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legendary
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April 13, 2022, 06:45:35 PM
#15
War is expensive atm. Expensive enough that expansionism could be a difficult goal to achieve.

We can see russia engaging in heavy cost cutting measures in their war with ukraine. Putin deploys conscript troopers as they are by far the lowest paid option. Putin refrains from deploying jet fighters and bombers to avoid the cost of upkeep and maintenance and also to avoid using expensive smart bombs and missiles. While laser guided munitions are impressive, they also tend to cost near to the same as a lamborghini. Can any nation shoulder the expense of launching a never ending stream of lambo priced missiles at foreign enemies?

From russia's example it seems likely china would bankrupt itself if it attempted a massive campaign of expansionism. The cost of US wars in iraq and afghanistan topped $12 trillion in expenses and achieved little.

We may be living in an era where modern armies could theoretically conquer the earth but the effort would be too expensive for any nation to afford it.
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April 12, 2022, 10:26:41 AM
#14
Everyone will benefit from the construction of such a road. Cargo transportation will be carried out faster and there will be new opportunities for our countries to take part in the trade. Perhaps the cost of transporting goods will be lower and, as a result, the cost of goods may be significantly less. But now it is too early to talk about the construction of such a road. We are all waiting for the end of the war and the stabilization of the situation in the world.


Its ready all ready or need to stArt building ??
It's being rebuilt but concerns came out because of debt. China is offering other countries funds to build their railways and roads for the Silk Road and it raised a lot of questions. Like billions of dollars debt almost equal to 1/4 of annual GDP of a country. So the question is, Is Silk Road really for sharing or are they trying something else just for their own benefit?
There should be a clear blueprint on how the system will work and I can see China is eager to make this happen because they are on top of mass producing any items.
This happened because China had the power to build the Silk Road, so it would be easier for them to distribute their products. and for the destination country, of course the construction of this route is for long-term calculations, considering the large budget spent. this has become China's strategy to develop its economy and make a country dependent on it. Therefore, for countries that do not have good independence, they seem to be a colony of China in terms of economy
legendary
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April 11, 2022, 12:16:37 PM
#13
Right now there is war china cant build nothing
They wait when war over then they start china road to netherland the road will go trhough greece to ukraine to moscow so its better way to move goods to russia and europe from china.
Ukraine will be one of the most important location to connect new silk road with moscow.
The plan is financed and everybody waiting once putin done then china start build.

Its good news for europe economy better relationships with china

The silk road goes two ways. China is acting pretty disgracefully in supporting Russia's actions in Ukraine and it will not be thought of as a friendly trading partner if it continues. There is no excuse for Russia's war against a country that simply wants to decide it's own destiny and China is showing that it is only interested in propping up other dictatorships. Europe does get a lot of cheaper, mass produced goods from China, but China also relies heavily on the trade because domestic consumption is still growing and there is still extreme poverty in some parts of China. The silk road both new and old has always bypassed Russia, so this war isn't exactly stopping anything right now.
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April 11, 2022, 11:51:31 AM
#12
Everyone will benefit from the construction of such a road. Cargo transportation will be carried out faster and there will be new opportunities for our countries to take part in the trade. Perhaps the cost of transporting goods will be lower and, as a result, the cost of goods may be significantly less. But now it is too early to talk about the construction of such a road. We are all waiting for the end of the war and the stabilization of the situation in the world.


Its ready all ready or need to stArt building ??
It's being rebuilt but concerns came out because of debt. China is offering other countries funds to build their railways and roads for the Silk Road and it raised a lot of questions. Like billions of dollars debt almost equal to 1/4 of annual GDP of a country. So the question is, Is Silk Road really for sharing or are they trying something else just for their own benefit?
There should be a clear blueprint on how the system will work and I can see China is eager to make this happen because they are on top of mass producing any items.
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April 11, 2022, 11:02:46 AM
#11
Everyone will benefit from the construction of such a road. Cargo transportation will be carried out faster and there will be new opportunities for our countries to take part in the trade. Perhaps the cost of transporting goods will be lower and, as a result, the cost of goods may be significantly less. But now it is too early to talk about the construction of such a road. We are all waiting for the end of the war and the stabilization of the situation in the world.


Its ready all ready or need to stArt building ??
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April 11, 2022, 11:01:54 AM
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Everyone will benefit from the construction of such a road. Cargo transportation will be carried out faster and there will be new opportunities for our countries to take part in the trade. Perhaps the cost of transporting goods will be lower and, as a result, the cost of goods may be significantly less. But now it is too early to talk about the construction of such a road. We are all waiting for the end of the war and the stabilization of the situation in the world.
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April 11, 2022, 10:41:45 AM
#9
Right now there is war china cant build nothing
They wait when war over then they start china road to netherland the road will go trhough greece to ukraine to moscow so its better way to move goods to russia and europe from china.
Ukraine will be one of the most important location to connect new silk road with moscow.
The plan is financed and everybody waiting once putin done then china start build.

Its good news for europe economy better relationships with china

Yes, this will help China to flood international markets with their Cheap and Below-standard products. The way it has captured majority of Africa with such products, Europe will soon see such things happening to their markets as well. OBOR is a project that will help only China and no one else. European manufacturers will not be able to cope up with the competition because the labor is not cheap in EU. Slowly the local manufacturing units will either shut down or will be purchased by Chinese companies.

Slowly, EU will see the true color of communism and predatory business practices which British people used to apply to their colonies 100 years back.

If you love your country, boycott everything that is made in China.



How to boycot? From where to get it the n ?
Not british. British empire is old empire now its a germany dutch and new york EMPIRE STATE wall street empire who rules over everything british is old myth just but not anymore
legendary
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April 11, 2022, 10:31:46 AM
#8
Right now there is war china cant build nothing
They wait when war over then they start china road to netherland the road will go trhough greece to ukraine to moscow so its better way to move goods to russia and europe from china.
Ukraine will be one of the most important location to connect new silk road with moscow.
The plan is financed and everybody waiting once putin done then china start build.

Its good news for europe economy better relationships with china

Yes, this will help China to flood international markets with their Cheap and Below-standard products. The way it has captured majority of Africa with such products, Europe will soon see such things happening to their markets as well. OBOR is a project that will help only China and no one else. European manufacturers will not be able to cope up with the competition because the labor is not cheap in EU. Slowly the local manufacturing units will either shut down or will be purchased by Chinese companies.

Slowly, EU will see the true color of communism and predatory business practices which British people used to apply to their colonies 100 years back.

If you love your country, boycott everything that is made in China.
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April 11, 2022, 07:56:02 AM
#7
China has always aspired to form a silk road which would link their trade globally… but this would also be a problem,, because in the south china sea they claim that their territory corresponds to the trade routes of the past, when it is clear that it is an EEZ area of countries in the southeast asia region,, this is something that many people need to pay attention to,, don't let China take advantage of this to expand their coverage area
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April 11, 2022, 07:46:35 AM
#6
Moscow, St Petersberg and many places like kyiv (Ukraine) and Helsinki (Finland) were well connected to Russia by trains and roads - as soon as things got too uncomfortable for those countries the infrastructure was dismantled or barracaded to make it unusable.

A road that connected a lot of these countries probably already exists, the only issue is China can't connect their infrastructure very well in the west of their country. I think if it was actually possible for them to do it, they'd already have done it.

(most goods are already transported within Europe on trucks because the rail networks for a lot of countries (especially in Western Europe) have been incompatible from what I remember).
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April 11, 2022, 07:25:08 AM
#5
I found it was old road/route used in slave trade 


This has been a slave trade route in time past as I searched to know about the road. I think China is now considering to make the road useful to access Europe and other parts of the continent from there especially now with the war in Ukraine that has opened more countries to the reality of having roads to access points of need on land when no flight zone is approved. Well China at this road will be making her presence felt in world economy and accessibility of her trading destination with ease.
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April 11, 2022, 06:17:49 AM
#4
Here's link to recent article about the project written by Ai Weiwei, so the article has interesting point of view and not "official" propaganda.  It's already partially ready. In general huge $900B project. Anyway, have to raise hat for China building such things across continents. Weiwei sees it as a power grab, which is partially true, but it has also huge positive impact on local economies and connections. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/19/ai-weiwei-new-silk-road-chinese-power-grab.
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April 11, 2022, 05:06:26 AM
#3
If you have heard about it, this is not a new idea, China has had this plan for a long time, the maritime Silk Road to be exact, and that is why I see radio problems. as well as when the East Sea area between Vietnam, Indonesia, and the Philippines is deeply interfered with by China. Their dominant intentions have always been there, not only in modern times but also in the past before that.


Well if you know the future its easy to think what will be happening today or tomorrow.
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April 11, 2022, 03:37:01 AM
#2
If you have heard about it, this is not a new idea, China has had this plan for a long time, the maritime Silk Road to be exact, and that is why I see radio problems. as well as when the East Sea area between Vietnam, Indonesia, and the Philippines is deeply interfered with by China. Their dominant intentions have always been there, not only in modern times but also in the past before that.
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April 11, 2022, 03:20:08 AM
#1
Right now there is war china cant build nothing
They wait when war over then they start china road to netherland the road will go trhough greece to ukraine to moscow so its better way to move goods to russia and europe from china.
Ukraine will be one of the most important location to connect new silk road with moscow.
The plan is financed and everybody waiting once putin done then china start build.

Its good news for europe economy better relationships with china
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