Topic: China getting ready? (Read 372 times)

The thing that is destroying China is the number of people that they have. The US, with a smaller number of people, but far better control of the people, will wipe the streets with China. What is the control that the US has over its people? It's freedom.

A billion slaves (China) are subject to a thousand (US) who are free and want to work together.  The billion are disheartened by their slavery, and therefore will never work together as well as the thousand who are free and working together out of the joy of supporting each other.

As usual, you are missing it.

An update on China:
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https://archive.ph/W4FLC
https://www.economist.com/china/2024/12/05/fresh-doubts-about-chinas-ability-to-invade-taiwan

In some areas China is superior to the US... well, of course, staring by the number of people in the army and the nearly limitless capability to recruit even more if needed. However, technologically China is claiming much more than they really have - a plane for example may look similar, but the components which are key for performance be totally different.

But China may get there, it can take a decade it can take two decades, but the clash is innevitable.

No they didn't unveil a weapon, they just showcased an idea. It is barely in R&D phase and I gotta say that is the weirdest concept I've ever seen. A somewhat slow delivery system (slow by hypersonic standards since we are working on above 20 Mach speeds in our HGVs) with such a low range (up to 700 km).

Even the ancient Iranian SRBMs of Fateh family do a better job (Mach 7 speed, up to a ton of payload, and 700 km range and of course pinpoint precision while being dirt cheap). They are impossible to intercept by the way
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You are aware that you confirmed the argument?
Politicians don't care about the rest of their people, Wars are started due to the will from above.   

They don't have to notice it because they've got some properties and have got dual citizenship on a much safer country.

It doesn't benefit both parties if we're talking about the citizens and even us that are far from there. It only benefits the ones that are at the top of it.

China, like Russia, has some very sophisticated armament. Here's one piece of equipment that is new in China, but could be a great strategic success... not only against Taiwan, but also updated for war with the US.


China’s new hypersonic weapon could tip the scales in future conflicts in Taiwan and the South China Sea

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https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-11-19-china-new-hypersonic-weapon-taiwan-south-china-sea.html
China's newly unveiled GDF-600 hypersonic weapon could significantly alter modern warfare, especially in regions like the Taiwan Strait and South China Sea.

Developed by the Guangdong Aerodynamic Research Academy and showcased at the Zhuhai Airshow in southern China, the GDF-600 is a boost-glide hypersonic vehicle that can reach speeds of Mach 7 (5,370 miles per hour) and has a range of between 200 to 600 kilometers (124 to 373 miles). The GDF-600 is designed to carry various submunitions, such as supersonic missiles, drones and loitering munitions, allowing for flexible and multi-target strikes.

One of the GDF-600's most notable features is its ability to release payloads mid-flight, which enhances its versatility for kinetic strikes, electronic warfare (EW) and reconnaissance. This capability could give China a significant advantage by disrupting enemy defenses, particularly in high-stakes areas where rapid, multi-target attacks are crucial. However, the technological challenges of deploying payloads at hypersonic speeds remain significant, a hurdle that the U.S. military is also grappling with as it develops similar systems. (Related: China making "dramatic advances" in development of HYPERSONIC WEAPONS.)

If fully realized, the GDF-600 would strengthen China's hypersonic arsenal, particularly in regional conflicts. Integrating EW systems into the payload could make the weapon even more potent by jamming enemy radar, disrupting communications and neutralizing defensive measures. This mid-flight deployment of EW assets would help China disable tactical targets, making it harder for adversaries to respond effectively.

Chinese hypersonic weapons could be used to deploy EMP weapons against Taiwan
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The United States will not go to war with China, their economies depend on each other. Well, think about it, the USA needs iPhones, and the Chinese need jobs to make these iPhones.

I don't think so. One thing is to have started a war,  a different thing is to face your own destruction.

And what should we do with China now?

China has dispersed, I think they think that they are gods and can solve everything.

Naw. He will destroy the US with nukes first. Then there will be nothing to stop China from taking over.



When I first saw the title of this thread, I thought somebody was getting ready for Thanksgiving.

Politicians live in bubbles, they won't notice if their country ends in Caos. 
No country needs conflicts still many live to be in one. The war in Ukraine does not benefit Russia, still that won't stop Putin.

They know that their large economy will deteriorate once they engaged in a war. They cannot afford to go back to the old times when they've got no infrastructure yet. Now, they've got vast of it on their mainland and cities that are close to their center. I think all of these invested military resources that they have are serving its purpose and they're only showy to it and are only bullying the countries that they are having so that, these bullied countries are going to take a note for themselves that they should be friends to them. They said that they're willing to cooperate to the USA but once Trump is back not now.

China will always be a third party and it is useless to fight with it, there are too many of them and their economy is too strong.

This shit again?  There is no year in which China will attack Taiwan, because China is weak and physically incapable of such an attack.  NATO is licking their chops at the opportunity to fuck China up.  Just give us an excuse.

China works with long term plans and has goals to achieve. There was a US intel that suggested 2027 is the year China attacks Taiwan. That could be true or maybe the CCP is more flexible on time if the conditions are met or not. The more the west tries to isolate China, the quicker it would move towards the attack.
There are still hopes in China that there would be a peaceful reunification but I don't see that coming as the young people in taiwan are against it.
When you build up military hardware and spend a lot of money on your military, you are expected to get some results. It's not about whether but when would China attack.
I think 2028/29 would be a much better period as that would be another huge election year and as messed up the US and European democracy is, they'd be in dire conditions by that elections.

Do you believe a President of the US can single-handedly leave NATO?
The military brass will have a word there too. Its a huge step going against everything the US stands for.

He's correct in saying that the rest of NATO members should pay their share. And if not they face consequences.
Politicians got used to promises and fail at keeping those. 

NATO without the US?    Not so sure. 

NATO would tear China a new asshole just like we tore Russia's hymen in half.

There are few suitable landing sites in Taiwan, all of them easily defended by steep mountains.  Turn off the TV idiot box and learn something sometime.

It's really everyone's business.   Taiwan makes all the advanced chips.    If China attacks, regardless if they capture the factory or it is destroyed, it will set technology back a few years for everyone.

Most leader don't act on their own, they have advisors, the military crowd also ha s word to say.

No.  If you know anything about Taiwan, you'd know that there are few suitable landing sites on the island, all of them easily defended by steep mountains.  Invasion would be impossible for a clown force like the PLA.

Also, I don't see Trump being friendly to China.  His shtick is peace through strength. 

Yes and the sole deterrent to a takeover is the US. The US has quite a lot of bases, not that they surround China but enough to feel their presence.
Luckily for the US China is getting very close to the Philippines which could get out of hand earlier than a takeover of Taiwan.

So far the dissolution of the US is often promoted by the leftist autor group, here and in the www.

Still the US has the ability to renew and is better prepared for it. 
In the end most social networks are from the US and they are not the only bad factor. Low quality Food, low quality TV, the ability to overestimate their own skills all that is born out of ignorance. And Worldwide Ignorance is on the raise. A factor China, India also have their quarrels with.

I don't think those signals of China getting ready for a conflict necessarily mean they are going to fight against the United States (at least not directly). I sounds more reasonable to me Xi is getting ready to start a military operation on Taiwan and recover the island for it to be completely under the control of the CCP.
Let us remember there is an important percentage of the Republican party who believes the USA is not supposed to police the world and Ukraine and Taiwan are for them to be left at their own luck when facing invasions. The CCP could be planning to take advantage of such situation during the government of Trump or someone within the Republican party who will refuse to be hostile against Russia and China.

The BBC has a piece on that

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-58393763

The article is followed by a list and I only have seen one Black hawk Helicopter on Youtube in the parade a year after the not so happily executed withdraw.
You have to understand that if your mind harbors hate your opinion will be tainted.
Dogmatic blinds people.

The biggest difference between Armees nowadays is their training. Some are trained most are untrained.
Reckless flying and arrogance helps to get shot down.

The US Air Force dev team connecting 1,760 PlayStation 3's to build a supercomputer helps to explain forward thinking. It saved the US Airforce some 15 million for a Supercomputer. 
 

You don't seem to grasp the significance of it so let me put it this way.
For example after the Great Escape, Taliban became the owner of the second largest Apache attack helicopter army in the world! That's how much they left behind... and that's just one of the things they left.

Not to mention that a sample of everything that was left behind during the escape were given to the adversaries for research (finding vulnerabilities, reverse engineer if needed, etc.).

I haven't even gotten into all the classified stuff they left behind when they were escaping Afghanistan. From documents all the way to communication secrets.

What they physically left behind might have been in the billions of dollars but the damage to the US military was in the trillions...
One major damage for instance was for all the operations US military carries out using the locals. All those idiots who were cooperating with the US occupiers in any country around the world realized what US does to them after they saw Afghanistanians fall from US wide-win aircraft to their death, people who were promised US citizenship if they cooperated with their occupiers against their own country.
The subsequent major US military defeats in places like Syria, Iraq and even in Africa can be attributed to the Great Escape...

I don't know, you tell me how did that help US Air Force for example this morning when they lost another $40 million dollar aircraft after it entered Yemeni airspace. That's the 12th one that gets shot down easily over the past year.

A political withdraw is hardly a run away. True there was no time to take out their hardware. Still the hardware was paid for and the US Armee is not drilled to save money. Rather the opposite.

How is this fitting in your narrative:


This is admirable:



Source: https://phys.org/news/2010-12-air-playstation-3s-supercomputer.html

They have been preparing for several years, but I think they will attack Taiwan sometime. But that's their business.

For the past two decades (at least) the US so called "firepower" has only existed in movies HolyWood is paid to produce, not in reality. Lest we forget, US military was defeated by cavemen in Afghanistan and they fled the country 3 years ago leaving behind $100 billion worth of weapons and equipment during their escape!

Compared to most countries US military has nothing really useful anymore, it is just too expensive!

• The number of kids US Army can recruit sets a new low every year.
• The US Navy keeps decommissioning ships (17 last month) since they no longer have enough crew (China added 30 more ships to the Navy!).
• The US Airforce that was once ahead of the air-defense technology is now at least one generation behind it (to put simply US has no stealth aircraft anymore). Just look how easily their largest SEAD operation in history failed miserably exactly 2 weeks ago!
• They can't even produce enough weapons anymore (lacking artillery shells, missiles, missile defenses, armor, etc.)

One of my favorites is the $12 million joke called SM-3 (intercept missiles) which they can produce 12 of it per year. That is about 1 per month.
Iran alone can launch 12 ballistic missiles every 1.44 minutes (that is an average of 12000 per day for 5 years straight without running out of what is in storage already). Not that US made missile defenses (like SM-3 missiles) could intercept any of it as we've seen on 2024-04-13 and again on 2024-10-01, but even if they could succeed 100%, an entire year's production would only last for like 2 minutes

China is a joke.  The PLA is only there to oppress their own people.  They know they wouldn't stand a chance against NATO.  Western media outlets run these stories hyping China because it's good for views.

Look at it this way: Russia was #2 in military power and couldn't even handle Ukraine, which was like #60.  China is considered even weaker than Russia.

The West has no competition.

Does anyone have credible information on training? TIKTTOK not being accepted.

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Source:  https://www.economist.com/china/2024/11/04/in-some-areas-of-military-strength-china-has-surpassed-america
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What will happen once the Chinese pass the US Firepower?
How are the war doctrines? Training and preparation vs ?