Topic: Cointelpro Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum (Read 3462 times)
March 03, 2016, 06:16:21 PM
Saul Alinsky’s 13 Rules For Radicals That The Globalists Are Using To Divide & Conquer
The Rules
1. “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood.
2. “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.
3. “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.
4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.
6. “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.
7. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news.
8. “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.
9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.
10. “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.” It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.
11. “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.
12. “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.
13. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals
February 04, 2016, 02:36:13 PM
I'm 100% positive these techniques are regularly put into action here. I'm also pretty positive civilians are doing it for free for their own warped reasons.
February 04, 2016, 01:44:11 PM
bump
don't let this thread die
don't let this thread die
February 04, 2016, 09:49:31 AM
Forum-slide countering Bump. Its very obvious that this happens everywhere in Bitcoin. We just haven't figured out the source. Subversion within the community is also common. I wish people knew more about it. Upvoting and downvoting habits are very easily gamed and observed every single day on /r/btc and /r/bitcoin on reddit.
Open your eyes people. Keep bumping this post.
Mod: pls sticky.
Open your eyes people. Keep bumping this post.
Mod: pls sticky.
This is why when we spoke of reddit I was unsure if it was a viable market because of this precise reason.
February 03, 2016, 09:08:47 AM
I got busted secret agent here 
February 03, 2016, 07:22:27 AM
Forum-slide countering Bump. Its very obvious that this happens everywhere in Bitcoin. We just haven't figured out the source. Subversion within the community is also common. I wish people knew more about it. Upvoting and downvoting habits are very easily gamed and observed every single day on /r/btc and /r/bitcoin on reddit.
Open your eyes people. Keep bumping this post.
Mod: pls sticky.
Open your eyes people. Keep bumping this post.
Mod: pls sticky.
I've figured out the source, it's the Tavistock Institute.
February 03, 2016, 07:02:23 AM
Forum-slide countering Bump. Its very obvious that this happens everywhere in Bitcoin. We just haven't figured out the source. Subversion within the community is also common. I wish people knew more about it. Upvoting and downvoting habits are very easily gamed and observed every single day on /r/btc and /r/bitcoin on reddit.
Open your eyes people. Keep bumping this post.
Mod: pls sticky.
Open your eyes people. Keep bumping this post.
Mod: pls sticky.
January 14, 2016, 10:47:03 AM
We should seriously start paying attention to the shills that contaminate this forum, I'm pretty sure each one of us already dealt with them before
January 09, 2016, 09:58:58 AM
there was this guy on the irc chat trying to convince people that the only way to become a major Bitcoin company is by hiring an internet army that shills for you throughout the web. He was saying there already are companies that do this, like ViralShadow or PlusMarketing
imho paid posters are used not only by governments or... you know... Zionist organizations (think about the infamous JIDF), but they are pretty much the standard for big corps
from viralshadow.com's website
https://i.imgur.com/jt5K9h4.png
imho paid posters are used not only by governments or... you know... Zionist organizations (think about the infamous JIDF), but they are pretty much the standard for big corps
from viralshadow.com's website
https://i.imgur.com/jt5K9h4.png
We live in a fake World
January 08, 2016, 12:25:24 PM
A forum is a way to expose the criminal Zionists and the NWO. I hope people starting wake up.
January 08, 2016, 12:12:10 PM
As long as you remember those points:
- No one is your friend on any forum
- There is 99.9% no need to reply to private message invitations
- Only be passionate about your own threads
- Act and communicate on a forum the way you would in real life
- A forum is not a free psychological therapy session to exorcise your personal demons
- Be a gentleman to everyone, no matter how strong the disdain you may have against their viewpoint
- Don't forget millions of people can barely eat everyday while you remake the world typing away on your latest generation smart phone
January 08, 2016, 09:10:49 AM
there was this guy on the irc chat trying to convince people that the only way to become a major Bitcoin company is by hiring an internet army that shills for you throughout the web. He was saying there already are companies that do this, like ViralShadow or PlusMarketing. Maybe bullshi*, maybe there is some truth
anyway imho paid posters are used not only by governments or... you know... Zionist organizations (think about the infamous JIDF), but they are pretty much the standard for big corps
from viralshadow.com's website
anyway imho paid posters are used not only by governments or... you know... Zionist organizations (think about the infamous JIDF), but they are pretty much the standard for big corps
from viralshadow.com's website
January 08, 2016, 08:53:39 AM
Well, actually there is one very rock solid consistency. Stupidity is always very consistent, especially since it´s incurable. But unfortunately for the cointel operators that´s probably not the quality they need from the staff.
January 08, 2016, 08:49:06 AM
Dilution, misdirection, distraction. It´s nothing new, has always followed human interaction.
I don´t doubt that there´s some cointel going on but although the theory of it may look straightforward the actual practice is probably more difficult. To keep up a good act you need consistency. Face it; that is not exactly a dominating quality in our time. If you slip people will quickly see through your games.
I don´t doubt that there´s some cointel going on but although the theory of it may look straightforward the actual practice is probably more difficult. To keep up a good act you need consistency. Face it; that is not exactly a dominating quality in our time. If you slip people will quickly see through your games.
January 08, 2016, 08:48:37 AM
I'm not a guy for conspiracies, but after all we are against the government and the banking system. We could even be labeled as terrorists in the future
what do you think? Did you ever see any of these techniques in action?
They are likely used by multiple agencies and parties simultaneously.what do you think? Did you ever see any of these techniques in action?
One clearly identifiable situation would be the "Jew Hater" posts.
January 08, 2016, 08:34:25 AM
I'm not a guy for conspiracies, but after all we are against the government and the banking system. We could even be labeled as terrorists in the future
what do you think? Did you ever see any of these techniques in action?
what do you think? Did you ever see any of these techniques in action?
So what?
January 08, 2016, 08:18:48 AM
I'm not a guy for conspiracies, but after all we are against the government and the banking system. We could even be labeled as terrorists in the future
what do you think? Did you ever see any of these techniques in action?
what do you think? Did you ever see any of these techniques in action?
January 08, 2016, 08:16:20 AM
COINTELPRO Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum.
https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
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Technique #1 - 'FORUM SLIDING'
If a very sensitive posting of a critical nature has been posted on a forum - it can be quickly removed from public view by 'forum sliding.' In this technique a number of unrelated posts are quietly prepositioned on the forum and allowed to 'age.' Each of these misdirectional forum postings can then be called upon at will to trigger a 'forum slide.' The second requirement is that several fake accounts exist, which can be called upon, to ensure that this technique is not exposed to the public. To trigger a 'forum slide' and 'flush' the critical post out of public view it is simply a matter of logging into each account both real and fake and then 'replying' to prepositined postings with a simple 1 or 2 line comment. This brings the unrelated postings to the top of the forum list, and the critical posting 'slides' down the front page, and quickly out of public view. Although it is difficult or impossible to censor the posting it is now lost in a sea of unrelated and unuseful postings. By this means it becomes effective to keep the readers of the forum reading unrelated and non-issue items.
Technique #2 - 'CONSENSUS CRACKING'
A second highly effective technique (which you can see in operation all the time at www.abovetopsecret.com) is 'consensus cracking.' To develop a consensus crack, the following technique is used. Under the guise of a fake account a posting is made which looks legitimate and is towards the truth is made - but the critical point is that it has a VERY WEAK PREMISE without substantive proof to back the posting. Once this is done then under alternative fake accounts a very strong position in your favour is slowly introduced over the life of the posting. It is IMPERATIVE that both sides are initially presented, so the uninformed reader cannot determine which side is the truth. As postings and replies are made the stronger 'evidence' or disinformation in your favour is slowly 'seeded in.' Thus the uninformed reader will most like develop the same position as you, and if their position is against you their opposition to your posting will be most likely dropped. However in some cases where the forum members are highly educated and can counter your disinformation with real facts and linked postings, you can then 'abort' the consensus cracking by initiating a 'forum slide.'
Technique #3 - 'TOPIC DILUTION'
Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a 'RESOURCE BURN.' By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a 'gossip mode.' In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion. The less informed they are the more effective and easy it becomes to control the entire group in the direction that you would desire the group to go in. It must be stressed that a proper assessment of the psychological capabilities and levels of education is first determined of the group to determine at what level to 'drive in the wedge.' By being too far off topic too quickly it may trigger censorship by a forum moderator.
Technique #4 - 'INFORMATION COLLECTION'
Information collection is also a very effective method to determine the psychological level of the forum members, and to gather intelligence that can be used against them. In this technique in a light and positive environment a 'show you mine so me yours' posting is initiated. From the number of replies and the answers that are provided much statistical information can be gathered. An example is to post your 'favourite weapon' and then encourage other members of the forum to showcase what they have. In this matter it can be determined by reverse proration what percentage of the forum community owns a firearm, and or a illegal weapon. This same method can be used by posing as one of the form members and posting your favourite 'technique of operation.' From the replies various methods that the group utilizes can be studied and effective methods developed to stop them from their activities.
Technique #5 - 'ANGER TROLLING'
Statistically, there is always a percentage of the forum posters who are more inclined to violence. In order to determine who these individuals are, it is a requirement to present a image to the forum to deliberately incite a strong psychological reaction. From this the most violent in the group can be effectively singled out for reverse IP location and possibly local enforcement tracking. To accomplish this only requires posting a link to a video depicting a local police officer massively abusing his power against a very innocent individual. Statistically of the million or so police officers in America there is always one or two being caught abusing there powers and the taping of the activity can be then used for intelligence gathering purposes - without the requirement to 'stage' a fake abuse video. This method is extremely effective, and the more so the more abusive the video can be made to look. Sometimes it is useful to 'lead' the forum by replying to your own posting with your own statement of violent intent, and that you 'do not care what the authorities think!!' inflammation. By doing this and showing no fear it may be more effective in getting the more silent and self-disciplined violent intent members of the forum to slip and post their real intentions. This can be used later in a court of law during prosecution.
Technique #6 - 'GAINING FULL CONTROL'
It is important to also be harvesting and continually maneuvering for a forum moderator position. Once this position is obtained, the forum can then be effectively and quietly controlled by deleting unfavourable postings - and one can eventually steer the forum into complete failure and lack of interest by the general public. This is the 'ultimate victory' as the forum is no longer participated with by the general public and no longer useful in maintaining their freedoms. Depending on the level of control you can obtain, you can deliberately steer a forum into defeat by censoring postings, deleting memberships, flooding, and or accidentally taking the forum offline. By this method the forum can be quickly killed. However it is not always in the interest to kill a forum as it can be converted into a 'honey pot' gathering center to collect and misdirect newcomers and from this point be completely used for your control for your agenda purposes.
CONCLUSION
Remember these techniques are only effective if the forum participants DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THEM. Once they are aware of these techniques the operation can completely fail, and the forum can become uncontrolled. At this point other avenues must be considered such as initiating a false legal precidence to simply have the forum shut down and taken offline. This is not desirable as it then leaves the enforcement agencies unable to track the percentage of those in the population who always resist attempts for control against them. Many other techniques can be utilized and developed by the individual and as you develop further techniques of infiltration and control it is imperative to share then with HQ.
If a very sensitive posting of a critical nature has been posted on a forum - it can be quickly removed from public view by 'forum sliding.' In this technique a number of unrelated posts are quietly prepositioned on the forum and allowed to 'age.' Each of these misdirectional forum postings can then be called upon at will to trigger a 'forum slide.' The second requirement is that several fake accounts exist, which can be called upon, to ensure that this technique is not exposed to the public. To trigger a 'forum slide' and 'flush' the critical post out of public view it is simply a matter of logging into each account both real and fake and then 'replying' to prepositined postings with a simple 1 or 2 line comment. This brings the unrelated postings to the top of the forum list, and the critical posting 'slides' down the front page, and quickly out of public view. Although it is difficult or impossible to censor the posting it is now lost in a sea of unrelated and unuseful postings. By this means it becomes effective to keep the readers of the forum reading unrelated and non-issue items.
Technique #2 - 'CONSENSUS CRACKING'
A second highly effective technique (which you can see in operation all the time at www.abovetopsecret.com) is 'consensus cracking.' To develop a consensus crack, the following technique is used. Under the guise of a fake account a posting is made which looks legitimate and is towards the truth is made - but the critical point is that it has a VERY WEAK PREMISE without substantive proof to back the posting. Once this is done then under alternative fake accounts a very strong position in your favour is slowly introduced over the life of the posting. It is IMPERATIVE that both sides are initially presented, so the uninformed reader cannot determine which side is the truth. As postings and replies are made the stronger 'evidence' or disinformation in your favour is slowly 'seeded in.' Thus the uninformed reader will most like develop the same position as you, and if their position is against you their opposition to your posting will be most likely dropped. However in some cases where the forum members are highly educated and can counter your disinformation with real facts and linked postings, you can then 'abort' the consensus cracking by initiating a 'forum slide.'
Technique #3 - 'TOPIC DILUTION'
Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a 'RESOURCE BURN.' By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a 'gossip mode.' In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion. The less informed they are the more effective and easy it becomes to control the entire group in the direction that you would desire the group to go in. It must be stressed that a proper assessment of the psychological capabilities and levels of education is first determined of the group to determine at what level to 'drive in the wedge.' By being too far off topic too quickly it may trigger censorship by a forum moderator.
Technique #4 - 'INFORMATION COLLECTION'
Information collection is also a very effective method to determine the psychological level of the forum members, and to gather intelligence that can be used against them. In this technique in a light and positive environment a 'show you mine so me yours' posting is initiated. From the number of replies and the answers that are provided much statistical information can be gathered. An example is to post your 'favourite weapon' and then encourage other members of the forum to showcase what they have. In this matter it can be determined by reverse proration what percentage of the forum community owns a firearm, and or a illegal weapon. This same method can be used by posing as one of the form members and posting your favourite 'technique of operation.' From the replies various methods that the group utilizes can be studied and effective methods developed to stop them from their activities.
Technique #5 - 'ANGER TROLLING'
Statistically, there is always a percentage of the forum posters who are more inclined to violence. In order to determine who these individuals are, it is a requirement to present a image to the forum to deliberately incite a strong psychological reaction. From this the most violent in the group can be effectively singled out for reverse IP location and possibly local enforcement tracking. To accomplish this only requires posting a link to a video depicting a local police officer massively abusing his power against a very innocent individual. Statistically of the million or so police officers in America there is always one or two being caught abusing there powers and the taping of the activity can be then used for intelligence gathering purposes - without the requirement to 'stage' a fake abuse video. This method is extremely effective, and the more so the more abusive the video can be made to look. Sometimes it is useful to 'lead' the forum by replying to your own posting with your own statement of violent intent, and that you 'do not care what the authorities think!!' inflammation. By doing this and showing no fear it may be more effective in getting the more silent and self-disciplined violent intent members of the forum to slip and post their real intentions. This can be used later in a court of law during prosecution.
Technique #6 - 'GAINING FULL CONTROL'
It is important to also be harvesting and continually maneuvering for a forum moderator position. Once this position is obtained, the forum can then be effectively and quietly controlled by deleting unfavourable postings - and one can eventually steer the forum into complete failure and lack of interest by the general public. This is the 'ultimate victory' as the forum is no longer participated with by the general public and no longer useful in maintaining their freedoms. Depending on the level of control you can obtain, you can deliberately steer a forum into defeat by censoring postings, deleting memberships, flooding, and or accidentally taking the forum offline. By this method the forum can be quickly killed. However it is not always in the interest to kill a forum as it can be converted into a 'honey pot' gathering center to collect and misdirect newcomers and from this point be completely used for your control for your agenda purposes.
CONCLUSION
Remember these techniques are only effective if the forum participants DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THEM. Once they are aware of these techniques the operation can completely fail, and the forum can become uncontrolled. At this point other avenues must be considered such as initiating a false legal precidence to simply have the forum shut down and taken offline. This is not desirable as it then leaves the enforcement agencies unable to track the percentage of those in the population who always resist attempts for control against them. Many other techniques can be utilized and developed by the individual and as you develop further techniques of infiltration and control it is imperative to share then with HQ.
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