Today's China understands that on the one hand it can, and is trying to take the vacant place of the second half, the bipolar world. The place that Russia has always lost.
On the other hand, China understands that it still remains, albeit the largest, export-oriented economy, heavily dependent on Western consumers. And from the USA in the first place. And not only as an exporter. China is still very dependent on Western technology. It may sound funny, but NO! China. dependent. From Western technology!
And having announced a bipolar world, where the poles are the USA and China, China will seek compromise solutions with the USA, and taking into account the requirements of the USA. Otherwise, China will return to the times when it was a regional supplier of mass primitive goods.
But now China is a little more comfortable - soon Russia will become its raw materials and territorial appendage, and this will allow China to strengthen its position in Asia, pushing India into the background.
PS. For the sake of objectivity, I will announce in advance. One of the joint decisions with the US will be a compromise solution on Taiwan. Xi will get "virtually" Taiwan, without its real status as a new full-fledged province of mainland China. For China, for the domestic consumer, a beautiful picture of "Xi Jinping's power" and his "influence on the United States" will be created. For Taiwan, this will guarantee autonomy, and the absence of hostilities from China, the United States will receive a Chinese partner with whom it can deal, and which will control all of Southeast Asia, as well as the territory of the still existing Russia.
Topic: China Is Quietly Rewriting Rules That Run the World (Read 193 times)
China has been doing this since it realized its value in the global economy during the communist era, which bet on human capital to achieve an unprecedented economic boom. And with this realization, she is convinced that she must secure her markets and all the distribution channels she uses. This is in addition to its multiple crises with its neighbors, who form something like a blockade, especially on the South China Sea front.
China has proven its ability to challenge the great powers and is thus reshaping the map of alliances in the world to ensure a greater share of hegemony over the planet's economy.
sometime all these rules are wiped off by the nature - we have seen how the COVID has changed the life of the world in last two yearsChina has proven its ability to challenge the great powers and is thus reshaping the map of alliances in the world to ensure a greater share of hegemony over the planet's economy.
At the end - we all are helpless in front of nature and no super power is super power
China has been doing this since it realized its value in the global economy during the communist era, which bet on human capital to achieve an unprecedented economic boom. And with this realization, she is convinced that she must secure her markets and all the distribution channels she uses. This is in addition to its multiple crises with its neighbors, who form something like a blockade, especially on the South China Sea front.
China has proven its ability to challenge the great powers and is thus reshaping the map of alliances in the world to ensure a greater share of hegemony over the planet's economy.
sometime all these rules are wiped off by the nature - we have seen how the COVID has changed the life of the world in last two yearsChina has proven its ability to challenge the great powers and is thus reshaping the map of alliances in the world to ensure a greater share of hegemony over the planet's economy.
At the end - we all are helpless in front of nature and no super power is super power
China has been doing this since it realized its value in the global economy during the communist era, which bet on human capital to achieve an unprecedented economic boom. And with this realization, she is convinced that she must secure her markets and all the distribution channels she uses. This is in addition to its multiple crises with its neighbors, who form something like a blockade, especially on the South China Sea front.
China has proven its ability to challenge the great powers and is thus reshaping the map of alliances in the world to ensure a greater share of hegemony over the planet's economy.
China has proven its ability to challenge the great powers and is thus reshaping the map of alliances in the world to ensure a greater share of hegemony over the planet's economy.
In my opinion, China is playing a complex strategic game.
Technical standards are a very powerful tool of influence in today's world. In some neighboring countries, even the railway tracks have different widths. Through the establishment of certain technical standards, countries fight for their influence.
Probably, China plans to draw half of the countries of the world into its sphere of influence.
And in this half of the world there will be such phenomena as social rating, closed Internet, censorship and a ban on freedom of speech.
There are plenty of treasonous investards and politicans in the west who would gladly have us all live under a Chinese social credit system and censorship etc if they made a dime from it.The west is becoming more like China everyday when you see the types of censorship and social controls being attempted by our own political classes.Only the super rich will be able to live in countries or regions outside of these invasive technocratic systems in the future. Technical standards are a very powerful tool of influence in today's world. In some neighboring countries, even the railway tracks have different widths. Through the establishment of certain technical standards, countries fight for their influence.
Probably, China plans to draw half of the countries of the world into its sphere of influence.
And in this half of the world there will be such phenomena as social rating, closed Internet, censorship and a ban on freedom of speech.
China became a global technological and industrial power by (more or less) stealing/copying western and Japanese technologies.
Now the Chinese want to set up their own standards and sell licenses for their own technology. This doesn't seem like a fair move, but who cares. Nothing is fair in this world. The Chinese will use anything they can in order to expand their economical, financial and political influence across the world. We can't blame them for that. The western countries would most likely try to set up and protect their own standards and prohibit the usage of technological products, which are under the Chinese standards. The world is heading towards another cold war. China and the west(North America, Western Europe) are going to be on the opposing sides of the barricade.
Now the Chinese want to set up their own standards and sell licenses for their own technology. This doesn't seem like a fair move, but who cares. Nothing is fair in this world. The Chinese will use anything they can in order to expand their economical, financial and political influence across the world. We can't blame them for that. The western countries would most likely try to set up and protect their own standards and prohibit the usage of technological products, which are under the Chinese standards. The world is heading towards another cold war. China and the west(North America, Western Europe) are going to be on the opposing sides of the barricade.
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What could materialize is different spheres of influence, where one set of standards is used for all associated devices in one group of nations, and another set for a separate group.
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....What could materialize is different spheres of influence, where one set of standards is used for all associated devices in one group of nations, and another set for a separate group.
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In regards to the spheres of influence, it's important to note that Nations with thesame/similar Cultures or Laws tend to share thesame or similar bubbles, which consequently determine their climate/weather. I think that should determine the kind of standards they adopt as long as the standards are safe for them.
You can tell a lot about people's culture by the Weather and Nature around them. Try to build things that are peculiar to their good cultures.
In my opinion, China is playing a complex strategic game.
Technical standards are a very powerful tool of influence in today's world. In some neighboring countries, even the railway tracks have different widths. Through the establishment of certain technical standards, countries fight for their influence.
Probably, China plans to draw half of the countries of the world into its sphere of influence.
And in this half of the world there will be such phenomena as social rating, closed Internet, censorship and a ban on freedom of speech.
Technical standards are a very powerful tool of influence in today's world. In some neighboring countries, even the railway tracks have different widths. Through the establishment of certain technical standards, countries fight for their influence.
Probably, China plans to draw half of the countries of the world into its sphere of influence.
And in this half of the world there will be such phenomena as social rating, closed Internet, censorship and a ban on freedom of speech.
The most impressive thing about the rise of China is that they have somehow manage to pull all of that off quite under the radar. If I recall correctly, there wasn't really anyone calling them out for aggressively buying into foreign industries and especially critical industries and infrastructure. It was first called out when it was already quite too late to stop it. Their level of influence is so high by now that refusing any deals with them comes at a high cost these days.
Many people were of the impression that they are doing their thing in China. Yes they are an export and import nation, but when you see how many ports they bought (partially) into all over the world, why did this info come up only when they had already bought into a 100+ ports around the globe? They have all kinds of agreements, some with lower and some with higher impact, but the logistical network they are building also comes with synergetic effects that improves their global political and economic power. These guys are great chess players obviously.
China is a country with 5,000 years of history, so the Chinese know how to think strategically.
Watch the excellent Chinese film "Battle of the Red Rock". This film shows well that there was a special position of strategist in the Chinese army. The strategist did not fight and did not engage in hand-to-hand combat with enemies.
His task was to observe the weather, flora and fauna, notice various patterns and come up with various military tricks on this basis.
In my opinion, China is playing a complex strategic game.
Technical standards are a very powerful tool of influence in today's world. In some neighboring countries, even the railway tracks have different widths. Through the establishment of certain technical standards, countries fight for their influence.
Probably, China plans to draw half of the countries of the world into its sphere of influence.
And in this half of the world there will be such phenomena as social rating, closed Internet, censorship and a ban on freedom of speech.
Technical standards are a very powerful tool of influence in today's world. In some neighboring countries, even the railway tracks have different widths. Through the establishment of certain technical standards, countries fight for their influence.
Probably, China plans to draw half of the countries of the world into its sphere of influence.
And in this half of the world there will be such phenomena as social rating, closed Internet, censorship and a ban on freedom of speech.
I don't understand politics, and I don't understand whether China wants to achieve socialist globalization through economic aid. I knew that the current economic situation is already very decadent. I do international trade, and now I just feel that Chinese suppliers are getting more and more cunning. Product quality and prices are fickle.
In my opinion, China is playing a complex strategic game.
Technical standards are a very powerful tool of influence in today's world. In some neighboring countries, even the railway tracks have different widths. Through the establishment of certain technical standards, countries fight for their influence.
Probably, China plans to draw half of the countries of the world into its sphere of influence.
And in this half of the world there will be such phenomena as social rating, closed Internet, censorship and a ban on freedom of speech.
Technical standards are a very powerful tool of influence in today's world. In some neighboring countries, even the railway tracks have different widths. Through the establishment of certain technical standards, countries fight for their influence.
Probably, China plans to draw half of the countries of the world into its sphere of influence.
And in this half of the world there will be such phenomena as social rating, closed Internet, censorship and a ban on freedom of speech.
The most impressive thing about the rise of China is that they have somehow manage to pull all of that off quite under the radar. If I recall correctly, there wasn't really anyone calling them out for aggressively buying into foreign industries and especially critical industries and infrastructure. It was first called out when it was already quite too late to stop it. Their level of influence is so high by now that refusing any deals with them comes at a high cost these days.
Many people were of the impression that they are doing their thing in China. Yes they are an export and import nation, but when you see how many ports they bought (partially) into all over the world, why did this info come up only when they had already bought into a 100+ ports around the globe? They have all kinds of agreements, some with lower and some with higher impact, but the logistical network they are building also comes with synergetic effects that improves their global political and economic power. These guys are great chess players obviously.
I do agree that they are trying to do some stuff which would be very difficult to be accepted in other nations, but it is going to hurt them so much when the time comes. Sure, go ahead and invest into another nation, roads, airports, whatever you want, but the moment they want to nationalize it, they are not going to be able to do anything about it, what could they do, open a war?
They can try to find a way to sue that nation, but if the whole world turned against China like how they did to Russia, then nobody would care. Technology, construction, farming, it doesn't matter what China could offer to the world, it all depends on one wrong move and the whole world will stop caring about what’s right, and only attack China.
They can try to find a way to sue that nation, but if the whole world turned against China like how they did to Russia, then nobody would care. Technology, construction, farming, it doesn't matter what China could offer to the world, it all depends on one wrong move and the whole world will stop caring about what’s right, and only attack China.
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ISO standards
Belt and Road Initiative (BRI).
Belt and Road Initiative (BRI).
This is similar to the european union recently mandating USB-C for all smartphones.
China as a central global hub of manufacturing places it in a position to mandate standards of its own in manufacturing sectors. Not only for products it exports but also for development projects it undertakes abroad in foreign countries.
1. you mention china being king of setting standards. but then mention that EU sets standards.
lets take data disks..
there was the DVDR- and DVDR+ ,, china did not care because they manufactured BOTH for 2 different corporations in america.. it was america that ended up settling the fight(sony) when it came to blue ray
though china build the products. they build it via specification blueprints of what US/EU companies want. where the EU/US hold the patents and decide which factory to licence as their source provider.. think about that
2. the BRI connects many countries together that were not connected before.. this does not mean china is king. this means that other countries can now use those same roads, rail and shipping lanes to actually prosper themselves..
yep indonesia having a fast lane to EU means that indonesia can become a power house to rival china.. have a little think about that.
4. china the land is the source of most manufacturing. but did you know that its actually american/EU companies that decided to go into china and use china for EU/US manufacturing
if other countries with lower wage costs have a fast lane access to the EU. the EU would use those other countries.. think about that
5. what you will find is that maufacturers dont want to ISO standard. because that means no repeat sales.. if everyone uses the same charging cable there is no 'upselling' of accessories such as new chargers every time a phone is upgraded. think about that
china like variety because it means more factories to make more product to make more profit... think about that
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what you are not realising is this
china is a cheap place to live, and create and innovate.. and while institutional level corporate america/europe love and partner with china.. they dont want their competitors using china. and so the media narrative puts china to shame by talking about modern slavery to scare start ups from using china..
silly conspiracies that the only way to trade in china is if you are a registered citizen using a government app. to scare start ups..
did you know china is not a "one app" economy..
people can use paper money and also a multitude of apps in china. and even debit and credit cards.. (are you shocked.. well you shouldnt be)
all without needing to be a registered citizen providing life story to the government.
yep true fact. think about that
(oh im british and white.. but atleast i can see beyond my nose of what i see on TV/internet.. and actually see whats happening in the real world .. because yep i travel and visit these places)
just remember everything you read on the internet was put there by someone in only the last 20 years
try instead to get out the house go travelling and see the real world cultures of countries beyond the human input of just 20 years of their opinion
No doubt that China have realized that the benefit of licencing is far reaching especially where they are still profitting from such fees. Chinese technology is cutting across different nationalities and this is breeding good competition for them to have an impact on the world technology business and this increase their revenue and GDP. In the bid of this economic superiority, China is really giving the US a good run and now they are trying to establish their physical presence in Africa by building police stations within the African continent. Nigeria is one of the countries that this have been done and their technology is everywhere.
Is this a bad thing for consumers, who now have more cheap products to choose from? Maybe, but it's hard to say for sure. On the one hand, countries like China, which are pushing for the new rules, are notorious for underpaying their workers in the process of producing low-quality goods. Does it really save us money if we just change who pays the fee? Obviously, there are more pros and cons to this. What China will do next is an important question to keep in mind.
In my opinion, China is playing a complex strategic game.
Technical standards are a very powerful tool of influence in today's world. In some neighboring countries, even the railway tracks have different widths. Through the establishment of certain technical standards, countries fight for their influence.
Probably, China plans to draw half of the countries of the world into its sphere of influence.
And in this half of the world there will be such phenomena as social rating, closed Internet, censorship and a ban on freedom of speech.
Technical standards are a very powerful tool of influence in today's world. In some neighboring countries, even the railway tracks have different widths. Through the establishment of certain technical standards, countries fight for their influence.
Probably, China plans to draw half of the countries of the world into its sphere of influence.
And in this half of the world there will be such phenomena as social rating, closed Internet, censorship and a ban on freedom of speech.
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“Economic nationalism is about to disappear. And technical nationalism has disappeared!”
So declared Olle Sturen in 1969. At the time, he headed the International Organization for Standardization (ISO), an institution that created the intermodal freight container (known as the twenty-foot equivalent unit), those ubiquitous metal boxes that utterly transformed global trade. A Swede who championed China’s entry into his Geneva-based organization in the 1970s, Sturen had an optimistic view of how the ISO’s work would bring the world together. It’s unlikely he would have envisioned how those standards would instead become a geo-strategic battleground between China and the West.
Standards are vital, as electrical engineers realized in the late 1800s. They found that equipment and devices needed to be made to specific, interoperable standards in order to avoid disaster. Today, there are scores of different international bodies that set industry standards. Lately, they’ve largely been driven by the private sector and many are somewhat informal. How informal? One internet-related body gauges consensus by humming rather than voting.
But standards-setting remains an arena where the act of writing the rules can be an opportunity to quietly confer tremendous power, and profit, on the author. Enter China.
Beijing conceives of standard-setting as a tool for moving its manufacturing up the global value chain, and building its influence abroad. This was laid out in a leadership document dubbed China Standards 2035, released late last year.
On the domestic front, “the idea is to set technical standards high, essentially forcing manufacturers to upgrade their processes whether they want to or not,” Matt Sheehan, Marjory Blumenthal and Michael Nelson of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace wrote. (China’s scientific research in the Arctic also plays a role in encouraging advanced industrial development.)
China’s plans also call for boosting its efforts internationally. One part of that is via the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI). If a member nation—Ethiopia or Indonesia, say—approves a rail project under the BRI, it will hardly be able to buy replacement signaling gear from a European provider that uses a different standard.
Beijing is “very well aware of the technological dependencies it can create if it succeeds in spreading and rolling out Chinese technical standards through BRI projects,” Tim Rühlig, Research Fellow in the Technology and Global Affairs Program at the German Council on Foreign Relations, said in a recent Pekingology podcast.
It’s possible that in time China will seek through BRI to institutionalize a “parallel world of technical standards” Rühlig said.
Meantime, the simple publication of the 2035 plan will serve as a powerful impetus throughout China’s government and private sector to contribute to the new national goal, the Carnegie authors wrote:
Another consideration is that standards can reflect choices on principles and even ethics. Back in 2006, the ISO rejected a Chinese Wi-Fi encryption standard amid concerns there were no guarantees that WAPI, as it was known, didn’t allow backdoor access to encrypted material.
China hasn’t only radically expanded its presence in the global technology sector since then, but is stepping up engagement with standards-setting bodies just as private-sector led efforts by Western nations drops off.
“American companies and European companies are not supporting as many of their people to go be part of the standards process as they used to,” said JoAnne Yates, an MIT Sloan School of Management professor who co-wrote a book on the modern history of standards-setting, in a China Talk podcast.
Having the likes of Washington, Brussels and Tokyo step heavily back into the breach, however, may pose another challenge.
The private-sector driven model arguably allowed innovation and the rapid growth of markets. A heavily politicized mechanism for setting standards could inhibit the development of new technologies. Stepping in early to impose a certain standard could lock in the use of less-efficient methods or products, or ones that would otherwise have become quickly outdated.
Jude Blanchette, Freeman Chair at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, cautions that over-emphasizing the geopolitical security aspect of the current standards landscape has “profound costs.”
Nevertheless, the evolution of different sets of standards seems increasingly unavoidable.
“It’s hard to imagine now that, for the next generation of mobile devices—6G—that it will be as smooth” to establish the same type of industry standardization as for past generations, said Zhikai Chen, head of Asian equities at BNP Paribas Asset Management. “This is just one example. We probably will see others emerge over the next five to 10 years.”
What could materialize is different spheres of influence, where one set of standards is used for all associated devices in one group of nations, and another set for a separate group.
From an investment standpoint, that means companies would have to incur extra costs to manufacture to, say, China-oriented standards and Western-oriented ones.
“You’ll have to have two different products, catering to potentially different spheres of influence. And you can imagine that that’s probably not good for economies-of-scale or production,” Chen said.
Or, a company could opt to concentrate on just one bloc of nations, abandoning the revenue stream tied to servicing another. Either way, it would seem that Suren’s utopian vision from half a century ago will remain out of reach for many decades to come.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2022-11-05/china-rewrites-the-rules-that-run-the-world-new-economy-saturday
So declared Olle Sturen in 1969. At the time, he headed the International Organization for Standardization (ISO), an institution that created the intermodal freight container (known as the twenty-foot equivalent unit), those ubiquitous metal boxes that utterly transformed global trade. A Swede who championed China’s entry into his Geneva-based organization in the 1970s, Sturen had an optimistic view of how the ISO’s work would bring the world together. It’s unlikely he would have envisioned how those standards would instead become a geo-strategic battleground between China and the West.
Standards are vital, as electrical engineers realized in the late 1800s. They found that equipment and devices needed to be made to specific, interoperable standards in order to avoid disaster. Today, there are scores of different international bodies that set industry standards. Lately, they’ve largely been driven by the private sector and many are somewhat informal. How informal? One internet-related body gauges consensus by humming rather than voting.
But standards-setting remains an arena where the act of writing the rules can be an opportunity to quietly confer tremendous power, and profit, on the author. Enter China.
Beijing conceives of standard-setting as a tool for moving its manufacturing up the global value chain, and building its influence abroad. This was laid out in a leadership document dubbed China Standards 2035, released late last year.
On the domestic front, “the idea is to set technical standards high, essentially forcing manufacturers to upgrade their processes whether they want to or not,” Matt Sheehan, Marjory Blumenthal and Michael Nelson of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace wrote. (China’s scientific research in the Arctic also plays a role in encouraging advanced industrial development.)
China’s plans also call for boosting its efforts internationally. One part of that is via the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI). If a member nation—Ethiopia or Indonesia, say—approves a rail project under the BRI, it will hardly be able to buy replacement signaling gear from a European provider that uses a different standard.
Beijing is “very well aware of the technological dependencies it can create if it succeeds in spreading and rolling out Chinese technical standards through BRI projects,” Tim Rühlig, Research Fellow in the Technology and Global Affairs Program at the German Council on Foreign Relations, said in a recent Pekingology podcast.
It’s possible that in time China will seek through BRI to institutionalize a “parallel world of technical standards” Rühlig said.
Meantime, the simple publication of the 2035 plan will serve as a powerful impetus throughout China’s government and private sector to contribute to the new national goal, the Carnegie authors wrote:
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“This type of activity will have major and uncertain spillover effects beyond China. It could position Beijing to wield greater influence on standards-setting across the board, including a vast range of products and processes—anything that might be standardized.”
Another consideration is that standards can reflect choices on principles and even ethics. Back in 2006, the ISO rejected a Chinese Wi-Fi encryption standard amid concerns there were no guarantees that WAPI, as it was known, didn’t allow backdoor access to encrypted material.
China hasn’t only radically expanded its presence in the global technology sector since then, but is stepping up engagement with standards-setting bodies just as private-sector led efforts by Western nations drops off.
“American companies and European companies are not supporting as many of their people to go be part of the standards process as they used to,” said JoAnne Yates, an MIT Sloan School of Management professor who co-wrote a book on the modern history of standards-setting, in a China Talk podcast.
Having the likes of Washington, Brussels and Tokyo step heavily back into the breach, however, may pose another challenge.
The private-sector driven model arguably allowed innovation and the rapid growth of markets. A heavily politicized mechanism for setting standards could inhibit the development of new technologies. Stepping in early to impose a certain standard could lock in the use of less-efficient methods or products, or ones that would otherwise have become quickly outdated.
Jude Blanchette, Freeman Chair at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, cautions that over-emphasizing the geopolitical security aspect of the current standards landscape has “profound costs.”
Nevertheless, the evolution of different sets of standards seems increasingly unavoidable.
“It’s hard to imagine now that, for the next generation of mobile devices—6G—that it will be as smooth” to establish the same type of industry standardization as for past generations, said Zhikai Chen, head of Asian equities at BNP Paribas Asset Management. “This is just one example. We probably will see others emerge over the next five to 10 years.”
What could materialize is different spheres of influence, where one set of standards is used for all associated devices in one group of nations, and another set for a separate group.
From an investment standpoint, that means companies would have to incur extra costs to manufacture to, say, China-oriented standards and Western-oriented ones.
“You’ll have to have two different products, catering to potentially different spheres of influence. And you can imagine that that’s probably not good for economies-of-scale or production,” Chen said.
Or, a company could opt to concentrate on just one bloc of nations, abandoning the revenue stream tied to servicing another. Either way, it would seem that Suren’s utopian vision from half a century ago will remain out of reach for many decades to come.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2022-11-05/china-rewrites-the-rules-that-run-the-world-new-economy-saturday
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This is similar to the european union recently mandating USB-C for all smartphones.
China as a central global hub of manufacturing places it in a position to mandate standards of its own in manufacturing sectors. Not only for products it exports but also for development projects it undertakes abroad in foreign countries.
To add another layer to the arrangement, china appears to be borrowing from nintendo's business strategy. Where nintendo refused to adopt CDs and DVDs for many years, opting to use cartridges with the N64 and their own proprietary disc formats afterward. The motive behind nintendo's use of 2nd tier technology was motivated by it earning additional profits through charging developers for licensing fees for using its own in house technology.
It appears that china may follow a similar trend by charging licensing fees for using the technology standards it establishes. Whether or not these trends may be significant or relevant in the future remains to be seen. But it is certain that china is attempting to monetize other untapped revenue streams, which will hopefully help it to stabilize its economy.
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