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legendary
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April 03, 2020, 10:43:17 PM
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Face masks are a decent solution because asymptomatic people are often carriers of the disease. Masks that don't seal around your face don't stop you from creating positive pressure when you breath in that'll suck in unfiltered air from the outside, however if everyone wears masks, it reduces the virus leaving the mouths/noses of people who genuinely don't know and may never know they were sick to begin with. That said in the case of a mask shortage, doctors/nurses should have them first, and thats not just for their sake but their patient's. Imagine a doctor that gets infected and then goes on to spread it to the 100 patients they see throughout the day.
Other people have the option to limit their exposure, but doctors may not have a choice.

As Franky1 mentioned there are a few reasons why Africa may not be getting hit as hard. Its not a certainty, but theres a reasonable chance that corona virus does not spread as well in hot and humid climates, as is the nature of other respiratory viruses like the flu. Ambient humidity causes moisture from your breath/coughs/etc to fall out of suspension with the surrounding air more quickly, giving it less time to get inhaled by the guy behind you in line.

I didn't see a lot of discussion about masks extending the period corona virus is around, but seeing as thats the title of the OP, thats actually somewhat true. In 1918 during the Spanish flu, Philadelphia and St Louis were the #3 and #4 largest cities in the US. Philadelphia didn't put in place measures to slow the spread, and St Louis did.



Time wise, Philadelphia had it a shorter period of time but the overall death count was far more severe. Social distancing, wearing masks, etc is going to drag this out longer, but it allows hospitals to deal with a steady inflow of patients rather than a surge that they can't handle.
legendary
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Fortunately CV WON'T last longer with facemasks. Why not? 'Cause they can't tell which side of the virus is its face!



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Will the confinement work in Africa as well? I don't think so
The situation is explosive over there.


Africa is on a better situation.
This happens because many African countries didn't have so much interaction with China or Italy let's say.
I don't think that we are going to have an outbreak there at least in the countries in the middle of the African continent.

In fact facemasks can never protect us from this epidemic The outbreak has not yet been seen in Africa. If it's like other countries it'll be lasting, but facemasks aren't an honest solution it's commonly utilized in handling situations.
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Will the confinement work in Africa as well? I don't think so
The situation is explosive over there.


Africa is on a better situation.
This happens because many African countries didn't have so much interaction with China or Italy let's say.
I don't think that we are going to have an outbreak there at least in the countries in the middle of the African continent.
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The viral transmission in objects is prevalent but I think that this is too far-fetch, the reason is that the virus is not alive when it is not in contact to a non-living thing, so in case of transmission of virus through object washing your hands or disinfect or sanitize will do the work.
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Will the confinement work in Africa as well? I don't think so
The situation is explosive over there.
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I think that facemasks are not a way to protect ourselves.
You need to wear it only if you are already infected by the virus.
If not, It is just a place that has a lot of dirt and doesn't help to keep your respiratory system healthy.
Please take into consideration, that there are different types of masks. If we're talking about regular medical masks - well they don't guarantee any protection against the virus (corona virion particle size is about 0,2 micron, while average medical mask has a size of 16-51 micron!), BUT, they can reduce the spread of droplets in which the virus resides, so, to some extent, they do help. However, there are also masks, like FFP3 type respirator masks (with pores diameter around 0,5 micron), that can prevent the virus from entering inside.
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I think that facemasks are not a way to protect ourselves.
You need to wear it only if you are already infected by the virus.
If not, It is just a place that has a lot of dirt and doesn't help to keep your respiratory system healthy.

the odds of someone on the street who has corona. (small)
passing it to a railing/pole/box (smaller)
minutes/hours/day later(smaller)
the next person then getting it onto their hand(even smaller)
that person then putting their hand against their mouth to pass it(even smaller)
is really small
its like having a handful of sand in your palm and trying to pass it on. a little is lost with each passing and only some is retained by the recipient
the idea if facemask for normal people is more about a physical reminder to not kiss peoples asses, and not suck your thumb after shaking someones hand
another reminder is. just dont do it

as for health professionals who are in close  proximity of others, not just for a 3 second walk passed but 10minutes-1hour constant contact and where EVERY person they come into contact (obviously in a hospital) is sick with it. means the chance of transmission is alot more higher. this risk is even more high of intensity because health worker are dealing with patients bodily fluids too..

so if you are worried about getting it from a stranger who walks passed you at a 2metre distance where the only 'contact' you have is a passing glance from their eyes.. think about those health workers being coughed on while they are trying to fit a respirator to peoples mouths and wiping the sweat off their patients forehead
legendary
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According to maps, Africa has very few cases of COVID-19. The cases that are there are mostly in the north and in South Africa. Are people in Africa taking things very seriously and wearing masks despite few reported cases?

africa numbers are low for two reasons. most villagers do not commute/tour africa. they stay in their small villages normally.
this does not mean africa wont get it. but it means it can take alot longer to spread and pop up in smaller spikes at different times in different places rather than in 1 large spike combined.
also many villagers just dont have family care clinics nearby to hassle on a daily bases nor supplies even if they did. so reports are sketchy at best. this does not mean people are not getting it. but that reporting ability and treating ability is less. for all we know whole villages may have it but no one is brave enough to go to the nearest city to talk about it.
they are all just huddled at home hibernating through it
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I think that facemasks are not a way to protect ourselves.
You need to wear it only if you are already infected by the virus.
If not, It is just a place that has a lot of dirt and doesn't help to keep your respiratory system healthy.
legendary
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the actual concern is not about selling second hand face masks.. sorry but it aint a thing to worry about.

the concern is 2 fold
first. mask manufactures supply to 2 industries. A. healthcare. B retail
if retailers are buying stocks of masks then there is less to supply healthcare. this then puts doctors and nurses at risk of getting it if not adequetely protected from contact. thus if doctors and nurses start getting sick. less doctor to treat patients. and patients then can be more critical due to not getting care.

secondly. home users buying masks from retailers are preventing themselves getting it right away. but later when lockdowns relax and people start to mingle. they will start getting it because they didnt have it yet. this then causes extra strain on healthcare as another round of spread occurs and as said in first fold. with less healthworkers available. again dangerous

this is why instead of telling people to wear masks and carry on walking around and meeting people. to not buy facemasks. and instead just stay home and limit touching random people/things
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According to maps, Africa has very few cases of COVID-19. The cases that are there are mostly in the north and in South Africa. Are people in Africa taking things very seriously and wearing masks despite few reported cases?
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Nope, maybe in some cases but you can't erase the fact that the main purpose of facemask is to protect other people
legendary
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This isn't how things work. Secondary transmission through used face masks are not a concern nor has it ever been a concern for any sort of pass diseases. If these masks are recycled, which is an entirely different discussion on how many are, there aren't medical professionals that exist who are concerned any residual coronavirus that would be present on the surface of these masks. This post is also ignoring the fact that coronavirus at max can only last <2 days on certain surfaces.
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They is a new advancement In the distribution of facemasks

For such a product to be dumped in such vacinity, the village will be the next target, because their water has contaminated the virus if it has been worn truly.


This actually makes sence, although we can't exactly know how many masks are being dumped and what's the real impact. Masks don't save you, but even if they reduce the spread only by 1%, there's a good chance they actually help
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They is a new advancement In the distribution of facemasks

Long before the Coronavirua outbreak, 3M company an American multination conglomerate company makes an output of more than 1.1billion N95 masks  annually while the USA health workers needs about 3.5 billion face masks alone, if the Corona virus breakout hits celestial degree. Which is probably how large amount of people will get infected, by buying facemasks that has been used by the health sectors, sold by retailers that wash them in bulk, allow them to dry, then resell to citizens, few days ago facemasks worth 270USD was found close to a water pipeline in bhiwandi India. For such a product to be dumped in such vacinity, the village will be the next target, because their water has contaminated the virus if it has been worn truly.

  A good amount  of the masses in Africa, where I come from, focus on the masks instead of keeping a personal  hygiene, like washing their hands with sanitizers, which prevents the virus through a handshake with an infected patient. I recommend people to keep a good hygiene and stay quarantined, so that We can achieve a better objective of eradicating the virus totally, rather than buying products, that will help in spreading the virus, even after the problem has been solved.

References https://www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/guid/4E98F973-4746-4E68-88DB-7A3001D1B28E article about the distribution of facemasks

https://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/mumbai/crime/1lakh-masks-dumped-in-bhiwandi/articleshow/74543028.cms this article is written concerning how facemasks are been dumped and reused.

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