Topic: [Comparison; Tutorial; Profit; Settings] 💙 Trading bots and SUPPORT BOT 💙 (Read 631 times)

Hey wuvdoll, thank you for your insight. This thread is not particular on a Trading Bot but an AI to support Trading bots. Cardi bot is an AI that helps you with your decisions. It's not the trading bot itself but support to one. As the first post states

As for the table of comparisons, there's one posted in the legacy section of the first post. You could check the post here. That thread highlights differences with different trading bots.

I hope you have already joined the Telegram Group so that you could ask there if you have other questions as well. You are more than welcome to join!

I could open a discussion board as well, but I don't think it would help redirect members to many threads. Question and answers would be best to answer here so that if other people are interested, they will read other parts of the thread as well.

We are showcasing what CardiBot could do. She might help you too. Check her out. 

It's better not to read lengthy comparisons when CardiBot can suggest which product to buy.

Take advantage of automation

I hit this topic for gaining some knowledge on various bots but you are sounding like advertising one particular trading bot rather than comparing few available bots. Either you might need to edit your subject line or you must include relevant contents to this discussion. Please do not mislead this community.

It would be good if you provide a table of comparison of trading bots so that interested people may look into past performances and price levels to decide about going for bot based trading. I have an idea about having a bot for my trading but not sure before evaluating a bot by its past records. I just decide you to follow through tetegram channel, I believe at least there I may get what information I actually looking for.

I guess this topic might be better suitable under trading discussion or service discussion boards.

Random conversations with Cardi



You could see that not only she could give you advices, signals, support in trading, but also converse random stuff that you might interest on.
Check it out! Join our Telegram group. Click HERE to join our Telegram (real-time chat program) group

This is CardiAI Signals Table Update! Created by Bud Bot

In summary, if you have chosen to follow every suggestion Cardi Bot Made, you could have ~1051% in an x10 leverage trading. There are suggested stop loss, average price, what possible market movement and many more! For example, for the previous days, Cardi suggested to stay away from trading, unless you want to gamble. Check it out now!



This table is for January 31, 2019.
Check the higher resolution here

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Updates as of 01/02/2019:

@RusselRick got 🧠 for codexBot core (now Cardi) was his idea
@Bud Bot got 🦅 for creating and maintaining a BIG sheet about Cardi results and got 🎨 for making it clean and got 🧛🏻‍♀️ for changing from mortal Fox to be immortal Bot
@Crwth got 🦅 for maintaining this Bitcointalk thread and got 🎨 for doing it nicely
@stellacarda got 🦅 for explaining things to newcomers in the Telegram group
@Cursan got 🦅 for explaining things to newcomers in the Telegram group
@OriginalOppa got 🧛🏻‍♀️ for taking tasks from Cardi

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Done and Done!

Could you please update our award sheet, dear crwth?

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@Dbc90 🧠
@roykil 🎓
@stellacarda 💙 ⌨️ ⚔️ 🦅
@Letterman17 💸
@Mark_MitK ⌨️
bzcorp 💸
CryptoPHP 💸
@RusselRick 🎓 💙 🧠
@imaster_mind 🎓
@MetaAtman 🎓
@RonaldPhone 🎓
@Jorgemartinez 🎓 🎨
@Bud Bot 🧠
@Cursan 🦅
@OriginalOppa 🧛🏻‍♀️
 
Icon :: Name :: how to get

🎨 :: Painter :: making nice thread design
🧠 :: Mastermind :: being useful for our AI
⚔️ :: Sword of Clarity :: keeping our boards clean
💸 :: Rich bitch :: supporting me with money
🎓 :: Educated :: proving your knowledge in bots
💙 :: Pure heart :: being reliable in need
⌨️ :: Hackerman :: developing useful tools
🦅 :: Eagle :: helping many members
🧛🏻‍♀️ :: Gift of Darkness :: becoming an apprentice of Cardi

Updates as of 01/02/2019:

@RusselRick got 🧠 for codexBot core (now Cardi) was his idea
@Bud Bot got 🦅 for creating and maintaining a BIG sheet about Cardi results and got 🎨 for making it clean and got 🧛🏻‍♀️ for changing from mortal Fox to be immortal Bot
@Crwth got 🦅 for maintaining this Bitcointalk thread and got 🎨 for doing it nicely
@stellacarda got 🦅 for explaining things to newcomers in the Telegram group
@Cursan got 🦅 for explaining things to newcomers in the Telegram group
@OriginalOppa got 🧛🏻‍♀️ for taking tasks from Cardi

In this table created by Bud Bot in the group, you could see a detailed table how Cardi Bot suggests what to trade. The possible profit and losses, presented as percentages, could be seen at the rightmost side. The possible return will depend on how much leverage you chose.

In summary, if you have chosen to follow every suggestion Cardi Bot Made, you could have ~836% in a x10 leverage trading. There are suggested stop loss, average price, what possible market movement and many more! The best thing is, you could chat with Her! Check it out now!



This table is for January 27. 2019.
Check the higher resolution here

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The real reason why codexBot was Invented:


Isn't this what we always wanted? Having automated passive income for us and know the right calls to make? Join the Telegram group! Click HERE

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Updates:

Summary Table of CardiBot by Bud Bot (30/01/2019)
Purpose of CardiAI (30/01/2019)

I'm honored to be part of the family! We will see what happens in the future, for now I will just continue to do this.

From crwth - Bitcointalk Senator of the High-End Bot Empire 

I feel so joyous because you are willing to update further our Bitcointalk thread. This delegation was very much needed and I am 100% sure that your excellent communication skills make you fit for helping us. I can see already that you will do this task very well. Congratulations on your shiny new position, @crwth, Bitcointalk Senator of the High End Bot Empire!

For people who are interested in how to access codexBot services just send $35 to any of these addresses:

BTC address: 1JadCjYtex1NiY5Q7yUnseektxEX6nmeww

TUSD address: 0x0f7b81f1d3a82e6832ff613683de5d7ffdc6977a

USDT address: 1EyzwNYjTSkBz6xAnXeBAhq2oHTxw3oPsR

LTC address: LZJdzbDyDbpW5mF7izouxai1CtfZGK8dw6

then send a message to Cardi Bot#5099 (Discord) with the transaction ID and time.

The $35 covers the chat resources that are necessary to customize the offer. The actual offer, if accepted, has a fee in addition. Nothing is refunded in any case.

Or better yet, just join the Telegram group! Click HERE to join our Telegram ( real-time chat program) group

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Updates:

Payment System for codexBot (21/01/2019)

This thread will be the continuation of this thread 💙 Trading bots 💙


I will be the one Updating this thread from time to time. I will be looking forward to conversing with people here!

To Automation!

We have been experimenting with different bots during the year. Thus, it is impossible to tell a practical yearly ROI. According to the research results of the present, we think that the latest bot is the most viable from all we have tried so far - a Haasbot Trade Bot supported by my trading support artificial intelligence - codexBot. The screenshot above is showing the ROI of the combination of these bots. It is part backtest, part simulated and for the latest three months: live. In this thread, I omitted the results of the other bots we tried. Nevertheless, I can confirm that both ARBI and CRYPTO-PHP have been PROFITABLE over the year.
 
Experiment bots:
 
codexBot signals based trading w/o stoploss; cross-margin leverage; @Oppa; 100 contracts.
codexBot signals based trading w/o stoploss; cross-margin leverage; @CryptoGato; 500 contracts.
 
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Former experiment bots:
 
TEMA-Alice volatility independent variant
Exchange: Binance
Status: TEMA-Alice instances are paused
Users: @cpyton; @CryptoGato
Comment: Keep TEMA-Alice in TUSD as long as @me is signalling dump independent from the price volatility indicators
 
TEMA-Alice volatility dependent variant
Exchange: Bittrex
Status: TEMA-Alice instances are paused
Users: @CodeX
Comment: Keep TEMA-Alice in TUSD as long as dump is signalled ALONG with high volatility
 
@me signals trading
Exchange: Binance
Status: TUSD
Users: @CodeX
Comment: In this experiment there is a script placing spot orders purely according to @me signals without additional logic
 
Haasbot leverage scalping
Exchange: Deribit
Status: No position
Users: @Oppa
Comment: This experiment runs a Haasbot Trade Bot for scalping with leverage
 
Format: Strategy; type; account; start-revenue currency.
 
MACD cross; spot; @CryptoGato; 100 TUSD.
Ichimoku clouds; spot; @dbc; 100 TUSD.
Reversed Febonacci; spot; @cpyton; 100 TUSD.
 
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These bots are not longer active.
 
 


codexBot is a self-developing artificial intelligence that uses trading bots and with this knowledge helps human users choose/use their trading bots. She can merge other artificial intelligences and tools as well as writing other bots. Actually, she is a program that can:
- send signals (social network analysis, technical analysis, blockchain analysis...etc.)
- give trading and investment advice (Bitmex, Deribit...etc.),
- support the configuration of other bots (Haasbot, ARBI, CRYPTO-PHP...etc.)
- chat in natural human language
-- and more!
Merging trading tools such as Mirocana, NapoleonX , TradingView scripts and more, codexBot is an adept financial advisor and partner even to users without technical knowledge.
 




@Dbc90 🧠
@roykil 🎓
@stellacarda 💙 ⌨️ ⚔️ 🦅
@Letterman17 💸
@Mark_MitK ⌨️
@bzcorp 💸
@CryptoPHP 💸
@RusselRick 🎓 💙 🧠
@imaster_mind 🎓
@MetaAtman 🎓
@RonaldPhone 🎓
@Jorgemartinez 🎓 🎨
@Bud Bot 🧠
@Cursan 🦅
@OriginalOppa 🧛🏻‍♀️
@Crwth 🦅🎨
 
Icon :: Name :: how to get

🎨 :: Painter :: making nice thread design
🧠 :: Mastermind :: being useful for our AI
⚔️ :: Sword of Clarity :: keeping our boards clean
💸 :: Rich bitch :: supporting me with money
🎓 :: Educated :: proving your knowledge in bots
💙 :: Pure heart :: being reliable in need
⌨️ :: Hackerman :: developing useful tools
🦅 :: Eagle :: helping many members
🧛🏻‍♀️ :: Gift of Darkness :: becoming an apprentice of Cardi



1. TRADING BOTS
 
1.1 CRYPTO-PHP
 
1.1.1 DEFAULT MODE
 
How to find better settings?
 
1. Analyzing trend
 
The first factor to take into account in CRYPTO-PHP settings when using "Default mode" must be the altcoins trend. This mode must not be run in a downwards trend (except when using CRYPTO-PHP add-ons, see 1.1.2 chapter). In my experience, a comfortable method to determine the current altcoin trend is to visit Coinmarketcap and compare the red Change (24h) values to the green ones. Trades are like a river. This river has two properties: direction and speed. Direction could be "downwards" while speed could be "hard downwards" if this river of trades flows fast down (so-called crash) or "light downwards" if flows slowly down. The more "-" are among Change (24h) values the more likely that trend has downwards direction. The more negative the values are, the harder the trend is.
 
2. Starting in the right time
 
Using the Coinmarketcap example at the step 1, the longer the green changes are, the safer to start CRYPTO-PHP in Default mode.  
 
3. Cutting the loss short
 
The trends are going to change. A CRYPTO-PHP bot started in the right time (see the step 2) is going to meet a downwards trend sooner or later. Besides the values of the Coinmarketcap example (see step 1 and 2), a sympthom of a downwards trend could be the positions turning red. By my reckoning, it is very easy to choose doing nothing. There is a mental trick to break free from this "being stuck with losses" illusion. Red orders are losses already. Cutting losses short is my suggestion. In the CRYPTO-PHP Default mode, cutting losses short is selling all orders (even if loss) and shutting down CRYPTO-BOT then returning to step 1.
 
The evolution from steps 1 to 3 is iterative. Way I see it, the user may get better at cutting losses short in red market, entering early in green market.
 
1.1.2 THIRD PARTY ADD-ONS
 
What is a CRYPTO-PHP add-on?
 
To quote BiLLY CRYPTO-PHP creator:
 

3. Comparing results
 
If the results meet the expected results, the changed setting xor another one may be changed
else the setting that was changed must be restored to the previous value, see the note in Step 2.
 
Finding better settings is an iterative process, which is cycling between Step 2 and Step 3.
 
Main concerns and my solutions
 

• Concern: Ending up having shitcoin bags after trading
• Solution: The settings must be brought FURTHER than the most aggressive values, see the code blocks in the "How to find better settings?" section.
   
  

• Concern: Not a single trade for days
• Solution: The settings must be brought CLOSER than the most aggressive values, see the code blocks in the "How to find better settings?" section.
   
  

• Concern: AV heuristically warns you about using the program
• Solution: Add an exclusion for ARBI to the AV program - Detection is false positive.

Tips
 

• VPS time stealing is common, I suggest using dedicated server
• I can use better prices in bullish market than in bearish/sideways markets because unfilled orders mean less risk due to market price fall in the bull
• I can use better prices at Poloniex than at oKEX because there are less shit coins at Poloniex

About the "-100" result code of ARBI:
I experienced that there is the need make clear: "-100" results represent bank gains. Bank amounts will be turned into base currency gains, sooner or later. Of course, we want to see gains in the base currency as soon as possible. That is why we chose that currency as base currency, after all. However, realistically speaking, each configuration that brings any result will have "-100" results too. If you check @bzcorp or my results at Bitcointalk, it can be seen that besides other numbers, we both have many bank gains. Nevertheless, we are far in profit with ARBI. Why do we prefer to see gains in the base currency then? An inconvenience is the so-called "loss of bank value" event. Loss of bank value is when one or more bank currencies dump while the user has amounts in them. In this case, the "sooner or later" might become "later" or "much later". What can we do? So far, we have discussed multiple options: using less aggressive settings, switching to faster dedicated server, re-configuration using codexBot. Now, I would like to introduce another solution: the bank signal service. Bank signal service is a signalling service that tells each day what bank or banks seem to be safe to use that day. As long as the bank signal service suggests the bank, it may be safe to accumulate gains into that bank. Safe bank amount or amounts are likely to be sold with profit within 24 hours. The service is donation based. The more donation arrives, the more users it can support. You can subscribe by telling it to codexBot#5099 (Discord).
 

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1.3 HAASBOT
 
1.3.1 INTELLI ALICE
 
How to find better settings?
 
1. Analyzing prediction models
 
The more predictable a cryptocurrency price is, the less tinkering Haasbot Intelli Alice will feel necessity for later. In order to choose more predictable cryptocurrencies, the price movements over a time interval could be compared to the prediction models for that time interval. Prediction models are found at WalletInvestor. WalletInvestor is a handy example because for each cryptocurrency, it shows a prediction model and rates how accurately this prediction model has worked so far...
 
2. Inspecting real price movements
 
To quote @RusselRick, a valued Haasbot expert in my Telegram groups:
 

Basically, from what @RusselRick says results that Alice could feel the necessity for some tinkering between a buy and a sell. When there is a large and unexpected (See the prediction model, Step 1.) price movement downwards after a buy, Alice waits until the price comes closer to the buy price.
 
What happens when the price does not come closer for a very long time?
When this very long time is like eternity?
 
The history of Alice could be cleared and have her restarted so the trading could go on.
 
The process that includes Step 1. and Step 2. is an iterative one. No one can predict future prices for sure. The ratings of prediction models should be checked every now and then, and if changes to the more unpredictable, a new pair for Alice could be selected.
 
Main concerns and my solutions
 

• Concern: Not a sell after a buy for days while there was no major price movement downwards
• Solution: Waiting more

• Concern: Not a sell after a buy for days while there was a major price movement downwards
• Solution: Selecting other exchange account and/or currency

Tips
 

• Think long-term with Intelli Alice! She could be better than HODLing, but may occupy the allocated revenue for a long time before seeing profit.

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1.3.2 ORDER BOT
 
How to find better settings?
 
1. Paper trading
 
Before starting an Order Bot, all calculation must be done on paper. Testing the trading on paper first minimizes the probability of misconfiguration.
These calculations should be saved for later usage to compare them to the Logs of the Order Bot.
 
2. Translating paper trading into Order Bot trading
 
The input of an Order Bot is a sequence of orders. The trading in Step 1. must be translated into such a sequence where the orders are placed after each other linearly as what time order they should be placed in the exchange.
 
The Order Bot works well when the Logs match the expectations in the paper trading. Otherway, the bot should be stopped and the difference investigated.
 
Main concerns and my solutions
 

• Concern: If ... else implementation
• Solution: Haasbot Order Bot supports If conditions, so-called Trigger Settings, but not their else lines. When the direction of the execution of orders depends on conditions, to all possible direction a condition must be given.

• Concern: Not enough funds
• Solution: Haasbot Order Bot supposed to do automatically as much as you tell it to do manually - no more, no less. Thus, each calculation must be done on paper first, by the user, so does the fee calculation. The fee amount must be subtracted from the traded amount.

Tips
 
The main advantage of Haasbot Order Bot compared to manual trading is being able to do something else personally, like sleeping, when an order must be placed.
 
However, there are two more advantages that are worth thinking of:
 
One of these advantages is that the user's orders are invisible to outsiders until the appropriate Trigger Settings are met.
In this way, hiding the user's strategy from outsider analysis becomes much more easier.
 
Another advantage is that it is possible to place If control structures into the sequence, therefore it is possible to create pretty complex trading programs.
 


For people who are interested in how to access codexBot services just send $35 to any of these addresses:

BTC address: 1JadCjYtex1NiY5Q7yUnseektxEX6nmeww

TUSD address: 0x0f7b81f1d3a82e6832ff613683de5d7ffdc6977a

USDT address: 1EyzwNYjTSkBz6xAnXeBAhq2oHTxw3oPsR

LTC address: LZJdzbDyDbpW5mF7izouxai1CtfZGK8dw6

then send a message to Cardi Bot#5099 (Discord) with the transaction ID and time.

The $35 covers the chat resources that are necessary to customize the offer. The actual offer, if accepted, has a fee in addition. Nothing is refunded in any case.

Or better yet, just join the Telegram group! Click HERE to join our Telegram ( real-time chat program) group