You will now lose your NEM puppets too.
Good luck with controlling my Nem stakes as they are already on AE exchange
I actually wish Nem had done better job in controlling sock puppets. It would have better for Nem
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Good luck with controlling my Nem stakes as they are already on AE exchange
I actually wish Nem had done better job in controlling sock puppets. It would have better for Nem
So people have to flip a coin who is creating Node account from work and who is going to Starbucks because he need another IP? And what if someone has been created his account from the same coffee shop? Remove everybody, what the hell.
You really think that is same coffeehouse two unrelated accounts signed up multiple times (they have log of IPs, not just account creation time) in a list with only 1400 members for an obscure coin?
Pardon me I laugh
It's your words about multiple times signing up, asshole.
I was talking about account creating.
How about co-workers sitting in the same building under the same provider? Family members? Friends?
Well, in this case, can I sign up all my coworkers and family members? There will be 20 total!
Thanks for your time.
But you have admitted that those family members, friends and coworker are really your puppets.
Do you understand now why you are pissing everyone off here, you confessed to being a puppet master, and now you will always be remembered as one. Not just in this thread, everywhere. You will now lose your NEM puppets too.
You deserve it.
This is why people are so worried about being accused as being puppet masters, it is not a good look!
So people have to flip a coin who is creating Node account from work and who is going to Starbucks because he need another IP? And what if someone has been created his account from the same coffee shop? Remove everybody, what the hell.
You really think that is same coffeehouse two unrelated accounts signed up multiple times (they have log of IPs, not just account creation time) in a list with only 1400 members for an obscure coin?
Pardon me I laugh
How about co-workers sitting in the same building under the same provider? Family members? Friends?
Well, in this case, can I sign up all my coworkers and family members? There will be 20 total!
Thanks for your time.
You cannot but they can if they want.
How about co-workers sitting in the same building under the same provider? Family members? Friends?
Well, in this case, can I sign up all my coworkers and family members? There will be 20 total!
Thanks for your time.
So people have to flip a coin who is creating Node account from work and who is going to Starbucks because he need another IP? And what if someone has been created his account from the same coffee shop? Remove everybody, what the hell.
How about co-workers sitting in the same building under the same provider? Family members? Friends?
Well, in this case, can I sign up all my coworkers and family members? There will be 20 total!
Thanks for your time.
Ok, fine, I volunteered to be on the panel
Puppet on the panel. That's funny indeed.I am not a "puppet". I never disputed that I signed up from other accountants, and asked the developer to just keep this one. I never started a drama about "50% false positive" or my entirety family is lined up to signed up.
Seriously, if sock puppets are allowed I want mine back. I even paid BTC, I think (that I never asked to be refunded) even though my this account was listed as free for ages (since January)
How about co-workers sitting in the same building under the same provider? Family members? Friends?
Well, in this case, can I sign up all my coworkers and family members? There will be 20 total!
Thanks for your time.
The problem is the whole thing is going wrong. Devs should have been do their homework and contact possible puppets. Instead they just labeled a bunch of people as puppets. I bet at least 50% is false.
You should not be on the panel if you start with a premise that 50% are false. You are impartial judge who with preconceived ideas. If the IPs mach and are from same ISP (not proxy or tor), close date/time, the probability is close to zero that these are fake flags.
Right. Let's form the committee from people who are blindly agree with every devs' decision. That the way to go )
The question isn't about blindly in agreement with dev, the questing is about looking at evidence with open mind without pre announcing that 50% are false (which for what I have seen of evidence, is impossible)
well lets just pray that you are not on that panel, you are very very close minded person. And very biased. I don't understand how you cannot see what you are saying is so entirely false, and you present it a FACT. When it is not.
Ok, fine, I volunteered to be on the panel, but I will remove myself from that list
I don't want dzarmush to be on it either, as he has shown himself to be fucking idiot, and asshole. How about patmast3r?
maybe the best way is that devs pm every puppet (posible) and then decide ASAP, so that we can go forward.
Many important things we have ahead so please dont argue.
And by the way Eadeqa, stop kissing devs arses after you've been caught with puppet. Be a man.
I am not kissing ass. I am protecting my interest. If other sock puppets are allowed, I want mine back too. It's self interest.
And stop being an asshole, moron .. this is not the first time you insulted me.
The cryptonite guy isn't even asking for his accused puppets. He is asking for the "link" to be removed.
Ok, fine, I volunteered to be on the panel
Puppet on the panel. That's funny indeed.
Calm down guys.
Proposal:
Wait after dev + team are done with removal.
After that, we need a new thread and every "puppet" can produce an argument why he´s not.
Maybe Patmast3r can help?
Proposal:
Wait after dev + team are done with removal.
After that, we need a new thread and every "puppet" can produce an argument why he´s not.
Maybe Patmast3r can help?
The thing is I suspect they used the same logic as you "IP and login date/time is pretty solid" while the only solid evidence is several payments from the same wallet. Everything else is guessing.
It's absolutely not a guess. It's simple the question of probability. What's the probability two unrelated people from Wichita Kansas using Comcast Cable and using exact same IP signed up for an obscure coin with less than 2000 members around same time?
I would say the probability is less than wining a million dollars in in lottery!
By the way, probability is a valid argument in the court (even in death penalty). For example it's perfectly possible that someone else committed a murder but his DNA matches the accused one 100%, but what are the chances? Yes, close to zero.
How about co-workers sitting in the same building under the same provider? Family members? Friends?
The problem is the whole thing is going wrong. Devs should have been do their homework and contact possible puppets. Instead they just labeled a bunch of people as puppets. I bet at least 50% is false.
You should not be on the panel if you start with a premise that 50% are false. You are impartial judge who with preconceived ideas. If the IPs mach and are from same ISP (not proxy or tor), close date/time, the probability is close to zero that these are fake flags.
Right. Let's form the committee from people who are blindly agree with every devs' decision. That the way to go )
The question isn't about blindly in agreement with dev, the questing is about looking at evidence with open mind without pre announcing that 50% are false (which for what I have seen of evidence, is impossible)
well lets just pray that you are not on that panel, you are very very close minded person. And very biased. I don't understand how you cannot see what you are saying is so entirely false, and you present it a FACT. When it is not.
Ok, fine, I volunteered to be on the panel, but I will remove myself from that list
I don't want dzarmush to be on it either, as he has shown himself to be fucking idiot, and asshole. How about patmast3r?
The problem is the whole thing is going wrong. Devs should have been do their homework and contact possible puppets. Instead they just labeled a bunch of people as puppets. I bet at least 50% is false.
You should not be on the panel if you start with a premise that 50% are false. You are impartial judge who with preconceived ideas. If the IPs mach and are from same ISP (not proxy or tor), close date/time, the probability is close to zero that these are fake flags.
Right. Let's form the committee from people who are blindly agree with every devs' decision. That the way to go )
The question isn't about blindly in agreement with dev, the questing is about looking at evidence with open mind without pre announcing that 50% are false (which for what I have seen of evidence, is impossible)
Well lets just pray that you are not on that panel, you are very very close minded person. And very biased. I don't understand how you cannot see what you are saying is so entirely false, and you present it as a FACT. When it is not.
And koop I respect what you have accomplished in moving this coin forward, but you DID accuse me in public. Thats the problem here. No disrespect to you. You have done many things right, and this is why I support NODE. But you dropped the ball on this one big time IMHO
But you did take me back off and only put me a T now so thank you
And by the way Eadeqa, stop kissing devs arses after you've been caught with puppet. Be a man.
I am not kissing ass. I am protecting my interest. If other sock puppets are allowed, I want mine back too. It's self interest.
And stop being an asshole, moron .. this is not the first time you insulted me.
The thing is I suspect they used the same logic as you "IP and login date/time is pretty solid" while the only solid evidence is several payments from the same wallet. Everything else is guessing.
It's absolutely not a guess. It's simple the question of probability. What's the probability two unrelated people from Wichita Kansas using Comcast Cable and using exact same IP signed up for an obscure coin with less than 2000 members around same time?
I would say the probability is less than wining a million dollars in in lottery!
By the way, probability is a valid argument in the court (even in death penalty). For example it's perfectly possible that someone else committed a murder but his DNA matches the accused one 100%, but what are the chances? Yes, close to zero.
And by the way Eadeqa, stop kissing devs arses after you've been caught with puppet. Be a man.
Hi, my account is labeled like puppet P66.
Me, and my wife are stakeholders (labeled as P66)
I paid stake from my btc addres, and i send money to her btc addres so that she can join to the project.
Same thing i did on NEM (first i ask UF).
((if i was a puppet i would send money from my btc address to some exchange and then send money to new btc address))
I'm active on this forum and also this thread, and she is active to.
I belive in this coin and i'm not a puppet.
please consider this.
Regards, Mladen
Me, and my wife are stakeholders (labeled as P66)
I paid stake from my btc addres, and i send money to her btc addres so that she can join to the project.
Same thing i did on NEM (first i ask UF).
((if i was a puppet i would send money from my btc address to some exchange and then send money to new btc address))
I'm active on this forum and also this thread, and she is active to.
I belive in this coin and i'm not a puppet.
please consider this.
Regards, Mladen
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