Topic: Claressa Shields Vs. Keith Thurman?! (Read 253 times)

Thurman would not get credit if he fought a lady boxer, because if he wins, people would think that it's not a big deal since his opponent is a woman. And if he loses, that's a big embarrassment on his part. I see something behind why this fight conversation exists. Maybe Shields finds Thurman to be like a woman because he talks too much, and that's why she wants to shut him up in the ring.

It is possible that this ruckus is one way of creating controversies to boost their popularity and at the same time if given a chance earn huge amount of paycheck while giving some of the proceeds to charity.  Boxing is a sports and entertainment industry but business on top of that.  If the commission sees a huge profit potential on this one, I believe they will make this fight realized under exhibition fight.

I don't know but if anyone thinks that this exchange of words is staged, I also got the same feeling that this fight if ever executed will be rigged following certain script to avoid unnecessary damages, especially for Shields. 

The way I look at it, with the statistics of Shields, I believe Thurman won't flinch receiving punches from Shields.

I guess these all started when these so-called feminists believed that they could do the same job that a man can do. Well, they are right about that but not in all cases and situation because there is a fine line between that divides us from doing what a male and female can do. What should they do is to focus on their sports which is the women's boxing, but I guess they are now trying to climb the fence because it is clear that they aren't making that much money on their own sports.

Back to the discussion, it's quite an embarrassment for Keith Thurman because he had been chosen as the target of Claressa Shields but he cannot do anything aside from keeping his mouth shut as this kind of situation doesn't require an answer as the flame will just get bigger if he do so.

This is a hundred percent rubbish and this is not something you can be proud of when you win against a female athlete when you are a man. boxing is not something you want to see a man and a woman fight inside the ring because they are both different in strength and capability. They should stop these kinds of provokes against female athletes the last time I heard about this one was when that female athlete wanted to play against Cousins in a one-on-one basketball match which did not really happen at all.

Here is the video of the fight the guy did not show mercy he treated her as an opponent not as a lady, nevertheless its a feat but I doubt if Claressa can break a record of beating a man much more on a guy who is a former champion and with a very high knock out percentage, I'll give a benefit of a doubt if Claressa is a knockout machine but she is not, just a regular boxer with a good skill.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1153102742075509

What's so difficult to predict? It should be obvious. Intense? More like a practice or warm up session for Keith. If Thurman will fight with one hand tied behind his back then I would agree with you.

I recently came across a video of arguably the best female boxer and kickboxer of all time. Lucia Rijker was so dominant in women's professional boxing and kickboxing with most of her wins ending in KO/TKO. Her power was also said to be the same of a man. She's unbeatable that time so they thought it was a good idea to let her fight a man in an exhibition kickboxing. She was match with an amateur Muay Thai fighter and got knocked out in the second round.

Even an amateur boxer could knock out Claressa too in a no handicap match.

I disagree on this, Women’s movement has no say to this because their co-woman is the one ask for this match while she is a champion on his own division. I think think the should be view without any gender involved since Shields is a fighter too and not a regular house wive that doesn’t have fighting skills.

Likeyly, This match will end TKO or KO on whoever will win. This will be very shameful for Thurman if he lose on this fight.

It is official that Claressa Shields indeed called out Keith Thurman to a boxing fight but considering the gender involved, it wouldn't be a good sight to see a fight between a male boxer and a female boxer even if both of them are known to the sport and have already carved their name to it.

Personally, I don't want this to happen and I highly doubt that a hype will be built around it. Moreover, I know Thurman will just neglect this without making a statement because either way, it will be his loss even if the fight is so winnable by him. It's just funny because Shields had the courage to call out a male boxer which is also a former champion.

Claressa does not have knockout power and Thurman has proven that he has a good chin he has never been knocked out before he experienced a flash knockdown against Pacquiao but he is still a tough fighter to deal if I'm not mistaken this will be the first exhibition match that involves two champions that belongs to a different gender.
Thurman can easily knock out Claressa but that will not look good in the eyes of the women's movement and in the eyes of boxing fans it will look controversial.

the thing is, he already responded that he is up for it as long as it is for a charity event(but it doesn't mean that the fight will happen just because he accepts the offer). he knows that men hit harder than women that is why he offered to only use jabs, use bigger gloves, let her use head gear, ect... to make the match safer. also, it is not an "uncertain news" because he responded on Claressa's offer on one of his interview(there is a video of it).

yep, I completely agree with this, she could get a lucky punch and men should not compete with women and vice versa especially in contact sports but I am really curious how she'll perform when matched with a boxer like Kieth Thurman.

I must admit that I also thought that fight promoters would not accept promoting such an event even if it was for charity, but today I see Claressa's instagram that the fight will happen, although I don't see the date, as the photo does not show the date and place , but apparently from this photo:



source: https://www.instagram.com/p/CviDC1IAUN5/

so that means that the fight is really going to happen, it's not just her intention of wanting to fight Thurman, now what I find very funny about it is that in the instagram comments of this photo, people are asking him to give up this fight because even being a fight in which Thurman could take it easy on her, she still wouldn't have a chance to stay fighting for many rounds, people fear that he would be knocked out too soon and it would be much more humiliating because Thurman would be taking it too easy for her being a woman , this would not only affect her psychologically for suffering a defeat at a charity event and with the opponent taking it easy on her for being a woman

as it would also affect her reputation in the world of female fighters, that's because in a fight, even if it's an exhibition fight, nobody likes to lose, especially when all the news channels and the fans are following the fight, an athlete always fights to win, but when he is facing a very weak opponent who is not even worth the effort, he fights to win in a way without hurting the opponent, the real problem is in the weak opponent who will make an effort to win the fight to show people that he made the guy strong to try hard and managed to win anyway

I just posted that no one will take this seriously but Thurman has accepted the offer for charity but with conditions at least Thurman is still a gentleman lets see on the next step if Claressa will push this fight and will it be a charity fight, Of course, Thurman doesn't want to look bad in the eyes of the boxing community that is why he said he will just use his jab.

 

https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1686760057709432834

Is this a charity fight?  I believe Claressa Shields is the first one to call out for Keith Thurman and Thurman answered saying for an act of charity he will deal with the provocation of Shields.  It is funny to read the exchanges of message of these boxers.  Thurman stated that he will fight Shields using only one hand while Shields stated that he Thurman isn't skilled enough to do that act. lol.

I believe this is not the first time a mix gender boxing happens.  This article: https://fightnews.com/boxing-history-man-vs-woman-in-the-ring/65101, while stating an information about a mix-gender fight between Shields and Thurman also stated another history of a mix-gender fight in a boxing that happens on October 1999 between female boxer Margaret MacGregor and male boxer Loi Chow in Seattle’s Mercer Arena and on October 2003 in Curacao between Ana Pascal and Jose Espanol which said to be an impromptu fight since the opponent of Ana Pascal failed to show herself while Jose Espanol is in the audience.

If it is for a charity, for sure the score will be a draw in the end, and they will just play and toy around inside the ring and not hurting each other. But if this is going to be a real fight, full 12 rounds, with judges and referee, I don't think that Shields will have a change against the likes of Thurman, so this is a bad idea. I think Thurman will love to fight if this is for a cause and charity though and that's why he stated that he is willing to accept with some protection for Shields as he might not control himself in the end. So just imagine if Thurman can hit Claressa in the body first, for sure it's going to hurt and later Shields might have regret about this idea of fighting Keith, IMHO.

the difference between women and men is very big when it comes to physique, but when certain women start to practice sports, they start to think that there is no big difference between men and women, this has happened in fighting sports and soccer, that's enough we see that on some occasions when the players score a goal some of them take off their shirts to celebrate, but they forget that they are women and they shouldn't do that, in the case of boxing and mma also certain women start to want to compete with men, when in public places the men do something that is not right, some female fighters

they immediately attack the man, two days ago I saw on TV two female fighters whose names I don't remember, they attacked a man because according to them, the man was accessing them, see that the police were not against this aggression, no criticized and not even society did not criticize this type of absurdity, but now this fighter is asking for a fight following the rules, she has no idea that she has no chance of winning but even so she wants to show that she is much stronger, in my opinion although event organizers know she wouldn't stand a chance, they should organize this event

this would make her lose quickly and would make other fighters who had the same thought be discouraged from proposing fights against men, I would bet on Keith Thurman

Yes, but for those who are fighting for women's equality, having a handicap is not going to be fair right? And I also doubt that Thurman is going to sign the contract, he used to be one of the best welterweight prior to his injuries, but even that, he can still knockout someone with just one punch at the current batch of best 147 or even 154 lbs division fighters.

I know that Shields doesn't have competition and has wipe out his entire division and even a unified champion if I'm not mistaken. But she is asking too much here. It's better for her to just stay in the lane. Just give Savannah Marshall a rematch and I think it will still sell.

Exactly, this is contact sports, respect to women who calls out men or even fight them in streets or something. But this is a very dangerous league for Shields to cross over, eventhough Keith for me is about to be on the sunset of his career, but he can easily fuck up Claressa if we wanted to and there's no way that a women trained can win against a men trained boxer, simply as that. Again, this is not going to be a fair fight, unless Keith shows up and wanted to lose the fight just for the sake of getting a lot of money in the process. But everything sets aside, it's going to be the men going to win here.

Honestly, there's no way for a man to gain anything on that match.
If he goes easy on her and loses - she will brag that she won against a man and encourage other women to take on men.
If he goes hard and bashes her face, they'll accuse him of brutality, call him a try hard.
If he refuses, I bet there will be people out there calling him a coward. It's just a shitty situation.

Someone from the organization should step in and say that it's against the rules and not going to happen.

We've already seen this happen, this is going to be another Fallon Fox Incident lol, but in this case it's going to be boxing. Nevermind that the gender disparity even just the fact that Thurman was virtually undefeated until Pacquiao and its was through a split decision too. So for Claressa to think that she's going to beat a literal war machine is a little delusional to me. But whatever, let people play stupid games so they can win stupid prizes. She may have the disadvantage in the ring but after this fight Social Justice Warriors and PC motherfucks will flock upon the after fight calling Thurman a war criminal or something after he brutalizes Shields. Either way I'm going to watch this fight for the lols and to prove a point that Women cannot compete in male-only fights so they can stop smearing their protests for "gender equality" when all they really want is to get more rights than men.

She could always get lucky. In all sports like boxing or MMA, it only takes 1 punch and bad shit can happen. Keith may also try to take it easy on her and get himself knocked out. I personally do not think that men should compete with women in the same sport and vice versa, but the world is changing and who knows what we will see next.

We don't know what Claressa is thinking but her only 2 knocks out in all her fights is not a good indicator that she can beat Thurman who has 22 knocks out in his 30 fights if she wants to test herself and see if she can beat a man take an amateur guy to see her chances I also doubt if she can beat even if its an amateur, of course, Thurman will not take this seriously its ungentlemanly for him to take Claressa seriously.
I think no one is going to take this seriously.

Exactly, She is just trying to accomplish something unusual for woman fighter. This match is just an exhibition that gives her a lot of advantages. She might have a chance to outbox Thurman but I doubt Thurman will really guve a 100% of his strength by defeating a woman. Men and Woman genes has a lot of differences in regards of strengths.

I read this news yesterday and I thought this fight is impossible to happened because Thurman already show lack of interest.

This is not going to happen I know Claressa is a good boxer but she doesn't know her boundaries there are no videos of her sparring with men so she doesn't know how hard men hit more than women

She only had 2 knocks out to her credit or 14.29%. while Thurman has 68.75% or 22 knocks out in his 30 wins shows she is going to beat Thurman, why not get a transgender first, this is not going to happen its unlikely, Claressa is making a big joke if he thinks he can beat Thurman.

She wants to be treated like a man, so let him go all out on her. It's not like there should be any exceptions and special treatment. I bet she's going out there to give all she's got, why should it be any different from his side?

Girls these days have too much equality bullshit in their heads and think they can win against men. Weight and sex divisions were made for a reason. If you think they don't matter, you're in for a hard lesson.
Also, she's not a child that you can go easy on and give a spanking to. She's an adult fighter who must have sparred with men before challenging Thurman. If she gets knocked out hard, it will be a great lesson for her.

This will never an official match. There’s nothing to gain for Thurman here in case he won while he can get criticism in case he manage to beat badly Shields on this match because no matter what gender equality woman spouting, they will always be a woman in terms of physical confrontations.

It will be the most absurd decision Thurman made if he will accept this match since only Shields will benefit on this fight no matter what is the result.

I've seen the news that Claressa Shields challenged Keith Thurman to a bet, as I've seen it, but nothing came of it yet.

I don't know what Claressa Shields was thinking, to challenge Keith Thurman to box, does this have anything to do with revenge after Keith Thurman challenged Crawford, If this challenge between Keith Thurman and Claressa Shields does materialize, we wish boxing fans all the best and professionalism, because this is the opposite sex, weird but impressive to watch.

Will the boxing organizations allow this both boxers are licensed professional boxers, and Shields's confidence goes to her head she thought that she can beat Thurman who just come from beating Barrios, Shields does not have the knockout power that is equal to men, she had a hard time beating Marshalls.

I remember Ronda Rousey daring Mayweather to fight her until she suffers the worse beating of her career, against Holm and Amanda Nunez, Claressa should just concentrate on her rematch against Marshall.

She thinks that Thurman is an inferior fighter but Thurman can knock him out with one punch, I don't think this fight will materialize, boxing organizations will not sanction this fight, it's a bad precedence.

This image might be not appropriate, but I just want to pointed out if men's biological is completely different with women's biological and it's not fair.



Keith Thurman isn't a weak boxer too, he's an above average boxer so he should be win against Claressa Shields despite she has a lot achievement and trophy in boxing career. But if it's just an exhibition fight, Thurman might be not really serious with the fight.

She seems good alright but I really doubt she truly believes she could win the fight with no handicap. It makes me think that she's doing all these noise for clout or a better pay day. She's got nothing to lose here if Thurman signs the contract. If she loses then she can have all the gender excuse.

Maybe she should fight a transgender boxer first before challenging the men's top ranks.

Is it already official? If it is, then I think it's just an exhibition fight, right?

I saw the highlights of the female boxer, and she is quite good, but it seems she forgot that the one she challenged was a former boxing champion who only suffered a defeat against Manny Pacquiao, a legend. If this fight is going to happen, I hope Thurman will slow down a bit, as I don't want to see a female boxer badly hurt because of a wrong decision in life.

as per her record, https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/777865..... She is currently undefeated, but I'm sure after the fight, she will experience her first loss, although unofficial.

if you read the title, yep, you got that right, a female boxer called out Kieth Thurman for a fight.

several days ago I saw articles going around talking about Claressa Shields calling out Keith Thurman and saying that she'll fight him and thinks that she can outbox him. I thought this would just die down because Kieth Thurman wouldn't respond to it but then earlier I saw an article where Keith Thurman basically accepts her offer to fight for a charity event and also would give her several advantages more protective gear just to make it safer.

anyway, I've seen some highlights of Claressa Shields's fight and I think she is a good boxer(her belts shoes that) but I don't think she can handle Men's Boxing, especially with someone like Kieth Thurman. not sure if this fight will ever go through but I am extremely curious to see how she'll show off her skills if she ever actually fights Kieth Thurman for a charity event.

if you are curious, after Kieth Thurman accepted her offer, she responded by showing a video of her sparring with men, and I gotta say, it wasn't good.