Co-owner of shuttered Polish crypto exchange Bitmarket found >> dead

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Quote from: TimeBits on August 02, 2019, 08:28:50 PM

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When reasoning and talking, you have to be very smart. What the hell has satoshi gotten to do with a crime of a state? The fact that he is the co-owner of crypto exchange does not mean that he was murdered because of cryptocurrency; do you know how many shady things that people do out there under the disguise of some certain things? Do you know if he has offended one of his temperamental friends or has defrauded someone that felt he should get off life?

I am not saying that the killing was justified for any reason, but I may not be attached to crypto itself and if it is, then what you would have satoshi done. He would have stopped the bullet from entering, or you blockchain to stop the killing like someone said which I laughed at. Man, you have got to think your statement well.

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Very dramatically, I have no right to conclude and accuse what happened behind the scenes but I read his last message that he was one of the victims, full of mystery. Hopefully, the police immediately thoroughly investigate the incident

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Its sad to hear but whats it about crypto? Anyone can be killed no matter what their job is.if its about the exchange he owned then its about crypto.

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Quote from: dothebeats on August 02, 2019, 02:23:35 PM

A bullet straight to the head already indicates that the dude knows something and won't budge into whoever ordered the hit/took the shot. This might be a feud between the management and/or someone who lost tons of money on the said exchange, or could have been severe depression leading to Niemiro's suicide. I doubt the suicide part upon seeing the circumstances that lead to Bitmarket shutting their doors down to the public, but then again no exact reason has been found out up to this day as to why the guy was dead.

Sources:

https://ro.com.pl/nie-zyje-olsztynski-biznesmen-tobiasz-niemiro-jego-cialo-znaleziono-na-osiedlu-redykajny/01462270
https://cointelegraph.com/news/co-owner-of-now-defunct-crypto-exchange-bitmarket-found-dead

I believe when it's suicide shot it's usually clear because the self-inflicted wounds are somehow different. Seems to be a business-related murder. Maybe he misbehaved with some partner or maybe someone was jealous of his success. I guess the misbehavior version is more likely since the exchange simply closed a couple of weeks before the murder. So someone probably lost too much money there and figured the owner deserved to die for robbing people. I wonder if there was going to be an investigation and accusations of robbery had the owner not been found dead... Closing an exchange just like that should not have been left without fast reaction.

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Quote from: squatter on August 03, 2019, 01:06:55 AM

Quote from: TimeBits on August 02, 2019, 08:28:50 PM

I hope your proud of your creation satoshi, This is not the first or last death, it will only escalate, escalate it will.

This blood is on your hands. You have the power to change it, but you remain a idle idol, I wish I had your influence, I would actually use it.

That's a bit dramatic. Roll Eyes

What would you have him do, anyway? Somehow fork Bitcoin to make people not treat it like money? If this was a murder -- it may have been a suicide -- that's the fault of human nature and greed, not Satoshi.

It's more like rambling of a lunatic than being dramatic. Every valuable thing can become the target of envy and lead to deaths. Would you blame the jeweler for the death of someone wearing his jewels? Every creator would love to see his creations valued by people and if this leads to them fighting for it it's their fault, not the creator's and not the creation's.
The police thinks it was a suicide but there's very little detail shared with the public. They are most likely keeping it all a secret to have an edge when it's time to interrogate someone. Suspect tend to say too much if you manage to keep them talking long enough. Suicide or not it's a shame that they can't access the coins and people got scammed again. This is very similar to Quadriga: money is gone, owner dies.

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Quote from: TimeBits on August 02, 2019, 08:28:50 PM

I hope your proud of your creation satoshi, This is not the first or last death, it will only escalate, escalate it will.

This blood is on your hands. You have the power to change it, but you remain a idle idol, I wish I had your influence, I would actually use it.

That's a bit dramatic. Roll Eyes

What would you have him do, anyway? Somehow fork Bitcoin to make people not treat it like money? If this was a murder -- it may have been a suicide -- that's the fault of human nature and greed, not Satoshi.

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I hope your proud of your creation satoshi, This is not the first or last death, it will only escalate, escalate it will.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7TLFyK_3Pk

This blood is on your hands. You have the power to change it, but you remain a idle idol, I wish I had your influence, I would actually use it.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=bitcoin+robbery just read some of the headlines my friend.

Brothers tied up, sprayed with bleach during bitcoin tech robbery
Bitcoin trader brutally tortured with drill in cryptocurrency robbery
Britain's first Bitcoin heist as trader forced at gunpoint to transfer cyber
Man mugged in Taiwan's first bitcoin robbery | South China Morning Post
Bitcoin Exchange Hit By Armed Robbers in Thwarted Theft

It will get worse and worse and worse, as the supply gets less and less and less. Hal`s kids will be targeted because of you.

Slow death

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Quote from: serveritaly on August 01, 2019, 01:16:46 PM

The body of Tobiasz Niemiro was discovered yesterday with a bullet shot to the head.

This is a case that only police can strive to resolve what has happened. Making assumptions about what had happened to cause him to die will not bring good results and will only hinder investigations.

Quote from: joe50 on August 02, 2019, 04:39:35 PM

two things involved... either suicide or disagreement

like i said, making assumptions won't do anything good, we need to wait for the police to do their job and let us know what happened

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two things involved... either suicide or disagreement

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This isn't an attack on crypto but a proof if the general security state of the world. We could use blockchain to fight it off

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Quote from: CROG on August 02, 2019, 03:30:14 PM

Could be a "Stitches for Snitches" Move, the Problem in in every subject that involves a high amount of money. A bullet to the Head is a Message to Crypto.

He's not the first one to die for bitcoins.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6215123/bitcoin-millionaire-pavel-makushin-russia-st-petersburg/

Quote from: felicita on August 02, 2019, 02:59:52 PM

the polish exchange ....yes very sad i also read this news some days ago.
But its now known if the shot his self or it was a mord.

regards

The authorities said that it's most likely a suicide but if the killer was smart he didn't leave any traces. When the police finds no signs of a struggle and the murder weapon in the victim's hand they usually call it a suicide and close the case.

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Quote from: pixie85 on August 01, 2019, 05:02:20 PM

Quote from: BQ on August 01, 2019, 03:53:11 PM

Source article?

Shady things happen everywhere, not just crypto. Hopefully this guy didn't own the keys to the cold storage like that other guy.

Ever tried to google stuff? Try it out it will change your life.

Here it is for all you lazy folks
https://ihodl.com/topnews/2019-07-28/co-owner-hacked-polish-crypto-exchange-found-dead/

He had to know something and died for it. I don't believe in coincidences.

Could be a "Stitches for Snitches" Move, the Problem in in every subject that involves a high amount of money. A bullet to the Head is a Message to Crypto.

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My gut reaction was to assume this was a disgruntled customer with huge losses or some kind of mob hit. Being the known owner of an exchange obviously isn't smart from a security perspective.

Quote from: dothebeats on August 02, 2019, 02:23:35 PM

This might be a feud between the management and/or someone who lost tons of money on the said exchange, or could have been severe depression leading to Niemiro's suicide.

It sounds like Bitmarket was an insolvent exchange from the start, much like Mt. Gox. They may have been running a bitcoin deficit for years until they finally imploded. In this context, the suicide scenario doesn't seem impossible. From what I can glean from Polish speakers, it's being investigated as a suicide.

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Quote from: serveritaly on August 01, 2019, 01:16:46 PM

The body of Tobiasz Niemiro was discovered yesterday with a bullet shot to the head.

the polish exchange ....yes very sad i also read this news some days ago.
But its now known if the shot his self or it was a mord.

regards

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A bullet straight to the head already indicates that the dude knows something and won't budge into whoever ordered the hit/took the shot. This might be a feud between the management and/or someone who lost tons of money on the said exchange, or could have been severe depression leading to Niemiro's suicide. I doubt the suicide part upon seeing the circumstances that lead to Bitmarket shutting their doors down to the public, but then again no exact reason has been found out up to this day as to why the guy was dead.

Sources:

https://ro.com.pl/nie-zyje-olsztynski-biznesmen-tobiasz-niemiro-jego-cialo-znaleziono-na-osiedlu-redykajny/01462270
https://cointelegraph.com/news/co-owner-of-now-defunct-crypto-exchange-bitmarket-found-dead

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And Warsaw was just looking so attractive to all those companies and startups trying to get expats to come join them (the setups and compensation plans look really good, by the way, so tempting to relocate except maybe for Polish food? Don't mean no offence, Asian here haha).

But well, if people didn't learn yet from Quadriga that private keys in the hands of CEOs/Founders is a bad thing...

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Quote from: pixie85 on August 01, 2019, 05:02:20 PM

Quote from: BQ on August 01, 2019, 03:53:11 PM

Source article?

Shady things happen everywhere, not just crypto. Hopefully this guy didn't own the keys to the cold storage like that other guy.

Ever tried to google stuff? Try it out it will change your life.

Here it is for all you lazy folks
https://ihodl.com/topnews/2019-07-28/co-owner-hacked-polish-crypto-exchange-found-dead/

He had to know something and died for it. I don't believe in coincidences.

If the one entity, OP, whatever, does something - like providing the article - then he'll save every other user from looking it up, right.
So it makes sense if one guy does it so noone else has to.
And it's his thread.

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Quote from: BQ on August 01, 2019, 03:53:11 PM

Source article?

Shady things happen everywhere, not just crypto. Hopefully this guy didn't own the keys to the cold storage like that other guy.

Ever tried to google stuff? Try it out it will change your life.

Here it is for all you lazy folks
https://ihodl.com/topnews/2019-07-28/co-owner-hacked-polish-crypto-exchange-found-dead/

He had to know something and died for it. I don't believe in coincidences.

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Source article?

Shady things happen everywhere, not just crypto. Hopefully this guy didn't own the keys to the cold storage like that other guy.

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The body of Tobiasz Niemiro was discovered yesterday with a bullet shot to the head.

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