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Quote from: jaberwock on June 09, 2024, 11:58:33 AM

Quote from: Cantsay on June 07, 2024, 06:18:05 PM

What guarantee do you have that the selection process will be done fairly? We’re talking about telegram here meaning there’s a possibility for you to just select your other accounts and present them as the winners and then continue the process for the next sets of users that joins your channel and you’d have successfully gotten free subscribers without spending a dime.

So it would be nice to know that you’re indeed not going to use any dubious means to cheat, it would be better to use an online random selector so that everyone can verify the results to see that the winners were selected fairly.

I haven’t joined any group for quit some time now, but since it’s free I might try giving it a short and see if I gets selected among the winners.

I was about to say that we will still notice it if the winners are repeating but then I realized that it's also possible to change our usernames in Telegram right? And they'll possibly do it to remove our suspicion. They still can't guarantee that people will stay especially if they think that they can't benefit there, unless if they offer interesting stuffs that can make people to keep on coming back at them, like a free sports betting tip or something.

Online random selector seems an outdated way to pick a winner and may not also be a good fit if we are here in crypto but is using such provably fair system not possible here? As I can trust this one better.

From what the Op has explained after my post I think we should let him run it the way he wishes to - since his goal is not to focus on just Bitcointalk users then it won’t be fair for this community to be the one to decide how the game is being run. Also, there’s a possibility of it being canceled due to low number of participants - the first time I went to the channel the Op is trying to gain subscribers to I saw just 7 members and now it’s 9 meaning since the creation of this thread only two people have subscribe to the channel - unless he finds a way to boost the channel I don’t see any reason to him continuing the game since he didn’t achieve his goal.

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Quote from: Cantsay on June 07, 2024, 06:18:05 PM

What guarantee do you have that the selection process will be done fairly? We’re talking about telegram here meaning there’s a possibility for you to just select your other accounts and present them as the winners and then continue the process for the next sets of users that joins your channel and you’d have successfully gotten free subscribers without spending a dime.

So it would be nice to know that you’re indeed not going to use any dubious means to cheat, it would be better to use an online random selector so that everyone can verify the results to see that the winners were selected fairly.

I haven’t joined any group for quit some time now, but since it’s free I might try giving it a short and see if I gets selected among the winners.

I was about to say that we will still notice it if the winners are repeating but then I realized that it's also possible to change our usernames in Telegram right? And they'll possibly do it to remove our suspicion. They still can't guarantee that people will stay especially if they think that they can't benefit there, unless if they offer interesting stuffs that can make people to keep on coming back at them, like a free sports betting tip or something.

Online random selector seems an outdated way to pick a winner and may not also be a good fit if we are here in crypto but is using such provably fair system not possible here? As I can trust this one better.

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Quote from: Radek4921 on June 07, 2024, 02:57:12 PM

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OP don't see what others are saying here as an attack, but instead their respective opinions an perception towards what you're offering, we all know how the world of crypto now has turned to and gambling as well, everyone want to receive something free and that worth it as well, same also are increasing numbers of scams and other related offers we may not have to trust at all because they are too real to be true, but if you think yours is going to be an exceptional and a reputable offer many will see to like, then keep up the good work and maintain a good trust in all you do here and there.

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Quote from: CryptSafe on June 08, 2024, 01:32:22 PM

Quote from: coin-investor on June 08, 2024, 06:55:19 AM

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Quote from: Cantsay on June 07, 2024, 06:18:05 PM

Quote from: Radek4921 on June 07, 2024, 04:26:50 PM

well, I changed the title, I hope everyone will know that it's just a "chance"

What guarantee do you have that the selection process will be done fairly? We’re talking about telegram here meaning there’s a possibility for you to just select your other accounts and present them as the winners and then continue the process for the next sets of users that joins your channel and you’d have successfully gotten free subscribers without spending a dime.

So it would be nice to know that you’re indeed not going to use any dubious means to cheat, it would be better to use an online random selector so that everyone can verify the results to see that the winners were selected fairly.

I haven’t joined any group for quit some time now, but since it’s free I might try giving it a short and see if I gets selected among the winners.

A recording of the drawing will definitely be added. In addition, there will probably be a live stream on Twitch at exactly the scheduled time. If you have any other ideas to make the draw more credible, let me know.

Why not make it exclusive for Bitcointalk users with member rankings to qualify for the drawing and escrow the funds to a legit escrow service, the drawing will look credible and people here will not think that there's going to be cheating, the concern is valid because before you there have been so many similar contest like this that involves cheating.

Anyway this is just a recommendation so there will be no shadow of doubt that the drawing is legit and change your signature to something that will not misled those who will click it.

You are absolutely correct. OP escrowing the funds for the contest can assure the participants that their quest for victory would not be in vain as the funds are already escrowed to a reputable member who would oversee the distribution of the rewards as per the results of the contest.

OP should try as much as possible be transparent in the contest because it is known that in contest of this nature, their are always tendencies of cheating by the host. So to avoid that, a reputable member(s) should be inaugurated to oversee the contest and come up with the result for the rewards if that would be possible to do. I think with this, there would be some level of confidence by the contestants involved in the game.

I want to organize competitions myself and transferring funds to someone I don't know as an intermediary is out of the question. I will send the prizes myself - if you don't trust me - your loss - maybe you will decide to participate when you notice more winners. This is my giveaway and it will be run on my terms - I know that many people have limited trust because they have been scammed in the past, but you have practically nothing to lose here - you can unsubscribe or like on YouTube if you notice that it is a scam. I don't require a penny deposit, so that's why I think your fears are definitely overblown. The drawing will be conducted live, if one of the winners is a bitcointalk user, he will certainly report here. I don't have to convince you of my honesty - you will see it only with time. Some people probably won't believe it until they win - I invite those who want to risk these 20 seconds of their time to take part.

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Quote from: Radek4921 on June 07, 2024, 02:57:12 PM

5 * 0,1 ltc for every winner
https://t.me/CryptoGamblr

We don't want to waste time guessing and if not for Yahoo's post we would not know what are these all about, do you think this kind of post builds trust creating an unclear and vague discussion?

No wonder many have second thoughts about joining your contest because you do not know how to explain it properly and like all the posters before me it's kind of misleading.
Now you have too much explaining to do.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on June 07, 2024, 03:54:49 PM

You shouldn't be so misleading as far as what's in your sig and the title. For those who are curious, it's a chance for 5 people to win .01ltc each by liking a video and making a comment.

I'm not misleading anyone, you're right that you have to subscribe to the channel, like the video and comment (you don't have to pay anything). But you're misleading because it's 0.1 LTC for every 5 winning people.

Your information is too poor and your topic and the content are two different concepts until you give an indepth explanation before people will understand what you mean and for like this it is too shallow. And another thing again telegram is not a friendly place to like and win. The subscription, is it free or paid? And one thing you have to k ow that gambling doesn't guarantee anyone win so if the person didn't win and that means the subscription fee is wasted. Therefore you need to give details and not the skeletons information about your channel but add fresh.

The information has been updated - for users' information, participation in the giveaway is 100% free of charge. If there is a lot of interest, the amounts to be won will be larger and giveaways will be more frequent.

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Quote from: coin-investor on June 08, 2024, 06:55:19 AM

Quote from: Radek4921 on June 08, 2024, 03:06:43 AM

Quote from: Cantsay on June 07, 2024, 06:18:05 PM

Quote from: Radek4921 on June 07, 2024, 04:26:50 PM

well, I changed the title, I hope everyone will know that it's just a "chance"

What guarantee do you have that the selection process will be done fairly? We’re talking about telegram here meaning there’s a possibility for you to just select your other accounts and present them as the winners and then continue the process for the next sets of users that joins your channel and you’d have successfully gotten free subscribers without spending a dime.

So it would be nice to know that you’re indeed not going to use any dubious means to cheat, it would be better to use an online random selector so that everyone can verify the results to see that the winners were selected fairly.

I haven’t joined any group for quit some time now, but since it’s free I might try giving it a short and see if I gets selected among the winners.

A recording of the drawing will definitely be added. In addition, there will probably be a live stream on Twitch at exactly the scheduled time. If you have any other ideas to make the draw more credible, let me know.

Why not make it exclusive for Bitcointalk users with member rankings to qualify for the drawing and escrow the funds to a legit escrow service, the drawing will look credible and people here will not think that there's going to be cheating, the concern is valid because before you there have been so many similar contest like this that involves cheating.

Anyway this is just a recommendation so there will be no shadow of doubt that the drawing is legit and change your signature to something that will not misled those who will click it.

You are absolutely correct. OP escrowing the funds for the contest can assure the participants that their quest for victory would not be in vain as the funds are already escrowed to a reputable member who would oversee the distribution of the rewards as per the results of the contest.

OP should try as much as possible be transparent in the contest because it is known that in contest of this nature, their are always tendencies of cheating by the host. So to avoid that, a reputable member(s) should be inaugurated to oversee the contest and come up with the result for the rewards if that would be possible to do. I think with this, there would be some level of confidence by the contestants involved in the game.

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Quote from: Radek4921 on June 07, 2024, 02:57:12 PM

5 * 0,1 ltc for every winner
https://t.me/CryptoGamblr

We don't want to waste time guessing and if not for Yahoo's post we would not know what are these all about, do you think this kind of post builds trust creating an unclear and vague discussion?

No wonder many have second thoughts about joining your contest because you do not know how to explain it properly and like all the posters before me it's kind of misleading.
Now you have too much explaining to do.

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Quote from: Radek4921 on June 07, 2024, 04:11:05 PM

Quote from: yahoo62278 on June 07, 2024, 03:54:49 PM

You shouldn't be so misleading as far as what's in your sig and the title. For those who are curious, it's a chance for 5 people to win .01ltc each by liking a video and making a comment.

I'm not misleading anyone, you're right that you have to subscribe to the channel, like the video and comment (you don't have to pay anything). But you're misleading because it's 0.1 LTC for every 5 winning people.

Your information is too poor and your topic and the content are two different concepts until you give an indepth explanation before people will understand what you mean and for like this it is too shallow. And another thing again telegram is not a friendly place to like and win. The subscription, is it free or paid? And one thing you have to k ow that gambling doesn't guarantee anyone win so if the person didn't win and that means the subscription fee is wasted. Therefore you need to give details and not the skeletons information about your channel but add fresh.

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Quote from: coin-investor on June 08, 2024, 06:55:19 AM

Quote from: Radek4921 on June 08, 2024, 03:06:43 AM

Quote from: Cantsay on June 07, 2024, 06:18:05 PM

Quote from: Radek4921 on June 07, 2024, 04:26:50 PM

well, I changed the title, I hope everyone will know that it's just a "chance"

What guarantee do you have that the selection process will be done fairly? We’re talking about telegram here meaning there’s a possibility for you to just select your other accounts and present them as the winners and then continue the process for the next sets of users that joins your channel and you’d have successfully gotten free subscribers without spending a dime.

So it would be nice to know that you’re indeed not going to use any dubious means to cheat, it would be better to use an online random selector so that everyone can verify the results to see that the winners were selected fairly.

I haven’t joined any group for quit some time now, but since it’s free I might try giving it a short and see if I gets selected among the winners.

A recording of the drawing will definitely be added. In addition, there will probably be a live stream on Twitch at exactly the scheduled time. If you have any other ideas to make the draw more credible, let me know.

Why not make it exclusive for Bitcointalk users with member rankings to qualify for the drawing and escrow the funds to a legit escrow service, the drawing will look credible and people here will not think that there's going to be cheating, the concern is valid because before you there have been so many similar contest like this that involves cheating.

Anyway this is just a recommendation so there will be no shadow of doubt that the drawing is legit and change your signature to something that will not misled those who will click it.

I do not require any deposit. The only thing the user risks is about 20 seconds of their time. I don't want to limit myself only to bitcointalk users, there are many crypto players who do not have an account here.

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Quote from: Radek4921 on June 08, 2024, 03:06:43 AM

Quote from: Cantsay on June 07, 2024, 06:18:05 PM

Quote from: Radek4921 on June 07, 2024, 04:26:50 PM

well, I changed the title, I hope everyone will know that it's just a "chance"

What guarantee do you have that the selection process will be done fairly? We’re talking about telegram here meaning there’s a possibility for you to just select your other accounts and present them as the winners and then continue the process for the next sets of users that joins your channel and you’d have successfully gotten free subscribers without spending a dime.

So it would be nice to know that you’re indeed not going to use any dubious means to cheat, it would be better to use an online random selector so that everyone can verify the results to see that the winners were selected fairly.

I haven’t joined any group for quit some time now, but since it’s free I might try giving it a short and see if I gets selected among the winners.

A recording of the drawing will definitely be added. In addition, there will probably be a live stream on Twitch at exactly the scheduled time. If you have any other ideas to make the draw more credible, let me know.

Why not make it exclusive for Bitcointalk users with member rankings to qualify for the drawing and escrow the funds to a legit escrow service, the drawing will look credible and people here will not think that there's going to be cheating, the concern is valid because before you there have been so many similar contest like this that involves cheating.

Anyway this is just a recommendation so there will be no shadow of doubt that the drawing is legit and change your signature to something that will not misled those who will click it.

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Quote from: Hispo on June 08, 2024, 06:08:39 AM

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on June 07, 2024, 03:54:49 PM

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Call it especulation from my part, but I suspect what OP is trying to do is growing a channel using this change of winning Litecoin and then (when there is much people on the channel) he will likely try to monetize the traffick of the channel.
It is something I have seen before, I actually have joined those useful telegram channels, which offer economical information and exchange rates of the currency of my country, and from time to time they post mose advertisement which is completely unrelated to economics and the country itself. I was once scrolling down that same channel on Telegram to get up to date to the exchange rate of our currency and I encountered advertisement of shoes, some weeks later I did the same and they were advertising an Only fans Model.

It is not an illegal thing trying to grow a channel and then monetize it, as long as OP is transparent with the chances of winning the litecoins and there is a way to verify there is no fool play with the awarding of the money/assignation of the Litecoin, then it would be ok.

The topic of this channel is crypto gambling. it will continue to be conducted in a similar format, i.e. I will show various gaming strategies on these websites. When it comes to honesty - I've done giveaways on YouTube before. The results will be shown in a way that leaves no doubt as to whether they are fair. Each user will have the same chance to win.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on June 07, 2024, 04:16:02 PM

Quote from: Radek4921 on June 07, 2024, 04:11:05 PM

Quote from: yahoo62278 on June 07, 2024, 03:54:49 PM

🍑

Call it especulation from my part, but I suspect what OP is trying to do is growing a channel using this change of winning Litecoin and then (when there is much people on the channel) he will likely try to monetize the traffick of the channel.
It is something I have seen before, I actually have joined those useful telegram channels, which offer economical information and exchange rates of the currency of my country, and from time to time they post mose advertisement which is completely unrelated to economics and the country itself. I was once scrolling down that same channel on Telegram to get up to date to the exchange rate of our currency and I encountered advertisement of shoes, some weeks later I did the same and they were advertising an Only fans Model.

It is not an illegal thing trying to grow a channel and then monetize it, as long as OP is transparent with the chances of winning the litecoins and there is a way to verify there is no fool play with the awarding of the money/assignation of the Litecoin, then it would be ok.

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Quote from: Cantsay on June 07, 2024, 06:18:05 PM

Quote from: Radek4921 on June 07, 2024, 04:26:50 PM

well, I changed the title, I hope everyone will know that it's just a "chance"

What guarantee do you have that the selection process will be done fairly? We’re talking about telegram here meaning there’s a possibility for you to just select your other accounts and present them as the winners and then continue the process for the next sets of users that joins your channel and you’d have successfully gotten free subscribers without spending a dime.

So it would be nice to know that you’re indeed not going to use any dubious means to cheat, it would be better to use an online random selector so that everyone can verify the results to see that the winners were selected fairly.

I haven’t joined any group for quit some time now, but since it’s free I might try giving it a short and see if I gets selected among the winners.

A recording of the drawing will definitely be added. In addition, there will probably be a live stream on Twitch at exactly the scheduled time. If you have any other ideas to make the draw more credible, let me know.

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Quote from: Radek4921 on June 07, 2024, 04:26:50 PM

well, I changed the title, I hope everyone will know that it's just a "chance"

What guarantee do you have that the selection process will be done fairly? We’re talking about telegram here meaning there’s a possibility for you to just select your other accounts and present them as the winners and then continue the process for the next sets of users that joins your channel and you’d have successfully gotten free subscribers without spending a dime.

So it would be nice to know that you’re indeed not going to use any dubious means to cheat, it would be better to use an online random selector so that everyone can verify the results to see that the winners were selected fairly.

I haven’t joined any group for quit some time now, but since it’s free I might try giving it a short and see if I gets selected among the winners.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on June 07, 2024, 04:16:02 PM

Quote from: Radek4921 on June 07, 2024, 04:11:05 PM

Quote from: yahoo62278 on June 07, 2024, 03:54:49 PM

You shouldn't be so misleading as far as what's in your sig and the title. For those who are curious, it's a chance for 5 people to win .01ltc each by liking a video and making a comment.

I'm not misleading anyone, you're right that you have to subscribe to the channel, like the video and comment (you don't have to pay anything). But you're misleading because it's 0.1 LTC for every 5 winning people.

Ok so I put the wrong amount, my bad. Your title says free ltc telegram channel which is a clickbait title as not everyone who joins the channel gets "free" ltc, just a chance.

Regardless, when you post things like you did please add more info so as not to mislead the members of the community.

well, I changed the title, I hope everyone will know that it's just a "chance"

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Quote from: Radek4921 on June 07, 2024, 04:11:05 PM

Quote from: yahoo62278 on June 07, 2024, 03:54:49 PM

You shouldn't be so misleading as far as what's in your sig and the title. For those who are curious, it's a chance for 5 people to win .01ltc each by liking a video and making a comment.

I'm not misleading anyone, you're right that you have to subscribe to the channel, like the video and comment (you don't have to pay anything). But you're misleading because it's 0.1 LTC for every 5 winning people.

Ok so I put the wrong amount, my bad. Your title says free ltc telegram channel which is a clickbait title as not everyone who joins the channel gets "free" ltc, just a chance.

Regardless, when you post things like you did please add more info so as not to mislead the members of the community.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on June 07, 2024, 03:54:49 PM

You shouldn't be so misleading as far as what's in your sig and the title. For those who are curious, it's a chance for 5 people to win .01ltc each by liking a video and making a comment.

I'm not misleading anyone, you're right that you have to subscribe to the channel, like the video and comment (you don't have to pay anything). But you're misleading because it's 0.1 LTC for every 5 winning people.

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You shouldn't be so misleading as far as what's in your sig and the title. For those who are curious, it's a chance for 5 people to win .01ltc each by liking a video and making a comment.

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Channel was deleted due to lack of activity.
I hope i will back with better idea how can i do it better.

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