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Topic: [Ciphersmail]A fast, simple, encryted email system[No token][open source] (Read 495 times)

newbie
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What kind of people gonna need this mail system other than blackhat or blockchain enthusiasts? You may need donation due to the limited need.

Yes.For now, our users will be blackhat or blockchain enthusiasts, but i believe more and more people will need anonymous in the future, then we will be a good choice for them.
 We have a small fund to run this project , and we will release some payment functions in the future.

Everything will be ok!

Thank you Smiley
As long as you believe in what you are doing and input all your efforts, you will achieve something even your product may not end in success.
However, I wish your product can be successful as I may need it.  Wink

Thank you! We will do it nice !
That's good, all the best.
copper member
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What kind of people gonna need this mail system other than blackhat or blockchain enthusiasts? You may need donation due to the limited need.

Yes.For now, our users will be blackhat or blockchain enthusiasts, but i believe more and more people will need anonymous in the future, then we will be a good choice for them.
 We have a small fund to run this project , and we will release some payment functions in the future.

Everything will be ok!

Thank you Smiley
As long as you believe in what you are doing and input all your efforts, you will achieve something even your product may not end in success.
However, I wish your product can be successful as I may need it.  Wink

Thank you! We will do it nice !
newbie
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What kind of people gonna need this mail system other than blackhat or blockchain enthusiasts? You may need donation due to the limited need.

Yes.For now, our users will be blackhat or blockchain enthusiasts, but i believe more and more people will need anonymous in the future, then we will be a good choice for them.
 We have a small fund to run this project , and we will release some payment functions in the future.

Everything will be ok!

Thank you Smiley
As long as you believe in what you are doing and input all your efforts, you will achieve something even your product may not end in success.
However, I wish your product can be successful as I may need it.  Wink
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ALL people joined tg before 30/12 will get a little gift  Smiley
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Your intention is cool and now everything depends on whether you are able to realize your intention as you want. I think you should involve high qualified seftware developers to create really an useful and reliable system. Even though you will not be probably able to compete with such the monsters like public Gmail, corporate Exchange and Bind, anyway you may create something really new which can score the mentioned earlier software in some parameters. Keep going to your aim and likely you will achieve a success. Willing is not enough  you gotta do. This is not magic because magic is believing in yourself, if you can do that, you can make anything happen.
I keep going to utilize Gmail unless you invent a new great email service.


Yes, you are right. We need high qualified developers , and we already have two, it is so lucky. We are believing that we can make it becomes ture! There are lots of service on the internet, every service are going to solve different problems, That's cool and it is why we are doing a mail system although we can see several service like us on the internet. Don't worry sir! one day, when you need to protect your privacy ,you will remember us!

Thank you
copper member
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This idea looks very interesting. However, I do not fully understand what this is for? There is such a project as Telegram, for most people this messenger is enough.
The idea indeed is not a new one but we have different products serving purpose. The core of the recipe remains the same but condiments differ. For instance, we have many search engines and browsers. The main purpose is same, to browse and surf the internet. However, each have unique property or different ration of similar properties. Brave, being the securest and chrome giving the most features. Similarly, the guy may come up with a new cool feature in this project.

Yes. 'Ethereum address as a identity' is what actually we want to do. Connect users between real world and blockchian system. Your identity , account ,assets , will be connected smoothly by our service!
sr. member
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This idea looks very interesting. However, I do not fully understand what this is for? There is such a project as Telegram, for most people this messenger is enough.
The idea indeed is not a new one but we have different products serving purpose. The core of the recipe remains the same but condiments differ. For instance, we have many search engines and browsers. The main purpose is same, to browse and surf the internet. However, each have unique property or different ration of similar properties. Brave, being the securest and chrome giving the most features. Similarly, the guy may come up with a new cool feature in this project.
jr. member
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Your intention is cool and now everything depends on whether you are able to realize your intention as you want. I think you should involve high qualified seftware developers to create really an useful and reliable system. Even though you will not be probably able to compete with such the monsters like public Gmail, corporate Exchange and Bind, anyway you may create something really new which can score the mentioned earlier software in some parameters. Keep going to your aim and likely you will achieve a success. Willing is not enough  you gotta do. This is not magic because magic is believing in yourself, if you can do that, you can make anything happen.
I keep going to utilize Gmail unless you invent a new great email service.
copper member
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What kind of people gonna need this mail system other than blackhat or blockchain enthusiasts? You may need donation due to the limited need.

Yes.For now, our users will be blackhat or blockchain enthusiasts, but i believe more and more people will need anonymous in the future, then we will be a good choice for them.
 We have a small fund to run this project , and we will release some payment functions in the future.

Everything will be ok!

Thank you Smiley
newbie
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What kind of people gonna need this mail system other than blackhat or blockchain enthusiasts? You may need donation due to the limited need.
copper member
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I think if you would like to be anonymous, Ethereum blockchain is not the best choice in case of anonymity. Try to find some other blockchains that are fitting better in your philosophy, but for me it would be good enough to use ETH.

However Ethereum is not a good anonymity blockchian system, we have considered about that, But we need a useful, widely userd, Stable , secure blockchain system, and we will use smart contract in the future. So maybe Ethereum is the best choice for now.
If we have the other good choice , we can fork the code and build mail system on that , it is not diffcult !


Thank you!
copper member
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This idea looks very interesting. However, I do not fully understand what this is for? There is such a project as Telegram, for most people this messenger is enough.


We already have lots of anonymous messenger applications, but we need a real anonymous email system.
You can't register website by tg account ,can't transfer money by tg or can't send a receipt from tg , you still need a mail system.

Thank you
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I think if you would like to be anonymous, Ethereum blockchain is not the best choice in case of anonymity. Try to find some other blockchains that are fitting better in your philosophy, but for me it would be good enough to use ETH.
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This idea looks very interesting. However, I do not fully understand what this is for? There is such a project as Telegram, for most people this messenger is enough.
copper member
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I have created a tg group. https://t.me/ciphersmail

Please join in and feel free to ask me anything.

Smiley
copper member
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You mean "hashing" rather than encryption?

I guess this has been done already, probably on Bitcoin Blockchain. It should exist on Ethereum Blockchain aswell. But I doubt this will work on large scale due to the limitation of Blockchain. unless you plan to build it on centralized platform or other kind of decentralized system.



We are using Publickey&Privatekey of Ethereum , because it is safu. As you know blockchain system is not efficient enough to run a mail system. So we will build a centralized server but the data in the server will be encryppted and the code will open source. We must choose a correct way between fully decentralized and efficient, as our goal is to make users anonymous ,so we choose a efficient way to make the idea becomes ture.

Keep users anonymous! That's the thing we need to do!

Thank you!
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You mean "hashing" rather than encryption?

I guess this has been done already, probably on Bitcoin Blockchain. It should exist on Ethereum Blockchain aswell. But I doubt this will work on large scale due to the limitation of Blockchain. unless you plan to build it on centralized platform or other kind of decentralized system.

copper member
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Just wondering that building a new mail system which can provide anonymous mail system and protect mail safu from attacking.

We are planing to use Ethereum, public key & private key are mapping to the only mail address.
When you send mail in this system, your mail will be encrypted by receiver's public key, and receiver need private key to decrypt the mail for reading.

This a Peer-to-peer encryption mail system , and it also simple , fast , easy to use!
We will open source at next month.


I know there are several anonymous (probably not) secure emails like protonmail, but what you want to create will be much different and reliable. So, do you have enough power to create it? Because it does not look easy from my view.

Hi sir. We have participated in several blockchain projects . We are sure that we can build this project .And we are also looking for developers to join our open source community.

Smiley
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Mail service on the blockchain, this is something new. And although it is possible to send messages in transactions of the Bitcoin for a long time, there was not yet a full-fledged mail service on the blockchain. I think if you get a competent implementation, you will have satisfied users in your project.
Very true. if this really exists and works optimally the mail service uses blockchain technology. if this project happens and works to its full potential, it is likely to rival Gmail, Yahoo or other mail services. Blockchain anonymity is very awake or very privacy, everyone wants it.


Thanks for your words.In my opinion , this is a 'Niche' , we can sovle the problems like anonymous mail, Cross border mail receipt , Website anonymous account ..etc . The ueser will be who want to protect the privacy , we don't need huge number of users, but we need peoples like us ,they will be our ‘Loyalty Users’. HAHA!
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Just wondering that building a new mail system which can provide anonymous mail system and protect mail safu from attacking.

We are planing to use Ethereum, public key & private key are mapping to the only mail address.
When you send mail in this system, your mail will be encrypted by receiver's public key, and receiver need private key to decrypt the mail for reading.

This a Peer-to-peer encryption mail system , and it also simple , fast , easy to use!
We will open source at next month.


I know there are several anonymous (probably not) secure emails like protonmail, but what you want to create will be much different and reliable. So, do you have enough power to create it? Because it does not look easy from my view.
copper member
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Sounds great about encryption but as long as it's completely remaining as an idea we can't see the pros and cons of it. When exactly next month you will publish the project? are you going to introduce the developers of it?

Yes, you are right. We want to talk about this project and collect more suggestions. We will publish the beta version next month, at these time we have only 2 devs, and as we have no plan to issue a token or crowdsale so we want to keep anonymous now. Thank you !
That would be great if it's going to be a pure service without having a token or crowd sale. Good luck to this project but I think this is going to be costly for the team but if you can attain to build this interesting idea, once it has been launched I think it would be a very usable system.

Yes, mail service will cost lot of money. We will release some payment functions!

Thank you sir!
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Sounds great about encryption but as long as it's completely remaining as an idea we can't see the pros and cons of it. When exactly next month you will publish the project? are you going to introduce the developers of it?

Yes, you are right. We want to talk about this project and collect more suggestions. We will publish the beta version next month, at these time we have only 2 devs, and as we have no plan to issue a token or crowdsale so we want to keep anonymous now. Thank you !
That would be great if it's going to be a pure service without having a token or crowd sale. Good luck to this project but I think this is going to be costly for the team but if you can attain to build this interesting idea, once it has been launched I think it would be a very usable system.
copper member
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Mail service on the blockchain, this is something new. And although it is possible to send messages in transactions of the Bitcoin for a long time, there was not yet a full-fledged mail service on the blockchain. I think if you get a competent implementation, you will have satisfied users in your project.

Ya ,maybe you can be one of the beta users! lol
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Sounds great about encryption but as long as it's completely remaining as an idea we can't see the pros and cons of it. When exactly next month you will publish the project? are you going to introduce the developers of it?

Yes, you are right. We want to talk about this project and collect more suggestions. We will publish the beta version next month, at these time we have only 2 devs, and as we have no plan to issue a token or crowdsale so we want to keep anonymous now. Thank you !
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Sounds great about encryption but as long as it's completely remaining as an idea we can't see the pros and cons of it. When exactly next month you will publish the project? are you going to introduce the developers of it?
copper member
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Just wondering that building a new mail system which can provide anonymous mail system and protect mail safu from attacking.

We are planing to use Ethereum, public key & private key are mapping to the only mail address.
When you send mail in this system, your mail will be encrypted by your public key, and you need private key to unlock the mail for reading.

This a Peer-to-peer encryption mail system , and it also simple , fast , easy to use!
We will open source at next month.



It's a clearly great idea but remember this kind of system maybe abused by the people who hunting for an airdrops. They will spamming making many different account with many addresses to join an airdrops, so this kind of system will make them easier to abuse and it will make the database will fill the storage really fast.

Yes, the database is a problem, but we have solutions to solve it.
Spammers are everywhere, register a new mail is easy ,so what we should is making a filter.

Thank you my friend!
Will you apply phone number verification for that? We have some centralized platform like google who have already implemented this and that's very effective to prevent the spammers.
Another problem should be the priv key that must be used to open the email. For me, it's much better when your platform will not directly use priv key as a key to open the email consider about it's a very sensitive case.
It should be a good idea to create another encryption for the privatekey and that can be used to open the email.
I just think about there was a lot of the trap in the internet.
It's too risky use priv key as a key to sign in on your email.

You can think it is just like 'Myetherwallet' , we prefer users to import their keystore and they have the password for the keystore, then users can use it to login, sendind mail or decrypt mail ..etc

We won't do verification for user phone because we need to make sure users are anonymous!

Thanks for your questions!
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Just wondering that building a new mail system which can provide anonymous mail system and protect mail safu from attacking.

We are planing to use Ethereum, public key & private key are mapping to the only mail address.
When you send mail in this system, your mail will be encrypted by your public key, and you need private key to unlock the mail for reading.

This a Peer-to-peer encryption mail system , and it also simple , fast , easy to use!
We will open source at next month.



It's a clearly great idea but remember this kind of system maybe abused by the people who hunting for an airdrops. They will spamming making many different account with many addresses to join an airdrops, so this kind of system will make them easier to abuse and it will make the database will fill the storage really fast.

Yes, the database is a problem, but we have solutions to solve it.
Spammers are everywhere, register a new mail is easy ,so what we should is making a filter.

Thank you my friend!
Will you apply phone number verification for that? We have some centralized platform like google who have already implemented this and that's very effective to prevent the spammers.
Another problem should be the priv key that must be used to open the email. For me, it's much better when your platform will not directly use priv key as a key to open the email consider about it's a very sensitive case.
It should be a good idea to create another encryption for the privatekey and that can be used to open the email.
I just think about there was a lot of the trap in the internet.
It's too risky use priv key as a key to sign in on your email.
sr. member
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Mail service on the blockchain, this is something new. And although it is possible to send messages in transactions of the Bitcoin for a long time, there was not yet a full-fledged mail service on the blockchain. I think if you get a competent implementation, you will have satisfied users in your project.
Very true. if this really exists and works optimally the mail service uses blockchain technology. if this project happens and works to its full potential, it is likely to rival Gmail, Yahoo or other mail services. Blockchain anonymity is very awake or very privacy, everyone wants it.
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Your idea is brilliant and your choice of ethereum network will expose your service to a ready market.

I like the idea of using the public key inn the mail system but i do not support that of the private key, you may use something else like mnemonic phrase to represent the ethereum private key otherwise your service shall turn to a ready hunting ground for wallet hackers.
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Mail service on the blockchain, this is something new. And although it is possible to send messages in transactions of the Bitcoin for a long time, there was not yet a full-fledged mail service on the blockchain. I think if you get a competent implementation, you will have satisfied users in your project.
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Just wondering that building a new mail system which can provide anonymous mail system and protect mail safu from attacking.

We are planing to use Ethereum, public key & private key are mapping to the only mail address.
When you send mail in this system, your mail will be encrypted by your public key, and you need private key to unlock the mail for reading.

This a Peer-to-peer encryption mail system , and it also simple , fast , easy to use!
We will open source at next month.



It's a clearly great idea but remember this kind of system maybe abused by the people who hunting for an airdrops. They will spamming making many different account with many addresses to join an airdrops, so this kind of system will make them easier to abuse and it will make the database will fill the storage really fast.

Yes, the database is a problem, but we have solutions to solve it.
Spammers are everywhere, register a new mail is easy ,so what we should is making a filter.

Thank you my friend!
copper member
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Just wondering that building a new mail system which can provide anonymous mail system and protect mail safu from attacking.

We are planing to use Ethereum, public key & private key are mapping to the only mail address.
When you send mail in this system, your mail will be encrypted by your public key, and you need private key to unlock the mail for reading.

This a Peer-to-peer encryption mail system , and it also simple , fast , easy to use!
We will open source at next month.

I am not sure what you want to do, but if it's an e-mail system that can send mails to anybody - including traditional e-mail addresses -, your idea will become the heaven of spammers and could destroy the project and the underlying coin too if it's not powerful enough (when govt. agencies will come after the spammers).

So while truly anonymous and safu sounds great, if you don't have logs to save you in case of anything, you may get into trouble.


Of course, you can disappear like Satoshi, but unlike him, if your invention will be ultimate tool for spammers, you won't be loved.

All the things we are building is to protect anonymous and data safety.

As you know this is a p2p mail system, so if you sent mail to traditional e-mail addresses or received mail from traditional e-mail addresses, that won't be encrypted but you are still keeping 'anonymous'.

We have consider about spammer email. We have some solutions below:

1.  We can build a vote page for spam mail address
2.  We can find the Spammer by our own black list
3.  As you are using Ethereum account, if you want to use our mail system for business, you can set a receive fee, people who sending mail to you without pay will be filtered.

We have considered about lot of bad things , and most of the questions are already have answers.

Thanks for you questions!
Please keep in touch with us!
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When you send mail in this system, your mail will be encrypted by your public key, and you need private key to unlock the mail for reading.


FYI, this is wrong. It has to be encrypted by the reciever's public key, not your public key.

It has to be encrypted by your reciever's public key to ensure only they can decrypt it, and it has to be signed by your private key so they know it's coming from you.


Yes, you are right .I typed wrong. Thank you sir, the mistake has been fixed!
newbie
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When you send mail in this system, your mail will be encrypted by your public key, and you need private key to unlock the mail for reading.


FYI, this is wrong. It has to be encrypted by the reciever's public key, not your public key.

It has to be encrypted by your reciever's public key to ensure only they can decrypt it, and it has to be signed by your private key so they know it's coming from you.
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Just wondering that building a new mail system which can provide anonymous mail system and protect mail safu from attacking.

We are planing to use Ethereum, public key & private key are mapping to the only mail address.
When you send mail in this system, your mail will be encrypted by your public key, and you need private key to unlock the mail for reading.

This a Peer-to-peer encryption mail system , and it also simple , fast , easy to use!
We will open source at next month.



It's a clearly great idea but remember this kind of system maybe abused by the people who hunting for an airdrops. They will spamming making many different account with many addresses to join an airdrops, so this kind of system will make them easier to abuse and it will make the database will fill the storage really fast.
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Well.. for that to work as far as I know you will have to create a decentralized network of nodes that also provide data storage functionality - because where are all those emails be stored? Of course that the data nodes should be  encrypted. To achieve true decentralization you need quite a good amount of nodes in the network spread across the world so you might have to take that into account. Wish you good luck with your project and I'll follow the development.

Yes, we need to store the data, but it's store at the server not in blockchain. Because our goal is to build a p2p mail system, every data will be encrypted by users public key , that means nobody can see the data except for the private key controller ,just like the eth in your ethereum address. We must make sure , this system is esay , low cost and fast. So you can think it is a hybrid system.

Btw , we are so glad to see the questions and advices ! Thank you!
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Since you mentioned 'anonymous' mailing system,  I think a privacy-focused infrastructure would be more appropriate. However,  the idea of using the public key for encryption and the private key for decryption seems like a workable alternative.
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Just wondering that building a new mail system which can provide anonymous mail system and protect mail safu from attacking.

We are planing to use Ethereum, public key & private key are mapping to the only mail address.
When you send mail in this system, your mail will be encrypted by your public key, and you need private key to unlock the mail for reading.

This a Peer-to-peer encryption mail system , and it also simple , fast , easy to use!
We will open source at next month.

I am not sure what you want to do, but if it's an e-mail system that can send mails to anybody - including traditional e-mail addresses -, your idea will become the heaven of spammers and could destroy the project and the underlying coin too if it's not powerful enough (when govt. agencies will come after the spammers).

So while truly anonymous and safu sounds great, if you don't have logs to save you in case of anything, you may get into trouble.


Of course, you can disappear like Satoshi, but unlike him, if your invention will be ultimate tool for spammers, you won't be loved.
legendary
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Well.. for that to work as far as I know you will have to create a decentralized network of nodes that also provide data storage functionality - because where are all those emails be stored? Of course that the data nodes should be  encrypted. To achieve true decentralization you need quite a good amount of nodes in the network spread across the world so you might have to take that into account. Wish you good luck with your project and I'll follow the development.
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Thanks for your good advice. I really impressed with this idea.
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If you want to provide a completely anonymous system why do not you use cryptonight protocol?
there was a project wanted to create the same thing as yours(but they decided to stop it because they were busy with their real life and other stuff),
cryptonight is a privacy-oriented protocol.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-xvv-veronite-a-multi-platform-brand-pow-airdrop-cn-heavy-4872144 is the project that I mentioned above.

Maybe cryptonight is a good choice. But at these time , Ethereum have a lot of users and system is safe and stable operation.
Peoples are get used to use the chrome plugin wallet, like metamask , dapper , Mew ..etc
Mail system is just the first applicatioon, we want to create a Ethereum identity for people in the internet or any other web server at finally!

Thanks for your advice! We are very glad to hear the suggestions and we want to attract anybody to join the open source community.
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If you want to provide a completely anonymous system why do not you use cryptonight protocol?
there was a project wanted to create the same thing as yours(but they decided to stop it because they were busy with their real life and other stuff),
cryptonight is a privacy-oriented protocol.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-xvv-veronite-a-multi-platform-brand-pow-airdrop-cn-heavy-4872144 is the project that I mentioned above.
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Just wondering that building a new mail system which can provide anonymous mail server and protect mail safu from attacking.

We are planing to use Ethereum, public key & private key are mapping to the only mail address.
When you send mail in this system, your mail will be encrypted by receiver's public key, and receiver need private key to decrypt the mail for reading.

This a Peer-to-peer encryption mail system , and it also simple , fast , easy to use!
We will open source at next month.

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