Topic: Common law only exists because civil law backs it... (Read 663 times)
I don't really agree with this. Common law exists since the fall of man In my opinion even in Cain and Abel's time. Well I think that it's the opposite. Civil law only exists because common law backs it. So in short Civil law isn't obeyed because some people don't follow the common law too. And that I think is the truth and will always be.
Exactly the opposite.
When there was the first family - Adam and Eve and Cain and Abel - there was only common law... law common among the people. Then, after the world became populated enough that some of the cousins didn't know each other well enough, they formed civil law by agreement so that they could work together without the problems of having to over-think what their relationship was to each other. The leaders made money, then.
When governments break down, common law still stands. It is often unwritten law that people informally agree on locally.
When there was the first family - Adam and Eve and Cain and Abel - there was only common law... law common among the people. Then, after the world became populated enough that some of the cousins didn't know each other well enough, they formed civil law by agreement so that they could work together without the problems of having to over-think what their relationship was to each other. The leaders made money, then.
When governments break down, common law still stands. It is often unwritten law that people informally agree on locally.
I agree that this was God's original plan and ideal for humankind.
Unfortunately, Adam and Eve separated from God and didn't obey his commandments.
As result, we don't have any more one family lineage, language, nation, tradition, culture etc.
Instead of love evil came to the world and created division between people and great chaos during the history.
As result, we have now many different countries, religions, cultures and traditions, and they are all in conflict because they don't know our Heavenly Father and can't look other people as brothers and sisters.
So, common laws really exist in our minds, in our spirits but because of evil history it's covered with a lot layers of evil history, hatred, selfishness, greed etc.
Common law only works for people who sincerely try to obey the Ten Commandments. The more that people are wicked and evil, the less common law will work for them, and the more civil law will take its place.
To find the best civil law/common law government combination for today (for any nation), take the laws in Exodus and Deuteronomy, and remove the Ceremonial Law from them.
Exactly the opposite.
When there was the first family - Adam and Eve and Cain and Abel - there was only common law... law common among the people. Then, after the world became populated enough that some of the cousins didn't know each other well enough, they formed civil law by agreement so that they could work together without the problems of having to over-think what their relationship was to each other. The leaders made money, then.
When governments break down, common law still stands. It is often unwritten law that people informally agree on locally.
When there was the first family - Adam and Eve and Cain and Abel - there was only common law... law common among the people. Then, after the world became populated enough that some of the cousins didn't know each other well enough, they formed civil law by agreement so that they could work together without the problems of having to over-think what their relationship was to each other. The leaders made money, then.
When governments break down, common law still stands. It is often unwritten law that people informally agree on locally.
I agree that this was God's original plan and ideal for humankind.
Unfortunately, Adam and Eve separated from God and didn't obey his commandments.
As result, we don't have any more one family lineage, language, nation, tradition, culture etc.
Instead of love evil came to the world and created division between people and great chaos during the history.
As result, we have now many different countries, religions, cultures and traditions, and they are all in conflict because they don't know our Heavenly Father and can't look other people as brothers and sisters.
So, common laws really exist in our minds, in our spirits but because of evil history it's covered with a lot layers of evil history, hatred, selfishness, greed etc.
yes it is a fact that without citizenship there is no security. the foreign countries have always so much harsh rules and regulation about the the foreigner countries. so i think it is better to stay in your own home land and avoid visiting foreigner countries specially for work.
This is exactly where rebellions come from. Why? Because most civil governments wind up not being civil towards their people. So the people get together in neighborhood groups, which unite to overthrow government.
Smart criminals get into government and become government officials. They do this so they can rob, steal and plunder legally. The do it legally by making make the laws that people should obey. People see through it after a while. It is civil war when only some of the people see through government.
And rape young children on private islands... Then those people in power will use like the Greeks before them all sort of warfare to dumb down the population until they accept their slavemastermentality... However as always by weakening the people and rendering them unable to raise against the military enablers forces... A enemy will come from the outside... And will laugh at how structurally weak the corrupt society has become... Or it could be a natural event. In all cases corruption weaken and add fragility to the system... But corrupt and deviants thrive in the weakness... You see there is no hope for them. They increase fragility... The only question will it be a foreign human intervention or an act of nature that will dust the sand castle? And that explain you why they have to globalize corruption... At least human weakness will be spread worldwide... Increasing even more the fragility toward a natural event ;-)
A couple of decades ago, there was a former Interpol agent who came out strongly with the accusation that Interpol, itself, was an international child porn promoting agency, acting like it was trying to protect children. Who was he again?
From Wikipedia at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpol/:
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In July 2010, former Interpol President Jackie Selebi was found guilty of corruption by the South African High Court in Johannesburg for accepting bribes worth €156,000 from a drug trafficker. After being charged in January 2008, Selebi resigned as president of Interpol and was put on extended leave as National Police Commissioner of South Africa.
Ah, found the information. Former Interpol agent, David Race Bannon, wrote a book - Race Against Evil. He describes how Interpol is an international porn ring using the anti-porn theme as a front for its nefarious dealings. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_%22Race%22_Bannon:
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In 2004, the Interpol General Secretariat issued the following statement about Bannon's book:
"Interpol's General Secretariat in Lyon has no record of David Race Bannon having been employed and no knowledge of individuals mentioned in Mr Bannon's book. Interpol exists to facilitate the exchange of information between the world's law enforcement agencies and to provide analysis of criminal data and other services. Accordingly, the claims in Mr Bannon's book can only be seen as deceptive and irresponsible fantasy.
The above disclaimer was distributed to US law enforcement agencies by the US National Central Bureau of Interpol and to other potentially interested parties by the General Secretariat."
Bannon responded to this statement by asserting that the covert nature of his alleged works (including over 100 assassinations) forced Interpol to make such a disavowal of his claims.
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In 2004, the Interpol General Secretariat issued the following statement about Bannon's book:
"Interpol's General Secretariat in Lyon has no record of David Race Bannon having been employed and no knowledge of individuals mentioned in Mr Bannon's book. Interpol exists to facilitate the exchange of information between the world's law enforcement agencies and to provide analysis of criminal data and other services. Accordingly, the claims in Mr Bannon's book can only be seen as deceptive and irresponsible fantasy.
The above disclaimer was distributed to US law enforcement agencies by the US National Central Bureau of Interpol and to other potentially interested parties by the General Secretariat."
Bannon responded to this statement by asserting that the covert nature of his alleged works (including over 100 assassinations) forced Interpol to make such a disavowal of his claims.
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I have no doubt that Bannon is telling the truth, and only plead guilty to avoid assassination, or incarceration, in which he would certainly have been assassinated in prison.
EDIT: An interesting article regarding all this can be found at http://www.childtrafficking.org/cgi-bin/ct/main.sql?file=view_document.sql&FULL_DETAIL=Yes&ID=1156.
yes it is a fact that without citizenship there is no security. the foreign countries have always so much harsh rules and regulation about the the foreigner countries. so i think it is better to stay in your own home land and avoid visiting foreigner countries specially for work.
This is exactly where rebellions come from. Why? Because most civil governments wind up not being civil towards their people. So the people get together in neighborhood groups, which unite to overthrow government.
Smart criminals get into government and become government officials. They do this so they can rob, steal and plunder legally. The do it legally by making make the laws that people should obey. People see through it after a while. It is civil war when only some of the people see through government.
And rape young children on private islands... Then those people in power will use like the Greeks before them all sort of warfare to dumb down the population until they accept their slavemastermentality... However as always by weakening the people and rendering them unable to raise against the military enablers forces... A enemy will come from the outside... And will laugh at how structurally weak the corrupt society has become... Or it could be a natural event. In all cases corruption weaken and add fragility to the system... But corrupt and deviants thrive in the weakness... You see there is no hope for them. They increase fragility... The only question will it be a foreign human intervention or an act of nature that will dust the sand castle? And that explain you why they have to globalize corruption... At least human weakness will be spread worldwide... Increasing even more the fragility toward a natural event ;-)
yes it is a fact that without citizenship there is no security. the foreign countries have always so much harsh rules and regulation about the the foreigner countries. so i think it is better to stay in your own home land and avoid visiting foreigner countries specially for work.
This is exactly where rebellions come from. Why? Because most civil governments wind up not being civil towards their people. So the people get together in neighborhood groups, which unite to overthrow government.
Smart criminals get into government and become government officials. They do this so they can rob, steal and plunder legally. The do it legally by making make the laws that people should obey. People see through it after a while. It is civil war when only some of the people see through government.
yes it is a fact that without citizenship there is no security. the foreign countries have always so much harsh rules and regulation about the the foreigner countries. so i think it is better to stay in your own home land and avoid visiting foreigner countries specially for work.
This is exactly where rebellions come from. Why? Because most civil governments wind up not being civil towards their people. So the people get together in neighborhood groups, which unite to overthrow government.
yes it is a fact that without citizenship there is no security. the foreign countries have always so much harsh rules and regulation about the the foreigner countries. so i think it is better to stay in your own home land and avoid visiting foreigner countries specially for work.
when we are talking about the people of one family or the rules or regulation that we following with in our homes is called common law. and the law which we follow as in society but difference families equally are known as civil law. civil law and common law are interrelated.
Thank you the brilliant explanation. I have no more questions ;-)
Thank you for the thank you.
It is time for the vigilant people of Russia to implement this kind of operation on the Russian Government. This way there won't have to be civil war every time some government idiot tries to make the people do absurd things, like Stalin did.
Get some of your people to study the history of the problems in Great Britain as the common law was being introduce into that country over a period of several hundred years. Look for the "Magna Carta." Then set it up in Russia, and all the other former Soviet Block counties.
They do what they want in Moscow ;-)
Thank you the brilliant explanation. I have no more questions ;-)
Thank you for the thank you.
It is time for the vigilant people of Russia to implement this kind of operation on the Russian Government. This way there won't have to be civil war every time some government idiot tries to make the people do absurd things, like Stalin did.
Get some of your people to study the history of the problems in Great Britain as the common law was being introduce into that country over a period of several hundred years. Look for the "Magna Carta." Then set it up in Russia, and all the other former Soviet Block counties.
Thank you the brilliant explanation. I have no more questions ;-)
Of course I am fishing... But don't worry, I don't use baits nor nets... Just read and forget ;-).
I am curious and thinking that you have a problem with civil law. The problem is that their is fundamentally 2 kind of common law... (Before your bibles stories)... Nomadic and sedentary... Own share it earth the other privatize it through his work... One hunt the other farm... Hard or impossible to be nomadic nowadays.
I am curious and thinking that you have a problem with civil law. The problem is that their is fundamentally 2 kind of common law... (Before your bibles stories)... Nomadic and sedentary... Own share it earth the other privatize it through his work... One hunt the other farm... Hard or impossible to be nomadic nowadays.
There are as many kinds of common law as there are communities. Same with civil law if the community has civil law. But they are quite similar in some fundamental ways, because people are quite similar in fundamental ways - need air to breathe, water to drink, food to eat, clothing, shelter.
Civil law becomes dictatorship by government. When the governing dictatorial body is wise, it is a strong government, beneficial to the people. When the governing dictatorial body is foolish, it harms the people.
When the common law group has wisdom and understanding, they use the people (jury) to judge how much harm or damage has been done in a case. Otherwise everybody is free. If the common law group is foolish, they judge cases foolishly hurting people of the group thereby.
Good civil law can organize the people for projects better than the common law can. An example of this is the civil law government of the United States being organized to fight the common law American Indians. The Indians were common law people with little civil law. No Indian could force another Indian to fight in a battle against U.S. soldiers. So, whenever an Indian thought he had enough fighting, he simply went home. The U.S. solder was not allowed to go home because of civil law.
This means that civil law has strength, but common law has freedom.
The United States of America has strength because it has civil law that is or can be overruled by common law. No matter how corrupt the civil law U.S. government becomes, the people can stop it using common law. The common law jury can override any law that the civil law government makes. But the civil law government can direct the people with any law up until the people bring common law into play.
Good combination, civil law ruled by common law.
The problem in America is, some government people have hidden the common law part from most of the people. The people don't realize that they can be free from governmental coercion using common law. But, the people are waking up.
Of course I am fishing... But don't worry, I don't use baits nor nets... Just read and forget ;-).
I am curious and thinking that you have a problem with civil law. The problem is that their is fundamentally 2 kind of common law... (Before your bibles stories)... Nomadic and sedentary... Own share it earth the other privatize it through his work... One hunt the other farm... Hard or impossible to be nomadic nowadays.
I am curious and thinking that you have a problem with civil law. The problem is that their is fundamentally 2 kind of common law... (Before your bibles stories)... Nomadic and sedentary... Own share it earth the other privatize it through his work... One hunt the other farm... Hard or impossible to be nomadic nowadays.
Exactly the opposite.
When there was the first family - Adam and Eve and Cain and Abel - there was only common law... law common among the people. Then, after the world became populated enough that some of the cousins didn't know each other well enough, they formed civil law by agreement so that they could work together without the problems of having to over-think what their relationship was to each other. The leaders made money, then.
When governments break down, common law still stands. It is often unwritten law that people informally agree on locally.
When there was the first family - Adam and Eve and Cain and Abel - there was only common law... law common among the people. Then, after the world became populated enough that some of the cousins didn't know each other well enough, they formed civil law by agreement so that they could work together without the problems of having to over-think what their relationship was to each other. The leaders made money, then.
When governments break down, common law still stands. It is often unwritten law that people informally agree on locally.
Female genital mutilation is common law or civil law (140 millions cases) ? Rape is common law? Private property? But more interestingly you don't believe that a city could have its own civil law different from common law?
All over the world governments have civil law that is different from common law.
Why do you think that I might believe that a city couldn't have its own civil law different from common law? Are you on some kind of a fishing expedition by saying this?
Exactly the opposite.
When there was the first family - Adam and Eve and Cain and Abel - there was only common law... law common among the people. Then, after the world became populated enough that some of the cousins didn't know each other well enough, they formed civil law by agreement so that they could work together without the problems of having to over-think what their relationship was to each other. The leaders made money, then.
When governments break down, common law still stands. It is often unwritten law that people informally agree on locally.
When there was the first family - Adam and Eve and Cain and Abel - there was only common law... law common among the people. Then, after the world became populated enough that some of the cousins didn't know each other well enough, they formed civil law by agreement so that they could work together without the problems of having to over-think what their relationship was to each other. The leaders made money, then.
When governments break down, common law still stands. It is often unwritten law that people informally agree on locally.
Female genital mutilation is common law or civil law (140 millions cases) ? Rape is common law? Private property? But more interestingly you don't believe that a city could have its own civil law different from common law?
Exactly the opposite.
When there was the first family - Adam and Eve and Cain and Abel - there was only common law... law common among the people. Then, after the world became populated enough that some of the cousins didn't know each other well enough, they formed civil law by agreement so that they could work together without the problems of having to over-think what their relationship was to each other. The leaders made money, then.
When governments break down, common law still stands. It is often unwritten law that people informally agree on locally.
When there was the first family - Adam and Eve and Cain and Abel - there was only common law... law common among the people. Then, after the world became populated enough that some of the cousins didn't know each other well enough, they formed civil law by agreement so that they could work together without the problems of having to over-think what their relationship was to each other. The leaders made money, then.
When governments break down, common law still stands. It is often unwritten law that people informally agree on locally.
Without citizenship there is no security...
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