coinexchanger.com is now the 2nd exchange with the most BTC Liquidity

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Quote from: Matthew N. Wright on March 03, 2012, 05:15:45 PM

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Quote from: John (John K.) on March 03, 2012, 03:05:40 AM

I have a hunch that coinexchanger were in fact the people behind this whole hacking business.

Really, based on what? His claim that they received stolen coins, backed by absolutely zero evidence?

If it was true that he had stolen coins, they'd be selling for cheaper than MtGox. They're not! Asking price at coinexchanger ridiculously high (not even counting the withdrawal fee). Conclusion: coinexchanger = troll.

I mentioned this in another thread, but basically, the fees don't matter to someone looking for an anonymous, easy and shady place to unload for quick and easy cash.

To be honest, CoinExchanger is starting to look like the only place the hacker could go if he wanted to avoid the wrath of the community (since CoinExchanger is full on douchebag).

But the fees matter to the buyer. That's why we have reports of a couple of folks who bought possibly stolen coins from cryptoXchange - because they were the cheaper than mtgox.

Until coinExchanger can be confirmed to be selling coins below mtgox price, anyone investigating him is wasting their energy on an obvious troll who should just be ignored.

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Quote from: bitcoinBull on March 03, 2012, 04:56:12 PM

Quote from: John (John K.) on March 03, 2012, 03:05:40 AM

I have a hunch that coinexchanger were in fact the people behind this whole hacking business.

Really, based on what? His claim that they received stolen coins, backed by absolutely zero evidence?

If it was true that he had stolen coins, they'd be selling for cheaper than MtGox. They're not! Asking price at coinexchanger ridiculously high (not even counting the withdrawal fee). Conclusion: coinexchanger = troll.

I mentioned this in another thread, but basically, the fees don't matter to someone looking for an anonymous, easy and shady place to unload for quick and easy cash.

To be honest, CoinExchanger is starting to look like the only place the hacker could go if he wanted to avoid the wrath of the community (since CoinExchanger is full on douchebag).

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Quote from: John (John K.) on March 03, 2012, 03:05:40 AM

I have a hunch that coinexchanger were in fact the people behind this whole hacking business.

Really, based on what? His claim that they received stolen coins, backed by absolutely zero evidence?

If it was true that he had stolen coins, they'd be selling for cheaper than MtGox. They're not! Asking price at coinexchanger ridiculously high (not even counting the withdrawal fee). Conclusion: coinexchanger = troll.

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Away on an extended break

I have a hunch that coinexchanger were in fact the people behind this whole hacking business.

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Quote from: RaggedMonk on March 02, 2012, 07:29:38 PM

You are really claiming that you are the 2nd most liquid exchange, when your bid/ask spreads are currently $0.90? Do you know what liquidity means?

Nefario, this was directed at CoinExchanger. I have confidence that Intersango is in fact the 2nd largest exchange.

ooops, thought that was at me.

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Quote from: RaggedMonk on March 02, 2012, 07:29:38 PM

You are really claiming that you are the 2nd most liquid exchange, when your bid/ask spreads are currently $0.90? Do you know what liquidity means?

Nefario, this was directed at CoinExchanger. I have confidence that Intersango is in fact the 2nd largest exchange.

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A while back, Maria start a shit fit over some exchange not giving her/him/it whatever, their Western Union withdraw. The exchange was www.bitcoinexchange.cc. I have the former ops phone info, but due to my yelling matches with him on the same subject, I doubt he will answer my calls, maybe.

If anyone has a skype credit voucher, I can give it a shot as it was my skype number that used to call him.

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Update: Leo Camilo is a fictitious name (surprise!) and they've never heard of him there are that restaurant. So the owner of the CoinExchanger.com obviously lied about his identity and has even less reason to be trusted now.

I have a very elaborate theory that needs testing, but if it turns out true it will definitely explain some things to the community and teach them a very grand lesson in trusting strangers. Fuck it, just take the lesson now anyway.

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Add me to the boycot list.

Also. Nerfario. You should have said....

"Tonight we dine in hell! and by hell, I mean Uncle Jack's Steakhouse."

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Quote from: Nefario on March 02, 2012, 08:43:05 PM

Quote from: RaggedMonk on March 02, 2012, 07:29:38 PM

You are really claiming that you are the 2nd most liquid exchange, when your bid/ask spreads are currently $0.90? Do you know what liquidity means?

No, I'm claiming the largest exchange for both Euro & GBP, and second largest USD exchange in terms of volume.

Spreads on Intersango are actually smaller than they seem as there are plenty of trading bots that pick up new orders within their range.

He was talking about CoinTumbler. Wink

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Quote from: RaggedMonk on March 02, 2012, 07:29:38 PM

You are really claiming that you are the 2nd most liquid exchange, when your bid/ask spreads are currently $0.90? Do you know what liquidity means?

No, I'm claiming the largest exchange for both Euro & GBP, and second largest USD exchange in terms of volume.

Spreads on Intersango are actually smaller than they seem as there are plenty of trading bots that pick up new orders within their range.

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You are really claiming that you are the 2nd most liquid exchange, when your bid/ask spreads are currently $0.90? Do you know what liquidity means?

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Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on March 02, 2012, 07:17:09 PM

Im boycotting this site and I suggest everyone else does.

No one was ever going there anyway. He has no volume. He upped his fees on the fly just because he got a deposit that could help him recoup his losses. He'll be gone into the wind as soon as he unloads these stolen coins.

For all purposes sake we need to assume right now that Leo Camilo is the hacker behind the Linode theft. He is the only one who has the coins, he announced the deposits SECOND after receiving them and knew their spot value instantly, etc.

He should be treated as a criminal for his already obvious scams and illegal activity, but this one he refuses to respond on should seal the case for everyone.

Quote from: Nefario on March 02, 2012, 07:20:16 PM

I should point out that I'm the community manager for Intersango.
I am Nefario!!! SPARTAAAAAAAaaaaaaa........!!!!

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Mathew has pointed out a number of details about coinexchanger, which are great, thank you for that Mathew.

One error I would like to point out about this post is that coinexchanger is not the second largest exchange.

Actually that honor goes to Intersango, the second largest USD exchange after MtGox, largest Euro and GBP exchange.

I should point out that I'm the community manager for Intersango.
I am Nefario!!! SPARTAAAAAAAaaaaaaa........!!!!

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Wat

Im boycotting this site and I suggest everyone else does.

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Quote from: CoinExchanger on March 02, 2012, 07:02:35 PM

I am almost sure that bitcoinica.com is out of funds and they are keeping the site open to get more deposits and ponzi those deposits on those who want to withdrawal. The 17 year old just lost 250,000 Dollars and I doubt he has an extra 250K to cover his loss.

I would encourage everyone to withdrawal your funds from bitcoinica and watch the shit hit the fan.

Visit, www.coinexchanger.com

We will lower our withdrawal fee in the next couple of days, in the meantime 9% is fair.

CoinExchanger.com is an admittedly unregistered MLB (money license business) that must be registered by FinCEN within 6 months of opening their doors and sharing their first stored value. They have not done so and are in direct violation of federal law.

The owner of CoinExchanger.com is Leo Camilo, who advertises his address as 440 9th ave, New york, New York,10001 US and personal telephone number 1 (347) 469-1040.

His private email (search google) is [email protected].

He has publicly stated on multiple occasions that:

bitcoin is fake money, "monopoly money" and has no value and should not be trusted[/b] for this reason.
his exchange is functional with a large user base, when not a single user has ever reportedly done business with him
he is holding coins stolen from Zhou Tong's Bitcoinica and says "fuck you Zhou, you're just a stupid 17 year old kid, these coins are mine now" basically.

He also:

goes under the sock puppet scammer account name "Maria"
claims to be a millionaire and restaurant owner

He is currently in possession of stolen Bitcoins from the Linode hack and any coins purchased from him will not be accepted by MtGox or anyone in the Bitcoin community.

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Quote from: CoinExchanger on March 02, 2012, 07:02:35 PM

I am almost sure that bitcoinica.com is out of funds and they are keeping the site open to get more deposits and ponzi those deposits on those who want to withdrawal. The 17 year old just lost 250,000 Dollars and I doubt he has an extra 250K to cover his loss.

I would encourage everyone to withdrawal your funds from bitcoinica and watch the shit hit the fan.

Visit, www.coinexchanger.com

We will lower our withdrawal fee in the next couple of days, in the meantime 9% is fair.

Wow. I'm sort of beaming from how fucked you are, sir. You're also most definitely NOT the 2nd largest Bitcoin exchange. That distinction goes to Intersango (http://intersango.com) XD

You're a scamming fuck, Leo. You've admitted to holding and buying stolen coins (the source of your 32k+ BTC liquidity). If anyone purchases your coins, they're purchasing stolen coins. If any of your personal details that have been posted are real and correct, you're going to be getting a visit from the authorities soon.

You're quite a piece of work.

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I am almost sure that bitcoinica.com is out of funds and they are keeping the site open to get more deposits and ponzi those deposits on those who want to withdrawal. The 17 year old just lost 250,000 Dollars and I doubt he has an extra 250K to cover his loss.

I would encourage everyone to withdrawal your funds from bitcoinica and watch the shit hit the fan.

Visit, www.coinexchanger.com

We will lower our withdrawal fee in the next couple of days, in the meantime 9% is fair.

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