Topic: cop shoots woman in the head (Read 1421 times)

It's Sunday. Church has let out. You and some of your fellow church goers are at the restaurant. Everyone is packing, in plain sight... the women as well as the men. Everyone is sitting around chatting like they do at the restaurant every Sunday after church.

Personally, I would feel much more comfortable knowing that if an armed bandit came in to rob the restaurant, I would be backed by all my fellow church people, and I would back them. In addition, I know that other customers, from other churches, would back us up just as we would back them up.

Tell you what. I would feel WAY more comfortable with this scenario than one of a bunch of cops coming in to stop the armed bandit.

If the law was, open carry required, we wouldn't have need for cops, and the bandits would naturally know better.



EDIT: ... or they would be dead.

truth

Cops are people. You stand a much greater chance of being murdered by cops, or your own government in general, than by terrorists.

Cops are people, armed and trained people. But you can't train a cop to be a human being, while you can train just about anyone to be a good, armed peace officer.

Make it a law that everyone open carry while off his/her own living property. Train all people with general police training. Get rid of the cops. Get rid of the government in so much as they take your freedom to do anything away... except in one area. If you harm someone, or damage his property, then you are liable, up to and including the death penalty. Otherwise, 100% government hands off the people.

Ugh. It's defiantly something that needs to be talked about.  I'm not sure if lately the rie in lawn enforcement/citizen crime is up substantially, or just more transparent. In any instance, it's a shame to see this stuff and the more it gets shared, the more likely something will change. I like seeing people get fired up about this stuff, seeing eye to eye, at least ya'll have view points. Better then sharing this stuff on Facebook and getting 0 reaction.

Holy crap WEB slicer, I'm actually siding with you on this one! Getting angry for getting cut off in traffic is by no means a good reason to shoot at someone. Not only was he putting the woman's life at risk, but anyone else who could possibly have been struck by the stray bullet. Simple assault is no where near good enough. I do agree that attempted murder will be hard to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. But at the very least he should be brought up on charges of aggravated assault and malicious wounding.

Geez, road rage is so stupid! Just a few months ago I had some idiotic woman tailgating me on the interstate during heavy morning traffic. I mean, this lady was probably less than 8 feet off my rear bumper. I gave the brakes a few taps to light up the brake lights and let her know that I was not happy about her being so close. So she rips around me and cuts me off, missing my front bumper by maybe a foot or two. As angry as I was that this waste of oxygen could easily have caused a crash that could have killed me, and possibly other innocent people who were minding their own business, simply because she was obviously in a bigger hurry to get to where she was going than I was, the thought of driving up next to her to shoot her never once crossed my mind.

He's culpable for his actions, but attempted murder would be extremely difficult to prove. Not only would it be tough to prove, it's probably the wrong charge anyway unless you think that he was actually trying to kill her. If it was a private citizen instead of an off-duty cop, the charge would still almost certainly be the same.

Blaming the victim is rather low. 'I didn't like what you did, so that's why I shot you. It's your own fault.'

No, it's not. He's fully culpable for his actions because being angry isn't a license to shoot someone. There is no excuse and no justification here.

It depends if he intentionally cut her off, or it was an accident.  We know her act was intentional - he may not have even been aware what he did.

I would say they both have anger problems.  For sure he shouldn't be allowed to be a cop any longer.

this argument is a slippery slope vod.

one can also argument looking at somebody is provocation. and from there anything can be provocation. i don't think this would be seriously considered provocation in court. dude has anger problems.  

besides, if you want to point fingers and blame provocation on somebody if he cut her off first and she did the same he is the instigator.

Don't mind Vod. Vod is a non-freedom person when it comes to someone elses freedoms. He/she/it sits in a position of peace - probably an early Bitcoin "winner" who doesn't have anything better to do these days than sit around and pick on the thinking of others.

If you got mad because of my comment, then yes I did provoke you.

Getting cut off made her mad.  She wanted revenge, so she retaliated.  He got mad and shot at her.

I'm not saying she deserved it, but I am saying if she had not cut him off, he would not have fired at her.

are you serious? if you talk shit about clans and i shoot you did you provoke me? let's not talk stupid.

So she wasn't exactly an innocent victim - she provoked it to some extent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5fhBBipU3w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwRtll3jjU4&feature=youtu.be

Historically, in the vast majority of civilizations, when the government becomes out of line, a revolution happens. This is more difficult in modern times because of crazy advancements in technology, however, it *will* still happen.

It is only a matter of when.

Just pointing a gun at someone is technically assault with a deadly weapon. In general in court if you point a gun at someone's head (or anywhere else above the waist) and pull the trigger, that is attempted murder. There is absolutely no reason this man should ever be free, or own a gun again, let alone be employed as a police officer.

I found myself thinking that attempted murder maybe wouldn't be the right charge because you have to prove intent, but then I thought what would happen if it wasn't a cop doing the shooting? Odds are decent attempted murder would be the charge. And if it was someone who shot at an off-duty cop (without knowing their identity)? Guaranteed attempted murder charge.

Face it private citizens: Cops are just above the law.

Yeah, that is believable. The first thing I think of when I hear about things like this, is cops. Cops in my opinion are terrorists themselves. If cops weren't allowed to have guns, and only tasers, I wonder how many more people could have had their lives saved. How many stories do we hear about cops pulling out the gun too early? They should get jailed for doing something like that, they have no right to do so.

is this better?  

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/29/cop-shoots-woman-in-head-road-rage_n_6237910.html

Not exactly an official news report but yet another story of one of the bad apples rising to the top. For me, I'd rather let the idiot drivers go ahead of me and that way I can keep a better eye on them. However, perhaps this woman learned a lesson to think twice before allegedly cutting off another driver.

gets charged with assault instead of attempted murder.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/29/cop-shoots-woman-in-head-road-rage_n_6237910.html