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Quote from: Hamza2424 on August 21, 2022, 03:52:14 AM

Ohhh, Interesting i saw the Post then i just checked the profile its from 2013 and impressive too old profile and still a topic odlf that profile is being Discussed. That the Beauty of this platform. But It doesn't make sense to discuss as the profile is already Inactive for ancient times.

If it is something interesting, it can cause some emotion for many, because it is something that comes from back and it is an old site, but it is necessary to see if it is well presented under the requirements that we always look for, what I want to say is that it has the enough confidence to operate there and not become a site where you have a bad time, because there are many sites that I have seen that have this approach and things do not end very well, so from my own experience, it is better to be cautious, now if it is the same but with a much improved version, I like it, because I will always support companies that resurface and rise like the phoenix.

This thread is way too old (2013). also, the site isn't accessible; I don't understand why it's still under discussion.
I think the site is already down. Also, the admin is inactive, and the admin himself found no response. So I believe We better leave this topic and move towards another one.

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Quote from: Hamza2424 on August 21, 2022, 03:52:14 AM

Ohhh, Interesting i saw the Post then i just checked the profile its from 2013 and impressive too old profile and still a topic odlf that profile is being Discussed. That the Beauty of this platform. But It doesn't make sense to discuss as the profile is already Inactive for ancient times.

If it is something interesting, it can cause some emotion for many, because it is something that comes from back and it is an old site, but it is necessary to see if it is well presented under the requirements that we always look for, what I want to say is that it has the enough confidence to operate there and not become a site where you have a bad time, because there are many sites that I have seen that have this approach and things do not end very well, so from my own experience, it is better to be cautious, now if it is the same but with a much improved version, I like it, because I will always support companies that resurface and rise like the phoenix.

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Ohhh, Interesting i saw the Post then i just checked the profile its from 2013 and impressive too old profile and still a topic odlf that profile is being Discussed. That the Beauty of this platform. But It doesn't make sense to discuss as the profile is already Inactive for ancient times.

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on August 20, 2022, 04:08:31 PM

OP wasnt online for almost a decade and someone did really bump it out.Its true that in all existing gambling sites nowadays do really give out on what we do need when it comes to gambling games or services.
We dont want to see this necessarily unless if they decided to come back but having more features and offerings then it would be considerable.

I agree, In fact, the old link is dead, someone bumps this thread to ask questions between .in and .bet. If we doubt and without any explanation from the owner better to far away to not deposit and play.

So I think if we want to continue to assume, maybe this news also has the connection. Coingaming Group Rebrands as Yolo Group, just ignore it if don't have a related.

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Quote from: virasisog on August 15, 2022, 10:11:46 AM

Quote from: YOSHIE on August 15, 2022, 09:03:32 AM

I hope everyone will see what you're saying, the gambling site CoinGames is really dead, actually this thread has sunk in the edit online was done in 2013, somehow this dead thread is resurrected, luckily their website is not working.

Be careful with the address they leave in this thread, never deposit any $1 for that address, it's a dead address and a scam, money never comes back, remember to pay attention to what @tabas said.

It will be a risk to trust their given details if their website isn't working anymore. Yes, CoinGames is dead and have been inactive for years so we don't have any assurance that the people behind the new domain are the original owner of the said site. Since we aren't sure about it, it would be better to do continuous research than to risk our funds on them. Scammers and hackers are everywhere so we better be observant.

But, who deposits without checking the site first if it's still functional or not? I never did that and even if I am confident about the platforms that I am using I always double check stuffs like if their deposit address is still the same or not anymore so that I won't lose my funds.

This site here is dead but it wasn't a loss to us I guess? Because, we have so many new sites now which are more modern and can offer a better overall service than the ones we got here. But, I see that there is another site which has a similar name. In order to be sure if they have connections or not, why not some of us here ask their customer support directly?

There's no need for any discussion on sites or platforms/companies which arent running anymore or already been dead or down.Dont know on why this one had been bumped up considering that

OP wasnt online for almost a decade and someone did really bump it out.Its true that in all existing gambling sites nowadays do really give out on what we do need when it comes to gambling games or services.
We dont want to see this necessarily unless if they decided to come back but having more features and offerings then it would be considerable.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on August 15, 2022, 09:03:32 AM

I hope everyone will see what you're saying, the gambling site CoinGames is really dead, actually this thread has sunk in the edit online was done in 2013, somehow this dead thread is resurrected, luckily their website is not working.

Be careful with the address they leave in this thread, never deposit any $1 for that address, it's a dead address and a scam, money never comes back, remember to pay attention to what @tabas said.

It will be a risk to trust their given details if their website isn't working anymore. Yes, CoinGames is dead and have been inactive for years so we don't have any assurance that the people behind the new domain are the original owner of the said site. Since we aren't sure about it, it would be better to do continuous research than to risk our funds on them. Scammers and hackers are everywhere so we better be observant.

But, who deposits without checking the site first if it's still functional or not? I never did that and even if I am confident about the platforms that I am using I always double check stuffs like if their deposit address is still the same or not anymore so that I won't lose my funds.

This site here is dead but it wasn't a loss to us I guess? Because, we have so many new sites now which are more modern and can offer a better overall service than the ones we got here. But, I see that there is another site which has a similar name. In order to be sure if they have connections or not, why not some of us here ask their customer support directly?

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Quote from: gunhell16 on August 16, 2022, 09:26:25 PM

I just heard of these games, but it's been around for a long time, since 2013 they started and opened in the cryptocurrency industry. It's just that during those 9 years it seems like it's hard to trust because it doesn't seem like hte platform boomed in the field of crypto gambling, then it's just surprising why there's an address posted here in this thread section, nothing would have been sent in this matter sent to the address given because the money you send will surely go to nothing.

The question is the thread admin have being inactive since 2013 so why then should anyone trust another person making post with an address in this thread again. The casino is an old-time casino and I have followed up with them in the earlier days of their business but not long after their exit, the gambling science may be due to not meeting up with the current demands of the market. But then there have also been some pockets of activities on and off this thread as connect to these casinos but just as I have always warned, no one should make any deposits to any addressee old or new.

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From my point of view, the updated (or clone using a similar name) CoinGames casino site is simply fraudulent since it is not possible to verify the authenticity of its licenses and this is only at first glance, try to stay away from it.

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Quote from: gunhell16 on August 16, 2022, 09:26:25 PM

I just heard of these games, but it's been around for a long time, since 2013 they started and opened in the cryptocurrency industry. It's just that during those 9 years it seems like it's hard to trust because it doesn't seem like hte platform boomed in the field of crypto gambling, then it's just surprising why there's an address posted here in this thread section, nothing would have been sent in this matter sent to the address given because the money you send will surely go to nothing.

I am the same as you, who just heard about this site. If they started their business in 2013, they should be very well known in this forum and have many regular members who often gamble on their site. But if they do not promote their site in this forum well, their site will not be able to develop properly because the users will not get any benefit from their site. Hopefully, the team from the site can do well this time so that their site can grow well.

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Quote from: Newlifebtc on August 15, 2022, 08:09:04 AM

Quote from: tabas on August 11, 2022, 11:49:46 AM

I guess the domain which is '.bet' isn't related to the owners of the old coingames. It's hard to say that this .bet and .com domains are related as there will always be the quicker catch for these good domain names.
But looking at the .bet domain, it looks like a good casino although I haven't tried it and it's the first time that I've seen it because delfast has shared it.

If they are same one i think people will know as you have such instinct concerning them. Because if it's them they will make possible changes that you don't know or the change that you will not understand or change you can know that they are the one but have different new things in the platform that will make them be unique from the old one

I think for almost 10 years of not active in this thread? why all of a sudden this site will show in another place? if there is one thing that they will do is that to bump this thread or at least show people that they are the same from this one right?
but i doubt that it is considered to be legit because if this thread is dead for long years then it is not the same one who goes with another after that long.

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I just heard of these games, but it's been around for a long time, since 2013 they started and opened in the cryptocurrency industry. It's just that during those 9 years it seems like it's hard to trust because it doesn't seem like hte platform boomed in the field of crypto gambling, then it's just surprising why there's an address posted here in this thread section, nothing would have been sent in this matter sent to the address given because the money you send will surely go to nothing.

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In fact, the new site is not in the search on curacao-egaming.com although they have the registration number Curacao No.137028, and gaming license No.8048/JAZZ2015-035, the twitter account has 16 subscribers and the account has existed since February of this year, so I would not trust this site.

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Quote from: Newlifebtc on August 15, 2022, 08:09:04 AM

Quote from: tabas on August 11, 2022, 11:49:46 AM

I guess the domain which is '.bet' isn't related to the owners of the old coingames. It's hard to say that this .bet and .com domains are related as there will always be the quicker catch for these good domain names.
But looking at the .bet domain, it looks like a good casino although I haven't tried it and it's the first time that I've seen it because delfast has shared it.

If they are same one i think people will know as you have such instinct concerning them. Because if it's them they will make possible changes that you don't know or the change that you will not understand or change you can know that they are the one but have different new things in the platform that will make them be unique from the old one

Instincts are not enough to know if such are attached together or owned by the same company or people. That's why you need to DYOR and take time in doing it to prove that it's really owned by the same entities.

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Quote from: tabas on August 14, 2022, 06:19:00 PM

Just like what everyone has been doing, whether it is for a casino or an exchange, just be careful to where you're depositing your money and always do a research.

I hope everyone will see what you're saying, the gambling site CoinGames is really dead, actually this thread has sunk in the edit online was done in 2013, somehow this dead thread is resurrected, luckily their website is not working.

Be careful with the address they leave in this thread, never deposit any $1 for that address, it's a dead address and a scam, money never comes back, remember to pay attention to what @tabas said.

Thanks!
I've just remembered that there were newbies that have posted the same situation that they've been asked by a scammer to deposit to a "new" address as if the posted old address is no longer active. Well, old timers can't be fooled by this tactic but newbies really are vulnerable to such.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on August 15, 2022, 09:03:32 AM

Quote from: tabas on August 14, 2022, 06:19:00 PM

Just like what everyone has been doing, whether it is for a casino or an exchange, just be careful to where you're depositing your money and always do a research.

I hope everyone will see what you're saying, the gambling site CoinGames is really dead, actually this thread has sunk in the edit online was done in 2013, somehow this dead thread is resurrected, luckily their website is not working.

Be careful with the address they leave in this thread, never deposit any $1 for that address, it's a dead address and a scam, money never comes back, remember to pay attention to what @tabas said.

It will be a risk to trust their given details if their website isn't working anymore. Yes, CoinGames is dead and have been inactive for years so we don't have any assurance that the people behind the new domain are the original owner of the said site. Since we aren't sure about it, it would be better to do continuous research than to risk our funds on them. Scammers and hackers are everywhere so we better be observant.

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Quote from: tabas on August 14, 2022, 06:19:00 PM

Just like what everyone has been doing, whether it is for a casino or an exchange, just be careful to where you're depositing your money and always do a research.

I hope everyone will see what you're saying, the gambling site CoinGames is really dead, actually this thread has sunk in the edit online was done in 2013, somehow this dead thread is resurrected, luckily their website is not working.

Be careful with the address they leave in this thread, never deposit any $1 for that address, it's a dead address and a scam, money never comes back, remember to pay attention to what @tabas said.

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Quote from: tabas on August 11, 2022, 11:49:46 AM

I guess the domain which is '.bet' isn't related to the owners of the old coingames. It's hard to say that this .bet and .com domains are related as there will always be the quicker catch for these good domain names.
But looking at the .bet domain, it looks like a good casino although I haven't tried it and it's the first time that I've seen it because delfast has shared it.

If they are same one i think people will know as you have such instinct concerning them. Because if it's them they will make possible changes that you don't know or the change that you will not understand or change you can know that they are the one but have different new things in the platform that will make them be unique from the old one

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Quote from: danadc on August 14, 2022, 01:07:39 PM

Well according to the title of the thread they say that they are back, but I think they are not active yet, if the domain has not been purchased then how can they say that they are active?

No, they're not back. The original post on this thread has made it back in 2013, so they're not back and they're not really active at all and that title was made on that year. The recent discussions have started due to the domain that's likely made them back but not on this original one.

Quote from: danadc on August 14, 2022, 01:07:39 PM

I think that with this you should be careful and not fall into sites where they can do some phishing, many people can fall into it.

Just like what everyone has been doing, whether it is for a casino or an exchange, just be careful to where you're depositing your money and always do a research.

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Well according to the title of the thread they say that they are back, but I think they are not active yet, if the domain has not been purchased then how can they say that they are active? I think that with this you should be careful and not fall into sites where they can do some phishing, many people can fall into it.

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Quote from: Daltonik on August 04, 2022, 12:09:01 PM

If you look with the help of the service who.is then you can see that the domain coingames.in it is sold for $17,121.20, so it's hard to guess whether it is the predecessor of the site of the same name casino on the domain .bet here's what the page looked like coingames.in in 2013

How did you learn that the domain was bought for $17,121.20? The who.is service doesn't seem to show that information.

Quote from: Nrcewker on August 11, 2022, 11:20:54 AM

Are we talking about the domain or the name of the site here?
As for me the domain is not working. It’s showing connection failed.

The site works perfectly fine from my end. But the domain name we are talking about here is coingames.bet (the old domain from the OP was coingames.io).

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I guess the domain which is '.bet' isn't related to the owners of the old coingames. It's hard to say that this .bet and .com domains are related as there will always be the quicker catch for these good domain names.
But looking at the .bet domain, it looks like a good casino although I haven't tried it and it's the first time that I've seen it because delfast has shared it.

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Quote from: Daltonik on August 11, 2022, 11:05:03 AM

I think the creators of the new gambling site just took a beautiful name for themselves and since the CoinGames brand was not previously registered, as I think, as property and the original site was just made by enthusiasts, it seems to me that it has nothing to do with the original creators.

Are we talking about the domain or the name of the site here?
As for me the domain is not working. It’s showing connection failed.
I guess if there is a new site with the same name, then it’s completely different from the OP here.
Here the site is from 2013, and at that time the contents of the site were really different, so I don’t think the site we are considering here is the one from the 2013.
I will be really surprised if the OP here at Bitcointalk comes online and announce about the site.

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I think the creators of the new gambling site just took a beautiful name for themselves and since the CoinGames brand was not previously registered, as I think, as property and the original site was just made by enthusiasts, it seems to me that it has nothing to do with the original creators.

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Actually, the link in my post is from an advertising article that was published in a pretty decent publication dedicated to the world of cryptocurrencies. It may well be that someone decided on the revival of the once torn casino. In general, I do not think that the new link is some kind of scam.

But of course, I can’t give guarantees of good faith and the authors of the article itself and the publication itself.

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Quote from: Daltonik on August 04, 2022, 12:09:01 PM

If you look with the help of the service who.is then you can see that the domain coingames.in it is sold for $17,121.20, so it's hard to guess whether it is the predecessor of the site of the same name casino on the domain .bet here's what the page looked like coingames.in in 2013

17k was a decent amount only for just a domain but if this was sold then why the domain is still not functional? They did only bought it for nothing? Or maybe they have plans for it later on. I don't think the other site/link has a connection to the old gambling site and as we can see their designs and the games are also different from each other, but thanks for sharing how the old site look like. It's simple but it looks pretty interesting.

I wonder if the game is live like there's really a cat that will shuffle the cups or it's only just an image but the game is going to be drawn using some kind of a randomizer. The second link/site looks good too.

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If you look with the help of the service who.is then you can see that the domain coingames.in it is sold for $17,121.20, so it's hard to guess whether it is the predecessor of the site of the same name casino on the domain .bet here's what the page looked like coingames.in in 2013

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Quote from: delfastTions on August 04, 2022, 09:49:51 AM

Quote from: Agbe on August 01, 2022, 01:17:25 PM

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OP non of the sites provided by you is working. why? I dont believe that Coingames site is still working again. I have been hearing coingames in my locality and boys where playing their games and saying the games were good and the site was running smoothly. So, when you said, coingames is back so I was thinking to check the platform and the features of the site to know if I can place a bet. But irony was the case. But if there is another site that has been developed by them, the OP being the company's agent should provide the new site in the forum. But if the site or the company is not existing anymore. this thread should be locked to avoid spamming. Because if this thread is not locked and the so called coingames are not on existence then all the comments on this thread are useless. If they are on maintenance, you can also inform us. Instead of keeping us muted.

Naturally, in 10 years everything has changed and the old links stopped working.

It's just that I accidentally, while reading the news, found an advertising article about CoinGames. And rummaging through the corners of my memory, I remembered that it seemed like there was already such a casino. I looked at old topics and saw that such a casino was indeed opened a long time ago. Then it disappeared for many years, disappeared on the Internet.

But here are the new links to CoinGames:

https://coingames.bet/en

Of course, the domain is different now, and probably this new CoinGames is not related to the old site coingames.in

Maybe someone was lucky enough to snatch the domain since no one else is using it for so long. It is still a catchy name for a platform and it can still potentially attract a lot of new comers into the space if only this new site offered something unique and gave out a lot of positives to the overall experience of the players.

Seeing how crude were the methods of old in order to place a bet, I couldn't be happier that we advanced and made a lot of things easier for gamblers.

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Quote from: Agbe on August 01, 2022, 01:17:25 PM

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OP non of the sites provided by you is working. why? I dont believe that Coingames site is still working again. I have been hearing coingames in my locality and boys where playing their games and saying the games were good and the site was running smoothly. So, when you said, coingames is back so I was thinking to check the platform and the features of the site to know if I can place a bet. But irony was the case. But if there is another site that has been developed by them, the OP being the company's agent should provide the new site in the forum. But if the site or the company is not existing anymore. this thread should be locked to avoid spamming. Because if this thread is not locked and the so called coingames are not on existence then all the comments on this thread are useless. If they are on maintenance, you can also inform us. Instead of keeping us muted.

Naturally, in 10 years everything has changed and the old links stopped working.

It's just that I accidentally, while reading the news, found an advertising article about CoinGames. And rummaging through the corners of my memory, I remembered that it seemed like there was already such a casino. I looked at old topics and saw that such a casino was indeed opened a long time ago. Then it disappeared for many years, disappeared on the Internet.

But here are the new links to CoinGames:

https://coingames.bet/en

Of course, the domain is different now, and probably this new CoinGames is not related to the old site coingames.in

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OP non of the sites provided by you is working. why? I dont believe that Coingames site is still working again. I have been hearing coingames in my locality and boys where playing their games and saying the games were good and the site was running smoothly. So, when you said, coingames is back so I was thinking to check the platform and the features of the site to know if I can place a bet. But irony was the case. But if there is another site that has been developed by them, the OP being the company's agent should provide the new site in the forum. But if the site or the company is not existing anymore. this thread should be locked to avoid spamming. Because if this thread is not locked and the so called coingames are not on existence then all the comments on this thread are useless. If they are on maintenance, you can also inform us. Instead of keeping us muted.

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I wonder if CoinGames is the same casino from 2012?

Or suddenly someone began to advertise themselves, or is it some kind of modification of the original?
Who understands what?

CoinGames: A new way to play casino

“An innovative online crypto casino facility that has over 10,000 games and roughly 200 game providers”

Registering at CoinGamesRegistering at CoinGames is easy: with just a few clicks you are free to explore a whole new world of entertainment! The decentralized nature of the CoinGames gaming facility makes the movement of funds faster and easier than in traditional casino contexts, so much so that a user could be on their way to playing with simply a few clicks! Moreover, unlike traditional centralized gambling entities, whether they be physical or online casinos, our decentralized framework allows us to ensure that the entirety of the system in our facility is trustless and transparent to the fullest extent possible. Decentralized gambling service providers per se are an improvement over centralized entities as they take away control from casinos and give the control to software managed by clear and transparent rules that cannot be manipulated by anyone once deployed....

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Well.. we are back online. Using the same betting addresses. Let's see what happens.

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Quote from: johoe on September 18, 2013, 01:45:51 PM

My guess is that the hacker somehow got hold of your blockchain.info password and used that to transfer the money. This also explains why the transaction pay the change to the 1cup address and why they were initiated by blockchain.info.

I can only guess how he got the password. Maybe he broke into your server and found the password in the scripts that do the RPC API calls.

Johoe

That sounds plausible. I´ll get in touch with our provider and see if we can somehow verify that hypothesis. Thanks Johoe.

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My guess is that the hacker somehow got hold of your blockchain.info password and used that to transfer the money. This also explains why the transaction pay the change to the 1cup address and why they were initiated by blockchain.info.

I can only guess how he got the password. Maybe he broke into your server and found the password in the scripts that do the RPC API calls.

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I've actually followed the money a bit, and the way that address 16oP8up3f8ePer1vfBPhypRqkUnsA9ZfYM makes hundreds of transfers to a large string of addresses to hide the final owner of that money is highly suspect, indicative of deliberate obfuscation.

If our private keys were intercepted, there is a very limited amount of ways it could have been done.

-Our addresses were created through https://bitcoinvanity.appspot.com/
-We used an online wallet hosted by https://blockchain.info/
-We communicated with blockchain through their RPC API http://blockchain.info/api/json_rpc_api
-Our website hosting provider is http://www.orangewebsite.com/ and was paid for in BTC

The security flaw is almost certainly in one of the above points. Those addresses were not used for anything else and no other online wallet, website, or org has access to the private keys.

My suspicion is still that this was the blockchain.info RNG security flaw that some people have mentioned, but I don't discard any possible suspects. Hell, maybe the vanitygen website is a scam and keeps the private keys of every address that they generate... who knows..

On the blockchain.info security flaw, more here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/blockchaininfo-security-funds-stolen-277595

I've also sent a message in a new transaction to brand the hacker's address:

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Public Note: WARNING HACKER! The receiving address belongs to a Hacker who stole over 4BTC from us. See CoinGames Hacked.

Hopefully at some point in the future it will help to track stolen funds and taint all addresses associated with this one. At the very least it will force the thief to go through a mixer..

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Quote from: BRules on September 18, 2013, 07:42:44 AM

You're talking about this transaction:
https://blockchain.info/tx/ed0638d8b13ac8c1c032c2e228a1fa03a394b5eae98dea056909e8783943ca41
right?

As you can see he sent 4 bitcoins to his address but the change (0.0357598) was sent back your address, if he had you private keys, why he would do that?

That is interesting. Thanks for pointing it out. However the fact that he managed to send 4 BTC from all 3 of our addresses simultaneously is not compatible with how our system works. Also our system would have added a "win" message to a winning bet. I still think the hackers managed to get a hold of the private keys somehow.

In fact it looks like they then proceeded to take the spare change as well, in a number of transactions, as you can see here:
https://blockchain.info/address/1CupN8S71dVcWRE2LcFc4CwymUbSAefBpA

There are several transactions to the same 16oP8up3f8ePer1vfBPhypRqkUnsA9ZfYM address, all from 2013-08-25. None correspond to an incoming transfer which would trigger our gaming system.

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You're talking about this transaction:
https://blockchain.info/tx/ed0638d8b13ac8c1c032c2e228a1fa03a394b5eae98dea056909e8783943ca41
right?

As you can see he sent 4 bitcoins to his address but the change (0.0357598) was sent back your address, if he had you private keys, why he would do that?

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Quote from: BRules on September 16, 2013, 12:48:08 PM

if he got your private keys, why he would send the change back to your address? why he didn't take all the coins?

In my opinion there is a flaw in your gaming system that he exploited.

I don't understand what you mean. You can clearly see here

https://blockchain.info/address/1CupN8S71dVcWRE2LcFc4CwymUbSAefBpA
https://blockchain.info/address/1CUPh77AYNHfBibqLuRJvLSyuYPDRrsPV
https://blockchain.info/address/1cupbpTMyLZFPmoG2BW32hZk1d26wvGGh

That on 2013-08-25 our 3 addresses were emptied. He did take all the coins.

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if he got your private keys, why he would send the change back to your address? why he didn't take all the coins?

In my opinion there is a flaw in your gaming system that he exploited.

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Let me give a bit more info, since it seems that people here are willing to help.

Our gaming engine was not hacked. The hackers simply sent themselves the full balance of our 3 betting addresses which had just over 1 BTC each.

My guess is that they acquired the private keys for those addresses. Either by some flaw in the server's supposedly secure communications with blockchain.info or by exploiting some flaw with blockchain.info's online wallet's RNG.

The hacked addresses had been used many times over a 2 month period and were vanity addresses. So they would have been vulnerable to a flaw similar to the one in the blockchain mobile wallet.

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Bet at these addresses:
1CupN8S71dVcWRE2LcFc4CwymUbSAefBpA ---1CUPh77AYNHfBibqLuRJvLSyuYPDRrsPV ---1cupbpTMyLZFPmoG2BW32hZk1d26wvGGh

From the activity I see at the receiving address, we were clearly not the only victims. Many more BTC were taken from others. I'm surprised nobody else has come up with a similar story.

The hacker owner of 16oP8up3f8ePer1vfBPhypRqkUnsA9ZfYM has taken over 400BTC... so somebody else must have seen this..

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Quote from: b!z on September 14, 2013, 11:45:10 PM

Quote from: CoinGames on September 14, 2013, 08:05:53 AM

By the way, CoinGames was recently hacked. Losing just over 4 BTC (thank goodness we were still in Beta!).

We are trying to find out who, and more importantly, how they did it. Any help would be appreciated.

We do know that the Bitcoin address that the coins were sent to is:

Hacker https://blockchain.info/address/16oP8up3f8ePer1vfBPhypRqkUnsA9ZfYM

As you can see, they seem to have run off with almost 420 BTC, of which 4.18 BTC belonged to CoinGames.

So if anybody else has been a victim, or knows the owner of this address, let us know:
16oP8up3f8ePer1vfBPhypRqkUnsA9ZfYM

But much more importantly, we want to know how. We were using the blockchain wallet and API, which is supposedly quite safe. I understand there have recently been some security issues with Android wallets, due to the Android faulty RNG, however this is the first I hear of problems with the online blockchain wallet.

Any help and/or info will be appreciated.

There was faulty RNG on desktop browsers too, I think.

Interesting. I missed that. Link please?

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Quote from: CoinGames on September 14, 2013, 08:05:53 AM

By the way, CoinGames was recently hacked. Losing just over 4 BTC (thank goodness we were still in Beta!).

We are trying to find out who, and more importantly, how they did it. Any help would be appreciated.

We do know that the Bitcoin address that the coins were sent to is:

Hacker https://blockchain.info/address/16oP8up3f8ePer1vfBPhypRqkUnsA9ZfYM

As you can see, they seem to have run off with almost 420 BTC, of which 4.18 BTC belonged to CoinGames.

So if anybody else has been a victim, or knows the owner of this address, let us know:
16oP8up3f8ePer1vfBPhypRqkUnsA9ZfYM

But much more importantly, we want to know how. We were using the blockchain wallet and API, which is supposedly quite safe. I understand there have recently been some security issues with Android wallets, due to the Android faulty RNG, however this is the first I hear of problems with the online blockchain wallet.

Any help and/or info will be appreciated.

There was faulty RNG on desktop browsers too, I think.

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Drunk Lunatic

@CoinGames sent You PM.

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Quote from: CoinGames on September 14, 2013, 08:05:53 AM

Any help and/or info will be appreciated.

We will need more details if you want a help:

- how your system was working with the blockchain.info api
- was the main wallet also a blockchain.info wallet?
- if so, do your main blcokchain.info wallet had any alias and was the password used by you on the wallet unique?

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Quote from: CoinGames on September 14, 2013, 08:05:53 AM

By the way, CoinGames was recently hacked. Losing just over 4 BTC (thank goodness we were still in Beta!).

We are trying to find out who, and more importantly, how they did it. Any help would be appreciated.

How do you plan to receive any help regarding the part "how they did it" ? So far you didn't manage to explain how the results were made (all you said the player had x% chance to win, but what method did you use ?), so it seems unlikely that you can explain how your entire code works (or how it doesn't work, since you were hacked).

To properly figure out "how they did it", you will mostly likely need to open source your code and hope someone looks at it. If you are not planning to do that, I predict that at best you will get irrelevant comments. So let me start with a comment that might very well be irrelevant: how did you protect the wallet's password ? how did you protect your servers ? do you run any kind of SQL database and can I query it through your site ? ...

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By the way, CoinGames was recently hacked. Losing just over 4 BTC (thank goodness we were still in Beta!).

We are trying to find out who, and more importantly, how they did it. Any help would be appreciated.

We do know that the Bitcoin address that the coins were sent to is:

Hacker https://blockchain.info/address/16oP8up3f8ePer1vfBPhypRqkUnsA9ZfYM

As you can see, they seem to have run off with almost 420 BTC, of which 4.18 BTC belonged to CoinGames.

So if anybody else has been a victim, or knows the owner of this address, let us know:
16oP8up3f8ePer1vfBPhypRqkUnsA9ZfYM

But much more importantly, we want to know how. We were using the blockchain wallet and API, which is supposedly quite safe. I understand there have recently been some security issues with Android wallets, due to the Android faulty RNG, however this is the first I hear of problems with the online blockchain wallet.

Any help and/or info will be appreciated.

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Quote from: Mooshire on August 03, 2013, 08:36:20 PM

Quote from: vlees on August 03, 2013, 08:35:18 PM

Quote from: Mooshire on August 03, 2013, 08:13:55 PM

Does the animation actually have anything to do with the results? Because it lands on the same one every time.

It's just a random gif. The result gets calculated somehow per transaction but the person running this still did not explain HOW this is done.

Some kind of provably fair thing would be great.

It's just a simple odds/dice game. It is not a game of skill. The animation is irrelevant to the actual result. Each time you bet we generate a random result where you have 0.48 probability of winning and get paid your bet amount x2 when you win. In other words, house edge is 2%.

We are working on the provably fair thing, new games and lots of fun stuff.

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Quote from: vlees on August 03, 2013, 08:35:18 PM

Quote from: Mooshire on August 03, 2013, 08:13:55 PM

Does the animation actually have anything to do with the results? Because it lands on the same one every time.

It's just a random gif. The result gets calculated somehow per transaction but the person running this still did not explain HOW this is done.

Some kind of provably fair thing would be great.

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Quote from: Mooshire on August 03, 2013, 08:13:55 PM

Does the animation actually have anything to do with the results? Because it lands on the same one every time.

It's just a random gif. The result gets calculated somehow per transaction but the person running this still did not explain HOW this is done.

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Does the animation actually have anything to do with the results? Because it lands on the same one every time.

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The cups move so fast I can't keep track. Can i bet on 2 cups?

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I just pick a cup and hope to win

ToLy

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I don't get the game, there are 3 cups and 3 bitcoin chips, what's the difference ? what are the odds ?

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From August 4th house edge will be 2%. In other words odds will be 0.48 to win and payout x2.

We will notify here and in our FAQ of any changes.

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Wow, Thank you. Im about to head to sleep right now, I can confirm I have received it. I'll go ahead and try again tomorrow when I get up. Thank you again.

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Quote from: i3lome on July 16, 2013, 07:16:14 PM

To be honest, I cant find the transaction Id, I send a lot of small transaction so Its almost impossible for me to find. We will just say I lost. I like the Idea of you game and will play again in a few days. Hope I have better luck.

Thanks for the response

I'll tell you what... I have just sent you BTC0.02 to 1H7E7YqMoWQZsUCumbvyASYJzpnz3dudaB as a gift!

I hope to see you back playing CoinGames soon.

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To be honest, I cant find the transaction Id, I send a lot of small transaction so Its almost impossible for me to find. We will just say I lost. I like the Idea of you game and will play again in a few days. Hope I have better luck.

Thanks for the response

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Quote from: i3lome on July 13, 2013, 12:15:31 AM

Pretty sure I got jacked for BTC0.02. Nothin happened waited a while now I can find my txid. It didn't show weather I won or lost. Also Could be on the deposit screen, Whats up with the block chain link.

Any who my feed back, Better Clarified Deposit Addresses and A better notification for win or lose.

Again I may be stupid and will prolly try again sometime

If you tell us the address that you made the bet from, we will id your bet and check for you. We will definitely send you those 0.02 if you won and didn't get them (that shouldn't happen).

Results are instant.. but you have to refresh the page to update the results table (we will fix that). The link to blockchain is also a bit messy, we'll do something about that...

Thanks for the feedback!

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Pretty sure I got jacked for BTC0.02. Nothin happened waited a while now I can find my txid. It didn't show weather I won or lost. Also Could be on the deposit screen, Whats up with the block chain link.

Any who my feed back, Better Clarified Deposit Addresses and A better notification for win or lose.

Again I may be stupid and will prolly try again sometime

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Quote from: patricktim on July 11, 2013, 12:37:18 AM

What is the maximum allowed bet ?

Right now the maximum payout is whatever is in the betting addresses. So you should not bet more than that.

In general, while we are in testing, I would not recommend any bets larger than BTC0.25

From our FAQ:

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3. Is there a max/min bet? At present we are in testing mode and there is no max/min bet. However we recommend that you exercise common sense and make only small bets until you see how it works. It is also sensible to check out the balance in the betting addresses: never bet more than that since that is where your winnings will come from!

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What is the maximum allowed bet ?

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Quote from: vlees on July 10, 2013, 02:55:23 AM

Just tell us how you are calculating if a TX-id wins or loses and I will consider playing your game.

Sure. As soon as it is fixed we will make it public. Right now we don't want to commit because we are in beta and might change it all tomorrow or next week. I understand if you don't want to play under these conditions. Hopefully you will be more amenable once we come out of testing.

Although... it's not like I'm asking you to bet huge sums on unknown odds! I'm just asking you to try it with an insignificant sum, like BTC0.000001, to help us test our systems.

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Just tell us how you are calculating if a TX-id wins or loses and I will consider playing your game.

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There is no minimum. Just make 10 bets of BTC 0.00001 and see what happens Wink

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Quote from: CoinGames on July 09, 2013, 12:16:22 PM

Should be easy since you can see all the transactions. We intend to continue to use the same address for each bet. Just look at it in blockchain.

The number of bets right now is very small.. but as soon as you have a decent sample size (50-100) it's extremely easy to do the math. No better proof than time.

That's not true. The best time will show is that you pay out on about half the bets you receive. It won't prove that you don't tend to pay out on almost the bets your friends make and very few of the ones made by others.

Better proof of fairness would be to actually prove that you're being fair. By allowing the player to pick a seed for the randomness (like almost every other reputable bitcoin gaming site out there does).

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Quote from: CoinGames on July 09, 2013, 12:16:22 PM

Quote from: vlees on July 09, 2013, 07:36:16 AM

Anything on how to check if you are being fair, so how are you calculating what a win is and what a loss is?

Should be easy since you can see all the transactions. We intend to continue to use the same address for each bet. Just look at it in blockchain.

The number of bets right now is very small.. but as soon as you have a decent sample size (50-100) it's extremely easy to do the math. No better proof than time.

No, I mean how do you determine if it's a win or a loss?

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Quote from: vlees on July 09, 2013, 07:36:16 AM

Anything on how to check if you are being fair, so how are you calculating what a win is and what a loss is?

Should be easy since you can see all the transactions. We intend to continue to use the same address for each bet. Just look at it in blockchain.

The number of bets right now is very small.. but as soon as you have a decent sample size (50-100) it's extremely easy to do the math. No better proof than time.

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Anything on how to check if you are being fair, so how are you calculating what a win is and what a loss is?

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welcome!!!i will try this!!!! Cool

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Quote from: Frogcoin on July 09, 2013, 04:16:45 AM

What are the odds of winning and payouts?

Payouts are x2, as you can see from looking at the blockchain betting addresses.

Odds are not fixed yet, we are still testing stuff. Over the next few weeks they will range from 0.33 to 0.5. Then we will probably do a promotional period of negative house edge (0.53-0.55) and after that we'll see..

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What are the odds of winning and payouts?

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There is no minimum bet. You can bet on coingames with just 0.00001BTC if you want...

Just try it!

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OK.. a few things have been fixed. Try it now.
http://www.coingames.in/

(still in testing 'though, so don't bet large amounts)

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http://www.coingames.in/info.html

Code:

Not Found

The requested URL /info.html was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

FAQ links to http://isabeloide.com/west/faq/

Code:

Error 404 - Page not found!
The page you trying to reach does not exist, or has been moved. Please use the menus or the search box to find what you are looking for.

Terms and conditions: http://isabeloide.com/west/terms-conditions/

I'll stop now. Is there anything that does work and is testable?

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Update:
As of August 4th 2013 winning odds on our cups game are 0.48, payout is x2. In other words house edge is 2%.
There is still no minimum bet. Maximum bet is now raised to BTC 1.00 (and will be increased again soon).

If you don't understand how to play, please visit: http://www.coingames.in/info.html

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CoinGames is back online!

Welcome to CoinGames - Classic Bitcoin Games

http://www.coingames.in

*No registration, sign-up or personal data required
*Low house edge: 2%
*Instant results, 1-confirmation payouts
*Simple, blockchain-based betting
*Maximum bet: BTC 1.00 (will be increased soon)
*Minimum bet: BTC 0.0000001

Bet at these addresses:
1CupN8S71dVcWRE2LcFc4CwymUbSAefBpA ---1CUPh77AYNHfBibqLuRJvLSyuYPDRrsPV ---1cupbpTMyLZFPmoG2BW32hZk1d26wvGGh

More games and features coming soon!

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