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Quote from: DarkStar_ on February 21, 2020, 10:31:34 PM

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Quote from: Stakefast on February 20, 2020, 04:17:52 AM

Today's free prediction:

PFC Ludogorets 1945 Razgrad vs. Inter Milano

Prediction: Inter Milano
Odds: 1,64

Inter Milano won 2:0 against PFC Ludogorets

Inter Milan ML closed at odds of 1.75 (Pinnacle). Based off of Pinnacle closing line, you got horribly negative CLV. The implied (vig removed) probability of Inter to win was 54.50%, which should pay at 1.835 for you to end up with no profit in the end. Looking at short term streaks for tipsters is useless and can be simply variance. The likely result (assuming that other bets end with negative or zero CLV, which I bet is true) is that you will lose in the long term, and be out even more by paying tipster fees.

You had -CLV on Gerasimov E. - Novak D (1.617 taken by you, 1.67 closing), -CLV (with vig removed) on Cecchinato M. - Lajovic D (1.665 taken by you, 1.66 closing), -CLV on Krstin P. - De Greef A. (1.694 taken by you, 1.71 closing), -CLV on Cilic M. - Ivashka I. (1.349 taken, 1.38 closing) and probably almost all of your other bets as well.

You're going to lose money. I would not recommend anyone to purchase the tips that they are offering. Playing 1% house edge dice ends up more profitable (read: lose less) in the long run, especially after tipster fees.

finally a very professional and detailed answer! if the OP is legit he will rethink his business idea and even close the thread

thanks

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Quote from: Stakefast on February 20, 2020, 04:04:13 PM

Quote from: Stakefast on February 20, 2020, 04:17:52 AM

Today's free prediction:

PFC Ludogorets 1945 Razgrad vs. Inter Milano

Prediction: Inter Milano
Odds: 1,64

Inter Milano won 2:0 against PFC Ludogorets

Inter Milan ML closed at odds of 1.75 (Pinnacle). Based off of Pinnacle closing line, you got horribly negative CLV. The implied (vig removed) probability of Inter to win was 54.50%, which should pay at 1.835 for you to end up with no profit in the end. Looking at short term streaks for tipsters is useless and can be simply variance. The likely result (assuming that other bets end with negative or zero CLV, which I bet is true) is that you will lose in the long term, and be out even more by paying tipster fees.

You had -CLV on Gerasimov E. - Novak D (1.617 taken by you, 1.67 closing), -CLV (with vig removed) on Cecchinato M. - Lajovic D (1.665 taken by you, 1.66 closing), -CLV on Krstin P. - De Greef A. (1.694 taken by you, 1.71 closing), -CLV on Cilic M. - Ivashka I. (1.349 taken, 1.38 closing) and probably almost all of your other bets as well.

You're going to lose money. I would not recommend anyone to purchase the tips that they are offering. Playing 1% house edge dice ends up more profitable (read: lose less) in the long run, especially after tipster fees.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on February 20, 2020, 05:15:33 AM

Regardless of what you have claim about the winning percentage but the question is l, did anyone buy your package?. If no one did buy then I suggest that anyone should not put their picks on this package 100%. My thoughts is you are looking to earn money by selling your predictions but if it's really 85% then you should focus on it by betting yourself and earn.

So far there was no people giving honest reviews regarding his tips so i assume none of people at here buying the tips and as posts above me he was buying too the tips so he won't give anymore free tips however sport bets is based on skill how to analyze the particular teams and matches so i have to says if people can analyze by themself for sport bets then eventually they can earn money from it and buying tips won't be necessary anymore

And that's how things works, if you already knew how to analyze then buying tips is no longer needed, but to those who are desperate and wanted to try some luck buying tipsters pick blindly is not impossible there are people who are willing to take the gamble paying for such services and hope for the best outcome.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on February 20, 2020, 05:15:33 AM

Regardless of what you have claim about the winning percentage but the question is l, did anyone buy your package?. If no one did buy then I suggest that anyone should not put their picks on this package 100%. My thoughts is you are looking to earn money by selling your predictions but if it's really 85% then you should focus on it by betting yourself and earn.

So far there was no people giving honest reviews regarding his tips so i assume none of people at here buying the tips and as posts above me he was buying too the tips so he won't give anymore free tips however sport bets is based on skill how to analyze the particular teams and matches so i have to says if people can analyze by themself for sport bets then eventually they can earn money from it and buying tips won't be necessary anymore

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Quote from: Haunebu on February 19, 2020, 06:04:49 AM

Checked out your packages and they don't seem very attractive in my opinion. 85% win rate over the long term in sports betting is insane in my opinion which is why your contact would have to prove that he is legit by showing proof of all 8K bets.

Also, it would be much better if he provided several free bets(Minimum 1.5 odds or higher) to prove that his skills are legit which would tempt gamblers to sign up for the packages. Just a couple of suggestions from my side.

85% win rate is not impressive at all if the picks are always the favorites,,, which means you are losing money anyway. To BREAK even at 1.10 picks,,, means you need 10/11 picks which is over 90% win rate.

So like you said, 1.5 or higher is only the way to make this and no way this is achieved with 85%. Win rate is not important. Bet amount, % of bankroll and overall stats =+EV! That is how it is done!

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Quote from: Magoo8 on February 21, 2020, 02:25:41 AM

A guy betting .005 a game isn't winning 85%. He would be betting the max if he were a winning gambler 85%.

Thats one of the most stupid posts I've seen in a while, thats for sure

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A guy betting .005 a game isn't winning 85%. He would be betting the max if he were a winning gambler 85%.

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Quote from: Stakefast on February 20, 2020, 04:17:52 AM

Today's free prediction:

PFC Ludogorets 1945 Razgrad vs. Inter Milano

Prediction: Inter Milano
Odds: 1,64

Bet at Nitrogensports: https://www.blockz.network/out/nitrogensports
or
Stake: https://www.blockz.network/out/stake

There are currently 3 other bet's we're betting onto today, will update the results of them here today evening.

Inter Milano won 2:0 against PFC Ludogorets

I cannot post free picks every day since I am also buying them.

I just refer you to a analyst, every payment will be made through him. I just get a provision for getting him more buyers for his service, he already has a established group on telegram.

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Regardless of what you have claim about the winning percentage but the question is l, did anyone buy your package?. If no one did buy then I suggest that anyone should not put their picks on this package 100%. My thoughts is you are looking to earn money by selling your predictions but if it's really 85% then you should focus on it by betting yourself and earn.

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Today's free prediction:

PFC Ludogorets 1945 Razgrad vs. Inter Milano

Prediction: Inter Milano
Odds: 1,64

Bet at Nitrogensports: https://www.blockz.network/out/nitrogensports
or
Stake: https://www.blockz.network/out/stake

There are currently 3 other bet's we're betting onto today, will update the results of them here today evening.

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since day 1 here in forums I haven't seen a single good tipster here in bitcointalk , in my early days I used to believe that some of the tipsters here are good but with time it was clear that none of them understand sportsbetting
85% is a joke and a professional tipster won't even mention the strike rate most of the times , what matters the most is the yield so you would see him mentioning the yield alone or the yeild with the SR

the good tipsters in blogabet for example are making tons of money but all the picks there for paid tipsters are documented and can't be faked
if someone is really that good he should be using blogabet instead of bitcointalk , or maybe mixing both services together but never bitcointalk alone

85% with the odds I'm seeing in screenshots is impossible
some screenshots and telegram won't prove a thing , if you want to really prove your service you have to use a 3rd party tracker

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People here want to see your averages. Post your record here on a daily basis so that people have a reference. Don't edit your posted prior picks but instead, update the result on the first main post. After that make your weekly stats.

You need a couple of months or more before you can prove your legitimacy here. 85% win rate is possible in the long-run but without an updated proof, no one will have an interest. Posting previous picks won't help as we don't know if that was your pick or made specifically to show positive results.

People here don't like to visit on Telegram. If only for proofs no need to go there. You can erase people's doubts here if you managed to achieve that 85% win rate and post your records here.

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Quote from: Haunebu on February 19, 2020, 03:50:17 PM

Quote from: bitbunnny on February 19, 2020, 10:51:40 AM

Don't say that you actually believed this advertisment. 85% win rate is crazy and although this number attracts player they will soon realize that is not going to happen. This is not going to make you rich so don't waist your time and money. I don't think that someone can actually prove such win rate.

I clearly mentioned that the 85% win rate is insane and tough to believe which is why I guess you misunderstood my post. I don't believe anything until adequate proof is available.

Quote from: Stakefast on February 19, 2020, 01:59:39 PM

We only have 1 week of experience with the analyst so far but a pretty successfull week, as posted above.

This is the problem right here. 1 week of experience is nothing basically. If you want people to show interest in your offer, your contact would need to provide his 8K bet history with a 85% win rate as I mentioned in my post earlier. Its all about the proof(Legit).

Thats not a problem, he can proof everything via telegram.

Will post daily updates in this thread so you can make sure its legit

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Quote from: bitbunnny on February 19, 2020, 10:51:40 AM

Don't say that you actually believed this advertisment. 85% win rate is crazy and although this number attracts player they will soon realize that is not going to happen. This is not going to make you rich so don't waist your time and money. I don't think that someone can actually prove such win rate.

I clearly mentioned that the 85% win rate is insane and tough to believe which is why I guess you misunderstood my post. I don't believe anything until adequate proof is available.

Quote from: Stakefast on February 19, 2020, 01:59:39 PM

We only have 1 week of experience with the analyst so far but a pretty successfull week, as posted above.

This is the problem right here. 1 week of experience is nothing basically. If you want people to show interest in your offer, your contact would need to provide his 8K bet history with a 85% win rate as I mentioned in my post earlier. Its all about the proof(Legit).

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Quote from: JackpotRacer on February 19, 2020, 01:52:13 PM

Quote from: Stakefast on February 19, 2020, 10:52:49 AM

Thanks for ignoring my posts.

I actually just prooved last weeks rate.

We'll keep this thread updated so you can make sure its actually ~ 85%.

Quote from: Stakefast on February 19, 2020, 10:22:48 AM

Quote from: Stakefast on February 19, 2020, 08:42:46 AM

This match is currently running:
Pierre-Hugues Herbert v Mikhail Kukushkin
Prediction: Herbert wins

Match Live Stats:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Pierre-Hugues+Herbert+v+Mikhail+Kukushkin&rlz=1C1CHBD_deDE789DE789&oq=Pierre-Hugues+Herbert+v+Mikhail+Kukushkin&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Todays match predictions:

Bet proof: http://prntscr.com/r4oaua

Pierre-Hugues Herbert 2:0 Mikhail Kukushkin: Win
Dennis Novak 0:2 Egor Gerasimov: Win

This is from today, you can see the weekly overview at the original post.

it looks like that you are ignoring the question of most users here? We would like to see proof but not only for one week
sure you can ignore also my question for the real proof

The analyst itself can proof you anything via telegram. We are advertising for this service because we think its one of the best (we've never had such a promised win rate ever and we tried a lot of these services) He posts his weekly/monthly and year statistics in the telegram group. We only have 1 week of experience with the analyst so far but a pretty successfull week, as posted above.

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Quote from: Stakefast on February 19, 2020, 10:52:49 AM

Thanks for ignoring my posts.

I actually just prooved last weeks rate.

We'll keep this thread updated so you can make sure its actually ~ 85%.

Quote from: Stakefast on February 19, 2020, 10:22:48 AM

Quote from: Stakefast on February 19, 2020, 08:42:46 AM

This match is currently running:
Pierre-Hugues Herbert v Mikhail Kukushkin
Prediction: Herbert wins

Match Live Stats:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Pierre-Hugues+Herbert+v+Mikhail+Kukushkin&rlz=1C1CHBD_deDE789DE789&oq=Pierre-Hugues+Herbert+v+Mikhail+Kukushkin&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Todays match predictions:

Bet proof: http://prntscr.com/r4oaua

Pierre-Hugues Herbert 2:0 Mikhail Kukushkin: Win
Dennis Novak 0:2 Egor Gerasimov: Win

This is from today, you can see the weekly overview at the original post.

it looks like that you are ignoring the question of most users here? We would like to see proof but not only for one week
sure you can ignore also my question for the real proof

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Quote from: STT on February 19, 2020, 12:01:35 PM

Not sure this is how its being done, just reminds me of an old scheme that was common for years probably is still being used somewhere with new punters maybe. The idea is to predict the result to various penny stocks going up, getting good news and gaining 1000% say; this performance is possible and it does happen just like great betting streaks can happen. The trick is to make a prediction for a thousand stocks and then only in retrospect mention to buyers of the newsletter the ones that went up as proof of your ability to see the future not the ones that went broke. Similarly here, the proof could be to record every combination of match result and then just select after as proof the one that proved correct in retrospect and not mention the others. I doubt its the case as its such a well known known trick, but I always thought that was a funny little easy money earner people pulled and worth mentioning.

Thanks for your interest. We understand your concern. However, We would have to bet 50$ on each bet, on each account, on each session which would basicly make our btc vanish to just have a proof for this thread... hm Grin

Makes no sense.

Also we wouldnt offer a "test package" if we doubt our own odds. 20$ brings us nowhere, its just for some people to try the service.

Updates on the current win rate will follow tommorow

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Not sure this is how its being done, just reminds me of an old scheme that was common for years probably is still being used somewhere with new punters maybe. The idea is to predict the result to various penny stocks going up, getting good news and gaining 1000% say; this performance is possible and it does happen just like great betting streaks can happen. The trick is to make a prediction for a thousand stocks and then only in retrospect mention to buyers of the newsletter the ones that went up as proof of your ability to see the future not the ones that went broke. Similarly here, the proof could be to record every combination of match result and then just select after as proof the one that proved correct in retrospect and not mention the others. I doubt its the case as its such a well known known trick, but I always thought that was a funny little easy money earner people pulled and worth mentioning.

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Quote from: bitbunnny on February 19, 2020, 10:51:40 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on February 19, 2020, 06:04:49 AM

Checked out your packages and they don't seem very attractive in my opinion. 85% win rate over the long term in sports betting is insane in my opinion which is why your contact would have to prove that he is legit by showing proof of all 8K bets.

Also, it would be much better if he provided several free bets(Minimum 1.5 odds or higher) to prove that his skills are legit which would tempt gamblers to sign up for the packages. Just a couple of suggestions from my side.

Don't say that you actually believed this advertisment. 85% win rate is crazy and although this number attracts player they will soon realize that is not going to happen. This is not going to make you rich so don't waist your time and money.

Thanks for ignoring my posts.

I actually just prooved last weeks rate.

We'll keep this thread updated so you can make sure its actually ~ 85%.

Quote from: Stakefast on February 19, 2020, 10:22:48 AM

Quote from: Stakefast on February 19, 2020, 08:42:46 AM

This match is currently running:
Pierre-Hugues Herbert v Mikhail Kukushkin
Prediction: Herbert wins

Match Live Stats:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Pierre-Hugues+Herbert+v+Mikhail+Kukushkin&rlz=1C1CHBD_deDE789DE789&oq=Pierre-Hugues+Herbert+v+Mikhail+Kukushkin&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Todays match predictions:

Bet proof: http://prntscr.com/r4oaua

Pierre-Hugues Herbert 2:0 Mikhail Kukushkin: Win
Dennis Novak 0:2 Egor Gerasimov: Win

This is from today, you can see the weekly overview at the original post.

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Quote from: Haunebu on February 19, 2020, 06:04:49 AM

Checked out your packages and they don't seem very attractive in my opinion. 85% win rate over the long term in sports betting is insane in my opinion which is why your contact would have to prove that he is legit by showing proof of all 8K bets.

Also, it would be much better if he provided several free bets(Minimum 1.5 odds or higher) to prove that his skills are legit which would tempt gamblers to sign up for the packages. Just a couple of suggestions from my side.

Don't say that you actually believed this advertisment. 85% win rate is crazy and although this number attracts player they will soon realize that is not going to happen. This is not going to make you rich so don't waist your time and money. I don't think that someone can actually prove such win rate.

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Quote from: Stakefast on February 19, 2020, 08:42:46 AM

This match is currently running:
Pierre-Hugues Herbert v Mikhail Kukushkin
Prediction: Herbert wins

Match Live Stats:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Pierre-Hugues+Herbert+v+Mikhail+Kukushkin&rlz=1C1CHBD_deDE789DE789&oq=Pierre-Hugues+Herbert+v+Mikhail+Kukushkin&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Todays match predictions:

Bet proof: http://prntscr.com/r4oaua

Pierre-Hugues Herbert 2:0 Mikhail Kukushkin: Win
Dennis Novak 0:2 Egor Gerasimov: Win

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Quote from: Stakefast on February 19, 2020, 08:42:46 AM

Here is the proof of the last week:
https://i.imgur.com/L8ez8PA.mp4 (You need to rightclick on the video and open in a new window to get the full resolution)

2 bets per day, 1 parlay, 20 bets / 16 win / 4 loss (1 was my own fault because I placed on 1st set win, she lost the 1st set but won the match)

This match is currently running:
Pierre-Hugues Herbert v Mikhail Kukushkin
Prediction: Herbert wins

Match Live Stats:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Pierre-Hugues+Herbert+v+Mikhail+Kukushkin&rlz=1C1CHBD_deDE789DE789&oq=Pierre-Hugues+Herbert+v+Mikhail+Kukushkin&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

This will serve as token for attracting gamblers to follow this thread and look for any chances to take part of this offer. Few free bets will encourage
people to look with the current capabilities if OP have this knowledge to bring good benefits when you buy the offers.

Check this one out if how this free bet will materialized.

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Quote from: DarkDays on February 19, 2020, 08:19:11 AM

I would encourage that people don't suspend belief until OP proves that 85% win rate figure.

Unless they can prove they have a historic win rate of 85% dating back to 2014, it is likely either hyperbole or an outright lie.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

You mean that they do suspend belief, I agree with you, this is quite the claim and needs a lot of proof. The whole proof via telegram and not showing any in the announcement feels like it's just hoisting up more red flags. 85% win ratio and they won't need to sell shit, they'd be in Vegas making millions.

Seems like you fully ignored my last 2 posts Grin

But thanks for your opinion.

And no, we're not in vegas making millions. We ourselfs place 50$ per bet. We basicly just have the contact and a deal with the analyst.

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Here is the proof of the last week:
https://i.imgur.com/L8ez8PA.mp4 (You need to rightclick on the video and open in a new window to get the full resolution)

2 bets per day, 1 parlay, 20 bets / 16 win / 4 loss (1 was my own fault because I placed on 1st set win, she lost the 1st set but won the match)

This match is currently running:
Pierre-Hugues Herbert v Mikhail Kukushkin
Prediction: Herbert wins

Match Live Stats:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Pierre-Hugues+Herbert+v+Mikhail+Kukushkin&rlz=1C1CHBD_deDE789DE789&oq=Pierre-Hugues+Herbert+v+Mikhail+Kukushkin&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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I would encourage that people don't suspend belief until OP proves that 85% win rate figure.

Unless they can prove they have a historic win rate of 85% dating back to 2014, it is likely either hyperbole or an outright lie.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

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Quote from: The Cryptovator on February 19, 2020, 07:36:09 AM

I have been against about buy sports predictions always. A question always around on mind especially when I see any prediction sales thread. Same question to you as well, if you have 80% win predictions then why are you going to sell it instead of make huge money buy yourself? Just play yourself with your predictions and enjoy luxury life. Who will be responsible if players lose fund even though you are give it free for test. Money for test ? No question.

We started with a 1000$ bankroll 1 week ago and we're currently at 1350$ with arround 50$ bets at a time. You're the only one responsible if you loose within the 15% range of loosing matches. This is still gambling and a match can turn against the prediction at any given time.

Thats why you should bet max. 5/100 of your bankroll per match.

And why not selling it? There is no competition, why shouldn't more people know about those predictions? It doesn't hurt us in any way. We do not predict on unknown/small matches.

Quote from: tyKiwanuka on February 19, 2020, 07:45:41 AM

Quote from: The Cryptovator on February 19, 2020, 07:36:09 AM

Same question to you as well, if you have 80% win predictions then why are you going to sell it instead of make huge money buy yourself?

80% says nothing, if you don't know the average odds Wink

You can win 95% of your bets and still be a losing player. For the rest see here.

@OP

Just linking to your website and expect people to make the effort to figure out themselves, is probably not what will help you a lot with getting new customers. Post free picks here for some time and make a weekly update for (all) your bets here - including staked, W/L, yield etc. statistics. It's some work, but will help in getting people interested in your service Wink

Avg. Odds are ~ 1.5 on the safe bets, in the doubles group it can be up to 4.00 ods with obviously a bigger risk on them.

Will post updates frequently on here form now on, make sure to stay tuned

Thanks for your interest and opinions, we really appreciate it.

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Quote from: The Cryptovator on February 19, 2020, 07:36:09 AM

Same question to you as well, if you have 80% win predictions then why are you going to sell it instead of make huge money buy yourself?

80% says nothing, if you don't know the average odds Wink

You can win 95% of your bets and still be a losing player. For the rest see here.

@OP

Just linking to your website and expect people to make the effort to figure out themselves, is probably not what will help you a lot with getting new customers. Post free picks here for some time and make a weekly update for (all) your bets here - including staked, W/L, yield etc. statistics. It's some work, but will help in getting people interested in your service Wink

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I have been against about buy sports predictions always. A question always around on mind especially when I see any prediction sales thread. Same question to you as well, if you have ~~80%~~ 85% win predictions then why are you going to sell it instead of make huge money buy yourself? Just play yourself with your predictions and enjoy luxury life. Who will be responsible if players lose fund even though you are give it free for test. Money for test ? No question.

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We can provide fresh proofs at telegram If you want to make sure its legit.

Maybe we post some free bets here in future

We need his permission for this though.

We will also update this thread here daily with our current wins.

Thanks for your thoughts!

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Checked out your packages and they don't seem very attractive in my opinion. 85% win rate over the long term in sports betting is insane in my opinion which is why your contact would have to prove that he is legit by showing proof of all 8K bets.

Also, it would be much better if he provided several free bets(Minimum 1.5 odds or higher) to prove that his skills are legit which would tempt gamblers to sign up for the packages. Just a couple of suggestions from my side.

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