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Topic: Coincidence that Sun and Moon seem same size or God's work? (Read 3765 times)

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You do not understand evolution at all... I will explain

Evolution starts with small, random changes...

If the change is beneficial, the person will live longer, and have more sex, more children, spreading their genes
If the change is not beneficial... the person will die sooner, and not have many children




Great explanation... assuming it's true, can you please tell me who is in charge of these small random changes?

Please do not mention chance because I've never seen a piece of iron evolve into a pin ALL BY ITSELF!

God is decentralized. 
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You do not understand evolution at all... I will explain

Evolution starts with small, random changes...

If the change is beneficial, the person will live longer, and have more sex, more children, spreading their genes
If the change is not beneficial... the person will die sooner, and not have many children

Great explanation... assuming it's true, can you please tell me who is in charge of these small random changes?

Please do not mention chance because I've never seen a piece of iron evolve into a pin ALL BY ITSELF!

It's not a who, but a what...

Random mutations are typically caused by radiation... ionizing radiation, cosmic rays, gamma rays, etc

It happens all the time... one of the more common (unwanted) results is cancer... cancer is a mutation of the gene which regulates cell death

Cancer is the only result of mutation.
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Number 1 is wrong. We have found loads of them
We have pretty much the complete fossil record of the whale among others
2 see number 1
3 see number 1
4 see number 1

Don't think I will bother to read the rest

Who is "we"? do you have some examples of "loads of them" (not quite millions but...)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CW2jD3CcYU

I already mentioned the whale. There is fossils from when it was a doglike creature up to today. if you go to British museum of natural history you can see many of them, but if you mean a creature that is half dog half cat or a crocoduck, we don't have them. The reason is that they never existed.
Edit as for the video. I don't give a wet fart. If they got the proof. submit a scientific paper that proves it. if its gets thru reviews, I'll look at it.
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You do not understand evolution at all... I will explain

Evolution starts with small, random changes...

If the change is beneficial, the person will live longer, and have more sex, more children, spreading their genes
If the change is not beneficial... the person will die sooner, and not have many children

Great explanation... assuming it's true, can you please tell me who is in charge of these small random changes?

Please do not mention chance because I've never seen a piece of iron evolve into a pin ALL BY ITSELF!

It's not a who, but a what...

Random mutations are typically caused by radiation... ionizing radiation, cosmic rays, gamma rays, etc

It happens all the time... one of the more common (unwanted) results is cancer... cancer is a mutation of the gene which regulates cell death
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You do not understand evolution at all... I will explain

Evolution starts with small, random changes...

If the change is beneficial, the person will live longer, and have more sex, more children, spreading their genes
If the change is not beneficial... the person will die sooner, and not have many children




Great explanation... assuming it's true, can you please tell me who is in charge of these small random changes?

Please do not mention chance because I've never seen a piece of iron evolve into a pin ALL BY ITSELF!
And, by the way, even if we don't think about The One in charge of changes, there are other problems with evolution theory. I've watched a nice documentary on that. There they explained that such a complicated thing as a flagellum could not have developed slowly, because its parts were useless for organism and should have disappeared. That is why, it must've developed all at once, which doesn't seem very convincing.
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It's the way its formed which made the right conditions for us to live on earth.

God has nothing to do with it since i simply don't believe in him.
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Number 1 is wrong. We have found loads of them
We have pretty much the complete fossil record of the whale among others
2 see number 1
3 see number 1
4 see number 1

Don't think I will bother to read the rest

Who is "we"? do you have some examples of "loads of them" (not quite millions but...)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CW2jD3CcYU
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You do not understand evolution at all... I will explain

Evolution starts with small, random changes...

If the change is beneficial, the person will live longer, and have more sex, more children, spreading their genes
If the change is not beneficial... the person will die sooner, and not have many children




Great explanation... assuming it's true, can you please tell me who is in charge of these small random changes?

Please do not mention chance because I've never seen a piece of iron evolve into a pin ALL BY ITSELF!
hero member
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Number 1 is wrong. We have found loads of them
We have pretty much the complete fossil record of the whale among others
2 see number 1
3 see number 1
4 see number 1

Don't think I will bother to read the rest
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44 reasons Evolution  is a fairy tale  Angry (just like the bible)

(don't worry about #29 Dinosaurs are a hoax)

http://thetruthwins.com/archives/44-reasons-why-evolution-is-just-a-fairy-tale-for-adults
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For what it's worth... we have only investigated roughly 0.00000000000000000000001% of the universe...  we have no clue how common or uncommon this is

Also... god does not exist... so no, its definitely not "because god"

Just stop already... fucking stop trying to blame god for everything in the universe... THERE IS NO GOD

I wonder how you will feel when you grow very old, die and find out that there is a God after all... He just can't be seen with the physical eyes.

By the way, I want to ask you a question, did your computer exist by accident?

Because you evolutionist claim that the universe, which is the most complicated thing in existence happened by accident!
How many times did your chocolate waffles happen by accident?

Waiting for your answer...

You do not understand evolution at all... I will explain

Evolution starts with small, random changes...

If the change is beneficial, the person will live longer, and have more sex, more children, spreading their genes
If the change is not beneficial... the person will die sooner, and not have many children

Over the course of millions of generations, these small changes add up into large changes... while survival of the fittest makes sure that only the best genes survive


It really is not far off from your computer analogy... computers have evolved too... I have a stick of RAM that used to hold 1MB... nowadays the same size and shaped stick can hold a million times as much information...

My first computer did not have a sound card... the sound card is equivalent to an animal evolving a new organ, like a liver or gall bladder

A big difference is that computers don't have sex to reproduce... kinda rules out the process of evolution through random mutations, survival of the fittest, and gene pools... humans decide which changes are beneficial and implement them... this is artificial selection (similar to how we breed dogs)

If there is a beneficial mutation in a person, the immune system T-cells will gather around it and destroy it, because it is different... same as they would a detrimental mutation.

The odds that any beneficial mutation could exist against the immune system are so high as to be absolutely impossible.

Nobody has found a natural beneficial mutation in a living being that is absolutely not attributable to causes other than mutation at the same time.

Cool
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For what it's worth... we have only investigated roughly 0.00000000000000000000001% of the universe...  we have no clue how common or uncommon this is

Also... god does not exist... so no, its definitely not "because god"

Just stop already... fucking stop trying to blame god for everything in the universe... THERE IS NO GOD

I wonder how you will feel when you grow very old, die and find out that there is a God after all... He just can't be seen with the physical eyes.

By the way, I want to ask you a question, did your computer exist by accident?

Because you evolutionist claim that the universe, which is the most complicated thing in existence happened by accident!
How many times did your chocolate waffles happen by accident?

Waiting for your answer...

You do not understand evolution at all... I will explain

Evolution starts with small, random changes...

If the change is beneficial, the person will live longer, and have more sex, more children, spreading their genes
If the change is not beneficial... the person will die sooner, and not have many children

Over the course of millions of generations, these small changes add up into large changes... while survival of the fittest makes sure that only the best genes survive


It really is not far off from your computer analogy... computers have evolved too... I have a stick of RAM that used to hold 1MB... nowadays the same size and shaped stick can hold a million times as much information...

My first computer did not have a sound card... the sound card is equivalent to an animal evolving a new organ, like a liver or gall bladder

A big difference is that computers don't have sex to reproduce... kinda rules out the process of evolution through random mutations, survival of the fittest, and gene pools... humans decide which changes are beneficial and implement them... this is artificial selection (similar to how we breed dogs)
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"Catholic Church invented the Flat Earth Society."


I agree "the Earth is speeding upwards to create gravity" lol

They pay you a lot don't they  Wink

Ha Ha first time I've been called a shill, but no, actually "they" don't pay me enough thats why I have time to be here
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Solar Eclipse: Coincidence that sun and moon seem same size?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C331w687tI

The Sun is 400 times larger than the Moon, but it is also 400 times further away.  What this means is that, when viewed from the Earth, the Moon is exactly the correct size to perfectly obscure the Sun when they are aligned during a total eclipse. Don't believe me? Check Wikipedia and calculate yourself. In the known universe Earth is the only place where total eclipses occur because of this. Just a coincidence or one of God's miracles?
To one dimension of earth it may seem both sun and moon being on the same size, but it may never be the same if the following thing would take place in other universe or planets.
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"Catholic Church invented the Flat Earth Society."


I agree "the Earth is speeding upwards to create gravity" lol

They pay you a lot don't they  Wink
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"Catholic Church invented the Flat Earth Society."


I agree "the Earth is speeding upwards to create gravity" lol
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hocus pocus

Catholic Church invented the Flat Earth Society.
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"we have only investigated roughly 0.00000000000000000000001% of the universe"

Space is a hoax, "NASA" can't get through the "Van Allen belt", an impenetrable barrier (what goes up must come down)
If you think they went to the moon you must have had a hard time letting Santa go, NASA, Elon Musk are just Satan Claws for adults

Sattelites are a hoax, all worldwide communications are done through submarine cables and trianglalation of cellphone towers, GPS just needs a weaker signal to work, thats why it works with no phone signal.Try and find yourself a photo of are real sattelite in Space 100% CGI

We have been scammed all our lives by the Catholic Church that most probably wrote the bible themselves (they be smart motherf*ckers) as they where first with writing books (plus destroying them) and the printing press, they got a head start on the rest of the population, they have been corrupting history and keeping us in the dark for 700 years, they also changed the calander to hide 100's of years (the dark Ages) most probabaly to fake the fall of Rome, (which still rules today)
Jesuit preists are our masters, using the "Jews" as patsys

So no, its not a coincidence, it didn't happen by accident, no one knows, but there are plenty of people making a buck out of it however we got here

Realize the real lies with your real eyes
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Also... god does not exist...

Waiting for your answer...


God exists.
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For what it's worth... we have only investigated roughly 0.00000000000000000000001% of the universe...  we have no clue how common or uncommon this is


Also... god does not exist... so no, its definitely not "because god"

Just stop already... fucking stop trying to blame god for everything in the universe... THERE IS NO GOD
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I wonder how you will feel when you grow very old, die and find out that there is a God after all... He just can't be seen with the physical eyes.


By the way, I want to ask you a question, did your computer exist by accident?


Because you evolutionist claim that the universe, which is the most complicated thing in existence happened by accident!
How many times did your chocolate waffles happen by accident?



Waiting for your answer...
legendary
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I've just held up a pound coin, and amazingly, it's the same size as the sun.
God must have created the UK Sterling currency.

and I thought he had created Bitcoin to save the world from corrupt bankers. Smiley

It seems you didn't watch the video in the OP.

It seems you still haven't answered the fact that the moon is coming closer ev ery year to the earth. Is it normal to see "gods perfection" moving and destroying itself with time?
Let's take and accept the phenomenon as the sign of God's existance and somehow it makes clear at the given topic that God or creator of this universe is a mathematician, which is an important talk among the physicians of the world. This is one the clear picture about the god being mathematician as there are other mystery's in the world as well which I think certainly clearifies the mathematical patterns or formulas, like in the flower is based on fibinacci series and similarly there are millions of other thoughts about the given topic in the world. I'm somewhat convinced this is the creation of mathematical god or the creator.
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 the moon is coming closer ev ery year to the earth.
Oh cool so eventually we can walk across to God's lesser light. Grin Cheesy

.
Now something else, what about the numerous Lunar Waves filmed so far (year and a half old video, many more shot since)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUGxysKSGEM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcQSP9YLXi4
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It's heavier now that we have sent so much hardware up there. Smiley
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I've just held up a pound coin, and amazingly, it's the same size as the sun.
God must have created the UK Sterling currency.

and I thought he had created Bitcoin to save the world from corrupt bankers. Smiley

It seems you didn't watch the video in the OP.

It seems you still haven't answered the fact that the moon is coming closer ev ery year to the earth. Is it normal to see "gods perfection" moving and destroying itself with time?
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I've just held up a pound coin, and amazingly, it's the same size as the sun.
God must have created the UK Sterling currency.

and I thought he had created Bitcoin to save the world from corrupt bankers. Smiley

It seems you didn't watch the video in the OP.
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I've just held up a pound coin, and amazingly, it's the same size as the sun.
God must have created the UK Sterling currency.

and I thought he had created Bitcoin to save the world from corrupt bankers. Smiley
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The Moon does not reflect sunlight it has its own light that has a cooling effect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMBUJQDzMys

Hocus pocus
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It is pure coincidence.
As you may know moon is on the run. From the moment is was "created" in massive collision of some planet with Earth, moon is moving away from us. It will eventually escape in to space.
This means that for example million years ago it was closer to Earth, and perfect eclipses where impossible.
Million years in to the future, moon will be to far to make close to perfection eclipse as well.
It is coincidence that we live in times of perfect moon size to sun distance from us ratio.  
But what a beautiful coincidence it is Smiley

Universe is not millions of years old.

Universe is not millions of years old and Earth is at the center of it?
Anyway, that's nothing like a proof of whatever. That's a mere coincidence. It's like all  the dmb motherfuckers explaining that the golden ratio is proof of god work... It's not because something seems incredible that the only answer is god! There are hundreds of other reasons and coincidence is just one of them!!! ><

You want an ultimate proof it's nothing like god work? Moon is coming closer of the earth every second. Around a few centimeters every year. It means that your "god work" is moving actually...
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The Moon does not reflect sunlight it has its own light that has a cooling effect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMBUJQDzMys

The full moon also only "rises/sets" in the "hemisphere" that is winter, so is that a coincidence too?
http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/about-us/46-our-solar-system/the-moon/observing-the-moon/128-how-does-the-position-of-moonrise-and-moonset-change-intermediate
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He is not going to reveal Himself to nonbelievers.

The entire christian religion is based on forcing their imaginary god on non believers.   Roll Eyes

The Earth didn't just create itself, the entire scientific establishment is based on forcing their imaginary spinning ball on everybody. Globalism is the biggest scam of all time.

Are you working for the NWO? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHqBzcwEXRc

The New World Order is the spinning globe hoax.
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He is not going to reveal Himself to nonbelievers.

The entire christian religion is based on forcing their imaginary god on non believers.   Roll Eyes

The Earth didn't just create itself, the entire scientific establishment is based on forcing their imaginary spinning ball on everybody. Globalism is the biggest scam of all time.

Are you working for the NWO? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHqBzcwEXRc
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He is not going to reveal Himself to nonbelievers.

The entire christian religion is based on forcing their imaginary god on non believers.   Roll Eyes

The Earth didn't just create itself, the entire scientific establishment is based on forcing their imaginary spinning ball on everybody. Globalism is the biggest scam of all time.
Vod
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He is not going to reveal Himself to nonbelievers.

The entire christian religion is based on forcing their imaginary god on non believers.   Roll Eyes
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I don't think that sun and moon have the same size .because size is much bigger than the moon .the moon is just far away from the planets and nothing will be same size outside this planet .each of these have different sizes as i've read and research.

I guess what the OP is trying to say is from the perspective of Earth. Think about eclipses. There are times when they overlap each other on a perfect circle. Well given this, I think it's something about optical illusion.

Eclipses are caused by the Green Lion (a 3rd mostly invisible celestial object).

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I don't think that sun and moon have the same size .because size is much bigger than the moon .the moon is just far away from the planets and nothing will be same size outside this planet .each of these have different sizes as i've read and research.

I guess what the OP is trying to say is from the perspective of Earth. Think about eclipses. There are times when they overlap each other on a perfect circle. Well given this, I think it's something about optical illusion.
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I don't think that sun and moon have the same size .because size is much bigger than the moon .the moon is just far away from the planets and nothing will be same size outside this planet .each of these have different sizes as i've read and research.
legendary
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^ The Sun and Moon are the same size.

No, they are not.

Celestial body    Angular diameter
Sun    31′31″ – 32′33″    
Moon 29′20″ – 34′6″    
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^ The Sun and Moon are the same size.
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I'm sure that God created everything, whole universe, and also he created all laws in the universe.
It's the same when we create something, like machine, and put some program in.
This machine have limited freedom to operate according to the program.
In the same way, this event is not coincidence but result of God's creation.
Of course, we, humans, are much more than machines, and have free will also to choose our own life path.


Well I agree with you. I agree that it is not a coincidence that the sun and moon seems to be the same size. I also believe that it's a result of God's creation.
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I'm sure that God created everything, whole universe, and also he created all laws in the universe.
It's the same when we create something, like machine, and put some program in.
This machine have limited freedom to operate according to the program.
In the same way, this event is not coincidence but result of God's creation.
Of course, we, humans, are much more than machines, and have free will also to choose our own life path.

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don't blame it to god , because he is not responsible for every natural phenomenon he just made it at the beginning after he have made the time, space and matter . and it is very impossible that the Sun and The Moon will have a same size .
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Pitty Hubble (HST) does not exist, would have been nice to look at moon and sun from space. (Ups, forgot there is no Space)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ItXCzyUt-A  



Evolution: if someone thinks or feels he is part animal, let him be. I am pure Human God's creation.

It wouldn't do much good to point Hubble at the sun... any image it took would be over-saturated and out of focus

Fortunately, there is SOHO... a satellite orbiting the sun, monitoring it 24/7

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_and_Heliospheric_Observatory
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Pitty Hubble (HST) does not exist, would have been nice to look at moon and sun from space. (Ups, forgot there is no Space)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ItXCzyUt-A  



Evolution: if someone thinks or feels he is part animal, let him be. I am pure Human God's creation.
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looks like wikipedia is the new bible of "scientism" lol

"Faith" a belief that is not based on proof

http://flatearthfiles.com/index.php/file/5-100-proofs-earth-is-not-a-globe-william-carpenter

Where do you people come from?

1) What does your link have to do with wikipedia?

B) What is "scientism"?

Wikipedia is about facts and shared knowledge... what exactly do you have against wikipedia?


Every article on wikipedia has links to sources from other websites, books, etc


Please elaborate on how any book, periodical, news paper, encyclopedia or any other source is more accurate than wikipedia

Wikipedia itself claims to be very reliable

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliability_of_Wikipedia

Feel free to read about all their scientific studies along with over 200 references
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looks like wikipedia is the new bible of "scientism" lol

"Faith" a belief that is not based on proof

http://flatearthfiles.com/index.php/file/5-100-proofs-earth-is-not-a-globe-william-carpenter
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Solar Eclipse: Coincidence that sun and moon seem same size?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C331w687tI

The Sun is 400 times larger than the Moon, but it is also 400 times further away.  What this means is that, when viewed from the Earth, the Moon is exactly the correct size to perfectly obscure the Sun when they are aligned during a total eclipse. Don't believe me? Check Wikipedia and calculate yourself. In the known universe Earth is the only place where total eclipses occur because of this. Just a coincidence or one of God's miracles?

Think of the number of constellations and stars, and the multiple planets.
Do your calculation on the probability.
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It is just coincidence.
And actually they dont really look same always.
Moon keeps changing its shape with shadows.
Also, the Sun is the same size, while the Moon as viewed from Earth, gets bigger and smaller.  Due to elliptical orbit mostly.
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It is just coincidence.
And actually they dont really look same always.
Moon keeps changing its shape with shadows.
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FYI the Moon and Sun are both about 32 miles wide at an altitude of about 3k miles.

LOL.

FYI, Mt. Everest is 5.5 miles, still standing with snow all over it.

Do you even know how ridiculous your statement is?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_altitude_record



lol, newbies this days are so ridiculous.
So the highest flight was what 60 miles or so, long way to go to sun or moon both circling about 3000 miles above our plane.

And yes it is all God's handywork, only one exception: Water, it is everywhere. Above, below and the place you life right now most likely has a humidity of 70 to 100%
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FYI the Moon and Sun are both about 32 miles wide at an altitude of about 3k miles.

LOL.

FYI, Mt. Everest is 5500 miles, still standing with snow all over it.

Do you even know how ridiculous your statement is?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_altitude_record

I'm glad you told us this.
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FYI the Moon and Sun are both about 32 miles wide at an altitude of about 3k miles.

LOL.

FYI, Mt. Everest is 5500 miles, still standing with snow all over it.

Do you even know how ridiculous your statement is?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_altitude_record


Mt. Everest is 8,850 meters above sea level, or around 5.5 miles

The ISS orbits at 250 miles (which is why it orbits every 90 mins... it's fast and close)
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FYI the Moon and Sun are both about 32 miles wide at an altitude of about 3k miles.
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As you were saying the sun is 400 times farther away , do you know how near is the moon from our planet ? . You know it is just a reflection so the sun seems like a same size as the moon it is impossible for them to be same at size they are just tricking your mind and actually god is not responsible for that he just made it as a natural phenomena so dont take it seriously . Grin
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In the known universe Earth is the only place where total eclipses occur because of this

For what it's worth... we have only investigated roughly 0.00000000000000000000001% of the universe...  we have no clue how common or uncommon this is


Also... god does not exist... so no, its definitely not "because god"

Just stop already... fucking stop trying to blame god for everything in the universe... THERE IS NO GOD

God created the universe and He is.

If he exists, ask him to post here, ask him to sign his message with my bitcoin address private keys.

If he does not post, he does not exist.  Case closed.



He is not going to reveal Himself to nonbelievers.

He's omnipresent according to your bible. So why he cant just simply show himself up on my window and make a wave for me or it might not going to happen cause it doesn't exist.
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Wow this discussing really did take an ugly turn.
I call this a magnificent system that we live in, everything is their for a reason and everything has a role to play in the grand scheme.
Now I'm not particularly religious but I do believe that the system that has been developed has been made like a perfect design.
I call it science but I'm open to the concept of God, and maybe I don't believe him as well as the believers do, but I'm not speak ill about the idea.

That's very intelligent approach.
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Everyone can write whatever they want on wikipedia. I was once hired to write for a local politicianon their page, i don't even know if it was real. but yeah whatever they wanna write there, its theirs.
So long as they don't interfere with the bitcoin going to skyrocket, I'd be just fine.

If you think that scientific wikipedia articles are false or manipulated then you can go to library or contact directly to astronomers and ask if those facts are true or false.

how can we be sure those books in the libraries and astronomers are telling the truth?
new discoveries even told us that we have to rewrite text books and history since there were actually 12 planets in the milky way not just nine.

You don't even know the difference between the milky way and the solar system.
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Given enough distance every star looks the same size, no matter if 650 times the size of the sun or 0.7 times.  Compare to standing on a tower, both the tall guy and the midget look like ants from up there.
 
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Life is too short to be anything else but peaceful contemplation.

A full moon rising from the hills of Beijing, a sun rise on the coast of Japan... Never forget everything that trump and his predecessors build will be sooner or later only dust...
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We do not know what is God's thinking when He made the earth, the moon, the stars, all of us.  We cannot fathom His way of thinking for He is Supreme.  But I believe that He made everything with purpose.  If the sun and moon seems of the same size, maybe He wants us to see and amaze with one of His majestic creation.  Cheesy
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The moon and the sun do not seem to be the same size.
The distance to the moon varies from 356,500 km to 406,700 km, so some time the moon seems bigger than the sun, sometimes smaller and some times the same size
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oh there are more and so we are even mislead by these books. this just proves everything is a mess. This is no coincidence, this is a mess, thats what it is.  Grin
history says there are 12 in the solar system. http://ancientvisitors.blogspot.com/2011/12/sumerian-12-planets.html


Our history is a total fabrication, its made up by some creative fellows who wish to control everything

LOL.  You would think people on this forum would have just a slight idea of how science works.  I guess not.

BTW, Sumerians were using clay tablets for their record keeping, so I'd not pay any attention to what they said about astronomy or science in general.
They knew diddlysquat about astronomy, physics, math or science in general.  Science was not even a word back then.


yeah science is even not a word even today.
if its the astronomy that people wants they just have to use their eyes. there;s the sun, moon, stars and earth. that's just it. nothing more.

That is it?  Nothing more??

Wow, your world is pretty simple.  Let me guess, the Earth is flat, right?  And God created everything 6000 years ago, right?

If you think science is not a word today, you definitely skipped few grades.

if that's how you would understand what i mean then thats it. i don't even think you are a kid.
but you know different people always think what they think no matter what. but i leave that to you.

What makes you think the Sumerians believed the solar system had 12 planets?

As far as I know, the Sumerian writings do not contain any mention of 12 planets... are you basing this assumption solely on this clay tablet?



How do you even know those are planets and not stars?

They certainly do not align to any planets in our solar system... they are just random dots

Their sizes and position are simply not a representation of planets in our solar system by any stretch of the imagination

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oh there are more and so we are even mislead by these books. this just proves everything is a mess. This is no coincidence, this is a mess, thats what it is.  Grin
history says there are 12 in the solar system. http://ancientvisitors.blogspot.com/2011/12/sumerian-12-planets.html


Our history is a total fabrication, its made up by some creative fellows who wish to control everything

LOL.  You would think people on this forum would have just a slight idea of how science works.  I guess not.

BTW, Sumerians were using clay tablets for their record keeping, so I'd not pay any attention to what they said about astronomy or science in general.
They knew diddlysquat about astronomy, physics, math or science in general.  Science was not even a word back then.


yeah science is even not a word even today.
if its the astronomy that people wants they just have to use their eyes. there;s the sun, moon, stars and earth. that's just it. nothing more.

That is it?  Nothing more??

Wow, your world is pretty simple.  Let me guess, the Earth is flat, right?  And God created everything 6000 years ago, right?

If you think science is not a word today, you definitely skipped few grades.

if that's how you would understand what i mean then thats it. i don't even think you are a kid.
but you know different people always think what they think no matter what. but i leave that to you.
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Wow this discussing really did take an ugly turn.
I call this a magnificent system that we live in, everything is their for a reason and everything has a role to play in the grand scheme.
Now I'm not particularly religious but I do believe that the system that has been developed has been made like a perfect design.
I call it science but I'm open to the concept of God, and maybe I don't believe him as well as the believers do, but I'm not speak ill about the idea.
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oh there are more and so we are even mislead by these books. this just proves everything is a mess. This is no coincidence, this is a mess, thats what it is.  Grin
history says there are 12 in the solar system. http://ancientvisitors.blogspot.com/2011/12/sumerian-12-planets.html


Our history is a total fabrication, its made up by some creative fellows who wish to control everything

LOL.  You would think people on this forum would have just a slight idea of how science works.  I guess not.

BTW, Sumerians were using clay tablets for their record keeping, so I'd not pay any attention to what they said about astronomy or science in general.
They knew diddlysquat about astronomy, physics, math or science in general.  Science was not even a word back then.




yeah science is even not a word even today.
if its the astronomy that people wants they just have to use their eyes. there;s the sun, moon, stars and earth. that's just it. nothing more.
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oh there are more and so we are even mislead by these books. this just proves everything is a mess. This is no coincidence, this is a mess, thats what it is.  Grin
history says there are 12 in the solar system. http://ancientvisitors.blogspot.com/2011/12/sumerian-12-planets.html


Our history is a total fabrication, its made up by some creative fellows who wish to control everything
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oh there are more and so we are even mislead by these books. this just proves everything is a mess. This is no coincidence, this is a mess, thats what it is.  Grin
history says there are 12 in the solar system. http://ancientvisitors.blogspot.com/2011/12/sumerian-12-planets.html
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Yes it was decided long ago by a bunch of Jesuit and freemason "scientists"
Sattelites don't exist
The Sun and moon are inside our atomsphere
Big bang is a hoax as is Dinosaurs, and evolution, zero proof of any if you look hard enough through the lies

Its not "funny" (or you are feeling a bit angry at the suggestion) is because you are experiencing cognitive dissonance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

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In psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental stress or discomfort experienced by an individual who holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values at the same time, performs an action that is contradictory to one or more beliefs, ideas, or values, or is confronted by new information that conflicts with existing beliefs, ideas, or values.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

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Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against their own unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others. For example, a person who is habitually rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude. It incorporates blame shifting.

According to some research, the projection of one's unconscious qualities onto others is a common process in everyday life


Also read

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory

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Yes it was decided long ago by a bunch of Jesuit and freemason "scientists"
Sattelites don't exist
The Sun and moon are inside our atomsphere
Big bang is a hoax as is Dinosaurs, and evolution, zero proof of any if you look hard enough through the lies

Its not "funny" (or you are feeling a bit angry at the suggestion) is  because you are experiencing cognitive dissonance

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how can we be sure those books in the libraries and astronomers are telling the truth?
new discoveries even told us that we have to rewrite text books and history since there were actually 12 planets in the milky way not just nine.

For the sake of correcting misinformation...

I assume by 12 planets in the milky way, you mean there are 12 planets that revolve around the sun?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet

There are currently 8 planets in orbit around the sun

Pluto, along with other Kuiper belt objects, are no longer considered planets

There are currently over 3400 known planets in the milky way

Misinformation? how many of these planets have you seen with you own eyes? you have only seen a shiny light in the sky or doctored photos from NASA, so is what you are repeating like a parrot is just "Hearsay"

I have seen 5 of them without even using a telescope...

Both Venus and Jupiter glow very brightly at dusk for many months of the year

Mars, Saturn and Mercury can also easily be seen most of the year


You are talking about bullshit that was settled so long ago its not even funny

Vesta, Juno, Ceres and Pallas have not been considered planets for 200 years... Pluto has not been a planet for 10 years... don't bullshit

There is a big difference between a planet, and any old asteroid, etc floating around in orbit... a comet is a comet not a planet... an asteroid is an asteroid, not a planet... got it?
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how can we be sure those books in the libraries and astronomers are telling the truth?
new discoveries even told us that we have to rewrite text books and history since there were actually 12 planets in the milky way not just nine.

For the sake of correcting misinformation...

I assume by 12 planets in the milky way, you mean there are 12 planets that revolve around the sun?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet

There are currently 8 planets in orbit around the sun

Pluto, along with other Kuiper belt objects, are no longer considered planets

There are currently over 3400 known planets in the milky way

Misinformation? how many of these planets have you seen with you own eyes? you have only seen a shiny light in the sky or doctored photos from NASA, so is what you are repeating like a parrot is just "Hearsay"
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how can we be sure those books in the libraries and astronomers are telling the truth?
new discoveries even told us that we have to rewrite text books and history since there were actually 12 planets in the milky way not just nine.

For the sake of correcting misinformation...

I assume by 12 planets in the milky way, you mean there are 12 planets in our solar system?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet

There are currently 8 planets in orbit around the sun

Pluto, along with other Kuiper belt objects, are no longer considered planets

There are currently over 3400 known planets in the milky way
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet#Exoplanets
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Everyone can write whatever they want on wikipedia. I was once hired to write for a local politicianon their page, i don't even know if it was real. but yeah whatever they wanna write there, its theirs.
So long as they don't interfere with the bitcoin going to skyrocket, I'd be just fine.

If you think that scientific wikipedia articles are false or manipulated then you can go to library or contact directly to astronomers and ask if those facts are true or false.

how can we be sure those books in the libraries and astronomers are telling the truth?
new discoveries even told us that we have to rewrite text books and history since there were actually 12 planets in the milky way not just nine.
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Some people believe ancient aliens placed the moon in that exact position.
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No coincidence, the earth is flat, the sun and moon revolve around a circular path around "pole"laris
North (Polaris) is center
Facing North (center)  East is to your right,West is to your left, that is how you go "around" the World, you go around the center, south is always outwards
The Sun and Moon are rotating about 1000kms/h, when you see them "rise" they are just heading towards you and entering your veiwing perpective
When the Moon and Sun are "setting" they are leaving your "perspective' or vanishing point
Light doesn't "travel" Light works like sound waves,
The whole sky works like a clock
The Sun tells you the time of day  - seconds
The Moon tells you the time of month - minutes
The Stars tell you the time of year - hours
The constellations have never changed, we are not traveling through "space" at a "million billion" miles per hour, its a lie, its flat and stationary
Realise with your realeyes

http://tracytwyman.com/r-e-m-the-fake-moon-and-the-flat-earth/
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The universe is an ad for the glory of God... In short it's a teaser... But contrary to most ads the best is to come. Keep faith, behave righteously even if it's unproductive... The great filter of life. Do you want a palace in this life (where death due to age is a given) or a house in the afterlife? What's great is that if you read this you still have the opportunity to recalibrate... But for how long? ;-)
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https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

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Occam's razor is a principle from philosophy. Suppose there exist two explanations for an occurrence. In this case the simpler one is usually better. Another way of saying it is that the more assumptions you have to make, the more unlikely an explanation is.



In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

How simple is that?
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Is it a coincidence that flesh-eating bacteria exists, or is it gods work?

Is it a coincidence that the primary cause of death is heart disease, or is that gods work?

Is it a coincidence that god hates fags, yet appears powerless to stop them?

Is it a coincidence that god puts the death penalty on 613 things, but christians only know 11 of them? (10 commandments +that verse about fags in leviticus)

Is it a coincidence that god hates disobedient children, shellfish, eating meat and dairy in the same meal, or cutting your sideburns? (death penalty for each of these)

Those rules are not the current rules, those rules were set for barbaric people on ancient times who had a cult of offering their childs alive to be burnt in a statue of a god called "moloch" and played drums to silence the screaming of the child.

Are you calling the God of the bible barbaric?


I said FOR not BY, I am calling barbaric the people whom God set those rules for.

So the rules God set for the people were not barbaric?

No, because if I see someone burning their childs to make happy a stupid god they believe, I would kill them too.

1) If you kill someone, you are violating that commandment about murder... basically the only commandment anyone cares about... what the fuck?

2) I fail to understand how you can claim that god changed his mind about slavery, homophobia, genocide, etc between the old and new testament... what is 500 years to a god?  God had a change of heart about slavery, et al, in 500 years?

No... the god of the old testament is different from the god of the new testament because they are both fiction

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

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Occam's razor is a principle from philosophy. Suppose there exist two explanations for an occurrence. In this case the simpler one is usually better. Another way of saying it is that the more assumptions you have to make, the more unlikely an explanation is.

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Solar Eclipse: Coincidence that sun and moon seem same size?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C331w687tI

The Sun is 400 times larger than the Moon, but it is also 400 times further away.  What this means is that, when viewed from the Earth, the Moon is exactly the correct size to perfectly obscure the Sun when they are aligned during a total eclipse. Don't believe me? Check Wikipedia and calculate yourself. In the known universe Earth is the only place where total eclipses occur because of this. Just a coincidence or one of God's miracles?

Are you headed toward Blood Moon prophesies with this?

I don't believe in them.
Glad to hear that.  To answer your question, there are a number of things in cosmology that we don't see clear reasons for, that some might call coincidence.  For example there's the similarity between the distances of the planets from the Sun, and the distance between the electron shells of an atom. 

In the past, things that looked odd were investigated, and in many cases this resulted in the discover of scientific principles.  However, this particular situation has to be considered as just random chance.  The reason is that the universe doesn't care what some tiny primitive human sees, whether an eclipse is partial or total.

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Is it a coincidence that flesh-eating bacteria exists, or is it gods work?

Is it a coincidence that the primary cause of death is heart disease, or is that gods work?

Is it a coincidence that god hates fags, yet appears powerless to stop them?

Is it a coincidence that god puts the death penalty on 613 things, but christians only know 11 of them? (10 commandments +that verse about fags in leviticus)

Is it a coincidence that god hates disobedient children, shellfish, eating meat and dairy in the same meal, or cutting your sideburns? (death penalty for each of these)

Those rules are not the current rules, those rules were set for barbaric people on ancient times who had a cult of offering their childs alive to be burnt in a statue of a god called "moloch" and played drums to silence the screaming of the child.

Are you calling the God of the bible barbaric?


I said FOR not BY, I am calling barbaric the people whom God set those rules for.

So the rules God set for the people were not barbaric?

No, because if I see someone burning their childs to make happy a stupid god they believe, I would kill them too.
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Is it a coincidence that flesh-eating bacteria exists, or is it gods work?

Is it a coincidence that the primary cause of death is heart disease, or is that gods work?

Is it a coincidence that god hates fags, yet appears powerless to stop them?

Is it a coincidence that god puts the death penalty on 613 things, but christians only know 11 of them? (10 commandments +that verse about fags in leviticus)

Is it a coincidence that god hates disobedient children, shellfish, eating meat and dairy in the same meal, or cutting your sideburns? (death penalty for each of these)

Those rules are not the current rules, those rules were set for barbaric people on ancient times who had a cult of offering their childs alive to be burnt in a statue of a god called "moloch" and played drums to silence the screaming of the child.

Are you calling the God of the bible barbaric?


I said FOR not BY, I am calling barbaric the people whom God set those rules for.
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Is it a coincidence that flesh-eating bacteria exists, or is it gods work?

Is it a coincidence that the primary cause of death is heart disease, or is that gods work?

Is it a coincidence that god hates fags, yet appears powerless to stop them?

Is it a coincidence that god puts the death penalty on 613 things, but christians only know 11 of them? (10 commandments +that verse about fags in leviticus)

Is it a coincidence that god hates disobedient children, shellfish, eating meat and dairy in the same meal, or cutting your sideburns? (death penalty for each of these)

Those rules are not the current rules, those rules were set for barbaric people on ancient times who had a cult of offering their childs alive to be burnt in a statue of a god called "moloch" (as your nickname) and played drums to silence the screaming of the child. Have you offered candies to these people?
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Is it a coincidence that god hates fags, yet appears powerless to stop them?



God doesn't hate fags.
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In the known universe Earth is the only place where total eclipses occur because of this

For what it's worth... we have only investigated roughly 0.00000000000000000000001% of the universe...  we have no clue how common or uncommon this is


Also... god does not exist... so no, its definitely not "because god"

Just stop already... fucking stop trying to blame god for everything in the universe... THERE IS NO GOD

God created the universe and He is.

If he exists, ask him to post here, ask him to sign his message with my bitcoin address private keys.

If he does not post, he does not exist.  Case closed.



He is not going to reveal Himself to nonbelievers.

Sure.  Still waiting....Ask him to hurry up.  I don't have all day.

Ask him to post for believers... Grin

Believers doesnt need God to write anything as you probably dont need to see with your eyes the Wind to believe it exist.
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Is it a coincidence that flesh-eating bacteria exists, or is it gods work?

Is it a coincidence that the primary cause of death is heart disease, or is that gods work?

Is it a coincidence that god hates fags, yet appears powerless to stop them?

Is it a coincidence that god puts the death penalty on 613 things, but christians only know 11 of them? (10 commandments +that verse about fags in leviticus)

Is it a coincidence that god hates disobedient children, shellfish, eating meat and dairy in the same meal, or cutting your sideburns? (death penalty for each of these)
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In the known universe Earth is the only place where total eclipses occur because of this

For what it's worth... we have only investigated roughly 0.00000000000000000000001% of the universe...  we have no clue how common or uncommon this is


Also... god does not exist... so no, its definitely not "because god"

Just stop already... fucking stop trying to blame god for everything in the universe... THERE IS NO GOD

God created the universe and He is.

If he exists, ask him to post here, ask him to sign his message with my bitcoin address private keys.

If he does not post, he does not exist.  Case closed.



He is not going to reveal Himself to nonbelievers.

He has given enough proofs to believe on him, but most of them ignored them or chose to not believe because it doesnt benefit their imposed (by society) interests.
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In the known universe Earth is the only place where total eclipses occur because of this

For what it's worth... we have only investigated roughly 0.00000000000000000000001% of the universe...  we have no clue how common or uncommon this is


Also... god does not exist... so no, its definitely not "because god"

Just stop already... fucking stop trying to blame god for everything in the universe... THERE IS NO GOD

God created the universe and He is.

If he exists, ask him to post here, ask him to sign his message with my bitcoin address private keys.

If he does not post, he does not exist.  Case closed.



He is not going to reveal Himself to nonbelievers.
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It is pure coincidence.
As you may know moon is on the run. From the moment is was "created" in massive collision of some planet with Earth, moon is moving away from us. It will eventually escape in to space.
This means that for example million years ago it was closer to Earth, and perfect eclipses where impossible.
Million years in to the future, moon will be to far to make close to perfection eclipse as well.
It is coincidence that we live in times of perfect moon size to sun distance from us ratio.  
But what a beautiful coincidence it is Smiley

Universe is not millions of years old.
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In the known universe Earth is the only place where total eclipses occur because of this

For what it's worth... we have only investigated roughly 0.00000000000000000000001% of the universe...  we have no clue how common or uncommon this is


Also... god does not exist... so no, its definitely not "because god"

Just stop already... fucking stop trying to blame god for everything in the universe... THERE IS NO GOD

God created the universe and He is.
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Bobby Fischer was right
It is pure coincidence.
As you may know moon is on the run. From the moment is was "created" in massive collision of some planet with Earth, moon is moving away from us. It will eventually escape in to space.
This means that for example million years ago it was closer to Earth, and perfect eclipses where impossible.
Million years in to the future, moon will be to far to make close to perfection eclipse as well.
It is coincidence that we live in times of perfect moon size to sun distance from us ratio.  
But what a beautiful coincidence it is Smiley
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In the known universe Earth is the only place where total eclipses occur because of this

For what it's worth... we have only investigated roughly 0.00000000000000000000001% of the universe...  we have no clue how common or uncommon this is


Also... god does not exist... so no, its definitely not "because god"

Just stop already... fucking stop trying to blame god for everything in the universe... THERE IS NO GOD
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Everyone can write whatever they want on wikipedia. I was once hired to write for a local politicianon their page, i don't even know if it was real. but yeah whatever they wanna write there, its theirs.
So long as they don't interfere with the bitcoin going to skyrocket, I'd be just fine.

If you think that scientific wikipedia articles are false or manipulated then you can go to library or contact directly to astronomers and ask if those facts are true or false.
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Everyone can write whatever they want on wikipedia. I was once hired to write for a local politicianon their page, i don't even know if it was real. but yeah whatever they wanna write there, its theirs.
So long as they don't interfere with the bitcoin going to skyrocket, I'd be just fine.
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Solar Eclipse: Coincidence that sun and moon seem same size?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C331w687tI

The Sun is 400 times larger than the Moon, but it is also 400 times further away.  What this means is that, when viewed from the Earth, the Moon is exactly the correct size to perfectly obscure the Sun when they are aligned during a total eclipse. Don't believe me? Check Wikipedia and calculate yourself. In the known universe Earth is the only place where total eclipses occur because of this. Just a coincidence or one of God's miracles?

Are you headed toward Blood Moon prophesies with this?

I don't believe in them.
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Solar Eclipse: Coincidence that sun and moon seem same size?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C331w687tI

The Sun is 400 times larger than the Moon, but it is also 400 times further away.  What this means is that, when viewed from the Earth, the Moon is exactly the correct size to perfectly obscure the Sun when they are aligned during a total eclipse. Don't believe me? Check Wikipedia and calculate yourself. In the known universe Earth is the only place where total eclipses occur because of this. Just a coincidence or one of God's miracles?

Are you headed toward Blood Moon prophesies with this?
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Solar Eclipse: Coincidence that sun and moon seem same size?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C331w687tI

The Sun is 400 times larger than the Moon, but it is also 400 times further away.  What this means is that, when viewed from the Earth, the Moon is exactly the correct size to perfectly obscure the Sun when they are aligned during a total eclipse. Don't believe me? Check Wikipedia and calculate yourself. In the known universe Earth is the only place where total eclipses occur because of this. Just a coincidence or one of God's miracles?
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