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Topic: Chat Control by the EU (Read 129 times)

legendary
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February 10, 2023, 08:27:37 PM
#8
I will always support every genuine effort by the government to protect children from vices such as pornography, cyberbullying, and others. In my country, there seems to be an increase in the rate of these vices promoted by the internet.
But to hide behind this child protection to invade privacy and control the lives of people is not acceptable. But I am sure this proposal will fail because it is not all EU commissioners that will fall into the trap of Ylva Johansson. But if this bill goes through, which is unlikely, these leaders have finally succeeded in turning humans into robots.

Also, some good parenting in this XXI century could help children not to fall victim of those vices.
I have gotten the impression politicians believe they can make parenting better just by encoding some laws about children protection, and while it could certainly help, it does not go to the root of the problem.

I recall back when internet was a new thing,my parents would monitor my activity and try to educate me on the things I am not supposed to do on the computer, nowadays parents let their toddlers to browse Tiktok, youtube and Instagram unsupervised.
hero member
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February 10, 2023, 03:56:14 AM
#7
I will always support every genuine effort by the government to protect children from vices such as pornography, cyberbullying, and others. In my country, there seems to be an increase in the rate of these vices promoted by the internet.
But to hide behind this child protection to invade privacy and control the lives of people is not acceptable. But I am sure this proposal will fail because it is not all EU commissioners that will fall into the trap of Ylva Johansson. But if this bill goes through, which is unlikely, these leaders have finally succeeded in turning humans into robots.
legendary
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February 09, 2023, 08:36:48 PM
#6
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I don't think you even understand the article. It is meaningless for people to work thoroughly on Signal or any E2E messaging platform if it is backdoored.

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Yes, is there any problem? Why do you reduce the substance of the proposal simply because the one who resonates the proposal is a for profit company?

Signal is allegedly open source, so in theory anyone can check whether it has a back door or not. Actually, in the case of Signal, the government of the United States has asked Signal through court documents to hand over information about their users. Signal has responded that they allegedly have nothing to give to the government, since chats are encrypted. The only they could provide would be the phone number of users, but nothing at all about their chats.

Read a bit about it here:

https://signal.org/bigbrother/central-california-grand-jury/



I am just a little bit more careful if news about how wonderful Tomatoes are is brought to me by a tomato farmer.


 
legendary
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February 08, 2023, 03:52:13 PM
#5
Here is the start of removing all chat control... NOSTR.


How NOSTR Will Change the World of Privacy



https://www.theorganicprepper.com/nostr/
Bitcoin users have already flocked to it en masse. It has been the subject of constant raving from Edward Snowden. The former CEO and founder of Twitter, Jack Dorsey, is participating. It's being heralded as the replacement for Twitter and Instagram, but some industry insiders predict it'll destroy both. 

Although it's too early to tell if NOSTR can achieve all of that, one thing it won't be is another social networking platform (if only because it's not even a platform). Read on to learn more and find out what NOSTR is and why has the potential to transform interpersonal relationships and communication. 

What's NOSTR?

It's short for "Notes and Other Stuff Transmitted by Relays." It's officially described as "a decentralized network built on cryptographic keypairs that is not peer-to-peer." None of that soup of words does much to describe NOSTR, and the concept may take some time to sink in for those used to traditional social media.

However, once you do, NOSTR's potential is obvious.

It is not a platform. It doesn't have a server, a fancy glass office building full of nerds playing ping-pong and bingeing on free chai lattes, slick marketers, or even a CEO. You don't really sign up for a NOSTR account and don't look for a NOSTR app because there isn't one available in the stores.

NOSTR is a protocol, or more precisely, a decentralized base-level protocol, that allows anyone to build nearly whatever they like, including a chat room, a social media platform, an interactive game, and a news site.

A developer by the name of fiatjaf designed and coded NOSTR in 2020 as a discrete, open-source, niche substitute for both Twitter and Mastodon. NOSTR is powered and distributed through decentralized platforms and apps, or "clients," in contrast to conventional social media.

The excitement and expectations that followed Elon Musk's acquisition of Twitter are gradually fading.

Even if the blue bird's platform may now function better, users are beginning to realize the fact that it's still largely the same Twitter. This is due to the fact that centralized, server-based social media is always open to outside manipulation. It can be hacked, compromised, suppressed, tampered with, co-opted, or censored. Or purchased, as the Twitter transaction has demonstrated.
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legendary
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February 05, 2023, 03:04:28 AM
#4
That is outrageous. I barely heard this proposal, but it is a massive blow for a private spaces concept. The consequence of implementing such a system should be regarded as a way of authoritarian act. This kind of technological implementation is prone and most likely slipped away from its intention. In fact, it completely removes privacy and safety for the sake of "children's protection."

News like these ones are the ones that make me wish more people were into applications that were meant to be used to protect privacy like Signal and also got rid of their Google keyboard.

I don't think you even understand the article. It is meaningless for people to work thoroughly on Signal or any E2E messaging platform if it is backdoored.


Also, am I getting this wrong or is this news brought to us by a VPN provider?
I don't mind getting informed but this kind of information would be obviously beneficial for a company that profits from alleged privacy keeping.

Yes, is there any problem? Why do you reduce the substance of the proposal simply because the one who resonates the proposal is a for profit company?
legendary
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February 04, 2023, 07:59:15 PM
#3
News like these ones are the ones that make me wish more people were into applications that were meant to be used to protect privacy like Signal and also got rid of their Google keyboard.

If this is real then it is another reason to hold our private keys even tighter against our chests...

Also, am I getting this wrong or is this news brought to us by a VPN provider?
I don't mind getting informed but this kind of information would be obviously beneficial for a company that profits from alleged privacy keeping.
legendary
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February 04, 2023, 05:30:02 PM
#2
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What do you think about this? In the name of "child protection" they want to gain as much control as possible. This is terrible!
I think that it's just a proposal and there are several institutions in EU that can make them. Making them doesn't mean that they would go trough. There are many different voices in EU and obviously not everyone is supporting this. I believe that there's no such thing as anonymity in the future when it comes to money, but when it comes to other privacy issues, they are considered as human right in EU. So i don't believe that this level of surveillance dystopia would go trough.

Obviously people need to be aware so that they can speak about their concerns with their countries representatives.
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February 03, 2023, 12:06:23 PM
#1
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The European Commission is currently in the process of enacting a law called Chat control. If the law goes into effect, it will mean that all EU citizens' communications will be monitored and listened to.

This text was originally published as a debate article in the Swedish newspaper Svenska Dagbladet and it calls on Swedish politicians to vote against the law proposal. In order for the law to not become reality, more countries need to vote against it. Therefore, we encourage journalists and citizens in all EU countries to question their governments and urge them to vote no.

Right now, the EU Commission is intensely working on a legislative proposal that would monitor and audit the communication of all European Union citizens. The regulation is called Chat Control, and it really does include all types of communication. This means that all of your phone calls, video calls, text messages, every single line that you write in all kinds of messaging apps (including encrypted services), your e-mails — yes, all of this — can be filtered out in real time and flagged for a more in-depth review. This also applies to images and videos saved in cloud services. Basically, everything you do with your smartphone. In other words, your personal life will be fully exposed to government scrutiny. So, why is it that almost no one is talking about this?

These types of legislative proposals that fully affect and encroach on people's lives — the equivalent of which can only be found in totalitarian states like China — should be discussed on every other news broadcast, and column after column should be written about it in editorial pages. The EU Commissioner responsible for this proposal is Ylva Johansson. Why aren't journalists pursuing her? Why don't they demand answers from the government?

When the so-called 'espionage law' was recently implemented, it required an amendment to the Constitution. Such a thing should not be done hastily. A constitutional amendment needs to be approved by two different parliaments in order for journalists to have enough time to raise the issue and give the people a chance to form an opinion and make their voices heard. But what happened to those discussions? At that time, the Swedish association of journalists woke up way too late. The fourth estate is one of our democratic cornerstones, and Chat Control might make its work more difficult in the long run. We hope that this time, journalists will wake up sooner with a terrible vengeance. But time is running out.

The politicians proposing this legislation claim to be doing it for the sake of the children. The purpose of implementing Chat Control is to be able to detect child pornography and child grooming. But is the purported end the reason why we are not discussing the means? At least, that's the impression one gets from Ylva Johansson's rhetoric. When she speaks about this legislative proposal, she only talks about the children, not about the effect this totalitarian surveillance will have on society. She isn't talking about how it will affect people's basic rights or about other more adequate law enforcement measures. Ylva Johansson, why can't you debate the tools and their consequences instead of using the children as your protective shield?

At an EU conference in January, Ylva Johansson said that a court order would be required to carry out surveillance operations. But this legislative proposal isn't designed that way. Either Ylva Johansson, as the EU commissioner in charge of this proposal, is painting a completely inaccurate picture for her EU colleagues, or she has no idea how her proposal is written. She has previously stated that it is possible to carry out this type of mass surveillance while still protecting people's privacy. However, that is just not the way technology works. Ylva Johansson, how can you make a legislative proposal that the UN human rights commissioner has torn to shreds, a proposal that counters the European Convention on Human Rights and the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights? And how can you be sure that such a system will never be used for any other type of surveillance?

When the National Defense Radio Establishment (NDRE) law was implemented in 2008, the Director-General of NDRE, Ingvar Åkesson, wrote that "there is this idea that the NDRE is going to listen to all Swedes' phone calls and read their e-mails and text messages. A disgusting thought. How can so many people believe that a democratically elected parliament would treat its people so badly?"

However, 13 years later, in May 2021, Sweden was found by the European Court of Human Rights to have violated personal privacy due to the NDRE law. The Swedish government was urged to immediately correct these problems of legal uncertainty. Instead, however, the parliament did the exact opposite: they voted to extend the NDRE law in November 2021.

This change in purpose that comes with mass surveillance is a huge problem and should at least be of interest to our journalists. Once a massive system for communication surveillance is put in place, it will be very easy to switch the filter at any given time. It can be switched before you say the word 'constitution'. Journalists who, for example, want to maintain the anonymity of their sources should be very concerned about this.

Let's be very clear here. Simply implementing this legislation in its current state will be a violation of all EU citizens' privacy. These types of AI systems are not very precise and will thus wrongly select family vacation photos from the beach, video calls with online doctors, intimate text messages between partners, and conversations from dating apps. On the one hand, there is a risk of flooding the police with the task of going through all the material, which will steal resources that could be used to chase those who create this type of material. On the other hand, there is the obvious risk that people's most intimate but completely legal images will end up in the wrong hands.

However, the biggest problem isn't the direct consequences; it's what's waiting around the corner. We will start self-censoring ourselves. In the first place, this will concern material that we believe might get caught in this filter. When there is a change in what is mass-monitored, when we can only guess who is monitoring our communications and with what agenda, we will change our behavior based on that. That is how the democratic functions of a society are worn down. If we install these types of back doors, that is the point at which our freedom will slowly slip away. If we don't want to try to close them in a raging storm, we better not open these doors at all.



Sweden is currently serving as chairman of the EU's Council of Ministers, and, in the end, both Sweden's EU parliamentarians and Sweden in the Council of Ministers will vote on the issue. We will send letters to the politicians involved and ask them to vote against this law. And if someone else opens and reads these letters somewhere along the way, that person would violate postal secrecy, which is regulated in Sweden's constitution. This person could then be sentenced to up to two years in prison, a slightly different view of privacy than the one expressed in the Chat Control proposal.

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What do you think about this? In the name of "child protection" they want to gain as much control as possible. This is terrible!
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