Topic: Closed TNTMining.com *Special Offer* 10% Bonus+5 BTC OFFER (Read 4697 times)

Sorry everyone,  I forgot to mark this thread closed. 

I'm not sure why mustang has not addresses this but tntmining is closed for all intensive purposes if you want to mine on the pool that's up to you but unless it solves a block you wont get paid , as you can see from the front page of tntmining.com it's still set to pplns.

Tntmining was basically an experiment for him and if you wasted shares there I feel for ya man , no one wasted more shares than I did, I told mustang to lock this thread change the topic and close it down several days ago but for whatever reason he has not gotten around to it yet.

There are nothing guaranteed with tntmining and I think you should not mine there even if it still appears to be open , it is a ship with no captain, so beware or you could be the one to go down with the ship

Are There thoughts to be had on that ? If you can do it, go for it.

How do we access pool stats ? Just mined  19000 share are they lost ?

What are your thoughts on a merged PPS Pool.

If you want to grow, try a score based prop pool or prop with delayed stats.  People like to gamble with a good string of luck and a rising BTC price.  Merged mining adds some extra value too.

There has been a big move to mine non-prop pools, which is understandable.  But, Scored and MM Prop pools have done well IMHO (heavy on the subjective side)

thanks for your input. It's very helpful.

You two shot yourselves with switching to PPLNS unannounced...  Lost credibility and added another loner PPLNS pool to the market.  If you want to be successful, try and do some market research before launching a pool. 

the owner of the pool got discouraged and scrapped the project

Website look dead, pool still work, where is this going ?

write what?

Still a chance to grab that 5btc bonus + 10% more bitcoins.  We are still working on getting that first block.

I will guarantee the current terms.  I had started the pool with a proportional pay system thinking I could get some quick speed and realized that It wasn't the best solution for a long term pool.  I'm not here to try and get over on anyone.  The only reason I did the change so quick is because it was only the 2nd day of running and it was probably the best time to change it(didn't affect to many people, me cablepair, and one other person).   I did offer to pay anyone with the old rate if a block was found sooner.  In the future if there is a significant change I will give enought notice to everyone.   Hopefully that will ease your mind. 

Not your "bro".

I obviously understand what PPLNS is, or else I wouldn't be asking what N is...and then calling out your obvious faults.  If the concept of you providing clarification for EVERYONE here is so hard, maybe mu50stang picked the wrong "server guy".  I really don't care if I'm mining in your pool or not, I'm just a miner wanting clarification...like everyone else.

Can you not deliver to the questions that are being asked, correctly and accurately ?

lol

bro are you serious you don't understand what PPLNS is? wow you f'n trolls have nothing better to do than to f'n nit pick this and that

LISTEN

PPLNS IS WELL F'N DOCUMENTED - IF YOU CANT UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT PACKAGE UP ALL YOUR GPU's and mail them to F'n NIGERIA

i really dont have the time to explain simple concepts to simpletons

take your own damn advice and mine somewhere else and please stop wasting our time, if you thought we were going to kiss your ass to mine here you were sorely f'n mistakin - this man is paying a 10% BONUS to miners and for that - IMO he has the right not to take any f'n bullsh1t from f'n trolls

now move on b1tch

[im going back to my beer - leave me alone]

[cablepair does not speak for the management of TNTMining.com - he is just a out sourced subcontractor and his opinions do not necessarily reflect the opinions of TNTMining.com and its administration]

I think you need to re-think that...as N != 2

So that makes two people, who both "run" the pool, who can't give a simple answer, correctly.  WHAT IS N ?

Is it 1/2 difficulty or 2 ?

I'm so fkn lost at this point..I think I will go mine at another pool, one that has competency

Order of operations.... valid shares / difficulty / 2  is not the same as {your last valid shares during n shares}/({difficulty}/2)

Let me elaborate , first off I was mistaken when I said Eligius uses PPLNS, they are using SMPPS now - PPLNS is their old payout system

Also I am not sure what

is supposed to mean but Luke-Jr - the owner of Eligus is one of the Bitcoin core developers and also a very intelligent and skilled coder so I am not sure what you were trying to insinuate by that.

But let's put that aside because it really has nothing to do with TNTMining.com

Mustang tried to answer your question by telling you

If you can't figure that out I apologize Payout is: {your last valid shares during n shares}/({difficulty}/2) * {the number of bonus coins awarded}
I am not trying to insult you or anyone else - but this is Mustang's pool he is not forcing you to mine at his pool, if you don't like his pool you are free to go anywhere you want, I have not seen you submit even one share but you already act like he owes you something. I am sorry sir but he owes you nothing - if his lack of experience - or his payout system makes you feel uncomfortable please go somewhere else - his purpose is not to give you a right to bitch its to give you a start-up pool choice that is both profitable and fair and if you make the decision to mine there and are disappointed it's no ones fault but your own - because you made the decision to mine there.

If this post seems aggressive I am sorry I have no bad feelings towards anyone here but please Mustang is going out on a limb and trying to offer something new to the mining community, give him positive constructive criticism and don't try tear him down, he has no bad intentions - I assure you.

good luck and happy mining!

Oh boy...I hope you didn't set him up with the intentions of an "Eligius"-like pool.

"[353 GH] Eligius pool: ~0Fee SMPPS, no reg, RollNtime, hop OK, BTC+NMC merged!"

Also, you still haven't answered what N is defined as for PPLNS...it's assumed as 1/2 difficulty, but our wonderful pool operator doesn't even know the inner workings of his own pool

Thanks for the info Cablepair! So, uh, what is N in this pool's PPLNS?

Also, Eligius doesn't use PPLNS; they use SMPPS.

I am not sure why everyone is so apprehensive about this pool. Its really quite simple.

Mustang wanted his own pool - so this is what I setup for him:

We have a super fast dedicated server running debian 6 on quad core xeon cpus
and an extremely fast uplink

The pool it self is running PoolServerJ 0.4 RC7 - using the revolutionary - and incredibly fast java work-maker engine
for the front end I ported the latest version of Simplecoin (which is designed for pushpool) to work with poolserverj
the Bitcoin daemon on the pool is the latest 0.5.1

As far as payout we are using PPLNS which is by far the fairest and most cheat proof payout system out there. It is what is being used at Eligius and many other pools these days, we considered going proportional just to get some sweet pool hopper action - but the truth of the matter is proportional is broken and outdated and PPLNS is one of the best payout schemes available.

There is no fee at this pool at all, mustang wants to see his pool succeed and because of that he is willing to pay an extra 10% out of his pocket and frankly I would be surprised if you could find a better deal out there.

Mustang is the pool admin - I am just a lowly technician but he is dedicated to making this thing work and I am on retainer to help with the technical details if there is any problem at all - rest assured I am available around the clock to fix any problem that may arise .

Thank you for your interest in TNTMining.com and if you have any specific technical questions feel free to email me at [email protected]

thank you and happy mining!

It would be helpful if you could get CablePair in this thread to answer some questions about the pool.

I would also love it if you guaranteed the current terms and established a guaranteed period of time between announcing significant changes to the pool and going live with them.

Offering a 5 BTC BONUS TO WHOMEVER FINDS OUR FIRST BLOCK.  INCLUDING THE 10% TO ANYONE WHO MINES ON OUR POOL.

The guys who set it up for me is CablePair.  He is on these forums alot and seems like a trustworthy guy.  He sure knows what he is doing.  So please come and join the pool. 

I understand your concern but i do have someone who set it up for me who knows what they are doing. 

Lord... and what happens when there's a problem with the pool?  Open source is great, but it doesn't mean everyone should use the code.  If you don't understand the code, you should not be running a pool.  There are going to be problems, and when it comes to peoples money, you do NOT want to be clueless when it comes time to fix things and fix them quickly.

We won't be disappointed, until we ask you how your pool works...in which you can give no explanation.

My stale right is real low,  come check it out.  You wont be dissapointed. 

LOL

That's promising.

I guess I dont but come mine anyways and make some bitcoins. 

Heh, do you not know the specifics of your own pool? Or do you not understand what PPLNS is? :P
That equation (I think) implies a value for n equal to half of the current difficulty, so 555899 right now.
What is n for your pool?

Payout is: {your last valid shares during n shares}/({difficulty}/2) * {the number of bonus coins awarded}

Now YOU need to read it again AND Cory's question.  Then provide everyone with an answer.

http://eligius.st/wiki/index.php/Pay_Per_Last_N_Shares: "It also decides on a number N, the 'look back constant'."

Cory please read this link it will explain how the pay system works.

http://eligius.st/wiki/index.php/Pay_Per_Last_N_Shares

That's ok...thanks for the offer, though!

Sorry marty ill compensate you according to proportional if the block is solved sooner. 

Good luck, Bro!

That's good to hear. How many shares is N in your PPLNS payment plan?

Its really just me and a friend mining on there.  So its not an issue. 

Heh, I hope every participant agreed on the change from proportional to PPLNS.

What is N?

I wasnt getting anyone to join with proportional and figured it would make more sense to change to pplns. 

LOL there goes your "we welcome pool hoppers"

Also, how nice of you to do it in the middle of a round and without notice ROFL...knew you were going to pull something shady

Just updated the pool to a PPLNS Payment system. 

Thanks,  I'm hoping we hit a block soon. 

Nice pool!  I have yet to get a stale...
 

Had to move pool to faster server.  Its up and running again. 

Updated Special offer on pool.

Would there be more interest in this pool if it was a pay per share pool. 

Item is corrected.  Thanks for letting me know. 

"Welcome to Simplecoin.us! Please login or join us to get detailed stats and graphs relating to your hashing!"

Make if you're going to use a pre-made site, you actually change everything you need to...

We are a brand new pool so help get us started out.  

*I am offering a 10% btc bonus to who ever jumps on my pool until 01/01/12.  Also a 5 btc bonus to who ever finds the first block.  Thanks.. *


This pool uses a 0% Fee PPLNS pool.
While the pool has 0% fees we do encourage some donations to help keep the pool up and running.  A 0.5% donation would be greatly appreciated. You are free to change this to any value (including 0%) in the account details.  My favorite miners give 1.5% or more.


This pool is hosted at http://www.tntmining.com/.  

Connect at tntmining.com port 8999.

We don't keep anything.  That's why donations will help keep the pool running.  
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If there are any features that you would like to suggest please email me at [email protected].  Thanks and happy mining.