even set up their foundations to help.

we cannot force people to think well when it comes to gambling. they have their own thoughts. let them finally open their own eyes to some of the benefits they may actually feel and enjoy from something they consider bad.

Every individual with their own perspective as it relates to gambling. I do not have any problem with gambling but I think we all know that it is a risky venture and as such, while gambling, we should gamble responsibly.

In my country, revenues are majorly generated from natural  resources and multinationals that operates in my country, so there are lots of agencies that does cater for social welfare and lots more. I have not really heard anything about revenue being generated from gambling uses for any purpose or whatsoever but I believe revenues oare for from the tac payers and should be used for rendering services to them.

You are correct that taxes from gambling goes into social welfare but the taxes that goes into social welfare isn't just from gambling alone. There are other sectors that contribute their taxes so social welfare. It is proper to have a balanced view so that a gambling addict will not blame the social welfare schemes as their reason for getting addicted to gambling. As they may also argue that because they wanted to contribute to the scheme they have to gamble more which the taxes from their gambling goes to this scheme.

I used to see gambling in a negative light while growing up because of what was fed to us as kids by our parents. I wouldn't blame them though, they just wanted to keep us safe. And whatever they told us about gambling was from a limited and one-sided point of view. I grew and got the full picture of gambling I wouldn't say my view of gambling is positive or negative, it is more of neutral. Because however anyone chooses to see gambling, they are right about it.

What you said may be right but may not be applicable to all countries. Some countries don't bother to use the tax allocation from gambling or bet to build some infrastructure like health care facilities, or free education, good roads and many other important things. But this political, bloody, and greedy men will rather chose to squander the tax revenue generated. And leave the poor masses with outreach poverty. For me If I am trigger to gamble due to the benefits it may not be due to what the government does with the gambling tax because it is not useful to us in our country. I rather gamble to try luck if I may win jack pot someday. Or just gamble for fun and meet new people which I might get an important information someday.

With this in mind, you can say that you don't need to convince anyone about the benefits or the goodness of gambling just to change his perspectives on this activity. As people grow older and more mature, they will understand what's going on with people when it comes to gambling. It is on the person's actions if he will be a responsible gambler or not.

People already know the negative side of gambling if it is being mismanaged, as we have seen a lot of gamblers getting screwed their family life owed to financial troubles. On the other hand, the gambling industry in general is somehow an important institution in the community as it can generate good income, in which, it can pay a sizable amount of taxes to the government. And that amount, can be allocated to various government projects.

it is a bit of a shallow way of changing his perception but good for him. anyway, this would easily change if one of his loved ones becomes a gambling addict shows what damage gambling can do to someone and the people around it.

I never really had much of a negative view of gambling but after becoming an adult I understood that gambling itself isn't really the issue, it is how people handle themselves when they are gambling.

Most people who I've seen transformed their life through winning the jackpot actually enjoyed a transient wealth. Sooner, nothing was left on them, as they all wagered it all back to the casino. Only a few stories of successful men who used gambling to set up a falling company, made my perspective clear about gambling and how helpful it could be to a handful of people. However, lots of players also regret ever going into gambling.

But, if many countries implement what is been done in Op's nation, everyone would have a different perspective of gambling. People still talk down on gambling because they've not benefitted through it. The moment societies get helped by money generated via gambling, all the bad publicity about gamblers would begin to get erased. As their gambling problems can get treated easily in the hospital without paying a dime, that's for households that can't afford to pay the hospital bills.

Basically the negative perception about gambling depends on the surrounding social system. I too was initially negative about gambling but my views have changed over time. Gambling as entertainment has become a hobby for me and certainly not an addiction. I find in my surroundings that most of the gamblers have gambling as their hobby and they are also engaged in jobs or other business which motivates me more which is definitely not an addiction. I think they are the ones who lose their precious wealth because they are too addicted to gambling.

So had it been his love one never had an emergency money, he would still be among the people that banter the society about gambling lifestyle. It's a good thing he change his perspective but it shouldn't be because the tax agency had, it's part of the system to help people in this kind of situation as there are other firms and agency that do this too. He need to understand gambling, it's more than taxing people to help people with emergency, gambling is all about fun and he need to understand that aspect.

We have many of them that even want gambling to be ban when there are no alternatives for people to have fun over the weekend. As I'm for instance, I don't do any other outdoor than hanging out and I don't do liquor, it's gambling that I spend a lot of my free time on when I don't have anywhere to go and I don't get bored doing that but when people see you do all this kind of stuff, they think you are looking for daily food as called it and it's embarrassing. Let's all gamble with low risk and enjoy the fun of it and people who want it for the money can do all they want.

I believe the reason why most person are off Ill opinion of gambling is because what of happened to these so called addict because of the things that they do  because to some extent some addicts really get crazy and even sell off their property and some even engage in all sort violence even just to fulfill that urge.

Well for the aspect of revenue that's generate from gambling, it's indeed huge money that do come from gambling but over here in my country what will be argued is not even the money but if truly the government actually use these money for something good.

Personally, I only hate gambling when I was still young and uneducated, but when I reached the mature age and become more educated about gambling, I started to like it most especially that gambling does not require any job or profession, but certainly luck. And with luck comes a lot of people who have transform their lives from rags to riches, except for those who only gamble to lose all their life savings completely. While gambling brings a lot of luck and entertainment, still being a responsible gambler will always be a must so you won't just gamble blindly.

Some people find it convenient to criticize what they do not understand and that may be what is happening with your friend. He may not hate gambling as you claim but might just be lacking the right information about it. If he actually hate gambling, he will not like to benefit from the proceeds of gambling. You can see how well his perception changed when he finally understood some things about gambling.

I never had wrong perception about gambling and I find it strange that some people do. Gambling is not that bad and I see it just like every other business that involves risk. People becoming addicted and displaying all manners of characters are to blame and not gambling itself because there are rules and precautions to be followed in gambling, those who deviate are not doing it correctly. Besides, abuse is something that happens in everything, people abuse even food.

I didn't like gambling because I saw my grandmother betting and thought she was wasting money she could be using for more productive purposes. I also thought she wasted time at casinos, while she could be spending time with other activities. However, she never was a problem gambler. She always bet responsively. At some point, when I knew she was alone at home, without anyone to talk to or hang out together, I understood gambling was an important hobby she had to find some pleasure and fun for her life.

Then I didn't bother anymore with the fact she was gambling, and started to see the bright side of it, which has as primary rule to be a responsible gambler who doesn't neglect his duties in order to place bets.

Moreover, I also found an opportunity to make income promoting online casinos on this forum. It lead me to realize it's a promising industry which moves large sums of money and employs many people around the world, and allows an important money redistribution when the wealthy players lose, so part of their wealth goes to feed this ecosystem.

I am just wondering why the would had been agitating for the ban of gambling when when he has never had the gambling experience to understand the benefit returns such as funs and the profiting potentials of it.

I also wonder how the taxes generated in the gambling firms are being allocated to the welfare of the Poors. Really feels weird to be given benefit of doubts.

How possible can it really be that of all social fundraising schemes, how it could be gambling taxes revenues that uplifted the appeal of funds for the medical aid.

While my anxieties remains inquisitive,  I abort to support the his motions of gambling at times intentionally just to return back to gambling as being appreciated for the good  deeds of the raise of funds for his relatives medical aid.


Having it all explained in a complexity, gambling is not an evil game ought to be banned and if in anyway gamblers seems to be ruined as a course of them gambling, it is basically a personal decision because you only gamble when you want to and not when the casino wanted you to gamble.
So, every irresponsible gamblers ruin themselves and not the gambling. It's also good to had learnt it became obvious to him that gambling is not such an evil or or negative activity as he may had earlier thought.

What I value in gambling is that no gambling company or casino invites me to gamble. I gamble on my own and the results that come out there are based on my actions, so why should I call gambling companies or casinos are bad. Moreover, it is not just an only company but considered as an industry. We have no reason to be upset with it or view this gambling negatively. If someone doesn't like it then he can leave it but we can't blame others for our mistakes. Those who want to ban gambling are either failing themselves or are misguided. Gambling is not a problem for anyone if it is seen as a source of entertainment rather than a source of income. Governments of various countries are collecting revenue from this platform and using it for the welfare of the country.

From the beginning I got to know gambling, I knew that gambling is a risky activity and can have a bad impact on someone's life, but that doesn't mean I have a bad perception of this activity, because on the other hand I also see the positive side of this activity which I can use to fill my life. My free time is boring, especially on weekends, meaning I have a neutral perception of these activities according to my understanding.

Everyone is free to choose and everyone is also free to determine their point of view on everything they find, but I will say one thing simply that whether gambling is good or bad according to someone ultimately depends on how you understand the activity, and if If you are a gambler then it also depends on how you treat this activity, because of course gambling will open the door to various bad disasters if the person treats it in the wrong way.

You are talking about casinos run by the government or private casinos?

If it's run by the government, of course the revenue or net income will go to the people and the development of the country. However, if it's a private casino that is regulated by the government, they can only get a certain percentage of the income of the casinos. As for the casinos, we don't know where their money is going after paying taxes because they don't have any other responsibility aside from paying taxes and licensing fees.

PCSO, or the Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office, is the organization running this business. I think there was also a topic before about corruption within the government agency, but let us not dig into that. We just have to focus on the benefits to the people from this government-owned lottery business.

Nothing is going to make me change my perception of gambling.  At best it is a form of entertainment, at worst a life destroying addiction.

Do I choose to gamble?  No.  I don't have the knowledge to improve my probability of winning on sports wagering or the skill to do the same against opponents (poker, etc.).
Pure probability gambling (lotteries, slots, roulette, etc.) are off the table since I understand basic mathematics.

What I do understand is the human desire to win even against (or while ignoring or failing to understand) the odds, so I invest in casinos (MGM Grand, Las Vegas Sands), gambling related real estate (Vici Properties), and firms that support and provide equipment and management to gambling operations (Gaming International).

tl;dr:  I make money off gamblers, not gambling. 😎

Haha, I am not surprised really, for I too used to have the same perception about gambling and wished the government can just ban it for the general good of the entire society, since I really used to believe that only irresponsible people are the ones who are gambling, and the majority of them are criminals, kidnappers and participants in all sorts of crime in our society.

But then in my work.place, a new guy was employed, he was a very good guy, we got talking and after several months of him working in the same shift with me, we became tight friends, he helped me when he can and I also did same when I can, we became really close to each other, and this was when I discovered that he was a gambler, he he often spent a few dollars on gambling on every weekend, I have liked him to the extent that it was now impossible to hate him because he was a gambler, and amazingly, he was a very hardworking and responsible young man, this alone changed my initial perception that only irresponsible people gambled.
I tried advising him to stop but he insisted that nothing is wrong with him gambling, so I watched, and one day, he won a really good amount of money, one that is more than enough to change my life for good completely, this was when I got interest in gambling myself.

A lot of people don't know that casinos do contribute their little quarter to charity organizations and for free health care to government, that is why they are always criticizing gambling. It was when I was growing up that I thought I will not engage in gambling but as I grew up to understand that it isn't bad the way some folks talk about it. I found myself gambling and I don't criticize gambling.

Must you write this on your recent topics. The last time I checked the first topic you created writing that quoted sentence is on the third page and you have not locked it.

There is no change in perception, we know that some of the taxes from gambling are used for social assistance, it's just that people don't understand where the taxes from gambling are taken, After he found out that the funds from the gambling tax were partly used for medical/social assistance, he kept quiet and realized the benefits of the gambling tax.

I really understand the gambling industry in my country, from one point it is prohibited and another side it is legal, so here I understand whether I support it or not, the point is that gambling continues as it is, it really is not prohibited, because the gambling tax is beneficial for the poor, as in the case OP said, what is clear to me is that there is no overall perception, of course I never said that I don't support it and don't order it, just do whatever is there and enjoy it.

In general, my position is not binary positive or negative, it depends on (1) the income and (2) the self-control/psychology of the players. If he/she can afford gambling and has the necessary self-control then you can say that gambling is just as positive/negative as other entertainment.

However, from a personal perspective, I think it will vary depending on who you talk to. For someone who got rekt or hardcore religious, surely it will be negative. But for those including me who get many benefits from signature and love of the game, it will be positive. It will change tho if I don't get the benefit anymore since gambling is an expensive form of entertainment.

It is the first time realizing that some countries are using the Taxes coming from gambling to help poor people in need, or even some organizations themselves are giving away money collected from gamblers to needy people. I believe that my short knowledge about gambling is due to prohibition of gambling in our country, where the only form of gambling that exists is one TV lotto game, and also only casinos that the government itself can’t ban or do anything against it.
This story shows a positive side of gambling, although it is not good to make people and gamblers feel that this activity is less risky since it is played by many. One of the negative effects of gambling is making you lose everything you have, turning you to a poor person. So how logically can be more positive than negative, knowing that gamblers without moderation are so close to getting addicted.

This is a lottery owned and operated by the government, so it's just right that the funds or revenue is used to help the poor. However, this isn't the game that is so addictive as there are other games out there that are more fun to play because of the better chances for gamblers, making them more addictive as they're challenging.

A lot of money would be collected by the government from gambling, but they also have to balance it so that it doesn't increase the poverty problem. Without control, poor people might become addicted to gambling as they are easy targets due to their desperation to make money. For the lottery, I think we can make an exception since it only requires a small, very affordable amount to bet.

I still have the same mindset I had before I started gambling I.e gambling is both good and bad - it is bad in the sense that being addicted could ruin your life and make you useless in life and it’s good in the sense that one could use it as a means of entertainment and also get to make money from it (if they know what they are doing).

In my country there’s nothing like this in the gambling industry - I haven’t heard of anything gambling related that was used by the government to settle one section of the public needs, the most recent news I heard was that gambling was going to be banned in the country due to the high rate of users that are swarming into it.

Well that escalated quickly. Personally, I don't condemn those people who are against gambling because they have their own reasons why also, it is indeed addictive and many people just happened to lack self-discipline to not be one with those cases. Gambling is just an activity, as we all know but the fate and outcome a gambler has, depends on how he/she would do things whether he/she would allow him/herself to be too carried away by emotions whenever they're in gambling sites. As gamblers, we are all prone to addiction. It is just self-control which puts us away from that risk. They might had a bad experience with gambling which resulted to hatred on their end and if you know to yourself that you're a responsible one, just embrace it and keep it as a reminder than to just go up against the idea because of our ego.

Looking at the help the person received via gambling which is enough to change anybody's perception of gambling including another forum member who accepted to have a changed perspective of gambling because of such organisation, it's certainly hard not to change how we see gambling after being cured of illness through gambling money. Have never had any wrong perspective about gamblers. Since it's not being forced on people to become gamblers.

Even though it has to do with our emotions, gamblers have choices. Non-gamblers also have their decisions on what to say, think or do. I'd admit that they are some activities which wasn't acceptable by my thoughts, but after getting helped through it, my perspective about it changed. It's more like helping someone who never liked us, they'll definitely change the way they think about us.

I am against gambling when it's my loved ones who are doing it. That's why I am avoiding letting them know that I am gambling so that no questions will be asked and it won't make them curious about it.

Regarding the change of point of view about gambling, there was a cockpit near the residential area here in our place, and at first, I was against it. I told my neighbors that it could ruin the life of the people in our neighborhood and so do our kids in the future when they grow up.
But it all changed when I saw the changes in our city especially the upgrades in the road near us. I was told most of the funds came from that cockpit that was made and I also heard that the taxes were so high that even the gamblers cannot feel their profit if they are betting low amounts only. That's where I said to myself that it's okay but still I want strict regulations and entry of minors should not be allowed.

Right from when I became aware of gambling, I did not hate it rather I was only scared of losing my money because I do see friends who usually complain to have lose their money in gambling and also those that are rejoicing over their wins.
One thing I understand is that most people that hate gambling are people that have misconception about gambling or due to how some of them have been brainwashed in their tradition or religion. Some of them too are judging gambling based on the side effects it had on some addicted fellows.

I am actually inspired by your country's ideas to allocate tax from the gambling sector in order to help the poor, which is actually a good one because some countries have no concern about that, which will go a long way to making it easy for the poor and not letting the poor go astray if it is in some country that a neighbour of yours will either forfeit his mother to die or go and get a loan, if they can give him one, but with this innovation of your country. The poor will have no worries about such things and will have to support gambling in any way because they have no option, and the neighbour might even have a slight chance of becoming a gambler because he will believe in gambling with his life and he will not allow anyone to see gambling on the negative side. 

One funny thing is that, the only major thing that will drag me and keep me gambling to make some extra cash and that’s one bitter truth that every gambler will be shying away from saying but it’s the obvious truth.
If I’m not wrong, I was attracted to gambling from a friends winning and I wanted to experience what winning from gambling was and I could remember when the winning was constant that every time I was fed to gamble but I had to redress my footsteps and seeing that, I was gambling more than expected, had to pause for a while and when I got back, I did gambled on a very strict principles.

I have never had a bad or negative perception of gambling or have been against it, the thing that I'm against is irresponsible gambling and people who don't understand that gambling is a game of luck and not a place for them to make a fortune and you can't keep pushing yourself trying to hit a jackpot or something because that isn't how it works. Just gamble normally, make your bets without trying to increase them, and if you are lucky, you will get something out of it, and if you are not, you will lose what you have deposited, and one should make sure they deposit what they can afford to lose.

In countries where gambling is legal it is true that the taxes collected by the state from gamblers and gambling platforms are used for good causes if the government is honest and good and doesn't use funds for personal growth and increasing personal wealth and resources.

We are from the same country as OP yes, gambling is legal in our country, but with strict restrictions; when I was not yet betting, I also did not like gambling, but after seeing the big allocations and the many schools, hospitals, and medical equipment bought by Pagcor and PCSO the two agencies that manage the gambling operation in our country, we become supportive, there is no free hospitalization in our country you need to be part of the poor sector to avail of this help.
Gambling is considered evil by many, but for some people, it's a blessing for their needs.

What country are you from? In my country, the poor will only suffer or work hard. The government are the ones that have the highest payment from the revenues the government are generating from taxes and other sources.

I am a man that think not on one side. This makes me not to hate gambling right from when I know that gambling exists. But I always wish people will understand gambling before they are gambling because gambling is very risky. Only little amount of money like 1% of your weekly income should be as bankroll for gambling.

This really happened:
I have a neighbor who hates any form of gambling, and he wants gambling to be banned; at one time, we argued, and I argued that here in our country, taxes coming from gambling are a big help to the poorest of the poor, so he should not support banning and just let people bet. Still, it seems back then nothing can change his mind.

Then one day it happened one of his loved ones needed an operation and medication, and since he was poor he had no money to use for the operation and to buy medicines, but one of his relatives advised him to go to the hospital's social welfare and with the help of the social welfare and the taxes coming from gambling that's allocated for the health sector his loved one was operated, and he got free medications.

With this, his perception of gambling changed. He now supports betting on the lottery and sometimes takes a chance by betting as a way to thank the agency and, at the same time, try to win the jackpot.

How about you what made you change your perception of gambling from negative to positive?
Or what will make you change your perception?

Let's have a discussion on this.

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PAGCOR helps fund health, education, sports programs

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