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copper member
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March 30, 2016, 03:30:20 PM
#20
Hi to my surprise i only see my tx on blockchain.info.
Others don't just find my tx Sad and when i look by my address i see my original address with full bitcoins.
If i resend this transaction with high fees then it will be confirmed,right? and can i send it to the same address that i sent earlier to?
and what is the worst that can happen,can i even lose my bitcoins by doing all this Huh

yes if you resend a transaction with same inputs with higher fees it will be confirmed

!!! only !!! if a large portion of the network has forgotten about the previous transaction. Wait at the very least 24 hours after you issued the first TX. If a large part of the network still remembers your 1st TX, the nodes will refuse to relay the 2nd TX.

and the old transaction will disappear from all nodes eventually. you can send it to the same address.
as I've said before the worst that can happen when you're trying to double spend is that nothing will happen because the transaction gets rejected. you can try again in that case. you won't lose your coins.

Correct, you can never lose your coins. Worst case is that you cant use them for some time.
I tried broadcasting a new tx that i signed but unfortunately it did not go through any of the online service i tried.I always get error.What does it mean?
Anyways,I have pm'd you the tx please check and reply me through pm

I replied, was it a double spend attempt? I think its a bit early for that.
hero member
Activity: 658
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March 30, 2016, 03:20:07 PM
#19
Give it some time it will get sorted out on its own
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March 30, 2016, 03:18:18 PM
#18
Hi to my surprise i only see my tx on blockchain.info.
Others don't just find my tx Sad and when i look by my address i see my original address with full bitcoins.
If i resend this transaction with high fees then it will be confirmed,right? and can i send it to the same address that i sent earlier to?
and what is the worst that can happen,can i even lose my bitcoins by doing all this Huh

yes if you resend a transaction with same inputs with higher fees it will be confirmed

!!! only !!! if a large portion of the network has forgotten about the previous transaction. Wait at the very least 24 hours after you issued the first TX. If a large part of the network still remembers your 1st TX, the nodes will refuse to relay the 2nd TX.

and the old transaction will disappear from all nodes eventually. you can send it to the same address.
as I've said before the worst that can happen when you're trying to double spend is that nothing will happen because the transaction gets rejected. you can try again in that case. you won't lose your coins.

Correct, you can never lose your coins. Worst case is that you cant use them for some time.
I tried broadcasting a new tx that i signed but unfortunately it did not go through any of the online service i tried.I always get error.What does it mean?
Anyways,I have pm'd you the tx please check and reply me through pm
legendary
Activity: 1190
Merit: 1002
March 30, 2016, 02:37:47 PM
#17
Last some days back i also faced same problem with transaction fees and my transaction was also got hanged in the traffic, after some days like 2 or 3 days after it got cancelled and the coins were returned back to my account. So i think you have to wait for some days whether it will get confirmed or it will get cancelled and you will get back your bitcoins. Then after you can resend it back with proper transaction fees.
copper member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1528
No I dont escrow anymore.
March 30, 2016, 02:33:12 PM
#16
Hi to my surprise i only see my tx on blockchain.info.
Others don't just find my tx Sad and when i look by my address i see my original address with full bitcoins.
If i resend this transaction with high fees then it will be confirmed,right? and can i send it to the same address that i sent earlier to?
and what is the worst that can happen,can i even lose my bitcoins by doing all this Huh

yes if you resend a transaction with same inputs with higher fees it will be confirmed

!!! only !!! if a large portion of the network has forgotten about the previous transaction. Wait at the very least 24 hours after you issued the first TX. If a large part of the network still remembers your 1st TX, the nodes will refuse to relay the 2nd TX.

and the old transaction will disappear from all nodes eventually. you can send it to the same address.
as I've said before the worst that can happen when you're trying to double spend is that nothing will happen because the transaction gets rejected. you can try again in that case. you won't lose your coins.

Correct, you can never lose your coins. Worst case is that you cant use them for some time.
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 503
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March 30, 2016, 01:44:23 PM
#15
Hi to my surprise i only see my tx on blockchain.info.
Others don't just find my tx Sad and when i look by my address i see my original address with full bitcoins.
If i resend this transaction with high fees then it will be confirmed,right? and can i send it to the same address that i sent earlier to?
and what is the worst that can happen,can i even lose my bitcoins by doing all this Huh

yes if you resend a transaction with same inputs with higher fees it will be confirmed and the old transaction will disappear from all nodes eventually. you can send it to the same address.
as I've said before the worst that can happen when you're trying to double spend is that nothing will happen because the transaction gets rejected. you can try again in that case. you won't lose your coins.
member
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March 30, 2016, 01:30:36 PM
#14
how long should i wait before trying to respend it.I mean how would i know most of the nodes have rejected it?

you can lookup your transaction id on block explorers like blockchain.info, blocktrail.com, and blockr.io. if one or two of them doesn't have your transaction or have dropped it you can assume that some of the nodes have dropped your transaction. then you can try sending another transaction with at least one same input.
if it fails and get rejected you can simply try again. you won't lose anything.
Hi to my surprise i only see my tx on blockchain.info.
Others don't just find my tx Sad and when i look by my address i see my original address with full bitcoins.
If i resend this transaction with high fees then it will be confirmed,right? and can i send it to the same address that i sent earlier to?
and what is the worst that can happen,can i even lose my bitcoins by doing all this Huh
hero member
Activity: 574
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March 30, 2016, 01:11:06 PM
#13
how long should i wait before trying to respend it.I mean how would i know most of the nodes have rejected it?

you can lookup your transaction id on block explorers like blockchain.info, blocktrail.com, and blockr.io. if one or two of them doesn't have your transaction or have dropped it you can assume that some of the nodes have dropped your transaction. then you can try sending another transaction with at least one same input.
if it fails and get rejected you can simply try again. you won't lose anything.
member
Activity: 108
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March 30, 2016, 12:55:50 PM
#12
Is there any way i can respent or double spend this unconfirmed tx
Say i first export the private key of this address and import it in some other wallet and then from there i resend the bitcoins with much higher fees.In result this new tx gets confirmed and older tx gets ignored.Is that possible?

that is possible. but like shorena said it will only works if most nodes have rejected/dropped your transaction. if they still have the old transaction it'll be rejected as double spend.

I just saw it's like more then 100 inputs consumed and only 1 output for this tx.SHOULD I WORRY?

don't worry. the worst thing that can happen is that your bitcoins will be returned to your wallet.
how long should i wait before trying to respend it.I mean how would i know most of the nodes have rejected it?
hero member
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March 30, 2016, 12:34:15 PM
#11
Is there any way i can respent or double spend this unconfirmed tx
Say i first export the private key of this address and import it in some other wallet and then from there i resend the bitcoins with much higher fees.In result this new tx gets confirmed and older tx gets ignored.Is that possible?

that is possible. but like shorena said it will only works if most nodes have rejected/dropped your transaction. if they still have the old transaction it'll be rejected as double spend.

I just saw it's like more then 100 inputs consumed and only 1 output for this tx.SHOULD I WORRY?

don't worry. the worst thing that can happen is that your bitcoins will be returned to your wallet.
member
Activity: 108
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March 30, 2016, 12:30:09 PM
#10
Is there any way i can respent or double spend this unconfirmed tx
Say i first export the private key of this address and import it in some other wallet and then from there i resend the bitcoins with much higher fees.In result this new tx gets confirmed and older tx gets ignored.Is that possible?
member
Activity: 108
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March 30, 2016, 12:14:53 PM
#9
I sent a big amount in bitcoins 7+ bitcoins
I don't know what i did wrong Sad The transaction size is big i mean really big 16000+ bytes and the fees i paid was only 0.0001 btc

You should always pay a fee per (k)byte and not a fixed amount.

I am scared if even it will get confirm or not.I wonder if it's possible to rebroadcast or resent the transaction with higher fees?

Depends, which wallet / service do you use?

Believe me if i knew the transaction size can be that big i would have paid 0.01 btc fees Sad now what do i do frenss?

"frenss"?

P.S I control both the address the one i sent it from and the one i sent it to.Is there any way i can resent the transaction with high fee or just cancel this one or anu other way?I think I am screwed Sad

Can you post the TX ID? That way we can see why the TX is that big, how high its priority is (not that bogus "high"/"medium"/"low" you see on blockchain.info) and will (together with knowing your wallet) help make good suggestions.
Wallet is blockchain.info wallet
and can't post the tx for privacy reasons.

Well, with bc.i you most can only wait.

But i can tell all the inputs were confirmed?

I need the size of each input and the number of blocks its confirmed. If you provide that information I can easily search for the TX ID.

If you do not want to disclose this information you have to calculate the priority yourself -> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees#Priority_transactions

there was no unconfirmed inputs still the tx i just sent got that big in size.
and how do i know before sending what will be the size of the transaction so that i can set the fee accordingly as you are saying to pay according to per kB?

With blockchain.info? I dont know. I mainly use bitcoin core, it tells me how large the TX will be. A rough estimate is 180b*inputs + 32b*outputs for uncompressed keys and 134b*inputs+32b*outputs for compressed keys. IIRC it varies by about 10 byte (+/-) per input.

Please help how to fix this or will it be ever confirmed?
I read on other site we can respent using double spend to fix the tx fee issue is that possible?

You have two options, neither is quick.

#1 wait. blockchain.info will "return" the coins to your wallet after a few days.

#2 try a double spend. This will however not work with blockchain.info. You would need to export the private keys and import them into a different wallet. This will also need time as a double spend only works if a large number of nodes has already forgotten about the TX.

#3 Well there is a 3rd. Get in touch with a miner or mining pool and ask them nicely to include your TX with priority even though your fee is low for its size.
Well 3rd option sounds good.
Please tell me how to proceed to contact which miner and how i contact them? I can even pay them extra fees in some other tx if they want?

I dont know any mining pool operators.

Also is there slightest  possibility that such large tx can get confirmed with such low fees (0.0001 btc) and if yes how long can it take?

Depends on the priority.

Also how long can i take that my coins get returned in blockchain.info wallet?

I think they return it after 3 days, but I dont know for sure. Maybe their support can answer that.
I just saw it's like more then 100 inputs consumed and only 1 output for this tx.SHOULD I WORRY?
Actually i only used 1 address for all the bitcoins i recieved that's why i think when i sent from the 1 address it actually consumes such amount of inputs
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March 30, 2016, 12:13:17 PM
#8
and how do i know before sending what will be the size of the transaction so that i can set the fee accordingly as you are saying to pay according to per kB?

in blockchain.info you can preview your payment before sending it by choosing custom send. it won't tell you the exact size but it'll show all inputs and outputs of that transaction. each inputs usually will add 120+- bytes to a transaction and outputs will add 30+-.
copper member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1528
No I dont escrow anymore.
March 30, 2016, 11:48:02 AM
#7
I sent a big amount in bitcoins 7+ bitcoins
I don't know what i did wrong Sad The transaction size is big i mean really big 16000+ bytes and the fees i paid was only 0.0001 btc

You should always pay a fee per (k)byte and not a fixed amount.

I am scared if even it will get confirm or not.I wonder if it's possible to rebroadcast or resent the transaction with higher fees?

Depends, which wallet / service do you use?

Believe me if i knew the transaction size can be that big i would have paid 0.01 btc fees Sad now what do i do frenss?

"frenss"?

P.S I control both the address the one i sent it from and the one i sent it to.Is there any way i can resent the transaction with high fee or just cancel this one or anu other way?I think I am screwed Sad

Can you post the TX ID? That way we can see why the TX is that big, how high its priority is (not that bogus "high"/"medium"/"low" you see on blockchain.info) and will (together with knowing your wallet) help make good suggestions.
Wallet is blockchain.info wallet
and can't post the tx for privacy reasons.

Well, with bc.i you most can only wait.

But i can tell all the inputs were confirmed?

I need the size of each input and the number of blocks its confirmed. If you provide that information I can easily search for the TX ID.

If you do not want to disclose this information you have to calculate the priority yourself -> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees#Priority_transactions

there was no unconfirmed inputs still the tx i just sent got that big in size.
and how do i know before sending what will be the size of the transaction so that i can set the fee accordingly as you are saying to pay according to per kB?

With blockchain.info? I dont know. I mainly use bitcoin core, it tells me how large the TX will be. A rough estimate is 180b*inputs + 32b*outputs for uncompressed keys and 134b*inputs+32b*outputs for compressed keys. IIRC it varies by about 10 byte (+/-) per input.

Please help how to fix this or will it be ever confirmed?
I read on other site we can respent using double spend to fix the tx fee issue is that possible?

You have two options, neither is quick.

#1 wait. blockchain.info will "return" the coins to your wallet after a few days.

#2 try a double spend. This will however not work with blockchain.info. You would need to export the private keys and import them into a different wallet. This will also need time as a double spend only works if a large number of nodes has already forgotten about the TX.

#3 Well there is a 3rd. Get in touch with a miner or mining pool and ask them nicely to include your TX with priority even though your fee is low for its size.
Well 3rd option sounds good.
Please tell me how to proceed to contact which miner and how i contact them? I can even pay them extra fees in some other tx if they want?

I dont know any mining pool operators.

Also is there slightest  possibility that such large tx can get confirmed with such low fees (0.0001 btc) and if yes how long can it take?

Depends on the priority.

Also how long can i take that my coins get returned in blockchain.info wallet?

I think they return it after 3 days, but I dont know for sure. Maybe their support can answer that.
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March 30, 2016, 11:46:43 AM
#6
I sent a big amount in bitcoins 7+ bitcoins
I don't know what i did wrong Sad The transaction size is big i mean really big 16000+ bytes and the fees i paid was only 0.0001 btc

You should always pay a fee per (k)byte and not a fixed amount.

I am scared if even it will get confirm or not.I wonder if it's possible to rebroadcast or resent the transaction with higher fees?

Depends, which wallet / service do you use?

Believe me if i knew the transaction size can be that big i would have paid 0.01 btc fees Sad now what do i do frenss?

"frenss"?

P.S I control both the address the one i sent it from and the one i sent it to.Is there any way i can resent the transaction with high fee or just cancel this one or anu other way?I think I am screwed Sad

Can you post the TX ID? That way we can see why the TX is that big, how high its priority is (not that bogus "high"/"medium"/"low" you see on blockchain.info) and will (together with knowing your wallet) help make good suggestions.
Wallet is blockchain.info wallet
and can't post the tx for privacy reasons.

Well, with bc.i you most can only wait.

But i can tell all the inputs were confirmed?

I need the size of each input and the number of blocks its confirmed. If you provide that information I can easily search for the TX ID.

If you do not want to disclose this information you have to calculate the priority yourself -> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees#Priority_transactions

there was no unconfirmed inputs still the tx i just sent got that big in size.
and how do i know before sending what will be the size of the transaction so that i can set the fee accordingly as you are saying to pay according to per kB?

With blockchain.info? I dont know. I mainly use bitcoin core, it tells me how large the TX will be. A rough estimate is 180b*inputs + 32b*outputs for uncompressed keys and 134b*inputs+32b*outputs for compressed keys. IIRC it varies by about 10 byte (+/-) per input.

Please help how to fix this or will it be ever confirmed?
I read on other site we can respent using double spend to fix the tx fee issue is that possible?

You have two options, neither is quick.

#1 wait. blockchain.info will "return" the coins to your wallet after a few days.

#2 try a double spend. This will however not work with blockchain.info. You would need to export the private keys and import them into a different wallet. This will also need time as a double spend only works if a large number of nodes has already forgotten about the TX.

#3 Well there is a 3rd. Get in touch with a miner or mining pool and ask them nicely to include your TX with priority even though your fee is low for its size.
Well 3rd option sounds good.
Please tell me how to proceed to contact which miner and how i contact them? I can even pay them extra fees in some other tx if they want?
Also is there slightest  possibility that such large tx can get confirmed with such low fees (0.0001 btc) and if yes how long can it take?
Also how long can i take that my coins get returned in blockchain.info wallet?
copper member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1528
No I dont escrow anymore.
March 30, 2016, 11:31:15 AM
#5
I sent a big amount in bitcoins 7+ bitcoins
I don't know what i did wrong Sad The transaction size is big i mean really big 16000+ bytes and the fees i paid was only 0.0001 btc

You should always pay a fee per (k)byte and not a fixed amount.

I am scared if even it will get confirm or not.I wonder if it's possible to rebroadcast or resent the transaction with higher fees?

Depends, which wallet / service do you use?

Believe me if i knew the transaction size can be that big i would have paid 0.01 btc fees Sad now what do i do frenss?

"frenss"?

P.S I control both the address the one i sent it from and the one i sent it to.Is there any way i can resent the transaction with high fee or just cancel this one or anu other way?I think I am screwed Sad

Can you post the TX ID? That way we can see why the TX is that big, how high its priority is (not that bogus "high"/"medium"/"low" you see on blockchain.info) and will (together with knowing your wallet) help make good suggestions.
Wallet is blockchain.info wallet
and can't post the tx for privacy reasons.

Well, with bc.i you most can only wait.

But i can tell all the inputs were confirmed?

I need the size of each input and the number of blocks its confirmed. If you provide that information I can easily search for the TX ID.

If you do not want to disclose this information you have to calculate the priority yourself -> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees#Priority_transactions

there was no unconfirmed inputs still the tx i just sent got that big in size.
and how do i know before sending what will be the size of the transaction so that i can set the fee accordingly as you are saying to pay according to per kB?

With blockchain.info? I dont know. I mainly use bitcoin core, it tells me how large the TX will be. A rough estimate is 180b*inputs + 32b*outputs for uncompressed keys and 134b*inputs+32b*outputs for compressed keys. IIRC it varies by about 10 byte (+/-) per input.

Please help how to fix this or will it be ever confirmed?
I read on other site we can respent using double spend to fix the tx fee issue is that possible?

You have two options, neither is quick.

#1 wait. blockchain.info will "return" the coins to your wallet after a few days.

#2 try a double spend. This will however not work with blockchain.info. You would need to export the private keys and import them into a different wallet. This will also need time as a double spend only works if a large number of nodes has already forgotten about the TX.

#3 Well there is a 3rd. Get in touch with a miner or mining pool and ask them nicely to include your TX with priority even though your fee is low for its size.
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March 30, 2016, 11:23:49 AM
#4
If it is unconfirmed for few days (probably 2) , network will foget it.
Then you can brodcast it again.
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March 30, 2016, 11:18:55 AM
#3
I sent a big amount in bitcoins 7+ bitcoins
I don't know what i did wrong Sad The transaction size is big i mean really big 16000+ bytes and the fees i paid was only 0.0001 btc

You should always pay a fee per (k)byte and not a fixed amount.

I am scared if even it will get confirm or not.I wonder if it's possible to rebroadcast or resent the transaction with higher fees?

Depends, which wallet / service do you use?

Believe me if i knew the transaction size can be that big i would have paid 0.01 btc fees Sad now what do i do frenss?

"frenss"?

P.S I control both the address the one i sent it from and the one i sent it to.Is there any way i can resent the transaction with high fee or just cancel this one or anu other way?I think I am screwed Sad

Can you post the TX ID? That way we can see why the TX is that big, how high its priority is (not that bogus "high"/"medium"/"low" you see on blockchain.info) and will (together with knowing your wallet) help make good suggestions.
Wallet is blockchain.info wallet
and can't post the tx for privacy reasons.
But i can tell all the inputs were confirmed? there was no unconfirmed inputs still the tx i just sent got that big in size.
and how do i know before sending what will be the size of the transaction so that i can set the fee accordingly as you are saying to pay according to per kB?
Please help how to fix this or will it be ever confirmed?
I read on other site we can respent using double spend to fix the tx fee issue is that possible?
copper member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1528
No I dont escrow anymore.
March 30, 2016, 11:14:41 AM
#2
I sent a big amount in bitcoins 7+ bitcoins
I don't know what i did wrong Sad The transaction size is big i mean really big 16000+ bytes and the fees i paid was only 0.0001 btc

You should always pay a fee per (k)byte and not a fixed amount.

I am scared if even it will get confirm or not.I wonder if it's possible to rebroadcast or resent the transaction with higher fees?

Depends, which wallet / service do you use?

Believe me if i knew the transaction size can be that big i would have paid 0.01 btc fees Sad now what do i do frenss?

"frenss"?

P.S I control both the address the one i sent it from and the one i sent it to.Is there any way i can resent the transaction with high fee or just cancel this one or anu other way?I think I am screwed Sad

Can you post the TX ID? That way we can see why the TX is that big, how high its priority is (not that bogus "high"/"medium"/"low" you see on blockchain.info) and will (together with knowing your wallet) help make good suggestions.
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March 30, 2016, 11:11:11 AM
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