However, I think if someone posts any of that, they should start up the discussion with their own thoughts rather than not posting anything themselves (the extreme) or posting a lazy one-sentence "So what U guyz thinks?" kind of crap (the bare minimum).
This is exactly my stand. For one to refer the forum users to a link, he/she must have read and know how important the article or whatever will be to the forum. After reading, it does not end there. It is expected that you establish your case by opposing or supporting the article. Summarising the article to your understanding, and adding links will make it less ambiguous and discussion friendly. But the worse in this category to me is copying a lengthy article verbatim and adding link to the article. I consider this irrelevant. Apart from plagiarism avoidance, the essence of links is for further reading. So, what are we expected to read from the link when you have already copied the article in the link from head to foot and pasted? 
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Some people have zero tolerance for those that are different, or that think differently than they do. It is sad really. I think a large part of this is due to their inability to think critically or use sound logic to reason and persuade others. Another part of this is just that they are in desperate need of male validation.
My favorite: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/japan-discovers-magnetic-substance-in-pfizer-covid-vaccines-journalists-5357066
Yikes, slap on that tin foil hat--but I guess that's what Off-Topic is for, right? That's Politics&Society, and BADecker does that day in and day out - copy-pastes a title, adds a link, starts a new thread even it's mostly the same topic as many of his other threads. Spammy AF. Most of the time though he adds a quote and perhaps a sentence of his own so technically it's difficult to argue on the grounds of "low value". But in this case he didn't even bother to do that, still apparently it's good enough effort for a discussion forum despite being lifted verbatim from some blog or e-mail newsletter. I thought it's gonna be a slam dunk report. Nope, dude's got shitposting immunity of some sort. SMH.
My favorite: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/japan-discovers-magnetic-substance-in-pfizer-covid-vaccines-journalists-5357066
Yikes, slap on that tin foil hat--but I guess that's what Off-Topic is for, right? 
My favorite: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/japan-discovers-magnetic-substance-in-pfizer-covid-vaccines-journalists-5357066
Yikes, slap on that tin foil hat--but I guess that's what Off-Topic is for, right? That was an extreme example of what OP is talking about, but with topics related to bitcoin or other crypto-related stuff, I actually don't mind if someone posts an article, a snippet of one, or just a link, because I don't actively follow what's going on on the crypto news sites. All the news I get basically comes from this forum. However, I think if someone posts any of that, they should start up the discussion with their own thoughts rather than not posting anything themselves (the extreme) or posting a lazy one-sentence "So what U guyz thinks?" kind of crap (the bare minimum).
One member whose posts always contain articles is Hydrogen, and he's an example of how to do it right. He always gives his own thoughts at the end of whatever he quotes and invites discussion. Usually the articles he quotes from are interesting, too.
OP,I agree with you. Why do we copy what we find in the newspaper or on any web site in the forum. If it does not have any comments. It looks bad in the forum. If something is important then it is good. There are some people who do it. But never think that it will be useful for anyone to post
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True and I'm not trying to justify offenders that misuse this privilege with my next comment but also I could read a news and what to see what the community reactions to that particular news will be which will result to me posting what I just read on the forum without having to add my thoughts so as not to interface to how they respond to the article knowing that my own point of view could influence their reasoning.
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Some are just even abandoning their own thread by the time that they press the "Post" button.
Even though i'm a newbie, i have to agree to this argument. It's unfair to others because they looked like they made high quality post when actually they just copied and pasted everything from many different resources. This should be fix.
I mean it's okay if they search some information but copying everything just seems so wrong. Owning someone's words and making it their own is not good. Using own words and putting effort is better than copying.
I mean it's okay if they search some information but copying everything just seems so wrong. Owning someone's words and making it their own is not good. Using own words and putting effort is better than copying.
writing your own words is much more honorable than just plagiarizing. banned is perfect for those who commit pure plagiarism.
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But you can also add that if there is good news, and the user is in a hurry to report it, along with the news I would like to hear his own opinion and emotions.
True and I'm not trying to justify offenders that misuse this privilege with my next comment but also I could read a news and what to see what the community reactions to that particular news will be which will result to me posting what I just read on the forum without having to add my thoughts so as not to interface to how they respond to the article knowing that my own point of view could influence their reasoning.
You could say I could have just posted the link redirecting the readers to the source of the information but again most users hate getting redirected from the forum and might just ignore my posts or probably report as low quality since it'll just a one liner comment with redirected link. Copy pasting doesn't make it any quality but atleast reader won't have to ignore because of the redirecting out of the forum.
Not all copy pasting are annoying and also not all users engage in such practice just to meet weekly quota, we have user doing so because they genuinely want to pass that information across and they shoudn't get punished just because some bad eggs are abusing such features of the forum.
But you can also add that if there is good news, and the user is in a hurry to report it, along with the news I would like to hear his own opinion and emotions. After all, if he found good news or not, first, he reacted himself and wanted to inform everyone about it, and not just copies and pastes without comment. Isn't it?
Just a message, a clipping from news, especially from well-known news sites, I don't think that it will surprise anyone, since many can read outside the forum.
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Don't you think this should be fix? Will the rules ever be changed?
I don't think the rules should changed for just this reason although frequent offenders should be punished and I'm not just talking about deleting their post, in addition they should be given some temporary ban based on individual cases. Some questions, or answer can be linked from other source without you having to add a words so having such rules will deprived users of such actions.
Not all copy pasting are annoying and also not all users engage in such practice just to meet weekly quota, we have user doing so because they genuinely want to pass that information across and they shoudn't get punished just because some bad eggs are abusing such features of the forum.
Even though i'm a newbie, i have to agree to this argument. It's unfair to others because they looked like they made high quality post when actually they just copied and pasted everything from many different resources. This should be fix.
I mean it's okay if they search some information but copying everything just seems so wrong. Owning someone's words and making it their own is not good. Using own words and putting effort is better than copying.
I mean it's okay if they search some information but copying everything just seems so wrong. Owning someone's words and making it their own is not good. Using own words and putting effort is better than copying.
Unfortunately this is not something that can be observed only on Bitcointalk. In today's social-media dominated world, I am sure many of you have come across those new blogs and news sites that bombard you with recent headlines and clickbait. When you start reading the content, you think this is actually not bad. But then when you are done, you notice the last part that says source and points to a popular news agency. All copy/pasted word for word with no original content. But since they added the source, they are good to go. 
I think they need to add a new rule about making a post like that because I saw many posts these days copy/pasted with a source link and they are now spreading.
It's doesn't have any effort and no value unless if they added some of their own words before they copy/paste including the source link.
I know spammers change their strategy due to plagiarism at least we already see the effect of banning those who copying and pasting from another source. Now they are copying and include the source link which is still annoying.
It's doesn't have any effort and no value unless if they added some of their own words before they copy/paste including the source link.
I know spammers change their strategy due to plagiarism at least we already see the effect of banning those who copying and pasting from another source. Now they are copying and include the source link which is still annoying.
I noticed that while some people adventure into copy and paste work is because they are inquisitive to rank up to another level and also they are lazy of making their own post, it's obvious that this community is made of initiative and creativity and people that Lacks such ability is people that duely engaged into copy and paste articles, and some of them do it intensionally while some do it out of ignorance from my perspective.
Lack of ideas is what promotes these tendencies in users. It might fall within the forum rules to have put up the link and that erases the fact of a plagiarised content but, its really annoying. Coming up to discover this rule, it was such that, it applies when the content of a post is so awesome and straight to the point that adding or subtracting a line seems to change the context of the message but then, some users have capitalised on it to plagiarise and spam whole being shadowed by posting a link. It's annoying and discourages any form of originality.
I think one way to put this in check is, not meriting them and should it be an account in a signature campaign, such post should be considered a low quality post and not counted as it lacks originality.
I think one way to put this in check is, not meriting them and should it be an account in a signature campaign, such post should be considered a low quality post and not counted as it lacks originality.
If you are not putting your opinion, why would you only copy/paste this?
A lot of times, some people think that when they post a long article here, that they will be given merits.If an article is copied, and there is not sufficient additional content or commentary, the post will likely be against copyright laws. I don't think the forum attracts enough traffic, nor does this happen enough for most news organizations to really care about this happening here though.
If you are looking for prominent examples of "news-like" posts with zero-effort from a topic starter, then you should definitely check Russian locale's Hoвocти section. Thousands of topics with zero replies clearly show that no one is interested in discussing the topic if the author didn't bother to add his own thoughts. Such behavior discourages any discussions and is harmful to the forum.
i also think so, is it too difficult to make additional words that are written personally and not just copy-paste? i see those who just copy-paste articles and don't make their own words to complete the topic that will he or she made are "lazy person"
Technically these should be deleted as low value posts - rule #1 - but the enforcement of that rule is quite spotty.
My favorite: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/japan-discovers-magnetic-substance-in-pfizer-covid-vaccines-journalists-5357066
He didn't even bother to give it a proper title, just copied the same text and cut it off in the middle of a sentence. Zero effort copy-pasta spam. Report unhandled. Go figure.
maybe the moderators are tired of deleting his or her posts "lol" My favorite: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/japan-discovers-magnetic-substance-in-pfizer-covid-vaccines-journalists-5357066
He didn't even bother to give it a proper title, just copied the same text and cut it off in the middle of a sentence. Zero effort copy-pasta spam. Report unhandled. Go figure.
Technically these should be deleted as low value posts - rule #1 - but the enforcement of that rule is quite spotty.
My favorite: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/japan-discovers-magnetic-substance-in-pfizer-covid-vaccines-journalists-5357066
He didn't even bother to give it a proper title, just copied the same text and cut it off in the middle of a sentence. Zero effort copy-pasta spam. Report unhandled. Go figure.
My favorite: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/japan-discovers-magnetic-substance-in-pfizer-covid-vaccines-journalists-5357066
He didn't even bother to give it a proper title, just copied the same text and cut it off in the middle of a sentence. Zero effort copy-pasta spam. Report unhandled. Go figure.
For a so-called news site, using subdomains seem pretty sus right off the bat.
It's not a news site, it's a batshit conspiracy blog but that's besides the point, P&S board is full of that
Even if someone posted links from BBC that way, it would still be a low value post. It's a clear copy-pasta / link spam. Probably worse that what the OP described since there isn't even a quote, although just adding a quote without any attempt to make a coherent point about it and/or start a discussion would still be zero value spam and should fall under rule #1.
As soon as I saw who OP (of quoted thread) was I was like, oh Jeeezus, what a surprise. The spamming copy pasta batshit crazy, lunacy link king of the P+S Boards.
I swear if that idiot ceased his
There are a few users who used to copy/paste from different sources and share the article/news on the forum and share a source link below of the article. Basically, the users don't add anything of their own which really seems awkward...
This is nothing new on the forum, there were users who did it for a very long time, but mostly spamming the Press board. Although this form of posting is not against the rules, I also think that moderators could react much better when someone reports such a post - especially if the user, in addition to the already mentioned tactics (copy/paste), also missed the board where the post should be.
I will also give a concrete example of a user whom I believe most have noticed in Bitcoin discussion and Economy, and this is his post history @Leviathan.007.
When someone gets 4 merits for such a post, then it only encourages them to continue with it - and we all know that it is a post in which he literally invested less than 10 seconds.
For a so-called news site, using subdomains seem pretty sus right off the bat.
It's not a news site, it's a batshit conspiracy blog but that's besides the point, P&S board is full of that
Even if someone posted links from BBC that way, it would still be a low value post. It's a clear copy-pasta / link spam. Probably worse that what the OP described since there isn't even a quote, although just adding a quote without any attempt to make a coherent point about it and/or start a discussion would still be zero value spam and should fall under rule #1.
There are a few users who used to copy/paste from different sources and share the article/news on the forum and share a source link below of the article. Basically, the users don't add anything of their own which really seems awkward. If you are not putting your opinion, why would you only copy/paste this?
You should post some examples or members you noticed doing this, but I see this thing more and more especially in Bitcoin discussion section.I doubt moderators will do anything about it because it's not strictly against the rules, and I don't think it can be fixed.
What I would do is move all this posts in Press section, if they don't have anything to comment or if they copy-paste everything from original source.
Temporary solution for me is Ignoring members who repeat doing this, and my Ignore list is growing every day
Technically these should be deleted as low value posts - rule #1 - but the enforcement of that rule is quite spotty.
My favorite: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/japan-discovers-magnetic-substance-in-pfizer-covid-vaccines-journalists-5357066
He didn't even bother to give it a proper title, just copied the same text and cut it off in the middle of a sentence. Zero effort copy-pasta spam. Report unhandled. Go figure.
My favorite: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/japan-discovers-magnetic-substance-in-pfizer-covid-vaccines-journalists-5357066
He didn't even bother to give it a proper title, just copied the same text and cut it off in the middle of a sentence. Zero effort copy-pasta spam. Report unhandled. Go figure.
For a so-called news site, using subdomains seem pretty sus right off the bat.
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I too tend to report them for being cero added value post. Occasionally, if the account is a Newbie or so, I may be in the mood to try to point out why that type of post is of now value. Some change their habits, most don’t. Since they can be reported for what they are, there doesn’t seem to be any need for a change (ideally though, all copy/pasted text could/should be quoted for better visual distinction, even when a link is provided).
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Sometimes they do those to earn visitors or clicks to their own crappy articles. Not sure if they earn revenue from those, but surely it is a low value post as what suchmoon mentioned. ~
Or they do to fill up the post requirement of their campaign.
I see posts like this a lot. Many newbies like to accumulate messages to increase activity, and some even manage to get merits. I've tried complaining to the moderators, but it doesn't work, especially if it's a new topic that has already been answered by other users.
But what to say about copy-paste with the source, my last reports on plagiarism also remain unprocessed, although there is more than needed evidence. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57842377
But what to say about copy-paste with the source, my last reports on plagiarism also remain unprocessed, although there is more than needed evidence. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57842377
Don't you think this should be fix? Will the rules ever be changed?
Copying/pasting the whole contents of an article and including link can be so annoying but there can never be such rules to against such users so far the contents they copied and pasted here with link included is not considered spam, but it should be what we should be discouraging. 
I don't think it should be fix, though it's subjective. Usually this kind of posts appear on Announcement/Service thread either Bitcoin or Altcoins section, those users share a news about the project/service. Report to moderator is the best solution just like @suchmoon pointed out, but IMO campaign manager should be more strict to not count these posts if it still not got deleted yet.
Press section is the appropriate board to share a Bitcoin news in general, but for Altcoins I don't have any idea.
Press section is the appropriate board to share a Bitcoin news in general, but for Altcoins I don't have any idea.
A lot of times, some people think that when they post a long article here, that they will be given merits.
Or they do to fill up the post requirement of their campaign. 
If you are not putting your opinion, why would you only copy/paste this?
A lot of times, some people think that when they post a long article here, that they will be given merits.Don't you think this should be fix? Will the rules ever be changed?
I haven't made my mind on this. I don't think it should be totally forbidden to share articles, but it surely is annoying as some users sure do it a lot. Probably allowed if people do it once in a while(sometimes people probably just like to share certain news), but forbidden when a user does it excessively?
Technically these should be deleted as low value posts - rule #1 - but the enforcement of that rule is quite spotty.
My favorite: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/japan-discovers-magnetic-substance-in-pfizer-covid-vaccines-journalists-5357066
He didn't even bother to give it a proper title, just copied the same text and cut it off in the middle of a sentence. Zero effort copy-pasta spam. Report unhandled. Go figure.
My favorite: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/japan-discovers-magnetic-substance-in-pfizer-covid-vaccines-journalists-5357066
He didn't even bother to give it a proper title, just copied the same text and cut it off in the middle of a sentence. Zero effort copy-pasta spam. Report unhandled. Go figure.
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There are a few users who used to copy/paste from different sources and share the article/news on the forum and share a source link below of the article. Basically, the users don't add anything of their own which really seems awkward. If you are not putting your opinion, why would you only copy/paste this?
I think this is not counted as plagiarism as it has source link but this is not good too though forum allows this.
Don't you think this should be fix? Will the rules ever be changed?
I think this is not counted as plagiarism as it has source link but this is not good too though forum allows this.
Don't you think this should be fix? Will the rules ever be changed?
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