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Topic: Complaints for NEO/Redpulse. (Read 1061 times)

legendary
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October 09, 2017, 08:14:28 AM
#15
that's quite an explanation, thank you for such a nice comments and explanations empowering

having read what you said, I would like to ask u if think that the whole process couldn't be better? couldn't they planned it better ? (Definite answer is yes they could, but they didn't expect server to crash, do they? what was the backup/scaling plan) ?

I may not object on number of things , but the worst thing is my NEO is gone, and I couldn't take them to exchange and sell them for $35$+, and yet I have no certain date when I will get my refund if not $RPX .

I may give it another chance to try another ico on redpulse, but if my 2nd experience for particularly refunds/unsuccessful participation is as horrible as $RPX ones, I might give up participating in $NEO ICO's

In my view the weak point here was  the refund policy and obviously the time stamp issue.

Refund policy should have been clear from the outset - and it should have been explicit as to its triggers and timescales.

There needs to be a line which stipulates "you are not guaranteed tokens in the event of X-and either in the event of X refunds will be handled in such and such manner -or funds will not have been withdrawn as contract did not execute"

The real sticking point here is the refund policy.

The only reference to refunds I have seen in their literature was  this

"Now, if your contribution goes through successfully, you’ll be able to see the amount of “Red Pulse Token” in your wallet by clicking on Asset. You may need to wait a few minutes for that to show up. If the contribution was not successful, then you will not see any Red Pulse Token. Instead, your NEO will be refunded after the conclusion of the crowdsale."

source: https://coin.red-pulse.com/neo-gui-guide/

This needed to have far more detail !


The problems  with the timestamp and the clock and the way the second round was done  was not perfect- I agree,and it would  have been better to have a separate countdown and a gap in-between the two phases, and for them to have been  entirely separate events.... this would  have solved the problems! then the time would not have been such an issue  and instead all that would have need to have been coded is that the smart contracts started on the dot at X time, and then stopped triggering once hardcap had been reached and stopped accepting funds. That would have been a simple fix.








full member
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October 15, 2017, 03:17:29 PM
#14
As I just saw this complain thread, did anyone complain about their gas refund and the planned upcoming gas distributions to the, let me call them "Block 025 Victims"?

I think it's a good thing and they show that they care on their investors, do you agree?
sr. member
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October 09, 2017, 08:16:25 AM
#13
Btw your in the wrong forum, your thread should be in "altcoin discussion", not in "altcoin announcements"
hero member
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October 09, 2017, 12:16:20 AM
#12
that's quite an explanation, thank you for such a nice comments and explanations empowering

having read what you said, I would like to ask u if think that the whole process couldn't be better? couldn't they planned it better ? (Definite answer is yes they could, but they didn't expect server to crash, do they? what was the backup/scaling plan) ?

I may not object on number of things , but the worst thing is my NEO is gone, and I couldn't take them to exchange and sell them for $35$+, and yet I have no certain date when I will get my refund if not $RPX .

I may give it another chance to try another ico on redpulse, but if my 2nd experience for particularly refunds/unsuccessful participation is as horrible as $RPX ones, I might give up participating in $NEO ICO's
I was in block# 1445025 and I didn't get my RPX tokens.

Just in case if NEO / RED PULSE team do not address this issue in time, in right direction, both will be dropping pretty hard.........[/color]



Me neither... I was in same block too  meh ! at least got in on first round though... also waiting on refund for 2nd round

The NEON wallet is third party and the release of it timing wise was fortunate (and frustrating for those that had spent time syncing a wallet) the wallet was a breeze to use for the ICO.

They did release a guide and the guide did say the chain could take days to download- and they did provide the download to speed it up..  I have a feeling from twitter than many left it to the last minute...(days) but then in fairness people were not given that much of a heads  up.

The timing could have been better -and the communication... the server crashing when waiting for the Script HASH was a bit of a downer- but got resolved via work around quite quickly.

It is frustrating that there seems to have been an issue with the "2nd hour" and it would be good to see what happened and see if there is an explanation- and a possible solution other than refund (should the situation even  warrant that discussion)

The refund policy one would hope that Red Pulse do address ASAP.

As for ETH - having had a NIGHTMARE experience on many occasions with using it for ICOs and finally giving up forever after the Civic fiasco - playing "guess the gas"is no fun.

The $1000 1st hour is a good touch.. I commend them for taking this route.

As for "Just in case if NEO / RED PULSE team do not address this issue in time" I do not believe that NEO team has anything to answer for? The chain performed very very well...quick - very very quick and it didn't crash (unlike ETH under stress)


Anyway... sometimes you win some  and some time you lose some... lets see  what they have to say first- and see how they (Red Pulse) deal with the refunds - for that you could have a grievance to air

Apart from the 2nd round timing  issue (?) the whole thing was rather painless (assuming you had a synced wallet/ used NEON) and sometimes despite all... shit happens - lets see what Red Pulse explanation is and how they deal with it going forward.

I for one will happily use the NEO platform, and NEON wallet for many purposes in the future no doubt... it is very snazzy indeed IMO - and will become even more feature rich and user friendly in the future without a doubt.

Looking forward  to the Red Pulse platform to hit some of those road-map goals - and start seeing the analysis and contributors grow and also to see the tokens  at work in the ecosystem.

 
 






hero member
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October 09, 2017, 12:11:49 AM
#11
I was in block# 1445025 and I didn't get my RPX tokens.

looks like redpulse is a team of inexperienced members (would appreciate counter comments / criticism)

1st-they released updated neon wallet in last moment, just few hours before presale , while I spend several hour downloading and syncing full wallet.
2nd- they don't care email going to junk
3rd- website down, and then they said they will email the hash, and emailed hash later on, nothing pre-planned properly.
4th- they changed schedule in run-time? means what else you want from them ? their slack registration was closed/still closed, there is/was no announcement for 2 or 3 minutes delay on twitter, via email, nor on facebook.


Now, they are going to hold my NEO hostage for several days / weeks, they will continue to earn gas against it too....


Ethereum is way better than this, at least if you are rejected, you get your eth back in no team.


Just in case if NEO / RED PULSE team do not address this issue in time, in right direction, both will be dropping pretty hard.........




>>>>>do not address this issue in time, in right direction, both will be dropping pretty hard.........


Wow, I'm amazed you have that much money to force this kind of threat!  I wish I was had that much money to move NEO the way I wanted to and not be a broke trader    Sad

$7 dropped from NEO price already, did I really do that?

first round of redpulse ico capped $1000/$37=27NEO , now $neo is hovering around $30, it's not a one man show!
hero member
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October 09, 2017, 12:10:26 AM
#10
***

What a BS you had ONE WEEK to be on time... and download GUI client don't blame it on Developers...
You known that will be hard to get on that ICO and what conditions were ... you got mail in advance what to do.
Don't blame them.
10/10 people managed get those tokens....

Why no complain? they announce NEON supporting redpulse ico few hours before ico, is it justified in your opinion?
yes I got plenty of time, and I spent plenty of time downloading, and syncing full wallet/chain, only after that I discovered I could have waited and used NEON anyways to participate in ICO, you feel it's justified ?
you are probably talking about the first round, and yes I myself got in into first round, the miss-management seems to be for 2nd round, was smartcontract even programmed? if yes, how could they delay it by 3 minutes when it's actually launched?
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1002
October 08, 2017, 06:29:37 PM
#9
***

What a BS you had ONE WEEK to be on time... and download GUI client don't blame it on Developers...
You known that will be hard to get on that ICO and what conditions were ... you got mail in advance what to do.
Don't blame them.
10/10 people managed get those tokens....
sr. member
Activity: 686
Merit: 251
I'm investigating Crypto Projects
October 08, 2017, 03:30:32 PM
#8
I was in block# 1445025 and I didn't get my RPX tokens.

looks like redpulse is a team of inexperienced members (would appreciate counter comments / criticism)

1st-they released updated neon wallet in last moment, just few hours before presale , while I spend several hour downloading and syncing full wallet.
2nd- they don't care email going to junk
3rd- website down, and then they said they will email the hash, and emailed hash later on, nothing pre-planned properly.
4th- they changed schedule in run-time? means what else you want from them ? their slack registration was closed/still closed, there is/was no announcement for 2 or 3 minutes delay on twitter, via email, nor on facebook.


Now, they are going to hold my NEO hostage for several days / weeks, they will continue to earn gas against it too....


Ethereum is way better than this, at least if you are rejected, you get your eth back in no team.


Just in case if NEO / RED PULSE team do not address this issue in time, in right direction, both will be dropping pretty hard.........




>>>>>do not address this issue in time, in right direction, both will be dropping pretty hard.........


Wow, I'm amazed you have that much money to force this kind of threat!  I wish I was had that much money to move NEO the way I wanted to and not be a broke trader    Sad
newbie
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Merit: 0
October 08, 2017, 03:29:40 PM
#7
Mail says:


"Contributions exceeding the one transaction per period rule will be refunded.",

does this mean you will get refunded with first round neos if you are in block 25? This seems to be so stupid
hero member
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October 08, 2017, 01:23:38 PM
#6
OOHH, war against NEO, could be exciting.
what make u think it's war against neo?
hero member
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October 08, 2017, 01:16:48 PM
#5
Are you serious? It was very good ico! It had some flaws but it wasn't hacked like DAO! The second round was just for the lucky ones if you got in in the first one you should not complain. Great job RPX team and NEO! we are going to the moon now!

do you have any objection on points that I have raised? feel free to comment/answer my concerns.

the ico / idea / project may not be bad, but worstly organized, couldn't be worst. Untill now, I haven't seen any ico changing like this.
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October 08, 2017, 12:52:37 PM
#4
Crypto is just wild west if you don't like it just go play on FX or Wallstreet!
full member
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October 08, 2017, 12:51:16 PM
#3
OOHH, war against NEO, could be exciting.
full member
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Translation Service: English -> Polish
October 08, 2017, 12:51:00 PM
#2
Are you serious? It was very good ico! It had some flaws but it wasn't hacked like DAO! The second round was just for the lucky ones if you got in in the first one you should not complain. Great job RPX team and NEO! we are going to the moon now!
hero member
Activity: 669
Merit: 520
October 08, 2017, 12:47:20 PM
#1
I was in block# 1445025 and I didn't get my RPX tokens.

looks like redpulse is a team of inexperienced members (would appreciate counter comments / criticism)

1st-they released updated neon wallet in last moment, just few hours before presale , while I spend several hour downloading and syncing full wallet.
2nd- they don't care email going to junk
3rd- website down, and then they said they will email the hash, and emailed hash later on, nothing pre-planned properly.
4th- they changed schedule in run-time? means what else you want from them ? their slack registration was closed/still closed, there is/was no announcement for 2 or 3 minutes delay on twitter, via email, nor on facebook.


Now, they are going to hold my NEO hostage for several days / weeks, they will continue to earn gas against it too....


Ethereum is way better than this, at least if you are rejected, you get your eth back in no team.


Just in case if NEO / RED PULSE team do not address this issue in time, in right direction, both will be dropping pretty hard.........
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