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Quote from: dansus021 on June 14, 2021, 10:56:25 PM

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You’d still need to provide a link to the original source though. This has a double purpose: avoid being accused of plagiarism, and make sure that the reader has the option to easily contrast with the original source, which may evolve over time whilst the translation may remain still.

Having the thread starter’s permission is not bound by forum rules, but rather by a deference to its author.

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copy/paste is bad but you can do it if you want to make the post available in other language in one condition the thread starter allowed to do that

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Copy and paste AKA Plagiarism is one of the most common mistakes or acts amongst beginners who might be aware but yet fail to keep it perhaps they often want to taste and see but instead, they aren't given a second chance to tell the tale. It all ends in disappointment as you are banned permanently from the forum. It becomes a major discouragement for those beginners that are yet to know th potential of actually owning an account on the forum especially, when the account has seen some progress as per activities, merits and all.

So, it would be in your best interest as a beginner or newbie, never to plagiarise. Your given no second chance to make things right to that effect.

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There is also something else that you can do, and that is that you can translate a certain post to your local board. In that sense, you are doing a service to your local crypto enthusiasts and you are spreading quality content. But that does not mean any post. There are specific posts that can be translated and you need to contact the author for translation permission and also acknowledge his autorship.

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There is something about second chance. To me someone that is ignorant about something can be given a second chance. But plagiarism is not only in this forum, so people are not supposed to be ignorant of it. In the other way, you cannot deliberately plagiarize, thinking that nobody will know, when people knows you begin to talk of second chance.
Second chance can be given to a very important and hardworking employee and not the opposite.

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Quote from: EYC_ONE on June 12, 2021, 01:52:55 PM

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There is therefore a chance to revert at least part of the penalty, but that is going to apply when either the case is a clear-cut mistake (very rare in general), or the account is considered a net positive to the forum.

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Quote from: EYC_ONE on June 12, 2021, 01:52:55 PM

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It’s a pity that this thread came to a stop, but it serves the purpose of highlighting some cases where a ban was reversed or commuted for a signature ban: [BAN APPEAL]UPDATE: Total table + Ban status .There is therefore a chance to revert at least part of the penalty, but that is going to apply when either the case is a clear-cut mistake (very rare in general), or the account is considered a net positive to the forum. That delimits the scope broadly.

Now the real question is why anyone would resort to plagiarism to begin with? (largely rethorical)

It doesn’t sound to me like a natural thing to do, and often the action seems intended rather than accidental. By accidental, I include cases whereby people want to bring a given content to the forum, copy/paste the content, and are unaware or forgot to add the source link. The practice is nevertheless, unless it’s a dire matter (i.e. VIP warning), generally aligned with a pretty much lazy attitude, and one should at least try to summarize the content provided which is originated in another source. Giving a versed opinion is a plus.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on June 12, 2021, 06:01:40 PM

Copy and pasting is allowed and it isn't that prohibited as long as you provide the source link of it or you give some credit to the actual author. Most of the time this offense were committed by noobs because they lack the knowledge in the first place by reading the unofficial rule regarding plagiarism

In addition to quote above is to be able forum users to share topic, experiences and many more but in order to do that, the forum user must provide or giving credit to the owner. I have done same thing where I copy some content and add my own words and understanding about the topic and of course, the source must not be forgotten or else it will become a plagiarized content from other sources and making it your own even if your intention is to share it not to make it your own content.

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Quote from: EYC_ONE on June 12, 2021, 01:52:55 PM

If so
My claim is that everyone is given a chance to correct mistakes in the forum,

Given the rule this forum set up about plagiarism, I think even not here or in real world we can see that this is not acceptable and sometime could sue you if you invade copyrights isnt it? So thats why it strict here and the punishment is perma ban.

Ive hear some cases of plagiarism for higher ranks but given the situation, evidence and fact, and contributions the decision can changed. For example. You are a good contributor and quality poster and later on got found out of plagiarism. Its case to case basis for your ban.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on June 12, 2021, 04:35:09 PM

Quote from: EYC_ONE on June 12, 2021, 01:52:55 PM

*The question is if this is what the forum is, it will give a second chance to correct the mistake?

Why second chance?

Second chance is not for all. Only good posters with good net effects can be given second chances.

If a shit poster plagiarized, no second chance.
If a newbie plagiarized, no second chance I guess.

Quote from: theymos on November 17, 2018, 02:49:10 PM

Plagiarism is what gets people permabanned, not just copying. Plagiarism is copying with the intent of passing the work off as your own. In essentially all cases, plagiarism deserves a permaban because it usually proves definitively that the person is here for the wrong reasons: to fill up space in order to get paid, not to actually discuss or contribute. If someone was able to convince us that they were plagiarizing just to eg. impress people rather than to fill up space, then a lesser ban of a few months might instead be warranted. But this has never happened AFAICR. (Arguments based on plausible deniability aren't going to work; we don't need to prove that you had the motive we see in your actions.)

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Quote from: theymos on February 24, 2019, 11:57:17 AM

There's been no policy change. redsn0w wasn't permanently banned due to several factors which made me think that permabanning him would be a net negative for the forum. Nobody is banned strictly because of "the rules"; it's always handled case-by-case, but almost always, plagiarists deserve to be permabanned.

If you think that a ban should be ended, make your case in a new topic from a "good for the forum as a whole" perspective.

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Second chances can be given and you can argue that the punishment is harsh, but at the moment the rules are pretty clear that if you're caught plagiarising then it's a permaban. Once we start making exceptions for people it just opens up a huge can of worms and then everyone else who's had a ban will come out of the woodwork and complain it's not fair to them and people who are banned in the future will use this case as an example why they should be given another chance.

PM theymos or cyrus and make your case to them and maybe they will remove it. I'm not against second chances but there needs to be some consistency so it's fair to all. Hopefully signature bans could be issued in cases like this instead and people can keep their accounts, but at the moment I just wish people would stop plagiarising content so these bans aren't even needed in the first place and it's truly a sad state of affairs that they are.

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Forum is also a website, wherein every original post gets ranked on google. If a user post plagiarized content then Google punished the forum by downgrading the content rank of this forum.

Therefore if anyone publishes plagiarized content the forum mods ban the user and delete the content ensuring Google does not downgrade the forum ranking. That is one of the reason why mods are so strict.

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Copy and pasting is allowed and it isn't that prohibited as long as you provide the source link of it or you give some credit to the actual author. Most of the time this offense were committed by noobs because they lack the knowledge in the first place by reading the unofficial rule regarding plagiarism

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The punishment for Plagiarism is usually a "permanent ban" which means there is almost no room for second chances. Like 99.9% of cases of permanent ban will never be unbanned.

There are very few have been cases where users were unbanned, but it was mostly members who heavily contributed positively to the forum in the past.

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Quote from: EYC_ONE on June 12, 2021, 01:52:55 PM

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It is not only about copy and paste, spamming generally will result to ban, these are what newbies to have in mind for not to be banned. But there are still many other rules newbies must abide to, there are many other reasons a member can be banned, but plagiarism, copy/paste and spamming are the main reasons why newbies are banned.

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Quote from: EYC_ONE on June 12, 2021, 01:52:55 PM

*The question is if this is what the forum is, it will give a second chance to correct the mistake?

Why second chance?

Quote from: EYC_ONE on June 12, 2021, 01:52:55 PM

*The forum has no options for correcting mistakes?

Permaban is the correction because those that are banned will evade the ban, that is another rule violation.

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Quote from: EYC_ONE on June 12, 2021, 01:52:55 PM

*The question is if this is what the forum is, it will give a second chance to correct the mistake?
*The forum has no options for correcting mistakes?

Plagiarism is a bannable offense

There were heated arguments in the past where high ranking members were accused of copy-pasting but they weren't banned.
I also read some members who were temporarily banned or signature banned for the same offense.

What can we conclude from here? The general rule is a permanent ban for plagiarism but there are always exception as you can see from the example above. Newbies won't likely get a second chance since they have zero positive contributions yet unlike the old high rank members.

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I would like to remind the newcomers, you should never go to any board and copy and paste. It is not allowed in the forum. If you ever do that, you will see red writing on your profile as a gift.

*The question is if this is what the forum is, it will give a second chance to correct the mistake?
*The forum has no options for correcting mistakes?

If so
My claim is that everyone is given a chance to correct mistakes in the forum,

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