Topic: Cops Gone Wild! Eye on the Police State. (Read 1933 times)
This definitely will become more and more relevant these days, freedom and privacy will be luxury goods in the future
this is a little scary, in the future what will happen when grandma states that she accidentally ran a
red light ?
we only have the power they allow us to have...
red light ?
we only have the power they allow us to have...
Another case of police abuse I don't think received nearly as much attention as it should have was that of David Chong. He was jailed by the DEA after being caught during a raid on a friend's house - he had apparently gone there to smoke marijuana. The DEA left him handcuffed in a windowless cell, for five days, with no food, water, or even a toilet he could use. With the agents ignoring his cries for help, and with no water, he had to resort to drinking his own urine.
True to the usual culture of impunity, the agents responsible were given only very light sentences: letters of reprimand for most, and week long suspensions without pay for a couple of them.
The story as covered by TYT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz6dNmeqrQQ.
http://explosm.net/comics/3919
True to the usual culture of impunity, the agents responsible were given only very light sentences: letters of reprimand for most, and week long suspensions without pay for a couple of them.
The story as covered by TYT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz6dNmeqrQQ.
http://explosm.net/comics/3919
Here is the story as covered by Glocktalk.com, a forum largely populated by LEO. You will see they are as disgusted as you are. DEA is not exactly your normal everyday cop.
http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1576155
Another case of police abuse I don't think received nearly as much attention as it should have was that of David Chong. He was jailed by the DEA after being caught during a raid on a friend's house - he had apparently gone there to smoke marijuana. The DEA left him handcuffed in a windowless cell, for five days, with no food, water, or even a toilet he could use. With the agents ignoring his cries for help, and with no water, he had to resort to drinking his own urine.
True to the usual culture of impunity, the agents responsible were given only very light sentences: letters of reprimand for most, and week long suspensions without pay for a couple of them.
The story as covered by TYT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz6dNmeqrQQ.
http://explosm.net/comics/3919
True to the usual culture of impunity, the agents responsible were given only very light sentences: letters of reprimand for most, and week long suspensions without pay for a couple of them.
The story as covered by TYT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz6dNmeqrQQ.
http://explosm.net/comics/3919
It's quite a stretch to go from "you broke the law, so you should go to jail", to "you broke the law, so I'm going to beat you up, maybe kill you in the process, and then I'm going to throw you in jail".
I didn't say what they did was right but most people like to jump on the cop hating bandwagon when many of these people have endangered others.
And many others haven't; that apparently not being a sufficient reason for the police not to harm, or sometimes, kill them. And indeed, you didn't say it was right for the police to beat people up, but you're throwing a "the best way to stop cops from beating you up is don't break the law" like it's some sort of inevitability, or, dare I say, an understandable outcome - it isn't; it's dependent on training (or lack thereof) the police receive, and often enough, the culture of impunity they've got going.
Most of the time police work for the city. This means that the city ordains a police force, and then lets certain "professionals" set it up. Usually these professionals aren't the city council members that voted the police force in. Once it gets going, the city council has little ability to do anything with the police force other than completely disband it. It is difficult for them to discipline cops.
The point? We need to set up a people's police force, one that is totally trained and outfitted as the city police force, one that doesn't do anything except to arrest bad cops, and beat the crap out of them if necessary.
The point? We need to set up a people's police force, one that is totally trained and outfitted as the city police force, one that doesn't do anything except to arrest bad cops, and beat the crap out of them if necessary.
There are 2 sides to every story and all of these people did something that would get the cops on them in the first place. The best way to stop cops from beating you up is don't break the law.
It's quite a stretch to go from "you broke the law, so you should go to jail", to "you broke the law, so I'm going to beat you up, maybe kill you in the process, and then I'm going to throw you in jail".
I didn't say what they did was right but most people like to jump on the cop hating bandwagon when many of these people have endangered others.
There are 2 sides to every story and all of these people did something that would get the cops on them in the first place. The best way to stop cops from beating you up is don't break the law.
It's quite a stretch to go from "you broke the law, so you should go to jail", to "you broke the law, so I'm going to beat you up, maybe kill you in the process, and then I'm going to throw you in jail".
There are 2 sides to every story and all of these people did something that would get the cops on them in the first place. The best way to stop cops from beating you up is don't break the law.
This video doesn't show police physical abuse, but in the context of the protests going on in Baltimore, I thought it was an interesting addition (and I'm too lazy to create a thread specifically for it 
): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqFCqqG6nYk, "A Camera Prevents An Arrest - Baltimore Police admit that camera presence during an interaction with a young man prevented his arrest" (5m10s, video was shot on May, 2).
A quote from one of the police officers: "he would have been going to jail if it wasn't for this guy with the camera, who is probably going to put us on Youtube saying we illegally detained a black man".
): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqFCqqG6nYk, "A Camera Prevents An Arrest - Baltimore Police admit that camera presence during an interaction with a young man prevented his arrest" (5m10s, video was shot on May, 2). A quote from one of the police officers: "he would have been going to jail if it wasn't for this guy with the camera, who is probably going to put us on Youtube saying we illegally detained a black man".
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As it is about cops abuses. Here is another one. They shouldn't have to kill them.
Andhra police kills 20 suspected sandal smugglers.
https://www.google.co.in/search?q=andhra+police+killed+people.
Andhra police kills 20 suspected sandal smugglers.
https://www.google.co.in/search?q=andhra+police+killed+people.
Indian police to use pepper-spraying drones on unruly protesters
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Possible New Revenue Streams For Law Enforcement
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The city's police force has bought five drones, costing about 600,000 rupees ($9,600) each, with their introduction planned for later this month, he said.
The unmanned drones are equipped with high-resolution cameras. They can carry two kilograms (4.4 pounds) of pepper and fly within a one-kilometre radius of their operator.
Lucknow police have previously used drones for aerial surveillance including during religious festivals in the city, the capital of Uttar Pradesh state.
The unmanned drones are equipped with high-resolution cameras. They can carry two kilograms (4.4 pounds) of pepper and fly within a one-kilometre radius of their operator.
Lucknow police have previously used drones for aerial surveillance including during religious festivals in the city, the capital of Uttar Pradesh state.
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Their most prominent recommendations were:
-fees for sex offenders registering in a given jurisdiction
-city tow companies
-fine increases by 50 percent
-pay-per-call policing
-vacation house check fees
-public hours at police firing range for a fee
-police department-run online traffic school for minor traffic infractions
-department-based security service including home checks and monitoring of security cameras by police department
-a designated business to clean biological crime scenes
-state and court fees for all convicted felons returning to the community
-allowing agency name to be used for advertisement and branding
-triple driving-under-the-influence fines by the court
-resident fee similar to a utility tax
-tax or fee on all alcohol sold in the city
-tax or fee on all ammunition sold in, the city
-public safety fees on all new development in the city
-9-1-1 fee per use
-police department website with business advertisement for support
-selling ride-a-longs to the public
-police department–run firearm safety classes
-fees for sex offenders registering in a given jurisdiction
-city tow companies
-fine increases by 50 percent
-pay-per-call policing
-vacation house check fees
-public hours at police firing range for a fee
-police department-run online traffic school for minor traffic infractions
-department-based security service including home checks and monitoring of security cameras by police department
-a designated business to clean biological crime scenes
-state and court fees for all convicted felons returning to the community
-allowing agency name to be used for advertisement and branding
-triple driving-under-the-influence fines by the court
-resident fee similar to a utility tax
-tax or fee on all alcohol sold in the city
-tax or fee on all ammunition sold in, the city
-public safety fees on all new development in the city
-9-1-1 fee per use
-police department website with business advertisement for support
-selling ride-a-longs to the public
-police department–run firearm safety classes
Does Lagos, Africa, have cops? How do they keep order in a city that is more than twice as populous as the largest city in the United States?
everybody has a gun with them
When and if it kills more people per month than U.S. cops do we´ll be in trouble. Maybe. But probably not.
Seems to be yet another pharmaceutical storm in a teacup for profits.
Seems to be yet another pharmaceutical storm in a teacup for profits.
American Police Killed More People in March (111) Than the Entire UK Police Have Killed Since 1900
A total of 111 people were killed by police in the United States in March of 2015. Since 1900, in the entire United Kingdom, 52 people have been killed by police. ...
http://www.alternet.org/american-police-killed-more-people-march-111-entire-uk-police-have-killed-1900
A total of 111 people were killed by police in the United States in March of 2015. Since 1900, in the entire United Kingdom, 52 people have been killed by police. ...
http://www.alternet.org/american-police-killed-more-people-march-111-entire-uk-police-have-killed-1900
Does Lagos, Africa, have cops? How do they keep order in a city that is more than twice as populous as the largest city in the United States?
its getting ridiculous by the amount of force the police is applying. i agree they are somehow the "law" but there is a limit
The "law" are the people, not the cops.
its getting ridiculous by the amount of force the police is applying. i agree they are somehow the "law" but there is a limit
Found three more articles this morning. 
State Legislators Pushing Bills To Shield Police Officers From Their Own Body Camera Recordings
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Cop Forced Woman To Manufacture Meth Under Threat Of Arrest
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This statistic is astounding!
American police killed more people in March (111) than the entire UK police have killed since 1900
State Legislators Pushing Bills To Shield Police Officers From Their Own Body Camera Recordings
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More and more police departments are equipping body cameras on their officers in hopes of trimming down the number of complaints and lawsuits filed against them.
Meanwhile, the public has taken police accountability into its own hands, thanks to the steady march of technology -- which has put a portable phone in almost every person's hands, and put a camera inside most of those phones.
So, we have two entities viewing accountability from seemingly opposite directions. Over the years, many officers have made it clear through their actions that being filmed isn't something they're comfortable with. This has resulted in additional misconduct and abuse of existing laws to shut down recordings. But what are these officers going to do when a city council -- or worse, a Memorandum of Understanding with the Justice Department -- directs them to start generating their own recordings?
One answer has already been presented by the Denver Police Department. They simply won't activate the cameras.
Meanwhile, the public has taken police accountability into its own hands, thanks to the steady march of technology -- which has put a portable phone in almost every person's hands, and put a camera inside most of those phones.
So, we have two entities viewing accountability from seemingly opposite directions. Over the years, many officers have made it clear through their actions that being filmed isn't something they're comfortable with. This has resulted in additional misconduct and abuse of existing laws to shut down recordings. But what are these officers going to do when a city council -- or worse, a Memorandum of Understanding with the Justice Department -- directs them to start generating their own recordings?
One answer has already been presented by the Denver Police Department. They simply won't activate the cameras.
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Cop Forced Woman To Manufacture Meth Under Threat Of Arrest
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Sheriff's deputy Grady Keith Concord was just sentenced after pleading guilty to extorting a woman to manufacture methamphetamine using pseudoephedrine he stole from the sheriff's office evidence room.
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This statistic is astounding!
American police killed more people in March (111) than the entire UK police have killed since 1900
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Don't bother adjusting for population differences, or poverty, or mental illness, or anything else. The sheer fact that American police kill TWICE as many people per month as police have killed in the modern history of the United Kingdom is sick, preposterous, and alarming.
this one doesn't have a video or anything like that, but this poor guy reportedly got beaten, kicked, and bitten by a police dog while he is unconscious and handcuffed
http://sandrarose.com/2015/04/unarmed-unconscious-man-dies-in-police-custody-phillip-white-was-punched-kicked-bitten-by-police-dog/
http://sandrarose.com/2015/04/unarmed-unconscious-man-dies-in-police-custody-phillip-white-was-punched-kicked-bitten-by-police-dog/
that guy flew out of a car that turned over several times.
i know this was a critical situation, but they are cops - they have to fucking act rational in exactly such situations!
that guy was no threat and that beating was unjust in every way.
i know this was a critical situation, but they are cops - they have to fucking act rational in exactly such situations!
that guy was no threat and that beating was unjust in every way.
In both of these cases the cops' actions were deplorable. There's no justifiable excuse for this behavior. Cops should remain professional at all times, but instead are given a free pass to act despicably. Rest assured, if regular people did what any of these cops did they would have been criminally charged and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. The five cops that were immediately fired in the second story were even reinstated afterwards.
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he deserved it but wtf he still got $1k dollars even though he don't fucking care if he ran over a person..
that guy flew out of a car that turned over several times.
i know this was a critical situation, but they are cops - they have to fucking act rational in exactly such situations!
that guy was no threat and that beating was unjust in every way.
Another nice article to add would be the case where the cops kept beating a drive who fell unconscious .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfx7TEuqHEA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfx7TEuqHEA
well lets see the driver- almost killed or injured a police offer and endangering other peoples lives.
So yeah, who wouldn't be angry at that person..
did you watch the video? i am sure you didnt.
read here what happened after the firing.
what a bad joke our justice system is
http://theantimedia.org/city-pays-460000-police-beating-lawsuit-1000-goes-victim/
quote from one of the police officers who hit the unconscious guy:
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"People don't understand the role of a police officer and the stresses we go through," Cleveland said. "None of the five of us knew at that particular moment whether we were going to be alive or not 15 seconds later."
lol what?
he deserved it but wtf he still got $1k dollars even though he don't fucking care if he ran over a person..
this one doesn't have a video or anything like that, but this poor guy reportedly got beaten, kicked, and bitten by a police dog while he is unconscious and handcuffed
http://sandrarose.com/2015/04/unarmed-unconscious-man-dies-in-police-custody-phillip-white-was-punched-kicked-bitten-by-police-dog/
http://sandrarose.com/2015/04/unarmed-unconscious-man-dies-in-police-custody-phillip-white-was-punched-kicked-bitten-by-police-dog/
Another nice article to add would be the case where the cops kept beating a drive who fell unconscious .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfx7TEuqHEA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfx7TEuqHEA
well lets see the driver- almost killed or injured a police offer and endangering other peoples lives.
So yeah, who wouldn't be angry at that person..
did you watch the video? i am sure you didnt.
read here what happened after the firing.
what a bad joke our justice system is
http://theantimedia.org/city-pays-460000-police-beating-lawsuit-1000-goes-victim/
quote from one of the police officers who hit the unconscious guy:
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"People don't understand the role of a police officer and the stresses we go through," Cleveland said. "None of the five of us knew at that particular moment whether we were going to be alive or not 15 seconds later."
lol what?
Another nice article to add would be the case where the cops kept beating a drive who fell unconscious .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfx7TEuqHEA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfx7TEuqHEA
well lets see the driver- almost killed or injured a police offer and endangering other peoples lives.
So yeah, who wouldn't be angry at that person..
yeah exactly, some of their actions might be justifiable but still, they should respect the law and act in defence of it. sorry i cannot post very quickly, you know. newbies
Another nice article to add would be the case where the cops kept beating a drive who fell unconscious .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfx7TEuqHEA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfx7TEuqHEA
well lets see the driver- almost killed or injured a police offer and endangering other peoples lives.
So yeah, who wouldn't be angry at that person..
i dont know what the people did, but i dont think the cops would just do that.. but still, i dont agree with the cops actions
Another nice article to add would be the case where the cops kept beating a drive who fell unconscious .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfx7TEuqHEA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfx7TEuqHEA
Here's another article I ran across the other day.
Colorado bill would impose $15,000 fine on cops who try to stop people from filming them
Colorado bill would impose $15,000 fine on cops who try to stop people from filming them
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A package of police oversight bills introduced in the Colorado Legislature includes a measure that would impose up to $15,000 in civil penalties if a law enforcement officer seizes or destroys a citizen’s recording or interferes with someone trying to film them.
"Primarily, it came up as a result of the number of news reports we’ve been seeing about police officers telling people, ‘Give me your camera,’ or taking the data away, and that is unacceptable conduct," said Rep. Joe Salazar, a Democrat from Thornton and co-sponsor of the bill.
"Primarily, it came up as a result of the number of news reports we’ve been seeing about police officers telling people, ‘Give me your camera,’ or taking the data away, and that is unacceptable conduct," said Rep. Joe Salazar, a Democrat from Thornton and co-sponsor of the bill.
For quite some time now, I've been considering making a thread dedicated to posting and discussing news stories, videos and observations regarding the Police State. I often find stories and videos, involving advancements in technologies and policies, as well as abuse of authority and police brutality, that I'd like to share, yet I don't necessarily feel like they are deserving of a new thread every time. I hope this thread will be useful to everyone in the community who'd like to keep up-to-date on and discuss this topic.
Please feel free to post any relevant news or videos you might find on this subject here.
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Here's the latest story I ran across, I feel is typical of the kind that doesn't deserve a dedicated thread, but I want to share, nonetheless.
Article: http://boingboing.net/2015/04/01/watch-high-ranking-nypd-detec.html
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGSrGmHsT8s
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Officer Patrick Cherry, a New York Police Department detective assigned to the Joint Terrorism Task Force, became insanely angry at an Uber driver who honked at the detective for blocking him while parking his unmarked vehicle. A passenger recorded the tirade...
In the video, you can hear that the officer claims the driver committed three traffic violations. Seth says that isn't true.
“In an unmarked car, the policeman was allegedly attempting to park without using his blinker at a green light,” reads Seth’s YouTube description.
“(His reverse lights weren't on. Likely double parked without hazards on.) The Uber driver pulled around and gestured that he should use his blinker, casually and non-offensively, and kept driving us. The policeman aggressively pulls up behind us and this is what happens.”
In the video, you can hear that the officer claims the driver committed three traffic violations. Seth says that isn't true.
“In an unmarked car, the policeman was allegedly attempting to park without using his blinker at a green light,” reads Seth’s YouTube description.
“(His reverse lights weren't on. Likely double parked without hazards on.) The Uber driver pulled around and gestured that he should use his blinker, casually and non-offensively, and kept driving us. The policeman aggressively pulls up behind us and this is what happens.”
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