Topic: China says it will trade normally with Russia (Read 651 times)

It is really just typical that there would be alliances on different countries because not all would really agree on the same situation or things that they are dealing with which it is pretty normal that there would be groups.

There would be oppositions,alliances and being neutral. One thing that they do have in mind is that whenever they do get that benefit or something good that would in result then this is where they usually stick.

The interests of Russia and China are aligned, if they could they would like tho see the US no longer as the top superpower of the world, but if that is not possible they would at least like for the US to lose some of its power.

And it is because of this their postures towards bitcoin are ever-changing, they dislike the idea of people bypassing their monitoring tools, but they love the idea of using bitcoin to weaken the control the US has over the world economy and try to get around whatever sanctions the US may implement against them in the future by using an independent tool like bitcoin.

They are right, in addition to the fact that China is an ally, not only does Russia have China, on the other hand there is Arabia, which also has a better relationship with Russia than with the Americans, so let's say that these countries do not agree with the dollar, they are countries that They want to leave the hegemony of the dollar that is sinking, and in a war that exists, money that suffers a lot of inflation will not have money, and it must be seen that the US economy is taking a lot of inflation and they have to satisfy their needs anyway, this means that a union between these countries will not allow a totally suffocated Russian economy to sink.

They're not ready to become allies because they were already an ally even before the war has started.

It would be a lot of pain if they'll join the war but I don't think that it will come up to that point that they'll join the war. Unless Russia sees the world war 3 is coming and other allies of Ukraine coming in.

That's a really possible thing to happen that these two big countries that's known to be a big opponent for a war will certainly come to help Russia.

This is no surprise. China, a communist nation, is always going to side with other like minded countries. They will of course stop just short of too much support or help unless it came to World War 3. The west challenges their evil ways of governing and they don’t like it. Not sanctioning Russia was always expected. It was actually surprising seeing them say that Russia should solve this peacefully.

What we need to remember is that there are 2 big ASIAN powers that are ready to become Russia's allies even in a state of sanctions crisis. China and North Korea provide full support to Russia. Since the invasion, a lot of support from North Korea until now approaching the 15th day of the invasion, little by little the Ukrainian border areas have begun to be controlled. If we look at what Russia has done, it is not much different from what the US did when fighting Iraq, Afghanistan, and Middle Eastern countries, for reasons that are not much different.

The funny thing is, the US does not get sanctions and criticism from other countries. I prefer to call it the Russian attack on Ukraine than the Invasion. Because what the US is doing is tantamount to killing millions of innocent victims in the Middle East with the excuse of securing weapons of mass destruction that have not been proven true. Therefore, neither the US nor NATO provides 100% military assistance to Ukraine, they only prioritize humanitarian assistance such as medicine and accept Ukrainian citizens who want to evacuate.

And also, it's simple that they're allied with Russia.

An ally won't do sanction if they've been partners for a long time. But as well as the competition for these superpowers has been there for a long time.

The advantage is with China that they'd bring help to the economy of Russia.

The truth is that while our technology has advanced at an amazing rate, at the same time we as humans are not much different from the people living thousands of years ago and the civilizations they built which were at a constant sate of war against each other.

So while without a doubt it would be preferable that such thing did not happened it is almost unavoidable that we as a species we will keep making the same mistakes, if anything the only reason the number of conflicts around the world have gone down over the years it has to do with the fact that we know that WWIII will devastate the world, so governments are way more measured than in the past and try to do what they can to avoid conflicts with other countries.

The world has drastically changed over the years. Nowadays, war shouldn't even cross the minds of people because the consequences are definitely more than what world expected decades ago. These days should be the days of diplomacy and peace; respect for human rights and love for the humanity and the world we live in. It is very sad to see these events that aren't even supposed to happen which are affecting millions of lives and if not helped, can even go beyond. People just never learn. Just for some measly benefits and egos leaders who were suppotto tale their people to better days are the ones that repeat the same mistakes of the past over and over again. I really pity the generations to come that has to hear the consequences of our actions today.

Casual recognition of part of another country's territorial independence out of national interest will cause more trouble.
China's current development requires a peaceful and stable international environment, and China will not claim to impose sanctions on any country.

China has always remained neutral and has not sanctioned Russia's economy and development from Ukraine's perspective like other NATO powers. China has no intention of taking sides. Although an ally, it has not interfered with Ukraine or Russia. This approach is stronger than some countries claiming to be neutral and actually sanctioning Russia.

I wouldn't call them allies. In fact I don't think there are any alliances between countries. There are only partnerships and opportunities. China is ignoring Russia's actions because Russia is the enemy of their enemy (which is the US). Also, this creates an opportunity to get the Russian oil for nearly free. And there is even more, since they are about to invade Taiwan; soon they may find themselves in a similar situation so it makes sense to support a country which is already in this situation.

China and Russia are natural allies. China is an energy consuming nation, while Russia is the top energy exporter in the world. Chinese factories need massive amount of natural resources such as iron ore, coal, aluminum, copper, manganese and other metals, while Russia is one of the top producers of these assets. And on the other hand, China is the manufacturing hub for electronics, household appliances, plastic products, textiles.etc, while Russia is one of the top importer of these commodities. Any economic partnership between these two countries will be extremely strong.

putin is not a smart but cunning president, taking advantage of EU gas needs to be used as a shield is the devil's doing..

I would be very happy to hear putin burned by the Russian gas!
China and Russia are ruled by demons in human bodies, only money, power and terror they like..

Other countries are reluctant to go to war with China because of their high dependence on China, almost all products from China are spread to the world, another thing about China is that by normal trading with Russia, you will get high profits, especially China is a country that borders directly with Russia. easy and low cost.

That's expected, they're both a communist country so I am not surprised that they will be continuing as it is, and it's worth noting that China is known to always screw with Western powers because they've been able to do it for a long time now and they're unstoppable in doing so. This might be a big help to Russia to continue their campaign despite the economic sanctions.

China is one of the countries that always benefits from warfare. They are experts in stepping on two boats at the same time. Right now they are giving an impression that they are on the side of Russia. Now they will bargain hard with NATO and get additional relaxations from them in order to take a stricter stance against Russia. On the other hand, they will bargain with Russia and its allies like Belarus, and will make sure that Russia sells them crude oil, natural gas and other mineral resources at rates much below the normal market price.

China and russia are friends and therefore china won't ban russian product and services. The world is divided into two parts, one who stands with russia and the other who stands with ukriane (USA + NATO).

If there is a nuclear war, then everyone will jump in and chinese will invade the taiwan. Lets see how this situation develops in march as this month will decide the fate for rest of the months and years to come.

I think china understands russia is the biggest asset for china in trade especially Economy, where we know china is expert in trade.

In fact china has always avoided war, they prefer economic business to war, almost all countries have debts to china, the goal, other countries are reluctant to make war on china.

Thats correct. With or without sanction on Russia, China will always purchase gas and oil from Russia. Therefore gas from Russia is absolutely necessary. Its on China's interest to secure a safe supply of gas from a friendly country.

And besides it is not China's fight. Both Russia and Ukraine are friend of China. China has no reason to suppport the war between the friends. And its very hard to take side when conflict happened and both side is your friend. What a friend only can do now is to defuse the tension rather than giving a weapons to create more harm.

Maybe, this is the reason why Putin is confident about waging war with Ukraine because if nothing else, China is still on their side and they will survive even if all the other countries in the world will sanction them. But the ones who is suffering from this war, are the people under his regime. I am thinking that maybe sooner, these Russian people will have an uprising against Putin. If their people will unite, I think, they can remove Putin from his throne.

Yeah, its all about business. China is a businessman and they jusf want to make money. They dont hold a gun to anyone's head and make them sign deals. Bags of cash maybe but not force Aside from that China is already Russia's primary trading partner. Sanctions or no sanction that will no change for a long time. As long as Russia provides China with cheap natural gas, nothing will happen to their relationship.

There's no way for China to join the boycott! As Arallmuus says, they have their goals set long ago... and I also agree that this could happen in the near future for China to take a step towards Taiwan! It would not be strange at all for them to do that soon, while the US is focused on Europe and Ukraine! But who will know what's in their heads, China is playing smart in the last decades, they are spreading their influence where they can, showing teeth here and there! On top of all that they like to counter the Americans in any way, whenever they can, to me it seems impossible for China to make a move against Russia!

If we see later that it is a bright spot that Russia has provoked NATO, including the US, to intervene, then Russia has a strong reason to launch an attack on NATO countries. If indeed insist on taking Ukraine to join. It seems we are all getting tired of how news stories are everywhere about the Russian invasion of Ukraine. And not a few witnessed the impact felt by the citizens of Ukraine and Russia itself who experienced heavy sanctions. until I saw some Russian citizens say the prices of basic commodities and food have increased dramatically in the market due to the sanctions imposed by European countries.

China will not invade Taiwan, its already China. The people in Taiwan are Chinese themselves, been there same in Hongkong. Seeing the distruction of war, the Chinese would prefer Taiwan to join with them intact since the world needs the production of micro chips which China also wants to grab the market.

If they will plan a strtegy, Xijinping will rather prolong the war in Ukraine by supporting Putin with whats needed for their country to last for months to years so the whole Europe will feel the effect of sanctions. They know Europe is on the crossroad when they decide in supporting Ukraine.

What ways can Russia take if the security of its country is disturbed by NATO by getting closer to Ukraine, if the Ukrainian president chooses a neutral path and does not take sides, Putin will not take this worst decision.  The invasion that was carried out would also have an impact on the people, the economic sanctions that occurred even though the Russian government must have thought of a solution still made it difficult for the people.  The Ukrainian president is also too egotistical so that the people are the most disadvantaged.  NATO does not need to be approached, so what?  at least they are independent that they have to ask for security protection from NATO.

The thing that triggered Russia is the application of Ukraine for NATO which is absolutely their right as an independent country. Russia sees this as a threat since the US and NATO has been expanding to the east a lot over the years and even got missile assembly on poland and Romania. I may not know a lot of things though, this is just how I understood things with what I have read. And of course no country leader wouldn't protect its countrymen, if not for the sake of the people, then for the sake of own's ego or legacy. And this very ego is what led US to do more than what they have already done.


I sure hope that it really doesn't escalate to another world war. About the supplying, indeed there are supplies, the problem is manpower. No one wants to send any troops to help Ukraine because this may just lead into an all out war and may just turn into ww3. Russian government won't easily fire at anyone unless it really is necessary IMO, they already have enough problems in their hands so to speak.


No one is naive and they are well aware of their actions. And even if there is really a benefit in blaming sides, I doubt it would change things as they already are nor bring back the lives and properties lost. China is a freaking bully. South china sea barely even counts as theirs territory wise. Even the tribunal ruling says so but they still insist on what they want like they don't care at all. Now although Russia and China are in good terms at the moment, I don't think it is an enough reason for Russia to openly support China. It would mean more problems for Russia by then.

Putin isn't the smartest. If he's smart enough, then he might've made other plans to restrict Ukraine, but what he did all of the sudden is the reality of his smartness. European nations were much dependent on Russia, now closing the doors will cause European countries a big blow. Always there will be neighbouring countries. So the oil and gas deal will happen through a third country that acquires and sells back to European nations.

The Chinese government has a very clear idea of what they want to do and it is clear they never had any intention of sanctioning their ally, and if anything they may even offer support to Russia as a way to try to strengthen their economy.

To me this is a very clever strategy by the Chinese, while both the US, their allies and Russia get weaker due to the sanctions, China does not suffer at all and keeps growing and becoming stronger while they bid their time and wait until they can make their own strategic moves.

 Except, for the fact that the Russian economy is tanking, the ruble is tanking, the stock market is not open for obvious reason but the moment it is then it will crash and people will see the reality of how much, which will drop the ruble even more. The fact that people can't take more than 10k dollars out of their nation, the people who study abroad are sent back, the teams are kicked off the competitions, and many many many more sanctions are laid onto them. I am sorry but if you think that Putin is managing this well, then you are ignorant to all the things that are happening right now in Russia as well as all the future threats to the people of it as well. Putin may do fine, and some oligarchs maybe do fine in the end, but regular people are suffering because of the decisions Putin made, who is someone people did not vote for and get elected in fraud elections.

Putin is one of the smartest presidents in my opinion because no matter how their economic condition is sanctioned by the world, they will still survive because Europe's oil supply is 40% supported by Russia.  How can a decision that Europe has taken not be so fatal to Russia?  That's because Russia's preparations to face this condition have actually been able to bear the existing burden.  Assess the effect of the United Nations on the country of influence.

But now NATO is secretly not playing games, moreover, the US will always take advantage of other countries' wars and enter like a hero. What if the war was designed by the US to draw Ukraine into NATO and make the country a military base on the border between NATO and Russia. Hence the mainstream media will continue to corner Russia in this regard. In fact, if viewed from its history, the US has a big sin for the Middle Eastern country.

Well that's pretty much what they can only do anyway. Haven't checked the news again but I suppose NATO is still playing safe and just preparing in case Putin gets greedy and launch attacks with its puppet Belarus.

And yes China will invade Taiwan, it's not a matter of if but of when. People just keep mentioning it since China can take the opportunity if NATO get its hands tied up in Ukraine and it breaks out into a larger conflict.

I'm not surprised at all to see china act like this because this reaction from china is completely normal and according to what we know and what we already saw about them, China cares about international trades mich more than anything else actually what how we are one of the strongest economic powers in the world, in the other while all other countries are trying to blame Russia for their actions and blaming them for this war, China and cheese news won't use words like 'military attack' because they are not really unhappy about this war since that's not against their desires.

Since the conflict broke out, I have found that China has barely articulated its position. China does not want to confront its ally Russia directly, nor does it want to be seen as supporting an invasion of Ukraine. China is under increasing pressure from the United States and Europe as the West wants it to make its position clear and speak out against Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Beijing's refusal to help defuse the conflict is likely to increase Western hostility towards China in the medium term. This could increase the strategic competition between China and the United States, make the US-European link closer, and counter China.
Being very pragmatic, China does not want to be drawn into a conflict that is likely to destabilize its interests in the region, worsen relations with Europe and the United States, and disrupt its economy.

Not "really". Russia doesn't provide much to USA, maybe they are bribing certain politicians and NRA and so forth, but not the general public, and the oligarchs of USA, doesn't compete well against the Russian ones neither. So there is really no benefit of Russia for the wealthy people in the USA, not a lot at least. China is a different topic, they are willing talk badly about China in politics, but when it comes to companies and wealthy people, they love working with china.

China is cheap and they are amazing at manufacturing, so even when they commit a genocide on their own land and kill all the Islamic, as long as they could get the new iphone manufactured there for fraction of what it would cost in USA, they would be fine with it. So the "we are enemies with china" is all for a show if you ask me.

The US is China's foe as well. So, Russia and China might not be allies (Which I highly doubt that they are 100%) but they share a common enemy.
So, that makes them stand on the same page.

By continuing their (China) trades from Russia, this is clearly an act of support of the Russian invasion to Ukraine, while everybody else is supporting Ukraine for their act of bravery.

Not surprisingly, they are classic allies and China is taking advantage of this to strengthen a front of opposition to the USA and NATO. Some people say that China is going to take the opportunity to invade Taiwan, but I don't know what to believe anymore.

I hope that the Chinese will put the brakes on Putin so that he doesn't go crazy and start throwing nukes and they can also help Russia to have an honorable way out of all this. It would not be a good idea to leave Putin in a humiliating situation and for him to believe that he has nothing left to lose anymore.

In almost every country there are products that come from China. Right now, the economy is the most important thing, especially with China, where the last time the head of state asked Putin to settle things well. Of course if you involve yourself there will be a lot of losses to be borne, supplying needs is a great way to keep bringing in money

Of course it is very complicated with the current conditions especially for the EU and even though so many countries are currently involved and holding meetings to resolve all of this,
but of course Russia is not standing still,
it's better if we follow the latest news and keep up with its developments

Yes, China will never announce sanction to any countries of the world because they want more countries to know more about their quality products. China will use this opportunity to make more money from Russian because some of the products Russian are using are from China, that is the reason why China will not allow anything to happen to their own economy. China has made a lot of income from Russian that will make them not to stop supplying goods to Russian at this point of crisis between Russian and Ukraine.  Russian will continue to enjoy from China in the areas of making goods available for Russian in this war between Russian and Ukraine that is going on their country.

hostility from the US must be very well-liked by China. Russia is one of the countries that have the largest gas and oil reserves in the world, and they also have a lot of gold as reserves. relations between communist countries (China-Russia-NorthKorea) have been very good so far. With great support from China, I believe the EU can do nothing, let alone impose sanctions on China.

I would guess that they would probably get away with being friends with Russia at this point. Why? Because nobody thinks China is the good guy neither, everyone is trying to move their manufacturing somewhere else nowadays, Apple already started some factories in other nations as well. India is right there, and they are the nicest people I met, I could easily say that if you moved every single financial power China has, and moved that to India, the whole world would be a lot better.

It could be some other nation as well, the main point is always "not some nation as rich as Europe so that they could pay less for workers" which is unfair and sad but the reality of life. China already gets a ton of hate, they literally got away with genocide for Christ sake and people are still doing business with them in the name of cheap labor, so I would guess that China could side with Russia and nothing would happen.

"Normally" here doesn't mean that they will support them. It means that if Russia is out of swift and out of everything else and can't trade with anyone in the west, then China expected to jump in and close the difference. However, they are not supporting them right now hence the "normal" trade, meaning they will just keep on doing business as usual instead of putting too much money and resources into Russia.

It was also a big warning sign for China as well, military-wise they could take Taiwan and even some other places, but that would result with west destroying their economy and economy is all China got right now and would be terrible for them, can't handle another famine.

Talking about the US and Afghanistan, the answer is that the US has suffered heavy losses and has produced nothing. What remains are only innocent victims, launching accusations from Western Intelligence who for years turned out to be gravely mistaken by disappointing information. That's the reason the US withdrew and had no intention of going to war against Afghanistan.
As we know at this time, NATO is still carrying out normal actions, namely guarding the borders of NATO countries. It means waiting for Russia to fish or indeed waiting to be provoked. Despite all that, I keep my ears open and hope that Ukraine will return soon under better conditions. There is still a peaceful path if you don't want any more victims to die in vain for following the selfishness of the two presidents. Regarding China, they will also invade Taiwan, the information is like that and it will definitely not be far from what Russia is doing.

I think it was disastrous but that the US got yeeted out of Afghanistan was a blessing for them. They wouldn't be able to fight to preserve both Europe and Taiwan. I think China would wait until Russia breaks out of Ukraine into say, Poland, before it will attack Taiwan. That way the US would be stretched thin. It does heavylifting in NATO and in Asia its only partner that would fight to help defend Taiwan would be Japan.

Now the entire civilized world is finally uniting around European moral values ​​and is providing Ukraine with good military and financial support. Given the high patriotism of Ukrainians and the eight-year experience of the war with Russia, during the four days of the war, the Ukrainians destroyed about 5,300 invaders, 191 tanks, 29 combat aircraft, 29 attack helicopters, 816 armored vehicles, 74 cannons, 21 Grad multiple launch rocket systems, 291 vehicles.
The whole world saw that the great and invincible Russia could lose to a relatively small Ukraine, as the Ukrainians defend their land and their families, and the Russian soldiers for the most part do not know what they are doing on foreign territory.
Seeing how other states react to Russia's bandit attack on Ukraine, China did not dare to openly support Putin. In addition, international sanctions also had a significant impact on this position. Therefore, China is reducing trade relations with Russia and even refusing Russian oil, due to the uncertainty in mutual settlements. Currently, only two of China's largest banks are allowed to maintain financial relations, and contractual trade relations with Russia in each case will have to be approved at the highest political level of China.

China is just observing right now, but they want to wage war with Taiwan for so long already because they are not recognizing the freedom of Taiwan. They have the same mentality with Putin, the reason why they are not affected with Putin's decision of going to war with Ukraine. I have the feeling that China is just looking for small reasons and they will go to war with Taiwan. WW3 is imminent because of these officials that are egocentric individuals.

china is lika a big nice grandmother, if putin does everything right he gets armies from her.

the west will not be able to convince china and india that putin is Hitler.
but putin might convince that zelinski is Hitler, by doing nothing

It's because China knows what Russia want and choose not to interfere because they are most likely have the same goal or they will benefit with this war. And trading with Russia will give them more profit when the war started and all of this happening is because Russia don't want to give up Ukraine to the NATO(US) since they were most likely going to join NATO instead of getting back to Soviet Union. It's all in their history why Putin just acted like that. Plus if Russia going to lose Ukraine then NATO is just getting closer to their territory.

Ofcourse they will say that .

1. They already talked with Russian President about everything, made a deal and kept things better for both parties

2. They want to attack Taiwan and other than that, the Russian president wants to attack Ukraine so their sick mentality finally found a place together

3. They know WW3 might start if the already deranged Putin blows up Nuclear bombs and they want to keep Russia as allies

Even though we don't know the deal between Ukraine and china but I guess China is treating it the same as they treat Russia and other countries. They think about their business and won't do any bad thing that will affect it but china as the main source of other countries? No I don't think so because every country has their specialty or there are only specific goods that can be found here but not on the other.

Even if china won't show their closeness with Russia, we can still figure it out because there are witnesses and they can spread the information that they see between these two countries online. They can't keep it a secret.

Its because China also has the intention of 'invading' or taking back Taiwan so it would feel funny to impose sanctions on Russia for invading Ukraine when they will do the same thing in the near future. Aside from that, China mostly do the opposite of what the US and europe do just to show that they have the supremacy to do so


Both Russia and NATO ( US ) are sly dogs that wants something from Ukraine. This could have taken the other way around instead of going for the war option


The fact is that even if they occupied Ukraine somehow, they will be inches away from NATO as well because they will need to relocate some of their military to safe guard the occupied area otherwise it would be taken back

I definitely agree with your statement.

With China being the number one country for exporting not only products but also manpower, I doubt that countries would impose sanctions as they also benefit from this country. With manpower and labor relatively cheap for doing business, countries around the world rely on China in assembling their products or doing labor for the production of their goods.

China has all the power to at least trade normally with Russia as they are confident enough to understand that other countries need them also.

China and Russia are allies who both want to strangle the US little by little. See what sectors Russia wants to re-establish? The Soviet Union seemed about to be awakened from its long slumber. Not necessarily Russia's sovereignty is supported by China because it does have the same goal. Where Russia invades Ukraine and China will invade Taiwan in the very near future. Depending on how Russia's position is now unstoppable, even NATO doesn't really want to go any further in Russia and Ukraine.

The trade war has been running since the era of world war 2 ended and that's when China built big aggression to conquer the US. What do we see? The US is too follow-up for now under Biden.

Coz China currently have no problems with Russia, there's really no reason for it to stop trading. In fact, China might benefit from this arrangement. Sanctions would basically push Russia towards China, same way that North Korea ended up. NoKor basically dump their raw goods for cheap on China coz they can't sell it to anyone else.

And what is the EU and NATO going to do to China anyway? It's not like they'd sanction it too just for continuing what it has always done.

They seems to be neutral even though they are on the side of Russia and they are going to trade with everyone since they can make more money by doing it. Meanwhile if the war continues for long then this will be the spark of third world war if I am not wrong and probably the beginning of human extinction since we all have nuclear weapons.

China will make business whoever makes things convenient to them. When Trump sanctioned China in thier trade war, they also felt the negative effect but thier businesses with other countries still go on, particularly with Russia. The sanctions made these countries more resilient and found ways to be sanctioned proof. They didn't change thier system of doing business.

Sanctions hurt thier economy for a while after that, they get used to it and find ways. Like when we were kids that got grounded but after it, we as kids found ways not to get caught again.

Trading normally would be something okay, nobody expects them to have sanctions. As long as China is not overtly and openly supporting Russia and their claims on Ukraine, there is no problem in this situation. I am quite happy that China (which I despise normally) do not really approach this situation as a way to "stick it to west". They love to do that, they keep talking about how much they hate Americans and Europeans, and so does the politicians on the other side do it to Chinese, and then they make deals and have trades because billionaires need each other.

In order for the rich people to make money, they need to build stuff in China and sell in the west. So, China needs to keep it kosher with west, but also show no disconnect with Russia as well.

China is doing so for their economy I guess, they would rather stay neutral and maintain their business since they are mainly into exportation which is a big source for their economy.

But, china buying wheat from Russia is not enough, other countries that makes the most order has decided to cut them off, so that would definitely make a better impact in their GDP, than whatever impact china would make from their import. Remember that it is not just only Europe, but the US as well, and there are also others and more to come, so it is just a matter of time before they begin to feel the heat.

There's no surprise about China's reaction towards this war as they are known to be allies.
And yes, it is true, Russia is just ahead of this invasion. Because China has long been eyeing of this possible Taiwan invasion.
Russia and China are the biggest countries in the world (top 1 & 3, respectively), so high possibility that they can survive on their own.
So even if with this impending cut off in SWIFT with Russia, I believe, Putin already considered this scenario and he has back up plans already.
He wants to go all in in this war, so he knows what he's doing and he's prepared for these possible consequences.
We will see the impact maybe after a month or two after this invasion. Their people will be the most affected on this war crisis.

We all know how Russia's relationship with China, China's relationship with the US and Russia's relationship with the US are, so the war between ukraine and russia will have no effect on china.  China and Russia are strong allies, Besides that, the products of Russia ^{(gas and oil)} are very tempting to many countries.  the US sanctions on Russia must be very happy for China.

What did you expect? You thought China was going to sanction Russia too? China is about to invade Taiwan and soon they will themselves in a similar situation like Russia. It is natural for China to ignore Russia. China, Russia, Iran block can survive forever even if they don't do any trades with the west but can the west survive without the Russian gas&oil? We will see.

Putin already has everything planned out. Before even the attack began he knew the westerners won't interfere and just incase any of them were thinking of doing something, he made a threatening statement to stop such ambition. This Ukraine and Russia war is more of like two siblings fighting and when that's the case you there not come between them as at the end of the day, they might settle and put all the blames on you. Russian is like a big brother to Ukraine, they can settle this if Ukraine wasn't trying to suck NATO's ass.

Russian are just reacting out of paranoid because if they were to lose Ukraine to the NATO then that'll mean they'll be having military personnel and equipment from their enemies inches away from their country which isn't safe. China has no issue with Russia mainly because they don't roll with the westerners. What ever sanctions they implemented doesn't concerned them. They have nothing to gain from the sanctions instead they have all to gain if the westerners were to stop trading with Russia.

You could write a book on why Russia is invading Ukraine - to sum it up for you: Putin wants to maintain national security and relive the glory days of the USSR. Ukraine is getting too close to the west and might've been on the verge of joining NATO, and Putin does not want geopolitical pressure so close to his borders.

Anyway, we already knew China and Russia were indirect allies. This comes as no shock to anyone paying attention to China's foreign policy. China understands the Russian invasion will help them invade Taiwan because they recognize the international community is doing nothing to get involved. China will continue to strengthen their economy and sees no reason to stand diplomatically with the west. For reference, China still supplies North Korea, so their moral compass is exactly aligned with the rest of the world.

I think it is how they show their side of being neutral. If they put sanctions on Russia, Putin will have a bad impression on them so they remain silent about it. Other countries too are like that, if they see China put sanctions and they don't, it's as if they are contradicting they idea ang giving their country bad impression to China, especially countries in SEA, which has current disputes on China. In case a WW3 breaks out, their friendly moves would bring a factor that they won't be a target andthey could go with other solution like diplomacy. It is just my opinion and if a Great leader loves his fellow citizens, he would do everything just let them survive, and we have that kind of leader.

Lol sometimes I just feel China is some kind of a weird country. I am yet to fully understand what really led to this attack on Ukraine, haven’t really seen any news site that would break it down and state the actual reason why they are fighting. But whatever the reason may be, I am not the type of person that supports violence in anything, there are better ways I believe, which things can be done.

Anyways, like the White House has said, the E.U and US sanctions would be a big blow to Russia. But, I think they would have been far much dealt with if China should also do the same thing. Anyways, only China wouldn’t be enough, unless other countries happens to do likewise.

^ I like the mindset of the Chinese government they are very practical when it comes to business and make more money on it. We never know that the Chinese government also have to deal with Ukraine even though China was close to Russia, as we know that country of China is the main source of all goods all over the world. No wonder China trade normally in Russia because they are an allied country but China was not showing it because they are in business and trading goods is one of the sources of their economic growth. Just my opinion only.

China makes more money by exporting goods all around the world so they never going to announce sanctions to any countries because it is going to affect their economic growth. And China is doing this for very long time with the neighbouring countries so they can't really speak out this is immoral.

Chinese banks also imposes some restrictions against Russia but not that much, they remain neutral since China also have dealings with Ukraine and seriously, they are also afraid for the western sanctions so they can’t fully support Russia on their decision to declare war with Ukraine. China also need Russia because as far as I know, they are also suffering for some sanctions and they have to be more friendly with Russia so they can get the supplies they needed, they just can’t afford to intervene especially about the war.

China not stopping trading with Russia is not a surprise all that much. Actually, what surprised me was that China withheld its content for Russia, staying basically neutral regarding a UN condemnation, and that actually speaks volumes on that China will not have Russia's back. But with 50% of Russia's GDP coming from trading with Europe, continuous trading with China will not change all that much in the end. It would have been better, yes, but it won't really save Russia.

China is not a part of the Western world, and it's strong and powerful enough to make its own decisions during the ongoing Russian invasion. Russia and China has a largely friendly relationship, both countries being rules by dictators who've been in power for a while. So I'm not surprised that it's ready to keep trading with Russia because it's in China's economic interests. It will help Russia a bit, but I do believe that it won't be enough for Russia not to take a big hit from sanctions and the ongoing war (because the war costs lots of money as well). The Western world will also suffer from sanctions, as Biden warned even prior to the invasion, but it's strong enough to hold on.
And apart from sanctions, Western countries are also providing military supplies and immense financial aid to Ukraine.

I think Putin has played smart in the reserve money. I also read Russia has a reserve around $600 million billion worth. They have grown that reserve because of this war and can keep trading with China and other Asian countries. The war may gradually stay longer than expected because Putin is vowing to take over the territory of Ukraine.

We will never doubt it because Russia and China are communist allied countries and they would probably have each others back whenever one of them needed support.  These two countries has a good relationship which whatever happen we can say that they were both trade normally with each other even after the war. And I guess there's no reason for China to turn back against Russia and if it will happen I don't know what really happening because they are really known having a good friendship.

One of the largest economy in the world could help to keep stability to Russia's economy? May be this will not be enough but it seems Putin have already planned for it. I saw a data where it shows Russia has 13% of their total reserve in Yuan. They knew a sanction will come so they reduce their dollar reserve to only 16%. A great move from Putin can not deny it.

Of course they will, they're one of the superpower countries and Russia is their communist ally so I am not surprised.that they're going to be doing anything that's going to hinder their trade with Russia and we all know how bad of a violator China is and how many times they've backed out on their word so we should never count them out in any other way as a country that wants to end this war.

The war has finally happened and it's not that simple for all the plots going on.  The two-sided media war, the more visible the fake faces are, the geopolitics is disgusting.  People can see or side with the "media war" spreading false or covering up, but I think that going to the previous step of non-negotiation is a "reason" that has been planned.  available and neither side is "innocent" - they made war
China is being too good a front for Russia and it will be of great "benefit" to Russia's support in the South China Sea.  Today they announced that they will exercise in the South China Sea for the next 3 days, the war situation is "expanding" after the Russian attack Ukraina.
* No one is naive in this war.*

I hope this thing doesn't turn out bad for the world to lead to WW3 because now pity has start to go the way of Ukraine like Russia is being a bully on them and dozens of countries have indicated interest to support Ukraine with some fighting material like anti tanks and other aids like medical support. I think Russia may misinterpret this in time to come to attack one of the supporting countries.

IMO, NATO countries will not interfere in Ukraine's affairs because if they take the wrong actions, there is a risk of a third world war occurring. From the conferences I watched, Putin also threatened foreign countries not to interfere, because if they did, Putin would not hesitate to take more action than they did against Ukraine.

So far, what NATO countries have taken is a discussion path between the two countries to make peace. As usual, the Ukrainian president insisted on asking the NATO parliament for assistance in sending aid. Once again the UK also reminded that once you take reckless actions and show military assistance to Ukraine, there is a big risk of being beaten by the drums of war by Russia. We all know that Putin's character is not easily dictated by other countries. Moreover, allied with China, the business will be longer.

They cannot do anything as Russia is also a powerful country and look what happen to their threat It didn't work Putin still intact with his main objective then putting pressure towards other country who will interfere his plan. And look what happen US didn't plan to attack and thet just let Ukraine alone to defend theirselves. I guess its time for US allies to wake up since they cannot earn back anything in situation like this since US will just wash their hands and will not get involve in terms of physical support.

Cheaper you say? As a result of this war and Russia being the second largest oil producing nation in the world being hit by all of this sanctions, it is expected that the price of oil would skyrocket, why do you think China would be able to get it at a cheaper rate with all that is happening?
I believe every country is first of all loyal and sensitive to their own security, sovereignty and interest, and that is exactly what the U.S. is doing at the moment, i see a couple of people blaming them (U.S.), and i don't see the reason why, Ukraine and Russia have had a long standing feud of which the U.S. has had minimal aggressive interference. Ukraine isn't even a NATO country, so there is really nothing binding the U.S. to intervene militarily. I just feel the U.S has an obligation to first protect lives and properties within their own country, if they get dragged into this, a lot of U.S. citizens would lose their lives with properties and industries destroyed, even if they'll win, but it will come at a cost, and rightfully so they are not willing to do that.

The cold hostility of the two great powers has existed for a long time between the US and China. Here, of course, China will continue to push for full power for Russia both in terms of economy, politics, and terms military weapons. Nothing more and nothing less Russia position cannot be easy for the US to subdue or easy to dictate. The US is currently only playing it safe with European countries, especially Russia, as a part of the Soviet Union, which is still a strong reason to invade to defend its sovereignty.

Each Government will always look after their country's self-interest and nations will only unite if they have a common interest. China sees more benefit in staying neutral on the matter and other countries might continue with their normal dealings with Russia too. India and UAE will most likely follow China's decision since all these 3 abstained to the UN Security Council resolution.

I'm not sure about Venezuela but I can also see Iran and Iraq to remain neutral.

- What can I say? Mutual benefits are there so why not take advantage of it? China right now is in such an advantageous position and right now it intends to capitalize on what is going on to rake in more allies. My enemy's enemy is my friend.

- The sanctions by the US really can't do much about Russia because there are too many loopholes that can be exploited by Russia. US right now is slowly becoming a laughing stock along with the NATO.. But what more can they do? If they do something big, it would end up creating a war that nobody wants to happen, and if they do something small, it won't do much to Russia. At this game of chess, Russia is at a winning end.

- The pitiful Ukraine and it's people got dragged along with the schemes of the US and got left hanging. US has been provoking Russia time and time again with their schemes. Too bad Ukraine failed to notice or just ignored the fact that they are being used just for a bit of short-term benefits.

I would be surprised if the opposite happens, which is that China has imposed sanctions on Russia. China is benefiting from what is happening, as it can import oil and gas cheaper than international prices. Therefore, punishing Russia means wasting a lot of raw resources.

In general, a natural word will be determined by the extent of the success of what is happening now. China will monitor the situation carefully to determine how international foreign policy will be. I do not think that Western countries think that China will impose any form of sanctions on Russia.

The cornerstone will be the extent of the progress of operations in Ukraine and the impact of the global economy, especially in Europe, on oil prices.

I also expect countries like Iran, Iraq and Venezuela to witness more stability.

Actually China do not have good relations with USA and they do not agree on any call from the USA. Because the sanctions started from USA and they called their allies to follow so China is not showing themselves as the allies of USA.

As the 2nd largest economy in the world, I think China is where Russia can turn to for some help in the economic sector. If China’s statements said that it is not an “invasion”, then perhaps in the future when they invade Taiwan, they wouldn’t call it an “invasion” as well despite it violates sovereignty rights.

Those countries who imposed sanctions can do just that, but not actually helping Ukraine in fighting the war against Russia. For me, it’s not a good move if NATO intervenes within the Ukraine-Russia war. Unless if Russia targets at least one NATO country, expect a full response from those NATO countries including the US and may escalate into a 3rd World War.

India, China have no need to disassociate themselves from Russia because they are aligns. They have no problem with trade and are not from Europe, so no point to support the sanctions but to continue trading freely with Russia. Again they are not part of the 30 NATO members that are made mainly countries from Europe and two north American countries (Canada and US). Therefore no point to follow in the sanction.


Russia is not just a push off in the midst of the European countries. In fact it happens to be one of the biggest economy and resourceful to the European economy and you see the reason the countries are yet to cut of from her oil and gas trade. Russia has a military force that is really big coupled with her economic ability. Now China and India are also in good relationship with Russia.

These countries are allies and sanctions will not let them interfere despite many countries will join in giving sanctions but these countries are more focus in their business and that they know how the economy will be affected. Russia in other ways know these at first that China will still support them even there are many countries who will against them.

The Chinese leadership have always been close to Russia and it is mostly a one way trade. The only thing that Russia has to offer China is natural resources and China will happily take advantage of the situation, but Russia will earn a fraction of the amount they could be selling oil and gas for in Europe. Beyond energy supplies and probably a few other commodities, Russia is useless to China. China is playing a strategic game, where they make the most from Europe and USA, but want to keep a convenient dictatorship in power to agitate these countries. If the opportunity ever arises, probably necessitating neutralizing nuclear weapons, then China would take over Russia in a heart beat. The are friends of convenience, but it can be dropped by either side in a second if it becomes useful to re-align.

That’s because they and other countries like India, China and one more is there are directly involved in strategic partnerships with USA, UK and Russia. The thing is, if they give direct support to Russia or if they don’t support Russia they will get negative impression from both side.

I mean they have proper business and proper treaties with all the nations above so why would they show their support directly?

It’s not like they are gonna work normally with them, it’s just that they have commercial relationships with many countries and they do not want to be part of the WAR and any decisions made thereafter.

It is basically clear that following the invasion of Ukraine by Russia, the only response from the U.S. U.K. and other European power houses would be via sanctions, aimed at crippling the Russian economy (i doubt the possibility though, considering how important Russia is to Europe), but having said that, these countries have gone ahead to stand true with their threats and imposed a couple of sanctions, and according to them, "many more to come", but one significant country that is yet to follow suit is China, as they claim their business with Russia with continue normally, see this excerpt:
From the above, it does not look like China has any intentions of joining the mass in imposing sanctions on Russia for invading Ukraine a couple of days ago. If China takes this direction, wouldn't it also encourage other countries to do likewise, and if the sanctions isn't a sweeping one, then it might not have the desired negative effect on Russia that the Eurpean union, U.S and U.K. wants it to have, though the U.S doesn't think that way, see the excerpt below:
Do you agree with the above? In my opinion i think they may be correct, but it would definitely be much better and could stop Russia's invasion of Ukraine sooner if all countries unite to impose sanctions. There is another very important aspect to the news:
I think the above highlights the importance of Russian oil and gas to the world, and as a result do you think it is possible for Russia to face complete isolation? Is Russia more important to Europe, than Europe is to Russia? It is also clear that any sanction imposed would affect the both parties, so to what end is it? What is the possible solution, if any?

Read the full news: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/25/chinas-trade-with-russia-wont-offset-sanctions-us-says.html