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Military Disqualifications

The military has an extensive list that will disqualify you from joining. The various sections of the military are different and there is always the potential to receive a waiver that will allow you to join. Basically the military wants people that are mentally and physically sound and of high moral character. Like all employers the military really knows the type of person that best fits their organizations and if you are disqualified for any reason you will want to think and discuss this with the your enlistment officer and your family and think carefully about whether you should really get a waiver to join.

Enlistment standards for joining the military include:

    Citizenship. You must be a US citizen or be a permanent immigrant with a green card.

    Age. No one younger than 17 and older than 42 may enlist. Each section of the military also has its own specific guidelines.

    Credit and finances. You must not have serious amounts of debt or have a history of credit issues.

    Single parents and applicants with dependents are usually disqualified. If you have dependents at all, you will need to show adequate support for them. If you are married to a military member and have children, you will be unable to join.

    Education. Applicants generally must have a high school diploma. In some cases a GED is accepted, and in very rare cases people without schooling are accepted.
    Drug and alcohol dependency, use or involvement can disqualify you.

    Medical disqualifications. Any serious mental or physical illness or trait can disqualify you from joining. You must be physically fit.
    Criminal history. Any offense that results in conviction is usually disqualifying.

    Sexual conduct. Deviant sexual behavior will disqualify you from joining.

    Height standards. You must be between 60-80 inches tall for men and 58-72 inches tall for women.

The military can also reject you for any other reason not listed above. Remember: serving is a privilege; not a right.

http://www.militaryauthority.com/wiki/joining-the-military/military-disqualifications.html


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Sounds like President "Up Like Trump!" was 110% right. Good for him.

Frankly, just because the liberal community and it's gay fascist subset decided to loudly proclaim rights of transgenders starting about two years ago, does not mean it's actually an important issue.

It's not important, in terms of the numbers of people affected or the interests of society.

Bottom line--no reason for a press conference.

Just a tweet does fine.

Bottom line--these are human beings, and these decisions have real implications. Have the decency to at least call a press conference and sound sincere. Yet another tweet that should never have been made. Didn't even do the Army and the Joint chiefs the decency of warning them he'd be tweeting up a storm again.

Not just in Afghanistan, but all around the world. Even now the American army is full of perverts, as seen from incidents such as the Abu Ghraib prison scandal and the rape of Abeer Qassim Hamza al-Janabi.

Zoophiles could be an asset when deployed in deep, deep, deep, deep undercover missions in Afghanistan. 

No matter the brain and reasons behind the decision to ban transgenders from serving the motherland is sure a form of discrimination what I would have expected is for the government to hands off their special treatment because that would be unfair to the straight guys who would be encouraged to go that path because of the special treatment they enjoy. The moment that is settled anyone who wishes to still be in the military would do so on his own accord while others will willingly retire or resign to pursue other endeavors rather than setting the country on another round of protest via Twitter.

Your iq is too low to understand what i wrote... watch the last survivor and then we may discuss. Until then watch your leftist/marxist agenda unravelled. It was time... longer it could start to brig lasting damages.

Until a couple of years ago, gays and lesbians were not recruited in to the American military. But the PC brigade had their way, and they had them included. The next is transgenders. And after that it will be pedophiles and the zoophiles.

I may need this soon if I keep reading complaints of transgender people about how discriminated they are. What if I want to be a cyborg, because I've always felt that I'm not a male or a female, but a robot. Dear president, please finance my transplants or be called robofobic! So many young cyborgs would like to serve their country and you're denying them!


Has suicidal tendencies, joins the army to get free boob implants!  

He can have a larger army or people defending the country and he does this, he is so stupid.

The army is no place for transgender people. The military should deal with their direct duties of protecting the state. I highly doubt that transgender people will undergo psychological tests required for military service. If I had my way I would have added to the list of prohibitions for gays and lesbians.

How dafuq are you blaming Obama and the left for this?!?

You understand this is entirely right-wing policy... right?

No "leftist" would be in favor of such a thing... ever

Congress is 100% controlled by republicans, and we have a republican president who made a horrible decision... how do you blame that on Obama and democrats?!?

I bet that by looking a little behind the curtail of those pink facscists there are the same individual pushing for the white genocide using mass colonization by migrants...

The American military is already full of gays and lesbians. Perhaps Trump is right in deciding that the transsexuals doesn't deserve a place there. If transsexuals are recruited in to the army, then they will start drama by agitating for their right to enter women's rest-room, while flashing their dicks. This can't be allowed in the military.

Lady Gaga explaining why President Trump was right...

https://i.imgur.com/Eu9BRSC.png

There's a new type of laser eye surgery where the cornea is replaced with a corrective lens, and this eliminates the need to wear glasses. It's about $8000 USD, and it isn't covered by insurance.

I can list a lot of things that are not covered by insurance.

The only reason this discussion exists about trans is because of heavy pressure by the Pink Fascists arm of the Democratic Party.

I think it comes from conformism that is expected in most university curriculum... tell them that in a infinite universe ressources can't be limited and warch from low iq physisists to eco what ever and watch their little mind explode in pathetic goo of trained neuropaterns... worthless. One funny doc in physic told me but we haven't been to space... lol fucker solar energy and the moon landing...

Anyway useful idiots, as their propaganda can't to nothing against the mercantile empire. They attempt to fight the $hapeless, ever changing, constantly raiding and defending while simulteanously inversing...

What i find fun about education is that even if the army is ultra conformist and traditionalist there is super ultimate freedom! Why? Because there is ultimaetly to apprehend the unknow, from the self to disturbsnce in the group and the schemes of the ennemy. Always where is the tank? Somewhere or msybe there was never a tank...

Ahh and the idiots don't stand a chance because the market is designed to fullfil the wants of those still holding money... while the leftists don't even understsnd this notion. The market raise individuals (like the army) while the collectivists lower the group for the benefits of a few... they never ate so much caviar in moskow than during soviet union...

All kinds of leftists and interventionists are the main threat to the US and EU. Some of them already identify themselves as intellectual marxists (I'm realy disappointed that most of them have universitu degree, it shows the level of crrent higher education) but the next ant the bigest  part identify themselves as liberals while pushing leftist ideas. All of them are pretty similar to russian communists with 1 difference. The working class is already fine with capitalism and leftists have to fight for someone else's rights, they need to find a victim even if there was no crime. Unfortunately this time the typical victim have a face of transgender lesbian muslim immigrant etc.

Hello Welcome to you (i profit of the anove reply) to answer you! I like your username:)

1. Same, no way! It's their own business. Furthermore using the armed force to get their operations is fundamentally wrong and a robbery of the tax payers

2. Exactly like darkangel11, their own business.

Then i agree with the remarks about sports (bone density, muscular fiber type,, testosterone lvl etc).

Then you can add the war on children... with hypersexualization, let the children be.


Thanks for bringing sanity back!


LOL you don't get how it works. I explain: dear warriors are you happy with this decision? Yes/no if no okay let's  make changes. Better? Yes/no until happy:). You have lost, but don't worry it's just the beginning... if i may say your lines have been breached, your bunker is in sight and there is nothing in between... what will you decide? There is no exit.


So true thanks! My remark is principally on what i would call honorably discharge, to pay tribute to the transgender warriors even so those that went with intention to use tax payers funds, because the nation is grateful. My point is specially to officially thanks them, with all dignity for their services!

Trump with all respect got it wrong on this one, i support some of decisions but you cant discriminate due to sexuality, race,religion or anything in the entire world, they have the right to serve the nation as everyone else. By doing this Trump is effectively telling all transgenders that they are not citizens of the USA.

1. No, of course.
2. The transgender person should pay for it. It's not a health issue, it's more like a plastic surgery. You want to change your body, do it with your own money!

Now, the transgender movement is something really strange, because these people modify their bodies to look like members of an opposite sex. It's actually getting ridiculous, because transgender men are taking part in sports competition for women and beating them. Somebody should tell them that cutting your dick off and changing your name doesn't make you a woman!

While I'll have to disagree with some on the twitter annoncment, as this is the only means of President Trump to be able to get his voice out there -- his unmasked one that advisors, the media, leakers and so on are going to distort. So he's using his own medium to deliver news -- no problem with that.

I do agree with the decision as well, it's a pretty simple one when you think about it -- the military isn't a place for this, taxpayers shouldn't be paying for these treatments just due to them joining the military and it seems as if we'd have to be catering to them in the military. Costing the taxpayer more and more on a military which is already grossly expensive. Imagine the bathrooms that have to be built, treatments paid for, etc etc.

I agree!

Regarding the form, it seems clear to me that announcing this over Twitter was completely inappropriate. However, content-wise, I have 2 questions for you guys.

I heard transgender-related medical expenses amounted to approximately $8 million. I researched the origin of that number and found this:

Source = NBC News

1st QUESTION : Do you think the Military Health System is the right organisation to pay for such expenses, whether it is expensive or not?

2nd QUESTION: Do you think there should be other organisms to pay for these operations? I mean should these expenses be paid by the transgender individual or should they be funded by the collectivity?


Thank you for your input! Have a good one


PS: This was my first post! I'm very happy to join the community!

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Says WHO? Maybe they're not doing good jobs. Maybe they're NOT intelligent or courageous. Maybe those around them DO find them to be disruptive.

Also if women are excluded from various combat jobs or missions, why should not trans also be?

I was so disappointed with President Trump's comment because the way he's doing something is just like descriminating someone specifically gays, transgender, lesbian and even queers. It is not good that President Trump will going eliminate those transgender in their military job which is very disrespectful because it is just like saying that these transgender will not doing good well in fact most of them is very intelligent and courageous to face any circumstances in life. Gender is not a problem anymore but what matter is your ability to do something great with their fellow individual and that's what LGBT community wants and most especially they should respected not only they are professionals but because they are humans.

I do think that it is quite a balant lack of respect.

What ever the motives, this twitter annoncement is very badly done. Where is the respect? Mr trump should clearly understand that it's NOT the private sector. There fire like you want, evacuation with security, badge not working after lunch. I don't care.

Here those citizens accepted to take risks for the usa. And just for that must be treated with respect. Those tweets may be clear, but it's not the appropriate way in my opinion. They derserve better. A formal annoncement.

Then concerning the decision. My opinion is very simple, and contrary to the obamaists and sjw, the decision isn't a political one. What is the opinions of those serving? Is it a problem to have transgenders in the amry.

After watching the last survivor or the sniper movies or save private ryan it's clear to me that it's not optimal. I take the example of gender neutral toilets in the new aircraft carriers... wtf.

There should be not other issues than being ready to defeat the opponents. As such any problematic sjw issues should be removed.

Key word unit cohesion. Watch the last survivor... or mr bigs from infowars. He seems happy with it. Good.

For those affected there is so many ways to serve the country... look at the homeless...

But again this a clear illustration of the damage that leftists sjw obamaists did to this country. Always trying to create dissention, problems, and most of them are decoy. Watch the toilets, transgender blah blah... meanwhile the real massive problem are swept under the carpet to allow the looters and traitors space.

The usa is at war, and the ennemy isn't those vicious nasty russians, but the domestic ones... whose goal is to destroy the usa. All those sjw crap are just tools for them to achieve the aim of pullong down the usa.

You can say what ever bad you want about russian or chinese troops, but they are all flaged, easy and proud to be seen.

Then another question? Why are physical tests different for men or women? What this crap with the femal air force pilot?!? I read about the guys over afghanistan that went mad after flying continuously for days... please one woman taking a seat, is a seat less for a man. Of course to fly easy there is not much difference... watch the movie pearl harbor... after the attacks on the bases, i bet on men.

But the ennemies of the usa fear the most is a coherent cohesive army... what will happen when gmo/toxin effects of industrial "food", pediatric cancers explosion and co will be understood?

The ennemy hates the usa and want it down.

Anyway difficult subject, what do think? Badly done with twitter or not?