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I wanted to post to address a couple of the issues raised and try my best to answer them;
1. We have not appointed a liquidator for the simple reason we cannot afford one. We have posted a link so that anyone can request a wind-up order for our company. At that point a liquidator will be appointed. We have no liquidator information to post because there isn’t one as yet.
so you want us to pay to wind up your business?
2. We do have some stock but not as many as people think. All we have in our hands are 1ltc coins. The silver coins are being retained by the coin manufacture. The coins we are holding will be given to a liquidator should one be appointed. We also have a lot of boxes, holograms & proto-type coins as assets.
so what happened to the 45 bull, 29 chickun and 38 LA coins you emailed me about in Jan?i offered to buy them off you when you emailed me and said they were in stock? Did you sell them? Did you sell them to Charles Lee like you said you would? If so where are those funds?
3. We have shut everything down because we can no longer operate as a company and have exhausted all possibilities of trying to raise capital to make things right. Neither the company nor I own a single Bitcoin or Litecoin
i am confused, where did all the coins people send you go? Let's be honest mark the only mold you had made was the 5BTC coin and that was finished before people sent you lots of funds.
4. Since we announced our problems we have not sold a single coin, we did not accept any orders that we knew we were not going to be able to fill.
Bullshit - Mark do you forget our conversations on the phone, the emails you sent, luckily I recorded them all -- you have been having problems since what November? Are you saying I didn't make payments at a time you knew you were not going to be able to fill - where did these coins go Mark. You may as well share this info here as you will have to share it in court - by the way I have requested judgement be made in person at the court so I can provide evidence in person and Mark there is a lot of it building up. EVERYONE who sent Mark funds after November please post below
5. Any monies received for pre-orders of the bitcoin collection were invested into the company and the production of those coins. We paid for molds, dies, prototypes, boxes, holograms, competitions, designs, website, advertising, hosting, office costs, and internet as well as many other associated costs. I personally invested much more of my own personal money into this project then was ever received in orders.
Mark, did you also not fail to pay your designer? You do realise you will have to evidence these costs referred to above in court, I am pretty sure the amount you have received in BTC and LTC a will exceed these. By the way your office in Western doesn't exist, neither of them do - one is a virtual office and the other next door to the gift shop well let's just say I spoke with the landlord and shop manager.
6. Support for our product was very low since the company started. We have had no more then 30-40 customers since the company started last April.
7. We never kept any private key information. Redeem your coins if you wish to or can’t trust that fact.
8. No fraud has taken place here. Every penny received can be accounted for in costs. We have all the paperwork and details for everything. This is simply a case of a company running out of money and not selling enough products.
Who is Greg Manning? The mystery investor you mentioned was cutting ties with you in December? Did you use the funds to pay him back, you said it was around £8k he wanted so what happened to him, did you use customers funds to pay him his investment back? What about Delia? Either way Mark you are full of shit, I am obtaining their details soon and will speak to them direct.
9. I personally have no money. My other business has also gone bust at the same time. I am struggling to put food on the table for my children. You can DOX me (my information freely available on the net), sue me or visit my house. It doesn’t change the fact that there is no money. I don’t own a house or any other assets personally. If there was a way I could have sorted this out from my own money, I would have. I had/have no interest in ripping anyone off; I simply do not have any options open to me to resolve this. Closing the company was my last point of action.
I look forward to discussing this in person at court, you have lied lied and lied continuously, but you clearly can not remember your lies, luckily I recorded all conversations and kept every email and PM from you
10. We are not hiding any Bitcoin or Litecoin.
Customers, if you sent Mark any funds after November please state below or PM me. It appears Mark is digging an even bigger whole for himself. Finally, when you login to www.coinographic.com, it states very clear that the company is in liquidation. This is a lie, and it is illegal to claim a company is in liquidation when you have not appointed an insolvency practitioner, this is classified as fraud. No IP has been appointed, Coinographic states this in order to scare away people from taking action. An IP costs anywhere from £5-10k on average
I wanted to post to address a couple of the issues raised and try my best to answer them;
1. We have not appointed a liquidator for the simple reason we cannot afford one. We have posted a link so that anyone can request a wind-up order for our company. At that point a liquidator will be appointed. We have no liquidator information to post because there isn’t one as yet.
so you want us to pay to wind up your business?
2. We do have some stock but not as many as people think. All we have in our hands are 1ltc coins. The silver coins are being retained by the coin manufacture. The coins we are holding will be given to a liquidator should one be appointed. We also have a lot of boxes, holograms & proto-type coins as assets.
so what happened to the 45 bull, 29 chickun and 38 LA coins you emailed me about in Jan?i offered to buy them off you when you emailed me and said they were in stock? Did you sell them? Did you sell them to Charles Lee like you said you would? If so where are those funds?
3. We have shut everything down because we can no longer operate as a company and have exhausted all possibilities of trying to raise capital to make things right. Neither the company nor I own a single Bitcoin or Litecoin
i am confused, where did all the coins people send you go? Let's be honest mark the only mold you had made was the 5BTC coin and that was finished before people sent you lots of funds.
4. Since we announced our problems we have not sold a single coin, we did not accept any orders that we knew we were not going to be able to fill.
Bullshit - Mark do you forget our conversations on the phone, the emails you sent, luckily I recorded them all -- you have been having problems since what November? Are you saying I didn't make payments at a time you knew you were not going to be able to fill - where did these coins go Mark. You may as well share this info here as you will have to share it in court - by the way I have requested judgement be made in person at the court so I can provide evidence in person and Mark there is a lot of it building up. EVERYONE who sent Mark funds after November please post below
5. Any monies received for pre-orders of the bitcoin collection were invested into the company and the production of those coins. We paid for molds, dies, prototypes, boxes, holograms, competitions, designs, website, advertising, hosting, office costs, and internet as well as many other associated costs. I personally invested much more of my own personal money into this project then was ever received in orders.
Mark, did you also not fail to pay your designer? You do realise you will have to evidence these costs referred to above in court, I am pretty sure the amount you have received in BTC and LTC a will exceed these. By the way your office in Western doesn't exist, neither of them do - one is a virtual office and the other next door to the gift shop well let's just say I spoke with the landlord and shop manager.
6. Support for our product was very low since the company started. We have had no more then 30-40 customers since the company started last April.
7. We never kept any private key information. Redeem your coins if you wish to or can’t trust that fact.
8. No fraud has taken place here. Every penny received can be accounted for in costs. We have all the paperwork and details for everything. This is simply a case of a company running out of money and not selling enough products.
Who is Greg Manning? The mystery investor you mentioned was cutting ties with you in December? Did you use the funds to pay him back, you said it was around £8k he wanted so what happened to him, did you use customers funds to pay him his investment back? What about Delia? Either way Mark you are full of shit, I am obtaining their details soon and will speak to them direct.
9. I personally have no money. My other business has also gone bust at the same time. I am struggling to put food on the table for my children. You can DOX me (my information freely available on the net), sue me or visit my house. It doesn’t change the fact that there is no money. I don’t own a house or any other assets personally. If there was a way I could have sorted this out from my own money, I would have. I had/have no interest in ripping anyone off; I simply do not have any options open to me to resolve this. Closing the company was my last point of action.
I look forward to discussing this in person at court, you have lied lied and lied continuously, but you clearly can not remember your lies, luckily I recorded all conversations and kept every email and PM from you
10. We are not hiding any Bitcoin or Litecoin.
Customers, if you sent Mark any funds after November please state below or PM me. It appears Mark is digging an even bigger whole for himself. Finally, when you login to www.coinographic.com, it states very clear that the company is in liquidation. This is a lie, and it is illegal to claim a company is in liquidation when you have not appointed an insolvency practitioner, this is classified as fraud. No IP has been appointed, Coinographic states this in order to scare away people from taking action. An IP costs anywhere from £5-10k on average
sounds OK.
