Topic: CHAT THREAD FOR ---> Bitcoin Game Changer - Coming to over 10,000 cities across (Read 5506 times)

Sorry to say guys, there is to much red tape involved to get this project up and running.  We were attempting to set up a head up for BTC credit card processing for retail vendors to be able to start accepting BTC with no risk to them, but because of the nature of the laws across the USA and other countries, there is to much red tape involved to get through every loophole to allow all vendors to accept BTC.  Thanks for those who were interested, but this is a no-go for now.

Ok, thanks for that answer! Sad to hear you lost a backer, but good to know you're still active.

We are still working on the project.  We had one of the larger backers leave the project, he passed and his estate removed all investments from all projects out there.  So we are working with less funds.  never the less, we are pushing forward.  There are just a lot of legal BS to make sure we correctly classify so that there will not be anyone using our project who could violate the law in their state or country.

Any news here? Is the project still going?

Once we are completed with the entire project and you hear the spill, if you decide to invest, you are purchasing a local area, sorta like a franchise, without the $10k in fees every year.  As for what you do with the other BTC we recommend starting with, that will be up to you, but this is an investment type business, you will need BTC to make BTC.  There is no scam here, for we are not doing anything for you other than setting you up and backing your branch as far as support.

It's still shady for me, where the direction of my btc if I start to invest? What you do with btc? Can you show a graphic for explanation?

People get rich for a reason.  I have posted over 600 posts ion my life time on this forum. Why would I let a blank space sit there doing nothing when I can make money on it???  Does NASCAR drive their cars around the track with no sponsors??? I have made over $40 for posts I was going to post anyway.  I do not know about you, but I do not throw money away, so why would I leave space opened that someone will pay me for??  Unless you are some millionaire, which I am not, every penny in life counts.  This signature campaign pays my internet bill monthly right now.  Also I use YoBits for my trading with the coins my computer mines while sitting there as a web-server.  Use everything you have to make money.

How do you expect people to take you seriously when you use yobits signature campaing lol.

Sorry I have not responded for a few on this topic.  We have run into some laws that may not allow us to continue in all areas of the USA successfully.  So we are working around these laws and seeing what we can do to continue with the plan.  If you are interested, please go here to post your interest.  We are hoping to move forward here shortly, we just have to make sure all we are doing falls with in the law.

Show interest here:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-game-changer-coming-to-over-10000-cities-across-america-1285276

i am ready to do the business with you , i am from india so can i do this here as i think still in india their is no clear law or tax on bitcoins, so how are you going to deal with your business. investing is not a problem but what is the business details we have to know it.

when ever your plan is ready , inform me i am ready for it if it is of for my country.

I am interested in this project how can i contact you, and which countrys you are supporting, and what is the actual business you are going to start, is it a exchange like buying and selling or gambling. Can you please some clear picture about it, i am from india.

How can I express my interest in this project to recive more information when you are ready?

Does this have something to do with incentivising people to run nodes?  I know the community has been clamoring for this for a while. 

I can understand skepticism, however releasing to much information will allow a larger group to go ahead and take the idea out from under the people.  This is not my first rodeo.  We know that everyone wants to make money from home with a little investment, the problem is that not everyone has a little investment, so we are weeding those people out here.  No other information will be released until we are ready to launch.  The most information we are willing to release is already listed.

I think you're being a little too paranoid about someone doing this (whatever it is) before you and not releasing any information about it. Your method of gathering interest is flawed because you're essentially saying "who's interested in making lots of money from home with a small investment?".  That's basically everyone my friend...  If you want real feedback, you need to tell people what they are doing, what the risk is, and what they can expect from your organization. 

The reason why we are skeptical is because of people like Trendon Shaver, Josh Garza, and Mark Karpeles.

First, I am sorry, but please read through the post before you make comments.  Please read the thread, there is a link to the investment plan on the first post to this thread.
I am going to state this again for anyone who has not read the investment plan and has just skipped to this chat thread with no knowledge of what is going on.  I will make it in larger print so people can see and stop making the same comment over and over again.

We are not asking for any investment at this time.  This is just a feeler to see who is interested in a project we are working on.  If you are interested, please go to the link on the first post of this thread, read the basic information to the project.  If you would like to be part of this project place which cities you would be interested in on that thread.  When the time comes and we are ready to launch, you will be contacted and we will give you the rundown of the project you will be investing in.  If you are interested once we give you all the details, you will be required to pay 2.5 BTC for the buy in for each city location you would like the rights to.  We advise that you have an additional 5 BTC total to help make your business venture grow.

All the basic information is clearly in the posts of these two threads.  There is no scam and no one is asking for anything up front.  We are putting out feelers.  That is what you do when you are small time and would like to launch a large project without finding larger investments.  When you need to find large investors, you have to jack the price up for the end user and take away the opportunity for the small time business owned, which is what we are truing to avoid here.  The reason the project is hush hush is because this is not a new form of technology or anything new to the business world, it is going to be new to Bitcoin and it will be a game changer.  The key is getting all the information and laws in order so that the business will be able to properly function without any down time.

Getting to your comments I quoted above, we have over 740 cities currently ready to be put under contract.  Most of these people already placed funds into an escrow account because they have done business with us before.  Just because I am new to BitcoinTalk  does not mean I am new to business.  The group of people I represent take pride in setting large businesses up by grouping people together to act as a large business without the need of some multi-million dollar investment firm who will require a high profit and in turn will jack up the profit so that small business people can not get involved.  We try to keep the large business with the people and not large corporations.  I do appreciate your comments, but the comments you made show that you clearly did not read through the whole thread and jumped to conclusions, making statements that you can not back up.  Thank you for your interest, but people who show these types of behaviors are the type of people that we avoid because they are more interested in blasting what they do not know instead of finding out answers to questions they may have.

No one will invest in your business if you dont explain what it is and/or offer some insurance for funds (like sort of trusted escrow). For now this thread looks like lousy scam attempt. We dont have clue who you guys are or what you do, we just know that we need to pay for (whatever it is).

This is going to be a fun run and I hope we can get enough people on board here.  We have good plans and this idea and the setup is very simple, which is why we have to keep it under warps until we are ready launch.  If we really wanted to we could just start ourselves and then expand from city to city on our own, we are just hoping to get into many cities at the beginning so that we can encourage city to city business.   

Good  answer!! I'm in then, pending exact details, but it sounds like you guys have a good road-map under wraps.

That is the key, it is a no brainer to do that and a number of investors will do that.  We just offer the 80/20 split in order to bring more people in.  What we will do in the case of an investor is fly someone into that city for 10 to 14 days and they will do all the leg work.  Once it is done, they sit back and collect at the computer.  There is minimal computer work, but it is nothing where it will take you more than 15 minutes per day per city. 

We are trying to set this up so that both the hands on investor and the hands off investor will both be able to profit off of this.  I am more excited as we move forward with it all.

I don't live in a big city and I'm certainly not going to hop on a plane to get a client to sign documents.  Sounds like this isn't for me.   If its a 80/20 split for you to do all the work it sounds like a no brained for people just to pay the initial btc , have you do the work and send me a check.  Unless I'm wrong.

Sorry, we are not releasing quality details at this time, the business idea is still to vulnerable and can be taken with to much information.  I can discuss the spread, but I am not sure what you mean when you say this if you can explain more.

MORE EXPLANATION

People are thinking this is some sort of MLM or Pyramid scheme.  I ensure you this is not.  We are not requesting any money before the business is laid out for you so that you know what you are investing in. 

Think of this like McDonalds.  We are setting this business up with a sort of Franchise platform, so you will only be able to do business in the general area you buy into with us.  You just do not have all of these expensive fees associated with a franchise.  We wanted to make this affordable to give the small time investor a chance to make some good money.  I hope this releaves some concerns you may have.  We just can not release the business details until after we have worked them all out.

Let me correct these statements:
Response to the Good News: First, there is no pyramid scheme or multilevel marketing scheme.  You will not be asked to sign people up to sell for you or anything of the sort.  Your customers are your customers and will stay your customers as long as they need your service and no one else comes in under your prices.  This is a business, where you will make money off of the business you do, not the work of someone else.  Some people who are getting more than 2 cities will end up hiring a sales team, but this will be people being hired in to work, not someone you can make a percentage of their income.  Just business.

Response to Bad news:  The business will be explained before you send any funds, we are keeping the business under wraps for now, because someone who has more money than we do could take the idea and run with it, leaving us in the dust.  When we are ready to launch, all interested parties will be required to prove they have funding and they will be told what the deal is before they pay anything.  I will make another post with more information shortly, to help explain things.

I will be running a number of cities, and so will my partners, directly from our home computers.  You will need to have contact with your clients and will have to pay them a visit to get them to sign all the legal paperwork and sign up with your service.  The specifics will be revealed once we are ready to launch and there is no one who can jump in under us to stop the launch from happening.  We are waiting for communications back from a few processing pools and also from Blockchain.  The knowledge you will need is general computer knowledge and Bitcoin general knowledge.  I hope this answers your question.

Honestly, from what it sounds like coming from OP and what you're asking, there is good and bad news in your case:

The good news: is that you can be able to work from home, but just pay to "secure" an area or city of your choice. The customers will somehow do some kind of business for you... which I think in this case makes it seems like it is a pyramid scheme of some sort if the "customers" hand business for you.  Take that as you will though, I just know that me personally will not feel comfortable recruiting friends to do work for me and me receiving benefits for it.

The bad news: The idea will not be explained before you send funds. Going from what he has said before, he is concerned that the idea he has for a business proposal could be stolen from people on the forum.  So in other words, he wouldn't feel safe sharing any information on anything that has to do with what he is trying to sell, which I personally think contradicts everything that he is trying to do on this thread.

How much technical knowledge & infrastructure is required to participate eg website, payment processing?

Is this job doable from home? (i.e. do participants have to be in particular physical locations)

Will the idea be fully explained and verified BEFORE sending any funds?

maybe you could give some more quality details over your Project. Than it would be nice to know over the spreads between 2.5 and on the 5.
Also iam interested Would be nice to hear about

regards
lama-hunter

I agree with all you are saying, I am just throwing a tester out there to see interest sparked.  There is no way to get a patent on the business.  The business is not new in any way; it is just new to he bitcoin market.  There is no doubt that someone will take the idea and run with it, which is why we have to determine maximum profit from the door.  We are taking control of 125 to 200 cities ourselves when we open this up.  We are just seeing what kind of interest we can get prior to launch.

Well no offense, but if you wanted to keep things under wraps until you have your project/service fully developed (sounds like you're going to proceed developing it anyways), then why would you bother trying to garner interest in getting investors? If you wanted to protect your idea from being so easily taken over by someone else, then why not just apply for a patent on your business idea/product. Even after you get everything situated and developed, you still can't necessarily trust people not to take your idea and run with it when you finally tell investors how things would work.

Investors like seeing a finished project that they can tell if they at going to make a decent ROI with it.

As for now we are keeping it that way.   This project could get swiped out from under us with someone who has more money than we do, which would destroy everything we have been working for.  We are just looking to see who is interested before we finish the project.

Still have no idea what the project is or what i would be doing.

We are hoping to launch in January of next year.  What other information are you looking for?

Wrong choice of words, but I have to be careful how I put things for we can not have someone with a lot of money coming to take this out from under us.  This is nothing like a pyramid scheme.

I would like more info if/when you can say what the project actually is.

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Ok, so maybe I'm reading into this in a wrong way, but how you described the business plan in the last part I bolded and underlined it seems as if this is more of a pyramid scheme?  So like those Verge energy drinks or whatever else the "customer" needs to purchase something in order for them to sell it and so on?  If the business is "taken care of by your customers", then this screams out pyramid scheme to me... did I get that wrong?

You can be a money only investor and we will do the legwork for you with a 80/20 split (you get 80), or you can just make the initial investment and run the whole company yourself. 

I agree with what you are saying and we have already come to these conclusions.  I have answered your questions in red.  I hope I am giving enough information.  Please feel free to ask more questions if you have them.  We are just looking to see how many people we have interested so we know how in-depth we have to go with this.  For example, we are not going to do the research needed to cover Florida law if we have no interest in Florida. 

There's no time to ask questions!!! Quick!!!

How much work is involved as a investor? 

So in a way, it sounds like this is more of a bank/stock brokerage? Idk, just sounds like that though... but from what you're saying, the only thing you need to do is to have the funds available and ready when the time comes and you are ready to start taking investment order... but here's the reason why I'm skeptical:

If you are making a niche market where you have a certain business project outlined, the thing is, is that the person who is getting invested into something like this will probably need to know something about what they are doing.  So for example: someone who is a computer scientist probably won't know how to economically run a business. People have knowledge in many different fields, and I doubt that "every one" with the funds you are requesting people to have are the only thing they need to make a ROI out of this... Not to mention you need to advertise your product, try to get people to do business with you, and maybe even need to rent out a building to do business at so people know where to go to talk to you about stuff. People don't tend to do business with people when it's all based on the internet, especially the case if you are trying to get people to take over 10,000 cities in America or wherever.

I can give some general info, but we are keeping this under wraps until we are ready to go live.  This project can be duplicated by anyone and I am sure it will once we hit the floor running.  We are just trying to keep this with the people instead of letting some large investor or company take it and run it with large corporate profit margins.  This project will make using Bitcoin like using a credit card, allowing and informing more users about bitcoin and making it more profitable.

There is not much information we are releasing at this time, because someone with more money that what we have will be able to swoop in and take it out from under us.  This operation can happen anywhere there are retail businesses.

We are working out all the details and the structure now. It will be a few weeks until we are ready to launch.

I'm interested but skeptical since there is no info. Could you at least give out a little bit more information as to what this is about in general? Is it btc exchange?

Interested but skeptical as no details. City for me is Sydney AUST. Is this idea 100% legal?

So what it is at end? Reading that other thread but it is still quite mystery for me. Can you explain bit more or give some link? Do you operate at Croatia?

How or when do we get details about what this is? You got a website up or ?

This is not an exchange, gambling or advertising.  This is a stand alone business with a network setup which will bring in more business for your clients, thus bringing in more business for yourself.  The 2.5 BTC will be the price for the business rights for that specific city and a radius around that city to operate business with in that territory.  The 5 BTC is the recommended amount we will be recommending you have available in order to keep your business running smoothly.

The purchase price for rights to the city area will be 2.5 BTC.  We will be recommending that you have a bankroll of 5 BTC in order to properly operate the project.  I hope I explained this right.

More details please.... Is this an exchange, gambling, advertising...? You also list 2.5btc and then 5btc and then 5btc on top of that.  Interested in more info.

Which one is it?   2.5btc or 5btc?

This is the chat thread for this topic:
Bitcoin Game Changer - Coming to over 10,000 cities across America  (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-game-changer-coming-to-over-10000-cities-across-america-1285276)
This thread has been created to ask some general questions we can answer before you let us know you are interested in moving forward.
Please post any questions about this project in this thread and if you are interested please go the the thread above and leave your information.