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legendary
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I agree, corporations are never going to lose, if governments raise the taxes corporations have to pay,they will fire some of their employees, raise the prices of their products and still use their lawyers to somehow avoid to pay those taxes, so it is not surprising they are doing the same with high inflation, as such this should not be a surprise to anyone as this is a trend that happens all over the world, which in return generates more inflation creating a vicious circle in the process.

Well.. corporations are always profit oriented. They have the best lawyers and CAs, and if there is a loophole available to avoid taxes, then they will use that. Actually you can't blame the corporations for that. They are making use of the existing law and not really doing anything that is illegal. If the governments have a problem with that, then they should remove these loopholes from the system. Anyway, everyone benefits in the end. Higher price means a lower P/E ratio and higher stock price in the long run. And those who invest in the stock market benefits as a result.
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My country has quite an experience with the inflation. It was quite high not that many years ago and even now it's not so small.
We used to see how each time the USD price took a jump, the gasoline price did the same.
But there were periods of time the USD price was calming down, and slowly even falling. Guess what? The gasoline price most often no longer followed the trend.

My point is: inflation was always used an excuse for fatten the profits. It's nothing new really. Basically the new thing is that this time it happens also in U.S. of A.
I agree, corporations are never going to lose, if governments raise the taxes corporations have to pay,they will fire some of their employees, raise the prices of their products and still use their lawyers to somehow avoid to pay those taxes, so it is not surprising they are doing the same with high inflation, as such this should not be a surprise to anyone as this is a trend that happens all over the world, which in return generates more inflation creating a vicious circle in the process.



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legendary
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My country has quite an experience with the inflation. It was quite high not that many years ago and even now it's not so small.
We used to see how each time the USD price took a jump, the gasoline price did the same.
But there were periods of time the USD price was calming down, and slowly even falling. Guess what? The gasoline price most often no longer followed the trend.

My point is: inflation was always used an excuse for fatten the profits. It's nothing new really. Basically the new thing is that this time it happens also in U.S. of A.
I agree, corporations are never going to lose, if governments raise the taxes corporations have to pay,they will fire some of their employees, raise the prices of their products and still use their lawyers to somehow avoid to pay those taxes, so it is not surprising they are doing the same with high inflation, as such this should not be a surprise to anyone as this is a trend that happens all over the world, which in return generates more inflation creating a vicious circle in the process.
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Inflation is hiding behind lockdowns right now.  When (if) the world goes back to normal, inflation will spike and it will begin to show itself in everyday life.  

Not at all.
The lockdown are the ones causing a lot of the inflation, offer, and demand, if you don't have enough poeple working to supply the needs for other poeple you have inflation even without money printing, there is simply no way to avoid it.
So if the wave passes and everyone returns to work a lot of sectors will actually start to see decreasing inflation, some prices might actually start going back as oversupply might kick in. Also in 3 months winter will be gone, in Europe's case, this will trigger a slowdown in demand for gas and fuel, and electricity, coming with higher production from the now zero in the useless solar panels Germany has spent billions on.

Right now, money is not changing hands enough for real price discovery.  Assets are in a bubble and commodities are all over the place.

Nothing to do with common good inflation and price discovery has not that much to do with the velocity of money. The main drives between price discovery are the number of sellers and buyers, we already have these figured out since we have inflation.
If you're mentioning assets then maybe you're talking about valuation over cash flow, but this is of no relevance to inflation in necessity goods.

Velocity of money directly inverted at the same rate of money printing.  This is the ONLY reason USD is still afloat.  Once velocity returns to the market and the supply chain is back to normal, the price of goods and services will spike.  Assets are in a bubble because people are trying to dump their fiat before this happens.

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Inflation is hiding behind lockdowns right now.  When (if) the world goes back to normal, inflation will spike and it will begin to show itself in everyday life.  

Not at all.
The lockdown are the ones causing a lot of the inflation, offer, and demand, if you don't have enough poeple working to supply the needs for other poeple you have inflation even without money printing, there is simply no way to avoid it.
So if the wave passes and everyone returns to work a lot of sectors will actually start to see decreasing inflation, some prices might actually start going back as oversupply might kick in. Also in 3 months winter will be gone, in Europe's case, this will trigger a slowdown in demand for gas and fuel, and electricity, coming with higher production from the now zero in the useless solar panels Germany has spent billions on.

Right now, money is not changing hands enough for real price discovery.  Assets are in a bubble and commodities are all over the place.

Nothing to do with common good inflation and price discovery has not that much to do with the velocity of money. The main drives between price discovery are the number of sellers and buyers, we already have these figured out since we have inflation.
If you're mentioning assets then maybe you're talking about valuation over cash flow, but this is of no relevance to inflation in necessity goods.
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This is called deflection.  Inflation is hiding behind lockdowns right now.  When (if) the world goes back to normal, inflation will spike and it will begin to show itself in everyday life.  Right now, money is not changing hands enough for real price discovery.  Assets are in a bubble and commodities are all over the place. Corporations are greedy and of course they will raise prices to match inflation, but they have no idea what their true prices even are yet.
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Hihi, yeah let the blame game begin.
First the pagans than the Christians, the nobility then the kulaks, now it's the century where everything should be blamed on corporations, whatever that category would include.

The most ironic thing in this whole fiasco is that for once the actual inflation is only to be blamed on the or governments themselves, they are the ones who made all the moves with a lot of them pretty bad during the virus waves, and they're the ones with the shifting energy policies that triggered rises in energy prices and the main cause for price increases. But yeah, they need a scapegoat for being morons and of course, bussinesinsider who has turned into a propaganda mouthpiece that is against every free business environment lately is seeking any excuse possible for Biden's government.

Easy solution, let's blame the corporations for failed energy policies and money printing, then use the voting mob to slap them with more taxes, crush them completely, and after a few years be forced to either bail them out or use the entire economy crumble in pieces. History repeats itself over and over, complete with the fact that the morons in charge never learn anything from the previous failure.

This is the "norm"! This is how a person is made. "An ordinary man" - never admits his guilt in what is happening, he will always look for someone who is to blame for his problems! To admit to yourself that you are doing wrong is stupid - this is not for the person making up the crowd. Such entities must necessarily have someone (and not necessarily one) who will be to blame for their problems. Someone is necessarily to blame for the fact that there is no high-paying job, and when you say - what you did not study, did not study the professions in demand, the answer is identical - someone prevented him from getting an education. And so in everything. But it's easier to live this way - your soul is calm that it is not you who are stupid, lazy, afraid of difficulties, afraid not to master simple things, and it is someone who is to blame ...
legendary
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Hihi, yeah let the blame game begin.
First the pagans than the Christians, the nobility then the kulaks, now it's the century where everything should be blamed on corporations, whatever that category would include.

The most ironic thing in this whole fiasco is that for once the actual inflation is only to be blamed on the or governments themselves, they are the ones who made all the moves with a lot of them pretty bad during the virus waves, and they're the ones with the shifting energy policies that triggered rises in energy prices and the main cause for price increases. But yeah, they need a scapegoat for being morons and of course, bussinesinsider who has turned into a propaganda mouthpiece that is against every free business environment lately is seeking any excuse possible for Biden's government.

Easy solution, let's blame the corporations for failed energy policies and money printing, then use the voting mob to slap them with more taxes, crush them completely, and after a few years be forced to either bail them out or use the entire economy crumble in pieces. History repeats itself over and over, complete with the fact that the morons in charge never learn anything from the previous failure.

legendary
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I believe many posters in the topic also have not truly understood that increasing Inflation + Price Controls = longer, deeper and more volatile Economic Depressions. We should research what happened to the Soviet Union.
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The issue is corporations raising prices to enlarge profit margins.

Rather the real issue is government. Government is the first culprit of the issue not cooperation because they should take order from the government. Therefore if there is proper regulation and monitoring that is devoid of corruption and bribes from defaulters of the regulation , certain issues won't arise . Government has a role to play in getting rates down like taxes and make raw materials cheaper to access and will help cooperations to follow from the regulation. For example, a corruption shouldn't have the right to fix prices of goods they produce above the regulated price, if this happens it will keep cost of living up and inflation will set in. This is just a circle that I believe government has a major role to play and not just printing of money leading to inflation.
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Its domino effect towards that happening and only greedy businessmen gain from this and the one who suffer are those people who live on pay their pay checks so maybe its good for government to take action on this and always monitor on what oligarch does since if they let the rich men run the economy and the government will be their puppet then for sure the economy sinks and poverty will be rampant in the country.
Governments, or more precisely the politicians that decide on what the government should do, gets paid bribes and that's how oligarchs stay wealthy. They get laws passed for themselves. Just the biggest example is the oil industry, they give money to politicians and then pollute and kill the planet as they wish while the whole humanity hurts because of it whereas they are racking up more profits.

Same with everything else, people end up doing whatever they want to do and end up bribing the politicians for doing it and politicians are not really doing anything about it and that's why I feel like we are not going to see something decent made by the government to protect the people like us who live pay check to pay check.
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According to this, the issue isn't overprinting of fiat currency or inflation. The issue is corporations raising prices to enlarge profit margins. They cite market centralization in some industries as a culprit and suggest anti trust laws against monopolies as the ideal method to break up unethical monopolies and encourage decentralization of the economy. There is another angle mentioned where centralized markets are accused of potential price fixing, which could set the stage for a future proposal of government price controls, gradual shift to a planned economy or stronger state nationalization of the private sector at a later date.

There is a strong precedent for many of these trends occurring in countries outside the united states recently. Does anyone know which nations followed similar trends and what the eventual results were? Is inflation on the part of the state responsible for negative financial and economic issues, or do corporations and the private sector bear the burden of the blame? I hope we can collectively figure out answers to these questions, and determine how to address them before they become too large and devastating to be prevented. The clock is ticking and time is not on our side, unfortunately.

At the same time, do not forget - we ourselves will become the final assistant and acceptance of this rise in prices. If we continue to buy an unjustifiably expensive product - who is to blame? Corporations? No, we ourselves, paying our money for an unjustifiably risen product, say "yes, take our money, we like it, raise it more, we'll get it out of our wallets." Why not stop bulk buying such products? There are alternatives anytime, anywhere
Since the demand for goods is expected to increase, a company knows that their goods are in great demand so increasing margins makes us inevitably have to pay for them. Although this clearly makes the goods will be more and more hunted. You're right we paid dearly and we love it. If there are other alternatives, it certainly does not mean that the price of an item will have the same quality. Therefore, companies know that the holdings generated by them have a market of their own. Finding other alternatives that fit the criteria is not easy. So we buy their stuff and they will get more demand.
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According to this, the issue isn't overprinting of fiat currency or inflation. The issue is corporations raising prices to enlarge profit margins. They cite market centralization in some industries as a culprit and suggest anti trust laws against monopolies as the ideal method to break up unethical monopolies and encourage decentralization of the economy. There is another angle mentioned where centralized markets are accused of potential price fixing, which could set the stage for a future proposal of government price controls, gradual shift to a planned economy or stronger state nationalization of the private sector at a later date.

There is a strong precedent for many of these trends occurring in countries outside the united states recently. Does anyone know which nations followed similar trends and what the eventual results were? Is inflation on the part of the state responsible for negative financial and economic issues, or do corporations and the private sector bear the burden of the blame? I hope we can collectively figure out answers to these questions, and determine how to address them before they become too large and devastating to be prevented. The clock is ticking and time is not on our side, unfortunately.

At the same time, do not forget - we ourselves will become the final assistant and acceptance of this rise in prices. If we continue to buy an unjustifiably expensive product - who is to blame? Corporations? No, we ourselves, paying our money for an unjustifiably risen product, say "yes, take our money, we like it, raise it more, we'll get it out of our wallets." Why not stop bulk buying such products? There are alternatives anytime, anywhere
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So, basically, it's assumed that the prices are rising exactly in accordance with the inflation rate.

My thought is so simple, why does the price of goods rise when inflation rises? the answer is the raw materials for production have also increased due to the value of money which is no longer valuable, and the funny thing is that the government when inflation increased during this pandemic did not even increase the minimum wage for workers. As a result, the wages they receive will not be able to meet the basic needs of their families. The current economic system is very cruel for those of us who are poor.

Its domino effect towards that happening and only greedy businessmen gain from this and the one who suffer are those people who live on pay their pay checks so maybe its good for government to take action on this and always monitor on what oligarch does since if they let the rich men run the economy and the government will be their puppet then for sure the economy sinks and poverty will be rampant in the country.
legendary
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Your vendetta against corporations is misguided.

If the prices at Walmart are too high, then you can simply shop elsewhere. Nobody is forcing anybody to shop at Walmart. Profits are high because people continue to choose to shop at Walmart, even as they raise prices.

Yes, although in the supermarket sector they have more room for maneuver than in others, let's say furniture for example, where if they raise prices a lot and you were thinking of changing furniture you can go years without buying new ones.

With food, you can go to another supermarket, you can buy things cheaper and you can even fast, but in the end you have to buy food much more frequently than you buy furniture.

The source is probably written by some political activist with no understanding of economics.
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The government will tell you its corporate greed causing inflation because it causes you to demonize free market economics and capitalism. They will do anything to shift blame away from themselves in causing an inflation crisis because the sad truth is, most people will believe corporations are responsible for the higher prices. After all, it's the corporations that determine what their products will cost, correct? The answer, of course, is no, it is a free market that determines the prices. And in a market with too large a demand due to increased money supply, the prices of the products increase.

I was thinking something like that. I don't believe that all private companies are angelic beings either, but in a context of massive currency printing with high energy costs that affect all prices, it strikes me that the focus is on companies and not on government policies that are the main cause of inflation. It may be that some companies in some sectors can take advantage of this to inflate prices, but consumers' money is not infinite. If this were something that companies did across the board, in the end they would be forced to lower prices because people would run out of money immediately and would not be able to buy. With less demand you have to lower the price or you run out of sales.



There is something our there called pricing power, and it is one of the forces that Porter describes as the ones that configure the market and the competitive position of the companies. Those companies that enjoy some type of monopoly or leadership in the market that allow price-setting usually have the price already set to the point in which they obtain either maximum profit or maximum market (to deter competence). Those companies that compete in open markets and have saturated markets with little differentiation cannot set the price.

When inflation comes to e.g. the food market which is quite open and has little barriers to entry, it means that traders cannot be greedy as they would simply not sell. This is simply the market in action.
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So, basically, it's assumed that the prices are rising exactly in accordance with the inflation rate.

My thought is so simple, why does the price of goods rise when inflation rises? the answer is the raw materials for production have also increased due to the value of money which is no longer valuable, and the funny thing is that the government when inflation increased during this pandemic did not even increase the minimum wage for workers. As a result, the wages they receive will not be able to meet the basic needs of their families. The current economic system is very cruel for those of us who are poor.
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Companies making profit and hiding behind inflation is one of the ugly sides of capitalism. Regarding the question of inflation and corporations, I think the inflation is making money decrease somewhat in value, but then the corporations make it even worse by raising the prices for consumers disproportionately.
I wanted to learn if the same happened in my country, but couldn't because the data on 2021 isn't available yet. From the things I googled, it's common for top supermarket chains in my country to actually report losses, not profits (I'm very unsure about the honesty of such reports), and the one that did report profits, had them increased by 20% in 2020 compared to 2019, but that's not exactly the data I was looking for. Also, a funny thing: in my country, apparently such investigations aren't being made at all, as, when I googled our inflation rate, the top result has shown me a table with numbers, and a message that 'the inflation index' is the same thing as 'the index of consumer prices'. So, basically, it's assumed that the prices are rising exactly in accordance with the inflation rate.
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That's how the economy works for you.

Everyone tries to pass on the production costs, and then some. After all no one is really interested in the greater good.

This is also the reason why inflation was always going to be inevitable and no way in hell was it going to be transitory. It is something that is programmed into how the fiat system is set up from the get-go.
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I just don't know what to think about this article.  It's baffling to me.  Obviously Business Insider's aim was to write an inflammatory article, which you know just by looking at the title, but the relationship between corporate profits and inflation seems like it should be a typical thing that happens during inflationary periods. 

In this case, demand and/or the money supply increases so people are buying more things--and that would drive up the price.  At the same time (and as noted by the Colgate-Palmolive CEO) raw materials are getting more expensive, and there's also the issue of global currency fluctuations.  Why wouldn't corporations hike up the prices of the finished goods?  Why does this warrant an article attempting to stir up outrage?

In addition, I'd really love to see the annual report of Colgate-Palmolive from 60 years ago.  I'm betting their quarterly/annual profits were much less in absolute dollar terms than they are in 2021.  If that's true, it seems kind of like how wages have risen over the years and have more or less adjusted for inflation.  My head isn't quite wrapped around the complexities here, but my gut is telling me that the topic of this article is "The rich get richer!!" and Business Insider ought to know that this is all business as usual.
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According to this, the issue isn't overprinting of fiat currency or inflation. The issue is corporations raising prices to enlarge profit margins. They cite market centralization in some industries as a culprit and suggest anti trust laws against monopolies as the ideal method to break up unethical monopolies and encourage decentralization of the economy. There is another angle mentioned where centralized markets are accused of potential price fixing, which could set the stage for a future proposal of government price controls, gradual shift to a planned economy or stronger state nationalization of the private sector at a later date.

There is a strong precedent for many of these trends occurring in countries outside the united states recently. Does anyone know which nations followed similar trends and what the eventual results were? Is inflation on the part of the state responsible for negative financial and economic issues, or do corporations and the private sector bear the burden of the blame? I hope we can collectively figure out answers to these questions, and determine how to address them before they become too large and devastating to be prevented. The clock is ticking and time is not on our side, unfortunately.

The US corporate structure is set up to squeeze as much out of customers as possible in order to hand it over to shareholders. Management who do not pursue this line of reasoning are quickly replaced in most companies. It is inevitable that costs will rise and have to be factored into the costs of products - for example if you are a bottled drinks manufacturer and the price of plastic goes up, you have two options: 1) eat the cost which results in lower profits 2) pass the cost on to consumers. They might take option 1 for a little while but option 2 becomes inevitable over time. It actually makes sense, if you think inflation keeps rising, to tack a little extra on the top so you don't have to raise prices further so soon in future.
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According to this, the issue isn't overprinting of fiat currency or inflation. The issue is corporations raising prices to enlarge profit margins. They cite market centralization in some industries as a culprit and suggest anti trust laws against monopolies as the ideal method to break up unethical monopolies and encourage decentralization of the economy. There is another angle mentioned where centralized markets are accused of potential price fixing, which could set the stage for a future proposal of government price controls, gradual shift to a planned economy or stronger state nationalization of the private sector at a later date.

There is a strong precedent for many of these trends occurring in countries outside the united states recently. Does anyone know which nations followed similar trends and what the eventual results were? Is inflation on the part of the state responsible for negative financial and economic issues, or do corporations and the private sector bear the burden of the blame? I hope we can collectively figure out answers to these questions, and determine how to address them before they become too large and devastating to be prevented. The clock is ticking and time is not on our side, unfortunately.


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In the United States, do you believe that? It’s very laughable that they’re trying to make a narrative that inflation isn’t the government and the Federal Reserve’s fault. Plus if the issue is with corporations, why is Jerome Powell saying that there’s a need for tapering and to raise rates three times this year? Cool
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natural resources aren't infinite, well most of them aren't so when that happens, the production of a product that has that problem will increase their prices. Also, corporations will pay more too when the inflation increases
very correct. Inflation has it's toll on businesses and corporations too, It increases operational cost and to stay in operation and not fold up, these corporations sometimes have to slightly adjust the prices of goods, not necessarily to fatten profit but to maintain profit. Although there is the possibility that some corporations take advantage of inflation to fatten profits, it is not always the case.
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Your vendetta against corporations is misguided.

If the prices at Walmart are too high, then you can simply shop elsewhere. Nobody is forcing anybody to shop at Walmart. Profits are high because people continue to choose to shop at Walmart, even as they raise prices.

Yes, although in the supermarket sector they have more room for maneuver than in others, let's say furniture for example, where if they raise prices a lot and you were thinking of changing furniture you can go years without buying new ones.

With food, you can go to another supermarket, you can buy things cheaper and you can even fast, but in the end you have to buy food much more frequently than you buy furniture.

The source is probably written by some political activist with no understanding of economics.
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The government will tell you its corporate greed causing inflation because it causes you to demonize free market economics and capitalism. They will do anything to shift blame away from themselves in causing an inflation crisis because the sad truth is, most people will believe corporations are responsible for the higher prices. After all, it's the corporations that determine what their products will cost, correct? The answer, of course, is no, it is a free market that determines the prices. And in a market with too large a demand due to increased money supply, the prices of the products increase.

I was thinking something like that. I don't believe that all private companies are angelic beings either, but in a context of massive currency printing with high energy costs that affect all prices, it strikes me that the focus is on companies and not on government policies that are the main cause of inflation. It may be that some companies in some sectors can take advantage of this to inflate prices, but consumers' money is not infinite. If this were something that companies did across the board, in the end they would be forced to lower prices because people would run out of money immediately and would not be able to buy. With less demand you have to lower the price or you run out of sales.

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The money printing is only one aspect of inflation.

This is the more important cause of inflation - which is that there is significant markups (cost-push) and panic buying (demand-pull) in all sectors of the economy, especially in terms of semiconductors.

Not sustainable at all, fiat is going to struggle to outperform any asset class.
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From what I heard a CEO in our nation said, it is both a way to make more profit, but also they defend it by saying they do not know what the inflation will be like in the future so they are trying to price that in instead. If you make 100 bucks today for selling something that will be 150 bucks tomorrow, then you basically made a loss. Sure you spent 50 bucks, and got 100 in return, but you could have waited another day and make 150 instead.

Numbers are just made up, of course it is not that much difference, but you get the point, usually it is more like buy for 3.60, sell for 4.20 and rises to 4.40 instead type of deal. So this is their defense, obviously it is a lie, obviously they would still make a profit, it is only important on how much they spent to buy and how much they profit before they sell it, but it is obvious that they do not care about it all that much.
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I don't think so, natural resources aren't infinite, well most of them aren't so when that happens, the production of a product that has that problem will increase their prices. Also, corporations will pay more too when the inflation increases, it's just that they have a really good place to fall back when a big crisis comes.
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Profit that is the only aim of every company in this world so I won't be surprised if they are still making money no matter the inflation rate increases. But the actual value of the products also increased but not enough demand so big corporates can able to invest and buy them for the cheaper prices but in bulk then they can able to sell them for the current market price.
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Something like that assertion only shows a deep lack of understanding of how a market works. Companies worth of that name are there for profit and that is their main goal. If the management does not maximise profit for the shareholder they will be fired and replaced with someone that actually does. The basics are as simple as that, even though there are cases in which management may have enough power to seek their own agenda.

Yes, companies that have pricing power will rise prices as much as they can and that is just how capitalism works. If you want to change that, change the laws and change the system... and good luck doing that in the US particularly.
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The source is probably written by some political activist with no understanding of economics.

Inflation calculators do not use singular entities in order to calculate inflation. They're not using the price of individual products from individual companies, and comparing the price year over year. The inflation calculation occurs over entire sectors, averaging out the increase in prices. Is it coincidence that the inflation rate for nearly all developed nations increases the moment economies are shut down and an indefinite supply of money is injected into the economy? Nonsense.

For the inflation crisis to be the fault of corporations, you would need to see entire sectors collude with each other, including many corporations, to raise their prices collectively. That's not how things work.

The government will tell you its corporate greed causing inflation because it causes you to demonize free market economics and capitalism. They will do anything to shift blame away from themselves in causing an inflation crisis because the sad truth is, most people will believe corporations are responsible for the higher prices. After all, it's the corporations that determine what their products will cost, correct? The answer, of course, is no, it is a free market that determines the prices. And in a market with too large a demand due to increased money supply, the prices of the products increase.
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I think the statements of Former US Labor Secretary Robert Reich are trying to pay attention to a symptom or a side effect of a disease, not a disease. Corporate profits have increased due to monopoly and centralization, but if inflation rates do not rise, companies will not find a motif in the increases.
In addition to the uncertainty, freight price increase, economic war, supply chain problems and others, many companies will find an opportunity to increase their prices, but where is the government role, especially in times of fluctuations that need some interventions.

Companies are guilty, but blaming them without focusing on economic problems is unrealistic.
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Inflation is always good for the rich and always bad for the poor.
I can change that saying a little bit by saying that inflation is always good for the big corporations and always bad for the small businesses.
There was a theory in macroeconomics,called "theory of rational expectations"(I don't know if I remember the name correctly). According to this theory,if everyone in a society is talking about inflation and expecting a price increase,the inflation will happen for sure.This is like a self fulfilling prophecy,because all the companies will use these expectations as an excuse to increase the prices.It doesn't matter whether or not they have a legit reason to increase the prices.
All the big US corporations bragging about fat profits won't keep bragging forever,because the prices of raw materials,energy and labor will have to increase as well.
  
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But don't forget that the real value of the dollar profits also affected by inflation. It's possible, even with the increased profit margin, the real value of USD profits falls below what stated years ago. But I think the inflation problem is deeper than just raising prices. For example, with such goods scarcity and economic instability, small businesses tend to go bankrupt quicker than big corporations, thus eliminating competition, and in the end, reflected on accounting report: good sales, fat profits, etc.
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It is impossible for a company to increase prices at will without excess market power, perhaps because it monopolizes the market, unfair competition, and government support.  Usually this happens in countries that free the private sector to carry out their activities in the market without being controlled by the government.  The impact of inflation is not only due to financial stability problems but also the market itself.  Inflation is not always bad when referring to fiat glasses because the indicator of economic growth is inflation that is maintained.  This is proof that it is impossible for the time value of money to increase as it always decreases.

In this case, the best example is a group of small stores in your area. If you have a cheap price, the other stores will usually follow. If you have a higher price, they will still follow. They are just talking about the price because they don't want customers to go to the cheapest one. Because there is a lot of demand and they are the only store, there are times when they talk about raising the price because the customer doesn't have a choice. When prices go up, even though they bought them at a lower price, the demand goes up so that they can make a lot of money.
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It is impossible for a company to increase prices at will without excess market power, perhaps because it monopolizes the market, unfair competition, and government support.  Usually this happens in countries that free the private sector to carry out their activities in the market without being controlled by the government.  The impact of inflation is not only due to financial stability problems but also the market itself.  Inflation is not always bad when referring to fiat glasses because the indicator of economic growth is inflation that is maintained.  This is proof that it is impossible for the time value of money to increase as it always decreases.
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I think this is how these corporation using the advantage of inflation to raise the prices of basic goods without any consideration to raise the minimum wage of the workers. It makes the poor becomes poorer so working your entire life isn't enough to rise from poverty I think. One should have a legit business and use that advantage too but the consumer would have to suffer too but that's how reality works if you won't buy they don't have a problem as long as someone didn't offers a decrease of price. But most of the time they are using the promo like n% off to attract customers yet it's just basically the normal price since they start and you aren't getting less just because of the promo.
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Seriously, these corporations are part of the problems that we are having. Every little thing that happens, they start increasing the price of every product, and the most annoying part of all these things is that once they up the price they never bring it down again, it just stays that way, and things would keep getting expensive.

They always look for every opportunity for them to up the price of their products, and apart from that one they would also go ahead to reduce the quantity and quality of their products, which is the one that annoys me a lot. It’s really high time they start the price controlling thing on these corporations, seriously.
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Your vendetta against corporations is misguided.

If the prices at Walmart are too high, then you can simply shop elsewhere. Nobody is forcing anybody to shop at Walmart. Profits are high because people continue to choose to shop at Walmart, even as they raise prices.
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I don't know now, but, at least when I was living in the US 8 years ago, that wasn't my experience at all. In fact, it was quite the opposite: corporations (especially wal- mart) would avoid rising prices like the plague.
Now in Argentina, everybody will use ANY excuse (real or not) to hike prices. The result is prices that are at least 3 times higher (in USD) than anywhere else, sometimes a lot more.
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I think we need to accept that businesses/corporations wouldn't change anything if they are profiting from it. So if raising prices to enlarge their profit margins is the way for them to make more, you can bet that it would continue. So it's the behavior of the people in charge in the corporations are the culprit. I think that's why monopolies shouldn't stay in power for too long because they can have that power. Or if the monopoly practices the decentralization applications of any types, then it could set a standard towards the economy.

I think this is the reason why stocks are rising as well in price because the general trend that we have, if we based on historical data too that the reason for inflation is wanting to profit more by businesses and every other thing will follow.
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I believe all the developing nations are having the same issues. For example when I talk about my native country : India, the government does not just fail to handle corruption but at the same time they are unable to keep their currency at a stable rate. Poverty, pollution, education to name a few a lot of money is passed from the central government but at the end what the net profit for the people is even less than 1%, that makes these issues worse which causes problems with the crime, literacy, keeping the poor people in the web of poverty, the rich gets richer and the poor gets poorer. The printing is not a major issue, they have been discussing if it would be a good idea, therefore the government is literally not able to balance anything and the inflation is rising drastically. According to the state it can be 5-5.2% from the next year which is so much worse!! Right now it's around 6% and a healthy inflation rate should only be around 2%.
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My country has quite an experience with the inflation. It was quite high not that many years ago and even now it's not so small.
We used to see how each time the USD price took a jump, the gasoline price did the same.
But there were periods of time the USD price was calming down, and slowly even falling. Guess what? The gasoline price most often no longer followed the trend.

My point is: inflation was always used an excuse for fatten the profits. It's nothing new really. Basically the new thing is that this time it happens also in U.S. of A.
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We could all be living the same reality, cause this is exactly the scenario in my country. Inflation has been a major issue for so many years and we've seen prices of good increase from 100-1000% or even more over the past ten years, greatly increasing the cost of living, without any consideration of workers earning a living wage.

Large cooperations and even smaller ones with no monopoly hike the value of their goods and services during periods of inflation or economic crisis and may of them do not revert back to their previous prices if/when the market normalizes, so years of compounded hikes in prices has created this scenario where goods are grossly over priced, and supply is thinned out.

Does anyone know which nations followed similar trends and what the eventual results were?
The results here is a massive increase in poverty rate, which results to a somewhat commensurate increase in crime rate.

Is inflation on the part of the state responsible for negative financial and economic issues, or do corporations and the private sector bear the burden of the blame?
I would say it is primarily a result of actions from the state, cooperations simply exacerbate an existing situation by using it to their advantage.
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Consumer prices are going up, but corporate profits are rising even faster.

Walmart, which announced third-quarter financial results this morning, was able to post better-than-expected earnings in part by offering fewer discounts to shoppers, but a lot of large firms have spent their recent quarterly calls bragging to investors about their ability to hike prices with relative impunity.

"What we are very good at is pricing," Colgate-Palmolive CEO Noel Wallace said. "Whether it's foreign exchange inflation or raw and packing material inflation, we have found ways over time to recover that in our margin line."

"We've been very comfortable with our ability to pass on the increases that we've seen at this point," Kroger CFO Gary Millerchip said in October. "And we would expect that to continue to be the case."

Corporations have a tendency to try and boost profit margins during periods of elevated inflation, The Wall Street Journal reported, and now is no different.

Roughly two-thirds of the largest publicly traded US companies have reported better profits this year than the same period in 2019, the WSJ found, citing FactSet data. Nearly 100 of those were performing at least 50% better this year than in 2019.

Former US Labor Secretary Robert Reich called this phenomenon a "symptom" of "the economic concentration of the American economy in the hands of a relative few corporate giants with the power to raise prices."

Inflation may be a problem for consumers, but the bigger issue is a lack of competition, Reich said.

"Corporations are using the excuse of inflation to raise prices and make fatter profits," he said.

American industries have gotten dramatically more concentrated in recent decades, diminishing the number of market competitors and increasing corporate price-taking power.

Corporate pre-tax profits as a share of total US output has also reached a multi-year high of 13.5% in the second quarter, which means that companies are taking an even larger slice of the economic pie. And that number is trending higher.

For example, consumer goods giants Unilever, Proctor and Gamble, and Colgate-Palmolive have remarkably similar portfolios of brands selling similar products, and each reported improved profits from higher pricing in the third quarter. Coca-Cola and PepsiCo also rolled out price increases around the same time.

This is not to say that there is illegal price-fixing going on, but having so few players in the game makes it a lot easier for companies to follow similar strategies.

Even the auto industry, which is pretty competitive compared with other consumer goods categories, is currently navigating its own version of the classic "prisoners dilemma" from economic game theory.

High demand and low supply has allowed most companies to boost profits by offering fewer discounts — a move automakers have wanted to do for decades — but the minute one company starts cutting deals to take market share, the others will soon face pressure to follow.

Input costs are indeed making it more expensive for businesses to provide goods and services, but the healthy profits that companies are taking in show that they're doing just fine as consumers increasingly see their buying power evaporate.

The remedy, Reich says, is not a higher interest rate from the Federal Reserve, which would likely slow down the economic recovery.

"This structural problem is amenable to only one thing: the aggressive use of antitrust law," he said.

https://www.businessinsider.com/corporations-using-inflation-as-excuse-to-reap-fatter-profits-reich-2021-11


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According to this, the issue isn't overprinting of fiat currency or inflation. The issue is corporations raising prices to enlarge profit margins. They cite market centralization in some industries as a culprit and suggest anti trust laws against monopolies as the ideal method to break up unethical monopolies and encourage decentralization of the economy. There is another angle mentioned where centralized markets are accused of potential price fixing, which could set the stage for a future proposal of government price controls, gradual shift to a planned economy or stronger state nationalization of the private sector at a later date.

There is a strong precedent for many of these trends occurring in countries outside the united states recently. Does anyone know which nations followed similar trends and what the eventual results were? Is inflation on the part of the state responsible for negative financial and economic issues, or do corporations and the private sector bear the burden of the blame? I hope we can collectively figure out answers to these questions, and determine how to address them before they become too large and devastating to be prevented. The clock is ticking and time is not on our side, unfortunately.

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