Topic: Chia plotting and farming question (Read 753 times)

I do not understand how your products will help in the mining of the Chia coin. Plotting does not require fast hard drives, and is now quickly done with graphics cards. And for mining you need hard drives with a large volume of 10-16 terabytes.

Hi! Look at this RAM disks for chia plotting based on RAM memory chips with an exceptionally high read/write speed and an unlimited lifespan. Backup battery included. https://ddramdisk.store/

POS is thought to be going live on January 2022 but as we all know and as it always happened before it will be extended to the end of the 2023 more likely so there is plenty of time to keep mining Ethereum and even if this happens those cards can mine Ravencoin easily.Burning money on CHIA is the biggest mistake anyone can make right now where all other coins are profitable to mine with GPU-s and you go and start mining with HDD-s.

Before switching to POS

Chia mining is a failure and not profitable compare to mining ETH or other coins, it costs more to invest on 100terabytyes of space (HDD or SSD) than to buy few RX580 and start mining Ethereum, you will make more profits this way than buying HDD or SSD

I'd be interested, what country are you in?

Not double checking your math on the 3PB / $90k part, but yes, it seems the rewards are just not worth the cost.

I ended up buying ASIC rigs and now mine a variety of things (BTC, ETH, Sai, etc.) so I guess I did spend the $90k but went a different way.  Anyone want to buy some Chia rigs?  They hold 32 HDD's each but I only have 2 - 16TB drives. 

I have 3 MP600 corsair on myu mobo, x590, 128gb I have tested this stuff 4+ months, I find the 128gb ram plots are slower than my NVME m.2 pcie4x16 that run 6,000M/sec xfer; This is because the RAM will hog the memory-controller, but when the plots with 'madmax' are done on the REAL NVME, especially having 3, its faster than doing it in memory. I tested this stuff months ago, and quit using ram-disk. I think this is a scam to sell memory.

I already had the 32 core amd super-computer and nvmes, so there was nothing to to buy; These nvmes aren't cheap, like $200 each; U MUST have a +24 core cpu to plot;

When plotting dont' expect do anything else with the server, madmax hogs 100% of the memory controller & IO bandwidth, I run on nice 5, and ionice idle and machine is still unusable xwindows non-responsive; I plot in batch of 18/36, takes 20 minutes do this once a day; Filling up 18tb drives take 3-4 days

The only way I see HDD mining profitable is if u mine chia on HPOOL, and then use the same plot-files on FLAX foxy-miner POOL, and also on the flax-solo, and there are like 2-3 clones that aren't scams;

IMHO the new NFT portable-plot from chia is a scam, to lock people into chia-net; A place where you don't want to stay.

NFT PLOTS SUCK BIG TIME; Useless Scam; Only pool that counts is HPOOL with +85% of the entire pool-space, they get all the wins.

As can be clearly seen the above posted site is a 'fork' of the real site, I wonder why a 'god' highlevel person here is pushing questionable forks of madmax???

That's funny IMHO only use the real linux version, been using it for a month, no problem, a plot in 20 minutes, unlike 6 hours on chia create plot



https://github.com/madMAx43v3r/chia-plotter


REAL MADMAX GITHUB

Best bet is to follow the directions of your pool on where to get the miner & plotter sw, almost 99% of the github chia materials are scams to steal your chia-coin.

100 TB is $3k USD in HDDs

1,000TB (1PB) is $30K USD

Right now it takes 3PB, or $90K USD to earn one xch daily.

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What do u need a super-computer to plot 128gb of ram, 32 core amd, and 3 nvme on board ssd drives

You need 100's of HDD drives they can be ran on any plain jane mining rig, u need pcie-sata or usb cards to handle all the disks.

U can handle about 18-24 drives per mobo; 100TB or 10*10TB is ten drives, generally your super-computer is dedicated to plotting ( making the plot files ) as when mad-max is running the computer can do NOTHING else, it ties up the entire memory controller bandwidth.

The miners are just normal cheap rigs, u cannot use LAN or slow USB drives as the pool or solo process requires 5 seconds to process a win, if your disks are on a LAN its not fast enough, if your stuck with old 2.0 USB disks, they're too slow;

If u have $3k to invest, buy six $500 rtx-1660 cards and mine ETH, that is real ROI, chia is a scam

3 thousand for the entire assembly including RAM  DDRAM will be $1.2-1.5 per GB, == $150-$200 / 128 GB...

^^^^^^^^^^^^^ SCAM DOWNLOAD FROM A NEWLY CREATED GITHUB ACCOUNT

Only download the Windows MadMax plotter from the original stotiks Git repo or build it from source.

https://github.com/stotiks/chia-plotter/releases

This Asus X570 motherboard also supports 128GB RAM dual channel.

https://rog.asus.com/us/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-x570-f-gaming-model/spec

This H570 ASRock LGA 1200 micro ATX mobo also supports 128GB RAM

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157999?Item=N82E16813157999

I did, but ended up buying a dedicated Chia computer (actuall 2).  I am not sure the direction / success of Chia mining given all the factors.  I may shut them down and focus on other algorithms.

These guys promise a $1.5 per gigabyte... I think your PC is worth more than 385 bucks

threadripper is not a gaming focused product though. i think it's more suitable to point at hedt if you want to focus on ram channel and ram size. if you want more, try threadripper pro. the cost is obviously way higher.

Most high end quad-channel gaming motherboards should support 128GB or more memory. I have a 3960X Threadripper on a ASUS ROG Zenith II Extreme Alpha TRX40 mobo that supports up to 256GB of RAM.  There is a slight speed increase from plotting to a RAM disk, but the main advantage is to limit wear and tear on SSD's which have a limited TBW lifespan. Especially for consumer drives.

There has never been an obstacle to configuring a RAM disk before in Windows. But my motherboard does not support that amount of RAM And no other motherboard for home use either.
Read the description on my link:

It is not an SSD, although it emulates how it works. And it will work on any PCIe, as far as i can tell.

just make sure you use the RAMs "limited lifetime warranty" when it becomes handy  beats the 2-3-4 year warranty of HDDs, SSDs and GPUs. and probably those 10-12year from PSUs.

The MadMax Chia plotter can be configured to use a RAM disk by default, which is faster than using a NVMe SSD plus there is much less wear and tear. The MadMax plotter is also able to use CPU threading more effectively and is much faster than the the Chia wallet plotter. Ideally, you need at least 128GB of RAM to use as a temp drive for a k32 plot.

https://github.com/stotiks/chia-plotter/releases

https://youtu.be/RrWKGABzahw

https://youtu.be/_N8HBl4QTI8

Hi! Has you tried a some like RAM disk for plotting? https://ddramdisk.tech/
This looks more profitable than the SSD... How important is the speed of random access for plotting?

Keep doing what you do best and don't listen to any negative comment, chia coin can actually be the next big project in crypto space, I know it's very hard to mine but that coin will have good value, if the IOU can be sold around 1k to 5k anything is possible, good luck

Yes, correct.  I am plotting on fast nvme, and moving to old disks. 

Yes its more like burstcoin but not entirely a proof of capacity which is the algorithm that burstcoin uses, honestly speaking to me bust coin is a complete failure because there is no big or huge spike on bust coins value to date, I hope this coin won't be the same thing

Mining electroneum is easier because many people use smartphones these days so I don't understand why you said some people are in loss mining electroneum, so far it's the most easiest coin to mine since all it requires is just your smartphone

is this another Burstcoin variant?

People seem to forget so fast. I remember the electroneum hype back in 2017. How one could just mine with a phone blah blah. The talk about electroneum was all the place from telegram groups, YouTube channels and forums but can anyone tell me how far electroneum has gone so far 4 years later?

Lucky I didn't fall for it, but I do know people who made lots of losses in the coin.

The thing is you can't use old hard disk for plotting chia coin because they are extremely slow, the best SSD you can use is nvme, you can only use the old HDD for farming that is moving your plots from the nvme SSD to the old HDD

If you have old drives that aren't being used, why not try it. 

I wouldn't spend any extra $$ on it though.   Personally I have about 8 TB of old SSD's I am plotting and farming.  If I get a few coins, great.  If not, no loss.

I'm interested in chia too but I want to actually see how this coin performs after listing and also how rewarding it will be if people are mining through pools instead of solo mining, it took bitcoin 10 years to be this big so it's never going to be too late anyways

The painful part about chia mining is you have to keep adding hdd space to keep earning a certain amount of chia coin or your reward will start decreasing, isn't that insane? A gpu card can last you 3 years before they become obsolete, this plotting and farming from chia is no comparable to PoW algorithm, I'd rather buy cards

Everybody talking about this. What happened in 2017? I remember there was something like this but i forgot about it.

Users are already mining this coin on farms with 100-200 terabytes. If you make 5-10 plots on your laptop, you would be looking for a block for several years. But keep in mind that the number of hard drives is constantly growing and your chances will constantly decrease.
I do not have large hard drives, and with small hard drives of 0.5-1 terabytes, there is no point in mining

Don't even think about it, yesterday a guy on reddit starts farming chia coin and he claimed that it will take years to earn coins with 100TB, I believe this coin have already reach the stage where by it's too late for people like you to build rigs and start mining, better option is to wait for listing and look at the price on exchange, wait for dips cos it will happen and buy cheap

I'm planning to build a farming setup for chia project but I'm having a hard time making a final decision, should I go with server setup since the farming need to be running everyday or I should just build a desktop for plotting and farming? Also anyone using laptop to plot here?