Topic: coinpayments.net (Read 270 times)

Generally merchants accepting micropayments use To Balance mode so it goes to their CoinPayments Wallet, that way it is a ledger entry versus being sent on-blockchain with a TX fee.

I note that they're quite happy to accept that amount as a payment and then forward it on to a merchant.

I note that they're quite happy to accept that amount as a payment and then forward it on to a merchant. Surely, with their "fee rates", they wouldn't be able to send the money to the merchant either! Roll Eyes

Refund Policy - Tiny Amounts
For a refund to be honored it must be at least the network transaction fee (TX fee) for that coin times two, otherwise it will be forfeited.

We currently subsidize Bitcoin withdrawals so you pay a flat TX fee of 0.00050000 instead of the full TX fee.

It's fairly obvious from the PaymentID that their systems says it timed out... it's also fairly obvious from the TXID (and Send To address) that the address was sent 0.00064 (which they have since spent!)

Unfortunately that is too small of an amount to refund since the coin TX fee to send it to you would be more than the refund amount. Make sure you have read the Tiny Refunds section of our ToS.

Ticket: https://coinpay.freshdesk.com/helpdesk/tickets/61001

Mr. Data - Technical Support

Also, you've given them the wrong txid... you've given them the one for the 0.00065 amount, that confirmed and was paid to vpscheap.net right?

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I suggest you log a support ticket with coinpayments.net then... it would appear they certainly don't make it easy tho...

You have to go through their terrible support wizard here: https://www.coinpayments.net/supwiz and answer a couple of questions (click the answers that say "this didn't answer my question" and "not resolved") to get the "support code"... otherwise they say they will just automatically close your ticket

Then give them any payment IDs, transaction IDs, merchant details etc... and ask them why there is no refund when the email said the payment had timed out.

If that doesn't work, then I'd suggest trying to get their attention on twitter...https://twitter.com/CoinPaymentsNET

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1:00 PM (3 hours ago)
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RE: Payment ID or Address: CPCG7PVIEZPISKTAAQZKR8KHEP:

You provided us with a transaction that did not receive any funds and has timed out. Because there were no funds sent no refund is due or if funds were received after the timeout and a refund was available you have already claimed it. If you wish to make a purchase with the merchant, you will have to make the purchase again using the merchant's website. Please make sure to read all email alerts from our system as they inform you every step of the transaction.

There are however a few exceptions:
Double check your transaction numbers and payment addresses, a common error is creating two transactions. Paying for one and not the other. Make sure to check the transaction ID's to the payment addresses you sent to.
If you are sending your coins from an exchange they may not have sent the funds yet. So please check with your exchange to see if it was processed; if it was, you can provide us with the blockchain txid and we can look for it, as long as it was sent to our wallets.
If your coins have not yet confirmed (such as if you didn't pay any/enough TX fee), you should still receive an automatic email after they have confirmed. If you haven't received an email 8 hours AFTER your coins confirm you can reply to this ticket with a refund address and we can send them back to you.
The other would be is, if you are sending from a wallet is not synced, you will have to wait for the client to catch up and send the payment. If it does send, you can provide us with the txid for it as well, and we can look into it, as long as it is sent to our wallets.

Support Code. You must include a support code or your ticket will be closed automatically, you can obtain one at https://www.coinpayments.net/supwiz

It would seem that your issue isn't really with coinpayments.net... but with vpscheap.net.

As per the response from coinpayments.net, if the merchant (ie. vpscheap.net) has not included your email in the API, then there will be no refund showing as due to your account.

I'd suggest you contact vpscheap.net and ask them to explain.

I followed the link and get the answer

You send Bitcoin to vpscheap.net but you are claiming to pr0d1gy . Can we know reason why you mention him a scammer without evidence ?

From your message I can see mistake is your. Your transferd amount is 0.00064 but requirement was 0.00065 btc. That means they will not receive your payment. Because vpscheap.net used coinpayment API to receive fund. Coinpayment API system is different from others. After genarate address there is a limits of time and fund should be accurate. If you send fund after timeout than fund will not receive by coinpayment. If you send fund less or higher than fund will not receive. Whatever wallet you used that's not fact. Problem is with API that are you using. In this case payment will refund to you, they will send a refund link to your mail. Some time if you didn't check refund link than it's not possible to refund. Some times happens this. Better you contact with vpscheap.net .

Scam report example:

What happened::
I saw escrow.ms's lolipop thread 4 days ago and placed a order for 1000 lolipops. After I sent him payment, he just went offline and never came back. I think he's a big liar and a scam artist. Stay away from him.

Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/escrowms-76380

Reference Link:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/selling-1000-lolipops-for-2-bitcoins-260070

Amount Scammed: 2 BTC/$176.40
Payment Method: Bitcoins
Proof of Payment:
http://blockchain.info/tx/b80f35cebae98fcbd8eb0e2eaea6def41f90ad01086ad830ba23094ac3c3b165

PM/Chat Logs: https://i.imgur.com/8UbLVSc.png
Additional Notes: I advise you to not deal with this user until this dispute is resolved.

Your payment of 0.00065000 BTC to vpscheap has timed out without us receiving the required funds.
The transaction with ID CPCG7PVIEZPISKTAAQZKR8KHEP has been cancelled.

If you sent funds that didn't confirm in time to complete the transaction, they will still need to confirmation on the blockchain before we can return them to you. Only after it has been confirmed on the blockchain will you receive an email within 8 hours with a link to claim the refund.

If you don't receive the email 8 hours AFTER getting confirmations or need any help or assistance feel free to contact us at https://www.coinpayments.net/help-support

CoinPayments.net

No refunds are available for this payment at this time. You may have already claimed them or if your transaction hasn't confirmed on the blockchain it won't be available until AFTER it confirms. This can also happen if the merchant is using our API and didn't include your email in the API call.

If you feel this is in error continue to post a support ticket below...