Gamblers who used to bet on dice with low chance/big multi usually rare to change the seed, same as plinko player when aim the multiplier on the edge.
They did that because they aim a big multi and they are aware it might need a few thousand rounds or more to hit it.
However it will always coming back to your luck, I mean your previous seed might give the jackpot very very soon but you failed to get it because you already change it to a new one and visa versa.
So, changing the seed very often is not a real strategy but its a myth.
People can do anything with their seed, there is nothing wrong with it - we only need the lady luck guide us to the victory.
Topic: Client Seed (Read 149 times)
Client seed
CHANGING IT as frequently as possible, does this in any way increase a gambler's chances of winning?
I will say NO. Changing the client see should only act as a reassurance that the games are totally random and provably fair, but should not effect the outcomes of the games played. If it does affect the outcome that game that casino should be avoided.CHANGING IT as frequently as possible, does this in any way increase a gambler's chances of winning?
Is this to say that, changing client seed as often as possible, (most especially when a gambler keeps losing for too long) has the potential of turning what seemed to be a long losing streak, into winning? Or is it all still based on the gambler's luck..?
I think it is all down to the gambler's perception; they expect an act to work in their favor and amplify the times that it does work that way, ignoring the time it does not, to justify their perception.- Jay -
There are no things that could justify that these things are really indeed possible or do really happens. Just like been saying that it would really be just that depending on someones perception and views and emotions at the same time on why people do really end up these kind of assumptions that it is really that something relevant if you do try to change up those seeds.
There were no proofs or solid evidences that seeds do really determine or one of the factors that making someone to be lucky. I would rather believe that these things does
rather ensure that every roll is fair and not something rigged.
A gambler could keep checking every time to confirm the fairness of the result, but I don't think it's necessary anymore, especially if we're playing on a reputable gambling site in the first place. I mean, if a gambler discovers something that can't be verified, it would automatically affect the reputation of the gambling site, and they would lose their clients.
Well, that's a dangerous view mate since you know the "don't trust, verify" thing is the reason why provably fair games exist. And thus, if no one bothers to verify the game, it becomes no different than 3rd party games.I might verify though but only if i have a significant bet on a certain roll, what if I am a gambler that have hundreds or thousands of bets per gambling session? I think it would be time consuming to verify every time. But I understand, it's there for a reason, so it only matters on the discretion of a gambler, but at least the gambling site are ensuring that games provably fair as the outcome can be verified.
Client seed is nothing more than a string of numbers and alphabets and it is used only to add security and transparency in the randomness of the cryptographic results generated. So, no matter how many times a person changes or modifies their client seed, it wouldn't have any effect on the results because the results are not generated based on your client seed but the seed is just used to generate the resulting seed that you can use to verify the bet.
People change their client seed frequently only to make it more clear if the casino is transparent and isn't manipulating the bets, there is no other effect that a person will see after changing their client seed as far as I know. If there is something that I don't know, someone should correct me about it.
People change their client seed frequently only to make it more clear if the casino is transparent and isn't manipulating the bets, there is no other effect that a person will see after changing their client seed as far as I know. If there is something that I don't know, someone should correct me about it.
I dont think changing the client seed in online gambling typically impact the odds of winning. It might jusy provide a psychological effect, making players feel as though they're altering their luck but in reality, it doesn't affect the inherent randomness of the games. Each outcome remains independent and past results do not influence future ones. Gambling outcomes are designed to be random and unpredictable right
Client seed is confusing at times, some said it does not affect the game results and it doesn't make them win more and some said it gets better changing the client seed, I have not tried this myself but I do believe that every gamblers should focus on the games, this is better than changing seed, I don't mind playing with old seed and I have gotten some good results.
Actually changing seed can make a difference because it changes the outcome of a bet but don't expect to start winning like crazy, if your luck is far away from you losses will come knocking, the problem lies in knowing the best seed that you could use, lots of headache if you ask me, someone claimed that a seed is the best and still lost 100k.
It's best to stick to your plan of bankroll management, if you want to try any gambling strategy always make sure use only what you can afford to lose, a sport gambler wouldn't need to worry himself of client seed, choose the games that you are good at and risk only what you can afford to lose.
Actually changing seed can make a difference because it changes the outcome of a bet but don't expect to start winning like crazy, if your luck is far away from you losses will come knocking, the problem lies in knowing the best seed that you could use, lots of headache if you ask me, someone claimed that a seed is the best and still lost 100k.
It's best to stick to your plan of bankroll management, if you want to try any gambling strategy always make sure use only what you can afford to lose, a sport gambler wouldn't need to worry himself of client seed, choose the games that you are good at and risk only what you can afford to lose.
even if you change your seed you don't actually influence the results statistics or any outcome!
you can always go and catch a case contrary to what you are betting on... it seems it can help in a long streak of loss but it doesn't change anything....
you can always go and catch a case contrary to what you are betting on... it seems it can help in a long streak of loss but it doesn't change anything....
I created a thread that somehow discussed seeds just recently.
One seed, One casino game. Superstitious or Not?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62959020
I don't usually change my seed. I don't think it has something to do with our luck. There will always be that winning point but sometimes it will not be enough to cover the losses. This is where I will try to think about switching to a new seed but it will take like 20k to 50k bets before I change to a new one. In my mind, I think it will not give more than that and so I must find a new seed that hits the RTP as soon as possible so that I won't be rekt in my early session.
Another way that I do this is by just refreshing the page or closing the browser and opening it again.
But these are all just superstitious beliefs, in my opinion. There will always be a part of that seed that will give back but most of the time it takes longer than what we are expecting.
I've seen it before where I am losing in the range of 300x - 500x before it surprises me to give x200 - x300 once or sometimes twice.
The other reason why I don't switch seeds often is because I think by doing that we are refreshing the chances of receiving the jackpot which means we have to grind from the start again.
One seed, One casino game. Superstitious or Not?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62959020
I don't usually change my seed. I don't think it has something to do with our luck. There will always be that winning point but sometimes it will not be enough to cover the losses. This is where I will try to think about switching to a new seed but it will take like 20k to 50k bets before I change to a new one. In my mind, I think it will not give more than that and so I must find a new seed that hits the RTP as soon as possible so that I won't be rekt in my early session.
Another way that I do this is by just refreshing the page or closing the browser and opening it again.
But these are all just superstitious beliefs, in my opinion. There will always be a part of that seed that will give back but most of the time it takes longer than what we are expecting.
I've seen it before where I am losing in the range of 300x - 500x before it surprises me to give x200 - x300 once or sometimes twice.
The other reason why I don't switch seeds often is because I think by doing that we are refreshing the chances of receiving the jackpot which means we have to grind from the start again.
So, it's a false assumption that it could impact the luck factor in the game.
Yes, it's a "gambler fallacy."A gambler could keep checking every time to confirm the fairness of the result, but I don't think it's necessary anymore, especially if we're playing on a reputable gambling site in the first place. I mean, if a gambler discovers something that can't be verified, it would automatically affect the reputation of the gambling site, and they would lose their clients.
Well, that's a dangerous view mate since you know the "don't trust, verify" thing is the reason why provably fair games exist. And thus, if no one bothers to verify the game, it becomes no different than 3rd party games. The results are still random whether or not you continuously change your client seed. The purpose of this (changing client seed) is for verification.
If you keep doing the same seed for, let's say, 1,000 spins, it signals that you didn't actually verify your results... meaning provably fair isn't working as intended. The game might be tampered and you wouldn't know it.
If you keep doing the same seed for, let's say, 1,000 spins, it signals that you didn't actually verify your results... meaning provably fair isn't working as intended. The game might be tampered and you wouldn't know it.
So, it's a false assumption that it could impact the luck factor in the game. A gambler could keep checking every time to confirm the fairness of the result, but I don't think it's necessary anymore, especially if we're playing on a reputable gambling site in the first place. I mean, if a gambler discovers something that can't be verified, it would automatically affect the reputation of the gambling site, and they would lose their clients. So, the purpose wasn't really seen that way. Instead, some gamblers thought it could turn their bad luck into good luck.
The results are still random whether or not you continuously change your client seed. The purpose of this (changing client seed) is for verification.
If you keep doing the same seed for, let's say, 1,000 spins, it signals that you didn't actually verify your results... meaning provably fair isn't working as intended. The game might be tampered and you wouldn't know it.
If you keep doing the same seed for, let's say, 1,000 spins, it signals that you didn't actually verify your results... meaning provably fair isn't working as intended. The game might be tampered and you wouldn't know it.
If you're playing a luck-based gambling game, the answer is pretty straightforward: altering the seed doesn't impact your odds of winning or improve your chances. Those who tweak it are usually guided by superstitious beliefs, but there's no solid evidence that it actually enhances the likelihood of winning.
Nevertheless, some gamblers consider the seed to be a significant factor influencing their results. But, let's cut them some slack, it's their personal belief. In truth, when you consider reliable factors, it doesn't really change anything since the house edge persists, ultimately favoring the gambling site.
Nevertheless, some gamblers consider the seed to be a significant factor influencing their results. But, let's cut them some slack, it's their personal belief. In truth, when you consider reliable factors, it doesn't really change anything since the house edge persists, ultimately favoring the gambling site.
Are you indirectly referring to Martingale principle?
Where the bettor keeps increasing (Doubling) their betting amount to stand a chance to break out a single winning even though they seems to be losing continually. Well I will say it doesn't operates that way I think it's a personal belief that if think you and have it in mind to work that way then it will surely, but at this point I won't directly point that increasing your seed guaranteed your winnings as we know gambling is always luck based game so what you need is "Technicality + Luck" then equals to winning which is still under probabilities. So your answer is No
Where the bettor keeps increasing (Doubling) their betting amount to stand a chance to break out a single winning even though they seems to be losing continually. Well I will say it doesn't operates that way I think it's a personal belief that if think you and have it in mind to work that way then it will surely, but at this point I won't directly point that increasing your seed guaranteed your winnings as we know gambling is always luck based game so what you need is "Technicality + Luck" then equals to winning which is still under probabilities. So your answer is No
Client seed
CHANGING IT as frequently as possible, does this in any way increase a gambler's chances of winning?
YES/NOCHANGING IT as frequently as possible, does this in any way increase a gambler's chances of winning?
Regular change of client seed can affect the outcome of the results of your game but it doesn't for certain ensure you will have a winning chance however with the random changing of the seed you just might be lucky to stumble on a win. But it's ain't a guarantee that by changing you will have an increased winning chance.
The notion behind the client seed is for transparency for both the gambler and the house against rigging, and if the changing of client seed roll out to increase winning chances then there's a problem somewhere (the casino) which makes some of the seed's questionable.
Client seed
CHANGING IT as frequently as possible, does this in any way increase a gambler's chances of winning?
I will say NO. Changing the client see should only act as a reassurance that the games are totally random and provably fair, but should not effect the outcomes of the games played. If it does affect the outcome that game that casino should be avoided.CHANGING IT as frequently as possible, does this in any way increase a gambler's chances of winning?
Is this to say that, changing client seed as often as possible, (most especially when a gambler keeps losing for too long) has the potential of turning what seemed to be a long losing streak, into winning? Or is it all still based on the gambler's luck..?
I think it is all down to the gambler's perception; they expect an act to work in their favor and amplify the times that it does work that way, ignoring the time it does not, to justify their perception.- Jay -
I believe each client seed brings different luck, with some seeds you will be able to get a x1000 in the first 100 bets, and that's what i call good luck. And that outcome was the result of your seed.
Personally, I like to use a new seed each run, and i make close to 1500 bets with each seed. But is just the way i like to gamble, i don't think this will make me win or lose more, since the client seed doesn't affect the house edge the result should be the same in the long run.
Personally, I like to use a new seed each run, and i make close to 1500 bets with each seed. But is just the way i like to gamble, i don't think this will make me win or lose more, since the client seed doesn't affect the house edge the result should be the same in the long run.
All the client seed does is prove that results are pre-determined.
Being able to verify outcomes shows that the casino isn't just changing your results (for example, dice rolls) based on the amount you bet.
Honestly, there's no reason to believe that changing the seed gives higher chances of winning. It'll only give you another chain of pre-determined events.
If you're playing dice, you can change the win-chance and also your bet amount and hi/low pick before each bet. Dice is the most versatile game in terms of betting possibilities. But the house edge is always there.
So in the long run, the odds are always stacked against the player. Otherwise the games wouldn't be sustainable to host for casinos.
Being able to verify outcomes shows that the casino isn't just changing your results (for example, dice rolls) based on the amount you bet.
Honestly, there's no reason to believe that changing the seed gives higher chances of winning. It'll only give you another chain of pre-determined events.
If you're playing dice, you can change the win-chance and also your bet amount and hi/low pick before each bet. Dice is the most versatile game in terms of betting possibilities. But the house edge is always there.
So in the long run, the odds are always stacked against the player. Otherwise the games wouldn't be sustainable to host for casinos.
legendary
Activity: 2422
Merit: 1083
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Before I go on with my question, let me make it clear that ive search the forum, and this same topic have actually been discussed here before, but that was a very long time ago, I think around 2020/2021, and being eager to read what you guys think. Or believe concerning this, I decided to bring up the top again.
Client seed
CHANGING IT as frequently as possible, does this in any way increase a gambler's chances of winning?
Some gambler's change their client seed after experiencing too many loses on a streak, and they believe doing this has the potential of turning their ill luck around.
For some gamblers, doing this actually does work, while for some others, it simply doesn't change anything.
Is this to say that, changing client seed as often as possible, (most especially when a gambler keeps losing for too long) has the potential of turning what seemed to be a long losing streak, into winning? Or is it all still based on the gambler's luck..?
Lets discuss this once again.
Client seed
CHANGING IT as frequently as possible, does this in any way increase a gambler's chances of winning?
Some gambler's change their client seed after experiencing too many loses on a streak, and they believe doing this has the potential of turning their ill luck around.
For some gamblers, doing this actually does work, while for some others, it simply doesn't change anything.
Is this to say that, changing client seed as often as possible, (most especially when a gambler keeps losing for too long) has the potential of turning what seemed to be a long losing streak, into winning? Or is it all still based on the gambler's luck..?
Lets discuss this once again.
Jump to: