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November 21, 2019, 03:32:53 PM
#42
$8300- $8400 has been skipped, it looks like this decline will continue around $7500- $7700.  because I see from a number of indicators it still shows a falling trend.  and if you go up it might still be waiting at the beginning of the year  and I don't think there's good news about bitcoin right now.

The trend is actually bear also in my view but how long it will stay is what should be determined. So going in now on bear is risky with the end of year that has much activities and nobody knows what can push the market. Therefore, staying outside should be the best for someone outside already.
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November 21, 2019, 03:29:17 PM
#41
Bitcoin may dump in the short run but in the bigger time frame it will rise high and broke its previous records. The problem is that when bitcoin prices start to fall, people become disappointed and never look at the big picture. The bitcoin prices cannot straight go up, there will be a lot of pump and dump in between.
yeah right pump and dump will always be there to accompany the Bitcoin journey, as I made the screenshot below. there appear to be two red zones that I made, I limit the first in the red zone as a sign of a price rebound or even being skipped. if passed it's likely that the price of Bitcoin will fall in the second red zone area.

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November 21, 2019, 12:36:05 PM
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The same pattern for 2016 with 2019
First form an ascending triangle then fall and sideways rise up to a few percent and now form a falling wedge pattern
I think support of $ 8300- $ 8400 is very strong, we will probably touch $ 12000 soon .. !!
What do you think..?

I actually did not notice it. I think this is a great analysis to predict some future movement of Bitcoin. Although it is not certain where would it move to still we need find the most probable moves. History repeats so does chart patterns. We soon may find a bull move in BTC price. Do not expect this bull move to come in few days or month, it may take 1 year, 2 years or more but it will come.
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November 21, 2019, 10:30:59 AM
#39
It’s an interesting comparison but I still don’t think we will see a big increase this year. I think it’s going to happen after the mining block reward gets cut in half. Or at least it will begin a little ahead of that which is in May 2020.
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November 21, 2019, 10:09:30 AM
#38
it is reminiscing to remember because bitcoin closed very profitable in 2016 and 2017. 2018 was a bad year but bitcoin closed better and showed signs of life and what's next to come in 2019. Corrections already happened after that months of bullish trend this year so I guess bitcoin closes this year again better than this month. I am not expecting too much growth as we only have 40 days to end this year. $13,000 and i'm good with it.
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November 21, 2019, 10:08:50 AM
#37
Shouldn't it be compared with the 2015 - 2016 chart vs the 2019-2020 chart which is not there yet?
Same halving timeline right? Just my opinion though.

But you still did great digging that kind of chart and putting all those lines.
Hoping the same thing could happen so that all this FUD that I have been reading will just be erased tomorrow or in a week.
They are somehow suffocating with negativity.
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November 21, 2019, 09:56:38 AM
#36
If history would repeat itself with respective to the price of bitcoin then we are in for another bullish run based on the technical analysis of the OP my concern is that as we are approaching the end of the year hodlers might withdraw or exchange some of their bitcoin to fiat so as to buy stuffs for Christmas invariably might lead to fall in the price of bitcoin implying that the price might likely defies the TA.
I think history would like to repeat itself and it could be somehow resemble the previous halving before bull run. I don't want to think this is just a coincidence but everything looks like the same. It would probably going to repeat the history itself. 2020 may not be the bullish year but 2021 is the year for real bull run.
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November 21, 2019, 09:54:41 AM
#35
Its look like the chart is almost same as it was at year 16 .However there is no certainty that market will go through as it was in 16. The crypto market is an uncertain platform .We can just predict here with our own experience and research .I hope the market will get a pump and if we could find any strong uptrend it could hit 12k$ .Now we need to eye on the market what happen on there.
Technically the same trend but it can change anytime and the trend can still change because bitcoin are more active this year compare to 2016 and we know that the price moves depends on the behavior of the seller and buyer. If we go the same path this year, then we will see the big price if not then we must prepare for that and believe that bitcoin will survive this long bear trend.
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November 21, 2019, 09:51:33 AM
#34
If history would repeat itself with respective to the price of bitcoin then we are in for another bullish run based on the technical analysis of the OP my concern is that as we are approaching the end of the year hodlers might withdraw or exchange some of their bitcoin to fiat so as to buy stuffs for Christmas invariably might lead to fall in the price of bitcoin implying that the price might likely defies the TA.
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November 21, 2019, 09:41:31 AM
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Its look like the chart is almost same as it was at year 16 .However there is no certainty that market will go through as it was in 16. The crypto market is an uncertain platform .We can just predict here with our own experience and research .I hope the market will get a pump and if we could find any strong uptrend it could hit 12k$ .Now we need to eye on the market what happen on there.
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November 21, 2019, 08:47:20 AM
#32
As we see in the past of years bitcoin is still grow up, And its a big oppurtunity the importance of bitcoin to all since 2016 pump and dump till 2019. But its a big step you to predict what will happen in the next next year.
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November 21, 2019, 08:02:46 AM
#31
Invest carefully, usually people cashout during this period as well.. prices tend to rise but they boom really fast.. of course, this is based my observation. Trade Safe!

People won't often withdraw at this time of the year. It's more of a tradition to save up money from the beginning of the year and then towards the end of the year, they withdraw it. Same goes for Bitcoin users too. But if there one thing I'm quite sure of, it's the fact that the price would take a positive turn (probably a big move) in the days, weeks or even month leading up to the block halving event in may. Bitcoin could find a new base price as miners  would need higher prices for btc in order to meet up their costs. Also the inflation rate will be slashed by half (~50%).

Reasons why I'm bullish:
  • Less amount of bitcoin being added to the current supply
  • Higher demand + mimers would require higher prices to break even or even profit.
  • The halving event is a milestone event and at such, the price would reflect such event

Some say this might be Bitcoin's biggest move so I'll stick around to find out.
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November 21, 2019, 04:07:24 AM
#30
From a close observation, I came to know a very similar pattern of both year for this time, that's why I also assumed that November and December would be the most suitable time to invest and trade in this platform, not only that but also Bitcoin price will automatically increase when this time comes, From my joining to this platform, I have a belief that Bitcoin price will increase at an increasing rate but 2017 was a mystery, Basically, people want Bitcoin value as like as 2017 but it's not the base of this platform, definitely it was a flook, but the price will increase for sure, so 2020 will be the most exciting year.

Invest carefully, usually people cashout during this period as well.. prices tend to rise but they boom really fast.. of course, this is based my observation. Trade Safe!
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November 20, 2019, 02:42:57 PM
#29
The problem is that when bitcoin prices start to fall, people become disappointed and never look at the big picture. The bitcoin prices cannot straight go up, there will be a lot of pump and dump in between.
Well said. In a market people look at how the price behaves to determine what the actual state of the asset is, which means that as long as the price is going up, people are likely to consider it a fantastic asset to invest in.

The problem with a lot of those who entered this space in 2017 is that they saw the price increase significantly for months straight, which they apparently believed that it was very normal for crypto.

Initially they made some decent paper gains, but these gains turned into severe paper losses, especially for those who kept holding their coins because the general sentiment within crypto is to keep holding....
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November 20, 2019, 01:09:39 PM
#28
Might be a similar pattern last three years ago but it doesn't guarantee that it will repeat itself on what had happened during that time. You still need to treat each pattern as a unique case where you don't need to consider anything about its past movements prior to that pattern, the pattern/formation can still either make or break depending on the supporting indicators such like what you have given which is RSI and others like volume and MACD. It's a good thing that you have recognized the falling wedge pattern now but it's not good that you are analyzing it in a way that you are comparing it's historical price movement and basing your analysis on it.
When it comes to RSI- i do always check out for divergence which do have a solid confirmation for possible switch of trend.
Checking out past or histories of patterns is common for you as a trader yet you can make this as a reference but it is bad
to rely and presume that things would happen again because we all know that crypto is really very unpredictable.
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November 20, 2019, 12:16:12 PM
#27
$8300- $8400 has been skipped, it looks like this decline will continue around $7500- $7700.  because I see from a number of indicators it still shows a falling trend.  and if you go up it might still be waiting at the beginning of the year  and I don't think there's good news about bitcoin right now.

Bitcoin may dump in the short run but in the bigger time frame it will rise high and broke its previous records. The problem is that when bitcoin prices start to fall, people become disappointed and never look at the big picture. The bitcoin prices cannot straight go up, there will be a lot of pump and dump in between.
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November 20, 2019, 11:35:49 AM
#26
$8300- $8400 has been skipped, it looks like this decline will continue around $7500- $7700.  because I see from a number of indicators it still shows a falling trend.  and if you go up it might still be waiting at the beginning of the year  and I don't think there's good news about bitcoin right now.
I am not sure if bitcoin will make an ATH again like what it has been happen years ago , bitcoin price continues to fall, the chart says that bitcoin value is falling down unlike what it has been happened on 2016, by next year second quarter I think it will go up again there is a possibility but I have mo assurance on it only trust is all I have.
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November 20, 2019, 10:40:45 AM
#25
$8300- $8400 has been skipped, it looks like this decline will continue around $7500- $7700.  because I see from a number of indicators it still shows a falling trend.  and if you go up it might still be waiting at the beginning of the year  and I don't think there's good news about bitcoin right now.
i see bitcoin price will down again below 7500 - 7700 .   i found first resistance on around $7270 . this is strong support that will tested again as valid support or not.  and the worst scenario  bitcoin price could hit $5700 again which is on this level already be strong /  key support. in chandlestik analisys, there is no reversal sign at all. on big time frame , bitcoin and other coin still in bearish trend.maybe bitcoin price on $5700 will touched again before halving, maybe this next or early next year. we need triger to make bitcoin price still again.
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November 20, 2019, 10:26:27 AM
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we must try to think critically about the chat patterns of the increase and decrease in graphics. because if we know the increase might be the same. but a different year of making the increase could be on a different path. but if indeed it can happen and is true, we will face the best situation of crypto in the future.
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November 20, 2019, 07:07:28 AM
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$8300- $8400 has been skipped, it looks like this decline will continue around $7500- $7700.  because I see from a number of indicators it still shows a falling trend.  and if you go up it might still be waiting at the beginning of the year  and I don't think there's good news about bitcoin right now.
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November 19, 2019, 01:31:15 PM
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Might be a similar pattern last three years ago but it doesn't guarantee that it will repeat itself on what had happened during that time. You still need to treat each pattern as a unique case where you don't need to consider anything about its past movements prior to that pattern, the pattern/formation can still either make or break depending on the supporting indicators such like what you have given which is RSI and others like volume and MACD. It's a good thing that you have recognized the falling wedge pattern now but it's not good that you are analyzing it in a way that you are comparing it's historical price movement and basing your analysis on it.

Maybe you are right but always remember this fractal have a possibility to repeat itself no one know what will happen to bitcoin price in a couple of hours, days, week or months.
Many people are expecting a good price run before the 2020 halving but like what a said no one will know what will happen.

But as a trader would you really bet on that "possibility" to happen or will you base your trade on what the current scenario is telling you? This is what I hate about historical price action comparisons, they always pull out what had happened two to five years ago and say that "because this had happened in the past this will surely happen in the future since they have similar movements" yes candles might have the similar position but does it tell everything? Of course not you still need consider what the chart is telling you now than what the chart has told you in the past.
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November 19, 2019, 05:35:17 AM
#21
I like to believe that your analysis will happen but at the same time I also have to get myself ready for a possible big dump.
It's been a while since we see a good market movement for BTC that's why people are longing for another bull run to arrive and hopefully it will happen so soon.

If btc will touch $12, 000, well and good, it could happen just like what it did this year where it touched $13,000, we are not far from now, if BTC did it from $3K+, it could certainly make it from $8K + .
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November 19, 2019, 03:41:30 AM
#20
From a close observation, I came to know a very similar pattern of both year for this time, that's why I also assumed that November and December would be the most suitable time to invest and trade in this platform, not only that but also Bitcoin price will automatically increase when this time comes, From my joining to this platform, I have a belief that Bitcoin price will increase at an increasing rate but 2017 was a mystery, Basically, people want Bitcoin value as like as 2017 but it's not the base of this platform, definitely it was a flook, but the price will increase for sure, so 2020 will be the most exciting year.
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November 18, 2019, 09:23:51 PM
#19
I at least believe that history can sometimes be the same in previous years, but here I am inclined to support $7700 which is very strong because what I see from the Parabolic SAR indicator still shows a falling trend in the 1D time frame.
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November 18, 2019, 06:09:46 PM
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Might be a similar pattern last three years ago but it doesn't guarantee that it will repeat itself on what had happened during that time. You still need to treat each pattern as a unique case where you don't need to consider anything about its past movements prior to that pattern, the pattern/formation can still either make or break depending on the supporting indicators such like what you have given which is RSI and others like volume and MACD. It's a good thing that you have recognized the falling wedge pattern now but it's not good that you are analyzing it in a way that you are comparing it's historical price movement and basing your analysis on it.

Maybe you are right but always remember this fractal have a possibility to repeat itself no one know what will happen to bitcoin price in a couple of hours, days, week or months.
Many people are expecting a good price run before the 2020 halving but like what a said no one will know what will happen.
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November 18, 2019, 05:39:01 PM
#17
The same pattern for 2016 with 2019
First form an ascending triangle then fall and sideways rise up to a few percent and now form a falling wedge pattern
I think support of $ 8300- $ 8400 is very strong, we will probably touch $ 12000 soon .. !!
What do you think..?
I do not think so. TA does not work here with this logic. Candles in the crypto sphere are more prone to fundamental news. Psychology works better here. For example, the expected halving for next year may be the exact opposite of TA, but make sure that halving will be superior. TA may be useful in short term, but in long term you will not get satisfying results.
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November 18, 2019, 03:06:04 PM
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Might be a similar pattern last three years ago but it doesn't guarantee that it will repeat itself on what had happened during that time. You still need to treat each pattern as a unique case where you don't need to consider anything about its past movements prior to that pattern, the pattern/formation can still either make or break depending on the supporting indicators such like what you have given which is RSI and others like volume and MACD. It's a good thing that you have recognized the falling wedge pattern now but it's not good that you are analyzing it in a way that you are comparing it's historical price movement and basing your analysis on it.
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November 18, 2019, 01:09:16 PM
#15
I have always talked about the similarities of the increases before but nobody listens to me. I feel like the 2017 increase in price may actually happen in 2020, sure when 2020 looks similar to 2017 we will know that 2016 will be like 2019 as well because when bitcoin goes up really high it is apparent one year before but we never actually know until it happens because we are afraid. I am not gonna lie I have stashed as much bitcoins as I can in the side, it is above 5k now and I am contributing to it every month because I feel like 2020 will be an amazing year.

So far I even made a small tiny profit because most of my purchases were around 7k levels and I even sold some at 10k levels and bought back so right now I have a profit but I won't sell until late 2020.
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November 18, 2019, 12:46:25 PM
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it's very good for technical analysis. and have something in common in 2016. If it does, we will see an increase in December and January. but we also cannot be sure that it is strong support. because in crypto currencies, anything can happen. I hope this support is strong. and re-form the rising pattern until halving is finished and makes the pump high like in 2017.

I doubt that we will see a pump similar to 2017 after the block halving, it will take months or even years if we are going to see another massive pump.

I am sure that it will happen again after a long time, 5 years or more. Block halving is a great factor for saying it so, we might see a massive pump again in 3 to 5 years at least. But bear in mind that bitcoin is not the only cryptocurrency we can enjoy with, there tons of crypto to play with the market, Diverse as they said.


But it's good to see the comparison chart, at least we have something to look at and people will find reason to invest on bitcoin because of the supposedly similarity between the two. But the moral here is that despite some similarity there could be a lot of difference and that the pump might not actually happen in 2020 but in the following years to come.
As a matter of fact people don't really seem to base on charts but on the current trends, and they will just know it afterwards. Investing isn't that hard but the courage of investing is pretty hard to get especially on beginners who is not confident enough to go in the fluctuating market risking their money. What I think the key here is that, don't expect that much or do not be overconfident because of what you have seen online. Just be chill and positive.
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November 18, 2019, 11:45:27 AM
#13
The patterns in the market chart of 2016 and 2019 are really the same, that is why thereis a huge chance that bitcoin having will occur this year of 2019 or in the starting year of 2020, and it that happens bitcoin would reach it's price up to 20k USD again. But a lot of people says that bitcoin will increased it's price even more due to it's popularity that a lot of people are now interested to invest and used bitcoin.
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November 18, 2019, 11:25:38 AM
#12
yes, trading has a pattern that repeats itself, some people learn indicators too by understanding previous patterns, I also hope prices will go up like in 2017, but we also need to be vigilant because there is no analysis that is 100% accurate.
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November 18, 2019, 09:00:48 AM
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The charts might look similar but the fundamental events are not. I was around back in 2016 and what caused that huge spike in Aug was the Bitfinex hack. There was like 120K BTC stolen (that is 120,000 BTC and not $120,000USD) and it caused a huge 20% dip in the markets. Bitfinex was huge back in 2016.

With the 2019 chart of $10K breaking, was there an actual event why it crashed? No there wasn't. The Bakkt was launched a few days prior and it was a positive event and not negative. It was mostly a technical pattern that happened because the $9K was strong support and it broke and caused massive liquidations.

So its a similar chart but different scenario and it might or might not exactly play out how you want it described.
Right! Looking at charts or shall we say totally dependent on it wont really be that good since we havent still see yet on the other part or side of the story.
As you elaborate where comparing of events on such timeframe which we can say that they are really totally different.We might see common patterns but doesnt
mean that they would do the same thing on next years to come.Technicals arent really that precise to rely on but its much better than having than no analysis at all.
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November 18, 2019, 08:12:14 AM
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it's very good for technical analysis. and have something in common in 2016. If it does, we will see an increase in December and January. but we also cannot be sure that it is strong support. because in crypto currencies, anything can happen. I hope this support is strong. and re-form the rising pattern until halving is finished and makes the pump high like in 2017.

I doubt that we will see a pump similar to 2017 after the block halving, it will take months or even years if we are going to see another massive pump.

But it's good to see the comparison chart, at least we have something to look at and people will find reason to invest on bitcoin because of the supposedly similarity between the two. But the moral here is that despite some similarity there could be a lot of difference and that the pump might not actually happen in 2020 but in the following years to come.
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November 18, 2019, 04:38:15 AM
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it's very good for technical analysis. and have something in common in 2016. If it does, we will see an increase in December and January. but we also cannot be sure that it is strong support. because in crypto currencies, anything can happen. I hope this support is strong. and re-form the rising pattern until halving is finished and makes the pump high like in 2017.
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November 18, 2019, 03:54:45 AM
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On the chart, in 2016, November saw a sharp increase in bitcoin. In November this year, the development of bitcoin prices was not so fast. despite their similarities, I think 2019 will have a slightly longer time to make a high increase. if this is in accordance with my speculations, then the price of bitcoin can go up like November 2016 in December or early 2020 to come.
Yes , on November that year shows the bitcoin on its bull trap season, in this year it is hard to say that  in the following weeks or months bitcoin will began to be like that again. It is slowly going up now but most of the days we can see that it goes down trend. In order for us to have a conclusion that we will obtain a chart like that again it needed to be continously go upward , let see for the following days it is really a bull trap season now.
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November 18, 2019, 03:07:45 AM
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On the chart, in 2016, November saw a sharp increase in bitcoin. In November this year, the development of bitcoin prices was not so fast. despite their similarities, I think 2019 will have a slightly longer time to make a high increase. if this is in accordance with my speculations, then the price of bitcoin can go up like November 2016 in December or early 2020 to come.
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November 18, 2019, 02:51:58 AM
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One thing to add though is that this market is fairly young, you can even say that we are still in the infancy stage so the data is small, that we can't even compare it and make a positive conclusions. The charts might look similar but there are a lot of difference, the cycles, the fundamentals, the players around, institutional money, investors growing etc. etc. One thing that remains constant here is the manner the price is being manipulated from behind by the whales though. We have to look at how this playa' will turn the market around at the end of this year and see if $12,000 can be reach again.
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November 18, 2019, 12:38:25 AM
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The charts might look similar but the fundamental events are not. I was around back in 2016 and what caused that huge spike in Aug was the Bitfinex hack. There was like 120K BTC stolen (that is 120,000 BTC and not $120,000USD) and it caused a huge 20% dip in the markets. Bitfinex was huge back in 2016.

With the 2019 chart of $10K breaking, was there an actual event why it crashed? No there wasn't. The Bakkt was launched a few days prior and it was a positive event and not negative. It was mostly a technical pattern that happened because the $9K was strong support and it broke and caused massive liquidations.

So its a similar chart but different scenario and it might or might not exactly play out how you want it described.
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November 18, 2019, 12:11:27 AM
#4
charts never lie, that's what I always believe, and after seeing both of your charts, I'm very sure, soon BTC will make a big jump,
at least the beginning of early 2020 is the leap if December does not occur.
but if we look at BTC trends today, it's been 3 months that BTC has experienced a correction, BTC should have experienced a pump in December.
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November 17, 2019, 11:24:12 PM
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"Past performance is not an indicator of future results"

One thing that TA can't sort of "predict" or at least foresee is people's emotions and opinions on a specific asset. Note that "Bitcoin" wasn't even that much of a household name in 2016; compared to today, whereas a lot of people has already heard of bitcoin(regardless if they know what it's for or not) and a good number of people lost money by buying at the peak and selling when it dropped significantly, leaving a bad taste on people's mouths. Compared to 2016-2017, I personally think that it will take a lot more than hype today to make bitcoin rise to it's highs.
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November 17, 2019, 11:20:52 PM
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From this past week bitcoin has continued to fall I didn't know it would last between $ 8.3k-8.4k but there is a lot of speculation that bitcoin will be bearish to $ 7.5k but I still doubt the analysis technique, to reach $ 12k and I think this will begin in early 2020.
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November 17, 2019, 09:02:28 PM
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The same pattern for 2016 with 2019
First form an ascending triangle then fall and sideways rise up to a few percent and now form a falling wedge pattern
I think support of $ 8300- $ 8400 is very strong, we will probably touch $ 12000 soon .. !!
What do you think..?
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