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hero member
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July 08, 2014, 09:00:40 PM
Simpler solution is to distribute the coins evenly among all non sock puppets, so there is not just a "few" sock puppet holders who get larger share than the rest, but it's equally distributed to all  

I won't mind even destroying the coins by sending them to trash unrecoverable account., which is a fine solution too.  

They should no go to the developers.
member
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July 08, 2014, 08:43:21 PM
what a surprising day
first is 7:1
second is here
hero member
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July 08, 2014, 08:16:10 PM
i have a question here about the puppets. 2 friends of mine live in the same house (house share) so they use the same internet connection.
now i notice that they have been linked together as puppets but they are 2 different people. how will that work out for them?

Edit: surely you cant take a share off of one of them when they are 2 different people who live in the same house they each paid their own investment. how would they prove that they are 2 people?
sr. member
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July 08, 2014, 07:27:32 PM
this whole thing has turned into a joke
I don't even care anymore
I was one of the first to support this project but now it's whatever
accusing people of false sock puppets
here we go again, NODE pulling an NEM. oh well

edit: might I add that this is not the first coin that has turned into a headache for me. way to drive away people from crypto! all devs like this are doing a fantastic job at giving crypto coins a bad reputation. so sad  Huh
sr. member
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electroneum.com
July 08, 2014, 06:38:50 PM
This is getting to the point that it's causing NODE to become a joke. This I am not happy about. I care about this.

Remember guys, I was labeled a Puppet Master just yesterday. They took me off the list as one, but the panel still has to officially confirm it. Unless we are kicking people out of the community for using TOR, I don't have anything to worry about.

So not all of these people are socks guys, but yes, our stakes will be bigger because a lot of them are socks.

We should have an auction, which I would like to see, just to prove the market value is still where it was before at least. Hopefully a second auction would have stakes going for more than before. That would mean that we made through the sockpuppet debacle without as much harm as I think has done.

Believe me, we may get more coins, but they are not going to be worth as much as they were before we did the witchhunt - IMHO.

It hurt us, and it should have made us stronger. But because of how it was handled, it highlighted NODEs weakness to the rest of the community of investors.

Something has to be done. We have to do something that shows potential investors that, as a community, we can be more organized. If we do not do this, NODEs value will not be what it should.

How do we change, and become more professional and organized? Any ideas?

EDIT: I'm not placing all of this on the Devs either, it's up to all of us, as a community, to reflect something that people can trust
legendary
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July 08, 2014, 06:33:22 PM
No more auctions. That ship has sailed. divide the puppets shares between the investors and launch already
hero member
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July 08, 2014, 05:16:00 PM
Oh lord how many sockpuppets  Tongue

So Devs should keep that 60% to the distribution and im pretty sure that it will be much more than just  500 000 node/stake.
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July 08, 2014, 05:09:47 PM
It is a worse distribution because the shares of the developers are even bigger than before. It it already very big 40% of the supply and now Node team accuse people of sock puppets, take their shares away and put in their pocket.  

They can't juste put those coins in their pocket. The coins have to be distributed to the investors in some way or another.
Remember their first Announcment of NXTL.

Quote
Completely Fair Distribution †
No arbitrary rule of distribution. No dictator to tell you how to do things. The most egalitarian coin. Show your love to NXTL.


Coin distribution plan:
- Member fund (60%) - The total amount of coins that will be divided between our founders.
- Promotion fund (15%) - For promoting NXTL, encourage people to participate (forums, sites, social, etc.)
- Development fund (15%) - for developers to perform functional and system support. We will implement all the best ideas, and make the system dev friendly!
- Good Idea fund (5%) - FOr Innovations, good ideas improving NXTL .
- Test fund (3%) - Versatile Test Coins, to get people to test the platform or as give-away.
- Target fund (2%) - Small budget that will cover unplanned goals.(Donation, member support, etc).
(Announcement can still be found Here )


60% will go to the investors. They can't just change that, as they said that there will be no dicatator who tells us how things are done.
I think the Devs won't let us down in any way. They seem to be good at what they do and certainly will improve further.

everyone will have a happy bump from 450.000 coin to 500.000 and the rest goes to Node team pocket

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7664408



I wouldn't mind if they launch an auction for a few hundred stakes. Everybody wins in this situation.

Could you give me an estimate of how much money they have collected ?

I wasn't tracking ) But not much. I'd say 50 btc or something. Which is very very little.

Developers deserve shares for their works. That much I would agree with. But demeaning investors for sending you money is not cool. Was there a rule in place that say 1 person 1 share only ? Because I had an impression that they did not care for sock puppets before ?
sr. member
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electroneum.com
July 08, 2014, 04:42:04 PM
It is a worse distribution because the shares of the developers are even bigger than before. It it already very big 40% of the supply and now Node team accuse people of sock puppets, take their shares away and put in their pocket.  

They can't juste put those coins in their pocket. The coins have to be distributed to the investors in some way or another.
Remember their first Announcment of NXTL.

Quote
Completely Fair Distribution †
No arbitrary rule of distribution. No dictator to tell you how to do things. The most egalitarian coin. Show your love to NXTL.


Coin distribution plan:
- Member fund (60%) - The total amount of coins that will be divided between our founders.
- Promotion fund (15%) - For promoting NXTL, encourage people to participate (forums, sites, social, etc.)
- Development fund (15%) - for developers to perform functional and system support. We will implement all the best ideas, and make the system dev friendly!
- Good Idea fund (5%) - FOr Innovations, good ideas improving NXTL .
- Test fund (3%) - Versatile Test Coins, to get people to test the platform or as give-away.
- Target fund (2%) - Small budget that will cover unplanned goals.(Donation, member support, etc).
(Announcement can still be found Here )


60% will go to the investors. They can't just change that, as they said that there will be no dicatator who tells us how things are done.
I think the Devs won't let us down in any way. They seem to be good at what they do and certainly will improve further.

everyone will have a happy bump from 450.000 coin to 500.000 and the rest goes to Node team pocket

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7664408



I wouldn't mind if they launch an auction for a few hundred stakes. Everybody wins in this situation.

Yes, I totally agree, lets get another auction going
legendary
Activity: 1806
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July 08, 2014, 04:07:54 PM
It is a worse distribution because the shares of the developers are even bigger than before. It it already very big 40% of the supply and now Node team accuse people of sock puppets, take their shares away and put in their pocket.  

They can't juste put those coins in their pocket. The coins have to be distributed to the investors in some way or another.
Remember their first Announcment of NXTL.

Quote
Completely Fair Distribution †
No arbitrary rule of distribution. No dictator to tell you how to do things. The most egalitarian coin. Show your love to NXTL.


Coin distribution plan:
- Member fund (60%) - The total amount of coins that will be divided between our founders.
- Promotion fund (15%) - For promoting NXTL, encourage people to participate (forums, sites, social, etc.)
- Development fund (15%) - for developers to perform functional and system support. We will implement all the best ideas, and make the system dev friendly!
- Good Idea fund (5%) - FOr Innovations, good ideas improving NXTL .
- Test fund (3%) - Versatile Test Coins, to get people to test the platform or as give-away.
- Target fund (2%) - Small budget that will cover unplanned goals.(Donation, member support, etc).
(Announcement can still be found Here )


60% will go to the investors. They can't just change that, as they said that there will be no dicatator who tells us how things are done.
I think the Devs won't let us down in any way. They seem to be good at what they do and certainly will improve further.

everyone will have a happy bump from 450.000 coin to 500.000 and the rest goes to Node team pocket

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7664408



I wouldn't mind if they launch an auction for a few hundred stakes. Everybody wins in this situation.

Could you give me an estimate of how much money they have collected ?

I wasn't tracking ) But not much. I'd say 50 btc or something. Which is very very little.
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
July 08, 2014, 03:51:00 PM
It is a worse distribution because the shares of the developers are even bigger than before. It it already very big 40% of the supply and now Node team accuse people of sock puppets, take their shares away and put in their pocket.  

They can't juste put those coins in their pocket. The coins have to be distributed to the investors in some way or another.
Remember their first Announcment of NXTL.

Quote
Completely Fair Distribution †
No arbitrary rule of distribution. No dictator to tell you how to do things. The most egalitarian coin. Show your love to NXTL.


Coin distribution plan:
- Member fund (60%) - The total amount of coins that will be divided between our founders.
- Promotion fund (15%) - For promoting NXTL, encourage people to participate (forums, sites, social, etc.)
- Development fund (15%) - for developers to perform functional and system support. We will implement all the best ideas, and make the system dev friendly!
- Good Idea fund (5%) - FOr Innovations, good ideas improving NXTL .
- Test fund (3%) - Versatile Test Coins, to get people to test the platform or as give-away.
- Target fund (2%) - Small budget that will cover unplanned goals.(Donation, member support, etc).
(Announcement can still be found Here )


60% will go to the investors. They can't just change that, as they said that there will be no dicatator who tells us how things are done.
I think the Devs won't let us down in any way. They seem to be good at what they do and certainly will improve further.

everyone will have a happy bump from 450.000 coin to 500.000 and the rest goes to Node team pocket

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7664408



I wouldn't mind if they launch an auction for a few hundred stakes. Everybody wins in this situation.

Could you give me an estimate of how much money they have collected ?
member
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July 08, 2014, 03:36:39 PM
everyone will have a happy bump from 450.000 coin to 500.000 and the rest goes to Node team pocket

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7664408

Most of the time they re-change what is not accepted by the community.
And with their statement, that there is no dictator who tells what to do, I believe that they will stick to the 60% as they initially said and we investors agreed upon .

An auction would still be possible and would not violate the initial statement.
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1001
July 08, 2014, 03:35:05 PM
It is a worse distribution because the shares of the developers are even bigger than before. It it already very big 40% of the supply and now Node team accuse people of sock puppets, take their shares away and put in their pocket.  

They can't juste put those coins in their pocket. The coins have to be distributed to the investors in some way or another.
Remember their first Announcment of NXTL.

Quote
Completely Fair Distribution †
No arbitrary rule of distribution. No dictator to tell you how to do things. The most egalitarian coin. Show your love to NXTL.


Coin distribution plan:
- Member fund (60%) - The total amount of coins that will be divided between our founders.
- Promotion fund (15%) - For promoting NXTL, encourage people to participate (forums, sites, social, etc.)
- Development fund (15%) - for developers to perform functional and system support. We will implement all the best ideas, and make the system dev friendly!
- Good Idea fund (5%) - FOr Innovations, good ideas improving NXTL .
- Test fund (3%) - Versatile Test Coins, to get people to test the platform or as give-away.
- Target fund (2%) - Small budget that will cover unplanned goals.(Donation, member support, etc).
(Announcement can still be found Here )


60% will go to the investors. They can't just change that, as they said that there will be no dicatator who tells us how things are done.
I think the Devs won't let us down in any way. They seem to be good at what they do and certainly will improve further.

everyone will have a happy bump from 450.000 coin to 500.000 and the rest goes to Node team pocket

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7664408



I wouldn't mind if they launch an auction for a few hundred stakes. Everybody wins in this situation.
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
July 08, 2014, 03:17:40 PM
It is a worse distribution because the shares of the developers are even bigger than before. It it already very big 40% of the supply and now Node team accuse people of sock puppets, take their shares away and put in their pocket.  

They can't juste put those coins in their pocket. The coins have to be distributed to the investors in some way or another.
Remember their first Announcment of NXTL.

Quote
Completely Fair Distribution †
No arbitrary rule of distribution. No dictator to tell you how to do things. The most egalitarian coin. Show your love to NXTL.


Coin distribution plan:
- Member fund (60%) - The total amount of coins that will be divided between our founders.
- Promotion fund (15%) - For promoting NXTL, encourage people to participate (forums, sites, social, etc.)
- Development fund (15%) - for developers to perform functional and system support. We will implement all the best ideas, and make the system dev friendly!
- Good Idea fund (5%) - FOr Innovations, good ideas improving NXTL .
- Test fund (3%) - Versatile Test Coins, to get people to test the platform or as give-away.
- Target fund (2%) - Small budget that will cover unplanned goals.(Donation, member support, etc).
(Announcement can still be found Here )


60% will go to the investors. They can't just change that, as they said that there will be no dicatator who tells us how things are done.
I think the Devs won't let us down in any way. They seem to be good at what they do and certainly will improve further.

everyone will have a happy bump from 450.000 coin to 500.000 and the rest goes to Node team pocket

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7664408

member
Activity: 110
Merit: 10
July 08, 2014, 03:01:47 PM
It is a worse distribution because the shares of the developers are even bigger than before. It it already very big 40% of the supply and now Node team accuse people of sock puppets, take their shares away and put in their pocket.  

They can't juste put those coins in their pocket. The coins have to be distributed to the investors in some way or another.
Remember their first Announcment of NXTL.

Quote
Completely Fair Distribution †
No arbitrary rule of distribution. No dictator to tell you how to do things. The most egalitarian coin. Show your love to NXTL.


Coin distribution plan:
- Member fund (60%) - The total amount of coins that will be divided between our founders.
- Promotion fund (15%) - For promoting NXTL, encourage people to participate (forums, sites, social, etc.)
- Development fund (15%) - for developers to perform functional and system support. We will implement all the best ideas, and make the system dev friendly!
- Good Idea fund (5%) - FOr Innovations, good ideas improving NXTL .
- Test fund (3%) - Versatile Test Coins, to get people to test the platform or as give-away.
- Target fund (2%) - Small budget that will cover unplanned goals.(Donation, member support, etc).
(Announcement can still be found Here )


60% will go to the investors. They can't just change that, as they said that there will be no dicatator who tells us how things are done.
I think the Devs won't let us down in any way. They seem to be good at what they do and certainly will improve further.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
July 08, 2014, 02:48:55 PM
Wow, looks like more than 1/3rd of all accounts are sock puppets. That's a lot. Good for the rest of us. Maybe this means more coins for the rest of us Wink

Yeah I agree! I just had a look at the updated spreadsheet and its like a rainbow of sock puppet rankings on the list!  Smiley

I think the devs did a great job to be able to catch so many with their various methods. Now we just have to weigh the evidence for any who want to state their case and then we have  very solid distribution!


It is a worse distribution because the shares of the developers are even bigger than before. It it already very big 40% of the supply and now Node team accuse people of sock puppets, take their shares away and put in their pocket.   

dont worry, I've been watching and this whole thing is getting stupider every day
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
July 08, 2014, 02:46:28 PM
Wow, looks like more than 1/3rd of all accounts are sock puppets. That's a lot. Good for the rest of us. Maybe this means more coins for the rest of us Wink

Yeah I agree! I just had a look at the updated spreadsheet and its like a rainbow of sock puppet rankings on the list!  Smiley

I think the devs did a great job to be able to catch so many with their various methods. Now we just have to weigh the evidence for any who want to state their case and then we have  very solid distribution!


It is a worse distribution because the shares of the developers are even bigger than before. It it already very big 40% of the supply and now Node team accuse people of sock puppets, take their shares away and put in their pocket.   
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
July 08, 2014, 02:41:03 PM
wait.

what?

I'm a sock puppet?

LOL, this is getting good.

Looks like you might have a failed coin at hand.
hero member
Activity: 596
Merit: 500
July 08, 2014, 02:30:37 PM
Wow, looks like more than 1/3rd of all accounts are sock puppets. That's a lot. Good for the rest of us. Maybe this means more coins for the rest of us Wink

Yeah I agree! I just had a look at the updated spreadsheet and its like a rainbow of sock puppet rankings on the list!  Smiley

I think the devs did a great job to be able to catch so many with their various methods. Now we just have to weigh the evidence for any who want to state their case and then we have  very solid distribution!
member
Activity: 110
Merit: 10
July 08, 2014, 02:24:50 PM
Wow, looks like more than 1/3rd of all accounts are sock puppets. That's a lot. Good for the rest of us. Maybe this means more coins for the rest of us Wink
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