Bitmain has a working / shipping product... you have 
??
and the best customer service seen so far! ??
Topic: COMPARING PAPA ASIC COSTS TO BITMAIN (Read 778 times)
Added to ignore for now. I'll check in with a few of your future posts but sounding like a crybaby. If your project was that good, it would be funded.
Bitmain has a working / shipping product... you have ??
?? 
Maybe add some quote-tags if you want people read through this.
Sorry. Too busy throwing money at Bitmain right now...
Same - I'm trying to feed $20 bills through my monitor but they keep getting snagged up in the back somehow..
Sorry. Too busy throwing money at Bitmain right now...
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Hmm
awfull pricing comparing my project
the wafer cost is 3k,with aprox 3k chips so their cost price is aprox 10k
and noone is interested in participating in my 65 nm at cost price
crazy folks
Because it is not open source dude. your business model is not much different than Asic one.
You get the technology with our money invested we eventually get good praise from today point's of view and we are going probably to loose our investments from tomorrow point of view
who said it s not opensource?
i ve uploaded all the needed files for the pcb and else
Yeah like avalon competition for Open source PCB I can get the pcb and have the schematics. What i want to have is the PIC software. Have you seen a single participant who uploaded his software in competition - NO i gues same as me. The open source is Klondike project only and nothing else from my point of view. - Speaking of The ASIC excuse my competence BUT what i mean like open source is you to publish all asic Related Files which are needed for us so that no matter how stupid we are when we go to Fabric and say for instance i wanna have this chip they to be able to produce it. Did you understand what i am up to. But you stated that this aint gona happen if I remember correctly right?
So you think he is going to give you access to gds and the mask?
hmm
please confirm with them as i would be interested also if this is the case
No he want of course but the difference is
1. He invested own money or at least not collected from community
2. He does not claim that he is open source he is here for the businesses. No doubt about that
3. The magic word open source means nothing anymore
Can I ask you if you claim to be open why you are not giving your mask and GDS and mask to the community
I know do not answer it is NDA shit or you paid cheaper to cut the costs or million reasons which has nothing to do with opensource and most probably is a bulshit
It s simple the mask cost is higher than the 1.5 btc we are asking you to put in the project to get the chips at cost price
so you should be able to understand that the best deal in the market right now is mine i m not making money on the chips
are you not getting this?Huh
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Quote from: papamoi on Today at 03:56:55 PM
Quote from: loshia on Today at 03:52:39 PM
Quote from: papamoi on Today at 03:30:30 PM
Hmm
awfull pricing comparing my project
the wafer cost is 3k,with aprox 3k chips so their cost price is aprox 10k
and noone is interested in participating in my 65 nm at cost price
crazy folks
Because it is not open source dude. your business model is not much different than Asic one.
You get the technology with our money invested we eventually get good praise from today point's of view and we are going probably to loose our investments from tomorrow point of view
who said it s not opensource?
i ve uploaded all the needed files for the pcb and else
Yeah like avalon competition for Open source PCB I can get the pcb and have the schematics. What i want to have is the PIC software. Have you seen a single participant who uploaded his software in competition - NO i gues same as me. The open source is Klondike project only and nothing else from my point of view. - Speaking of The ASIC excuse my competence BUT what i mean like open source is you to publish all asic Related Files which are needed for us so that no matter how stupid we are when we go to Fabric and say for instance i wanna have this chip they to be able to produce it. Did you understand what i am up to. But you stated that this aint gona happen if I remember correctly right?
So you think he is going to give you access to gds and the mask?
hmm
please confirm with them as i would be interested also if this is the case
No he want of course but the difference is
1. He invested own money or at least not collected from community
2. He does not claim that he is open source he is here for the businesses. No doubt about that
3. The magic word open source means nothing anymore
Can I ask you if you claim to be open why you are not giving your mask and GDS and mask to the community
I know do not answer it is NDA shit or you paid cheaper to cut the costs or million reasons which has nothing to do with opensource and most probably is a bulshit
It s simple the mask cost is higher than the 1.5 btc we are asking you to put in the project to get the chips at cost price
so you should be able to understand that the best deal in the market right now is mine i m not making money on the chips
are you not getting this?Huh
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