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legendary
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May 06, 2020, 05:00:00 AM
#33
We need strong technical analysis. Chasing the bull run wis a tricjy strategy and we can't really say if it's really a bull or a bull trap.
I consider it to be a form of trading, sort of like a reverse shorting of the market.
And to trade using any strategy one needs good technical and fundamental analysis of the market in order to read it's movement and each also comes with its fair share of risks and would surely not work every time. Make sure to use the basics of trading:
•Practice, do not dabble into it.
•Invest what you can afford to lose.
•Manage your capital.



This topic has been extensively discussed, so I'll be locking it now to prevent hackneyed replies. I may bump it in the future if any new info pops up. Thanks for all the contributions.
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May 05, 2020, 08:29:14 PM
#32
What i am afraid of is that "reversal" you are saying. Sometimes, when we chase the peak the other way or the opposite way goes around and that will make us being deficit at the end. But yeah we can try that strategy since we still have one option if reversal happens. And that is to hold.
 
 We need strong technical analysis. Chasing the bull run wis a tricjy strategy and we can't really say if it's really a bull or a bull trap.
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May 05, 2020, 04:06:39 PM
#31

What did you think of this strategy?

To be honest, the market haven't seen any tangible bull run since the last ones that happened in 2017/2018. So basically, anyone that is using this strategy is subjected to a hige loss and account burn. The market is highly unpredictable and in bearish condition like this, fomoing on a coin is a bad thing to do. The fact still remains and it's still working, buy the rumour, sell the news
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May 05, 2020, 03:16:10 PM
#30
What I always say to those who called themselves expert in trade, many of these categories are  those who chase after bullrun. The bullrun always come with new investors and mano these investors are the ones use for the sacrifice (dumping ground) during the season of the bullrun. Although, some traders act on a short-term holdings when the bullrun is activated because of the fear of the unknown. So, chasing after bullrun has it negative part on new investors. I have noticed that, after bullrun many are left with coins while the price get dumped.
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May 05, 2020, 03:00:12 PM
#29
Usually, many new investors will jump into the market when the prices started to move high and that probably because they are thinking that it is a continuous movement. I supposed to think that also before but knowing the volatility and unpredictable market I have to step down. 
And that was unfortunate enough that these newcomers have usually fallen into the bull trap. Then I have to give hope that they could realize it before sundown because I'm afraid if FOMO might start.
Once a new spike in the market price happens, everyone will already expect that bull run will next to happen and that market price will continue to surge. But there is no guarantee that this will really happen because a new bull trap may occur instead of bull run. So it would still be  a good move if you start buying at a dip price and sell it when the price is already high.
It is uncertain whether this spike will surprise or not because until now bitcoin is still stuck at $ 9,000 and it is usually already a high spike after reaching the halving target again.
I think volatility is still high but still there is no change but I buy a little from now and will wait for the next week how will the reaction later if this will surprise us? FOMO is not a problem for me at this time because my prediction is strong at halving.
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May 05, 2020, 02:50:51 PM
#28
Chasing the bull run can lead you to get trapped by manipulations. Cheesy

So its always good to go for the better over the fastest, you may get returns 7/10 while following this strategy but the remaining 3 is still dangerous which might result into complete loss of your capital.
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May 05, 2020, 02:11:01 PM
#27
I had used this strategy and the only problem I face was that it backfires when the price drop considerably. It affect the ETHbull I was trading and my profit drop hard. Since then I have not been able to recover and I'm hoping the halving makes the price to go wide and I'm in profit again
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May 05, 2020, 04:06:03 AM
#26
These runs tend to change directions suddenly, so it's always best to plan ahead before making a rush decision when you see a growth on the market. Either way use of some tools like investing.com makes you be able to see ahead and base your decisions on the data analysis.
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May 05, 2020, 01:35:57 AM
#25
Usually, many new investors will jump into the market when the prices started to move high and that probably because they are thinking that it is a continuous movement. I supposed to think that also before but knowing the volatility and unpredictable market I have to step down. 
And that was unfortunate enough that these newcomers have usually fallen into the bull trap. Then I have to give hope that they could realize it before sundown because I'm afraid if FOMO might start.
Once a new spike in the market price happens, everyone will already expect that bull run will next to happen and that market price will continue to surge. But there is no guarantee that this will really happen because a new bull trap may occur instead of bull run. So it would still be  a good move if you start buying at a dip price and sell it when the price is already high.
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May 04, 2020, 10:33:10 PM
#24
Usually, many new investors will jump into the market when the prices started to move high and that probably because they are thinking that it is a continuous movement. I supposed to think that also before but knowing the volatility and unpredictable market I have to step down.  
And that was unfortunate enough that these newcomers have usually fallen into the bull trap. Then I have to give hope that they could realize it before sundown because I'm afraid if FOMO might start.
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May 04, 2020, 09:32:52 PM
#23
During the period bitcoin flash crash to about $3,500, I had not enough money then because of family needs I needed to meet. Currently what I do is to chase the bull run, when bitcoin drops momentarily, I know people are taking profit, I buy and wait for upward trend to sell. With this strategy howbeit risky, I made more than 60% profit for a newbie friend trading DGB.
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May 04, 2020, 06:58:26 PM
#22
When we are talking about a 2 trillion give away from the government, it is obvious that some of it will go to stocks. Plus, there must have been a lot of rich people who just thought there is no way they are going to pass up on that price and just went hard on stocks as well.
They are bailing out the stocks too, because if the stocks looks bad, it's a mirror and people will think that the economy looks bad.
I don't know if we can still trust them, they even say that they will never ran out of cash and that statement alone could cause some worries to those who really understand the financial system and how it works. We will not feel it now but in the future this will all slowly reflect to our economy which people will pay for this, so I guess investing now in crypto or in bitcoin particularly is a good strategy to hedge the fall of fiat.
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May 04, 2020, 01:49:49 PM
#21
People do put in a lot of money into stocks because a lot of people got free money during this period. If there was no give always from the government they wouldn't do this kind of stuff at all, however since they got free money, if you do not really need it, what else are you going to do with it? Some people really need it and spend it to survive, some people do not need it so they spend it on new phones or tv's and all that stuff, and some people are smart and not need it so they spend it on stocks.

When we are talking about a 2 trillion give away from the government, it is obvious that some of it will go to stocks. Plus, there must have been a lot of rich people who just thought there is no way they are going to pass up on that price and just went hard on stocks as well.
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May 04, 2020, 08:29:15 AM
#20
The general rule is that the price goes against the expectations, so if you see investors running away from something, then this may be the best time to buy at the lowest possible price. Although I cannot confirm whether or not the price will rise.
Many people expect the price to rise during the second quarter of this year, but the advice may not be good as a collapse could happen at any time.
Therefore, I do not think that the strategy of "chasing a bull" is successful when the repetitions are large, it may succeed one or two times, but it will definitely lose in the hundredth time.

Is this why investors are pouring money into stocks instead of bitcoin at the moment? I mean if we look at the news of numbers economy looks really really bad and banks and WTO and IMF are singing in the same chorus but people are putting more not less money into stocks.

Should we be waiting for bitcoin news to be again bad before going in?

Some investors are indeed pouring a lot of money in stocks, at least for those who can afford to buy at this dire situation. Stocks are at a very low level, once It bounces back, then It will generate a lot of profit.
The same goes for Bitcoin when It dropped down hard during the rise of pandemic.
I'm afraid there's no more bad news that'll pull Bitcoin's price atm. specially now that the block halving is approaching.
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May 04, 2020, 04:03:32 AM
#19
Chasing the bull run will not be a good idea, especially for people who don't know how to trade with the right. Besides of the chance to buy bitcoin or other coins at a higher price, you will feel stress to wait for the price to back to the price you buy because it will need some time before the price can back. The bull trap will fall behind the price because no one will know when the price will stop to rise. So if you want to chase the bull run, you need to have a good response with the market so you can move fast.
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May 04, 2020, 03:58:53 AM
#18
The general rule is that the price goes against the expectations, so if you see investors running away from something, then this may be the best time to buy at the lowest possible price. Although I cannot confirm whether or not the price will rise.
Many people expect the price to rise during the second quarter of this year, but the advice may not be good as a collapse could happen at any time.
Therefore, I do not think that the strategy of "chasing a bull" is successful when the repetitions are large, it may succeed one or two times, but it will definitely lose in the hundredth time.

Is this why investors are pouring money into stocks instead of bitcoin at the moment? I mean if we look at the news of numbers economy looks really really bad and banks and WTO and IMF are singing in the same chorus but people are putting more not less money into stocks.

Should we be waiting for bitcoin news to be again bad before going in?
legendary
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May 04, 2020, 02:10:35 AM
#17
Honestly that is definitely the worst thing that could anyone do. Right now a lot of people are buying because the price increased, they should have bought when it was low. You should try to buy low and sell high. Some people really just thinks there is a FOMO increase and they buy in because they are afraid of missing out.

I understand the feeling, because a lot of people basically think when it goes up, it will continue to go up, when it goes down it will continue go down. That is not like that, the reality is price goes down so it goes up, it goes up so it can go down. With that being said I understand people who buy up when price goes high, that is why I really think that if you buy high and wait, you could still make money, just not too much and it may take some time.
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May 03, 2020, 09:13:53 AM
#16
Bullrun will come in a moment of time, yet we don't know when that is chasing into it will make no sense at all. I know that we all are wanting to make it happen again but somehow we don't have control over the market and this makes a reason not to think either. Besides, the Bullrun happen last 2017 is also an unexpected thing to see and that it surprised everyone. Think that the coming Bullrun will show the same, it all been still surprising.
We can't be expert in the market nor to see what is coming...shouldn't chase it but rather to keep waiting.
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May 03, 2020, 08:47:52 AM
#15
"What price is best to buy at?" and, "What price is best to sell at?" being at the top of the list.

When it comes to investing (in any asset) the ideal strategy would be; buying at the bottom and selling at the top.
Yeah, those are questions asked by pretty much all investors--and it's the whole key to investing, i.e., when to get in and when to get out.  Only once in my lifetime did I see the perfect buy-in opportunity, and it was in the stock market in 2008-09 when the Dow had crashed to something like 6000.  I was absolutely sure that the drop in value represented "the bottom"--and I was right.  Unfortunately I was already in the market at the time and didn't have a lot of extra funds to invest more.

As far as crypto is concerned right now, I don't think it's necessarily a bad idea to chase this little bull run we're having.  At the very least it could offer you a chance to make some short-term profits.  I'm just not convinced this is the start of a bigger movement upward.
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May 03, 2020, 08:07:42 AM
#14
I guess this strategy only works if you have lots of capital to begin with, so probably most whales do this kind of thing, called manipulation. But for average joe like the majority of us, the only way to make huge profit is to buy during bottom, i.e. $3200 last year and $3800 last March, during the crash.

And if whales are during this kind of strategy, pumping the market to make more profit, then obviously they will also cause the dump and sell off, rinse and repeat. So it will be very difficult for a mere casual trader to ride those waves. So it's better not to chase the bull run, but be prefer to buy during market dips.
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May 03, 2020, 06:49:41 AM
#13
There's no need to chase the bull run, if we miss this one, we can still experience another bull run and after the bull run, price might go down so that gives as an opportunity to rise. Those who chase the bull run will just regret in the end because they got FOMOd and when the price dump, they will do panic as well, so it's really up to us now if we like to regret or just be patient while waiting for another opportunity.

in fact, what we are seeing now is not already confirm as a bull run as it could be a bull trap.
legendary
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May 03, 2020, 06:46:59 AM
#12
Chasing anything at wherever may end up in disasters Wink Grin Grin.

Instead of chasing, we must focus on catching the opportunities. I mean chasing may lead to buying at higher prices but catching at dips will save by not needing to pay excess money which might have occurred due to FOMO.
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This is useful but for sure a lot of people will not do this since some people out there want easy money like they want to become a millionaire in just a day. That's why there are also a lot of people who lose a lot when entering in cryptocurrency especially in times like these, the FOMO is leading them to lose but there are lot of people there got luck and made some money even they FOMO.
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May 03, 2020, 06:08:45 AM
#11
Instead of chasing, we must focus on catching the opportunities. I mean chasing may lead to buying at higher prices but catching at dips will save by not needing to pay excess money which might have occurred due to FOMO.
Different traders adopt different strategies, admittedly the safest investment option is buying at the bottom and selling at the top (or close to it). This however takes a lot of patience and some weak hands may end up selling at a loss should the market go red. Chasing the bull run requires less patience, but more technical analysis and a higher risk.

Therefore, we should always think fast and some mix of intuition if you do tend to buy on a rising market.Always target out for corresponding target then make yourself out if you are gaining.

It do always have the risk so it will all vary on how you deal with moving prices.

I agree it needs quick action to execute, i.e, being a fast follower of a trend. It has a higher risk and less reward than hodling for the long term, but it's a rinse and repeat strategy.
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May 02, 2020, 05:21:00 PM
#10
Chasing anything at wherever may end up in disasters Wink Grin Grin.

Instead of chasing, we must focus on catching the opportunities. I mean chasing may lead to buying at higher prices but catching at dips will save by not needing to pay excess money which might have occurred due to FOMO.

Chasing the bull run do happen commonly as people over react due to FOMO. They want to make profits and they do not want to miss one good (assumed) opportunity. When you keep your nerves down and wait for the dips to happen then you can easily get into the FOMO but on another wave. If we notice all the bull run do happen in multiple waves. Due to upcoming bitcoin halving, we are going to have strong bull run but definitely this time also bull run will happen in multiple waves.

So, instead of chasing the prices, we must focus on buying at dips and definitely we may get chances to make huge profits if we are ready to hold for next 9 to 15 months.
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May 02, 2020, 04:03:16 PM
#9

Consider looking at the chart before you say you are chasing a trade. The price is the cause of FOMO and indicators also telling it could go up. Buy today and then consider dumping after the halving. It may take several months before the market seeks more supply of the coins and that's when the price really will start to pump up.  Currently, the RSI tells us It's not yet overbought.

Chase your dreams  Lips sealed
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May 02, 2020, 03:59:01 PM
#8
In my opinion you have to see the history prices in the old charts and there you can see that every after halving bitcoin start a long 'bull run' . I think this is the best way to get some profit and enter in crypto world
But people arent really that patient to wait up for that time.We can really able to see if we do zoom out charts in talks of long term aspects but majority wont tend to watch it or do recognize thats why they do go
for the short time period with specific short term analysis.Chasing bull runs or buying when the market is going up is a common mistake but we dont actually know if the price will continue or would dump
int that particular time because we know on how wavy this market is where anytime it either go or break towards our expectation.Just remember on thing like you shouldnt really be caught by fomo because
if you do then you would really end up on holding.
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May 02, 2020, 11:11:29 AM
#7
To chase the bullrun is to buy when the market spikes up enough to cause a FOMO and provide sufficient support for even greater prices. Such an investor would jump into the market at the start of a bullrun, to ride the waves all the way up. There are some pros and cons to this strategy;
•It typically requires less hodling time, than a long term investment, but;
•The market is unpredictable; a spike in the price does not always signify a bull run, and the investor is at the risk of experiencing a reversal in the market and seeing his assets lose value.
In short, if you look for cashes out in quicker duration then the chances to get stuck is more. Still, it is purely depending on the sustaining level of market fluctuations in bullish trend. If your technical analysis supports you to buy at current levels for the protection of upcoming another rally then you can risk by chasing the bulls. Market is always unpredictable hence anything may happen; trailing stoploss will help on the cases of unexpected sudden market reversal.

Personally I never suggest anyone to enter when market is showing raid movements like 20% changes in last 24hrs or even in 48hrs. It is always easier to fish with no tides. At the same time, buying is recommended after a pullback which happens as a part of rapid rally; it is like buying at dips with expectation of continuation of domination of bulls Wink.
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May 02, 2020, 11:10:24 AM
#6
I don't think chasing the bull run will be easy because you can buy bitcoin at the high price but then the price can down after you buy. If you want to chase the bull run, you need to sell fast after the price can increase higher than the price you buy. But if I look at what my friends did, they don't sell the bitcoin if the price rises more than the purchased price because they want to sell at another higher price. That will be a mistake if they still do that because we don't know if the price can increase more or not.

As long as you can sell right away when the price rises higher, you can make a profit, and you can wait for another dump price that will happen in the next minute or hours. I don't try to chase the bull run because I already got a bad experience before which make me buy bitcoin at a high price, and that makes me wait for some time before I can sell the bitcoin.

I prefer to buy if the red candle appears, and I will try to place the order buy at number 4-5 from the order buy, and if that is filled, I will wait for a while, and not sell in a rush. I think it is better to sell and take 1% for the profit than to chase the bull run because I cannot always get the right time to buy and sell bitcoin.
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May 02, 2020, 10:58:27 AM
#5
I guess we don't need  to chase the bull run anymore, it will come at the end of the halving after a few months. There is nothing to invest into right now, I mean if you are a typical investor and looking for an asset to invest right now you will not choose stock obviously, so you'll look for a developing one amidst the pandemic that we have. There is maybe a bull trap, but don't set aside the fact that we are getting a supply cut this year so we should think that the price pump is relative to that event. If you want a sure profit just hold, if you want a bigger one trade with leverage.
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May 02, 2020, 09:28:36 AM
#4
Bull trap is always there and thats why it isnt really easy to make decisions on buying when the market is moving up but our minds do really have that thinking that this might be the bull run.

Market is already been unpredictable and as a human, we cant really avoid not to think that we might missing out the possible bull run if we do let ourselves wait for lower prospected price.

Therefore, we should always think fast and some mix of intuition if you do tend to buy on a rising market.Always target out for corresponding target then make yourself out if you are gaining.

It do always have the risk so it will all vary on how you deal with moving prices.
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May 02, 2020, 09:21:08 AM
#3
Many times it is not a good businesse idea to follow what majority is doing. That could be a trap. The majority bid price maybe a trap because it looks that price is favouring that direction but in the proper aspect, it won't stay long for the wave to shift to the other direction that it will last a longer time.
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May 02, 2020, 08:50:53 AM
#2
The general rule is that the price goes against the expectations, so if you see investors running away from something, then this may be the best time to buy at the lowest possible price. Although I cannot confirm whether or not the price will rise.
Many people expect the price to rise during the second quarter of this year, but the advice may not be good as a collapse could happen at any time.
Therefore, I do not think that the strategy of "chasing a bull" is successful when the repetitions are large, it may succeed one or two times, but it will definitely lose in the hundredth time.
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May 02, 2020, 05:18:14 AM
#1
Over the last couple of days the market price of Bitcoin has risen by over 20%, carrying some altcoins along with it; Ethereum, XRP, Dogecoin and some other currencies also spiked up in price. With the upcoming halving and the general economic situation, there appears to be a general bullish sentiment about Bitcoin, and this is attracting a lot of investors into the crypto space. As a new investor you are faced with a number of questions; "What price is best to buy at?" and, "What price is best to sell at?" being at the top of the list.

When it comes to investing (in any asset) the ideal strategy would be; buying at the bottom and selling at the top. With the very high volatility in Bitcoin, those figures could be very wide apart. As at early 2019, the value of 1BTC was as low as $3400, as an investor who accumulated at that price, your portfolio would have registered an increase of over 160% in just over a year and still a lot of capacity to grow more. But for those who learnt about Bitcoin due to the activity caused by the spike in the price, there is still an opportunity to get into the market and profit.

Chasing the bull run
To chase the bullrun is to buy when the market spikes up enough to cause a FOMO and provide sufficient support for even greater prices. Such an investor would jump into the market at the start of a bullrun, to ride the waves all the way up. There are some pros and cons to this strategy;
•It typically requires less hodling time, than a long term investment, but;
•The market is unpredictable; a spike in the price does not always signify a bull run, and the investor is at the risk of experiencing a reversal in the market and seeing his assets lose value.

What did you think of this strategy?
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