Topic: Could a mod look at this member please. (Read 1259 times)

No, stop drawing to conclusions based on your own political bias. The moderators who are able to do something in this situations (or similar ones) are not 'strong' supporters of any implementation from what I've seen. They have avoided participating in those discussions. Just because they may or may not agree with you that does not mean they're biased.

Just a big 'no' to this suggestion. There is currently no option to report several posts at once either.

I guess it works better by reporting specific off-topic post, that would be more convenient for Mod's and you to take appropriate action. Not sure if there's a way to report multiple replies in one go, that might make it easier to report cases like this.

"Could a mod look at this member please."


Good call.
Rules for some not for others.
Politics eh? (and a personal snub to me to boot, love from all the mods.)
Loud and clear.


Carlton seems to be serving a self imposed ban.
Hopefully he is giving this topic some thought.

Seems I did not need the help of these politically restricted, partisan mods, anyway.

Ah Lauda, thanks.
(then why are we arguing about weather they have seen this issue then? why do I still need to pm?)


Thanks, you have helped in that direction. As you (kind of said) rule 2 and 3 apply here.


There is no way there is two equally off topic trolling posters.
If you think that is the case, maybe you should post your evidence here.


We both know it is almost certain.

Why jump to conclusions? I have altered one a few days back but don't recall a direct response to this particular thread as they were quite busy at the time.


You've said it yourself: "I don't pretend to fully understand this forums rules.". I'm just trying to direct you towards the right direction, those posts would most likely not be removed due to rule 1 and a punishment would definitely not be handed out because of it.

No, it is not. Both are at fault and both broke the rules from my perspective. Whether that deserves a punishment and what kind of punishment is to be determined by global moderators.

I can't know that.

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Update: I've sent them another message at the time of writing of this post.

Ok. We both know the chances are they have almost certainly read this thread.
You clearly have not alerted them, as staff on Bitcointalk.


So rules 2 and 3 apply. I agree.
You will notice I said well not quite about rule 8. Just showing undesirability in this members general approach and attitude.
The posts seem very rule 1 to me, but ok, off topic trolling is fine.

I would say the other party you speak of (presuming i'm correct) should have stopped trying to explain anything directly to Carlton as it was clear carlton was trolling. (but even you quoted carlton)
However, the other party you speak of (i haven't checked figures) seemed to stay on topic.
(remember, all 18 carlton off topic trolling posts i have listed do not relate in any way to the thread title or direction. they are additional to the possible rule 8 posts)
The other party you speak of was not the only receiver of the offending posts.

Are you kind of saying, it is ok to chat off topic between yourselves?
How does that fit with "Do not post off-topic replies" - Theymos.



Ok thanks for sharing.

It is still not late to PM either one of them (or grue) and ask for input.
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We both know they are reading.

I can't say for certain, I'd assume that they've read it by now (due to the age of the thread).

I don't think that either rule 1 or rule 8 have been breached. Keep in mind that the person is making genuine posts (regardless of whether they're positive/negative); I've also not seen signs of any concrete threats in the examples presented. I would say (without a detailed analysis) that the involved parties (in the thread where I've participated) have gone completely off-topic in a sense where they've been just talking to each other and about each other. As far as trolling is concerned, this should not be concluded without analyzing/reading the whole thread(s) as something may seem like trolling when it is taken out of context.

No, he's not and there's no way for normal users to check that.

It is still not late to PM either one of them (or grue) and ask for input.

OK. I don't need praise. I have helped very accurately with location via my quoting.
I wasn't looking for Quickly. I was looking for consistency and accuracy.


Yes ok. maybe i should have pm'ed, but I didn't. That first point of contact has now passed.
This is my first report. It is quite extensive. I felt it too complicated to pm.


It does not mean 100% absolutely they have read here.
But I'm pretty sure hilarious and Cyrus have read this thread. 98%.
(i wont wont explain fully but look at the posting times and the thread title)
Anyway, you may agree the odds are very likely?

If the issue is being looked into I would expect a communication about that here.


OK. So in your opinion as a moderator, (albeit not empowered here) do you see any problem with these reported posts?

I don't pretend to fully understand this forums rules.
But I do think I am illustrating clear breaches of those rules in my posts.
And being shunned.

hilariousandco, or CyrusV. Some reply here please.  


Also,
Carlton has not posted since 1/7.
Is he serving a ban? Is there a way to check?

Maybe he took a reality check.

Yes, for using the report-to-moderator function which helps us locate posts that need handling more quickly.

Sending a PM is usually better, but suit yourself.

That does not necessarily have to mean that they have read this thread. They may have read it but are still evaluating the situation. I can't tell you for sure.

They are not.

What aren't I getting here?
In a different new thread in meta, for example, people are being praised for reporting posts.

I have not pm'ed any mod, or used the report button, yet, as I have started this thread.

hilariousandco and Cyrus have both posted in meta today.
I thought they would give me a response.
It Looks like no action is being taken at the moment.

Does that mean the posts I have reported here are of an acceptable standard on Bitcointalk?
Are the rules I quoted out dated?

Even the OP of reported thread wanted mods to act against shit posting.

You can easily see who can moderate what when you overview a section. I did not encourage anything. "They usually have no contributions in any way or form. " - is correct in most cases and thus has nothing to do with ad hominem.

Any global moderator will do: hilariousandco, gruez or CyrusV. It might be worth reporting the other participant of that 'interaction' as well.

To point to what I'm seeing,

1. zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads.
2. off-topic posts.

18 of that category of post, from this 1 thread. All in full, no edits from me.
None of these posts mention anything bitcoin.

I deeply respect Mr Banks's consistency. I have never received a reply from him that wasn't dripping with contempt and condescension. What a guy.

Certainly not much interest here.


OK that post was off topic. Compared to Carlton Banks how many? I then posted here, so as not to encourage a continuation of off topic.
I didn't know you were so powerless in that thread, but as staff I thought you would not encourage members to spam ad hom off topic by quoting his nonsense.


As staff you should set some kind of example.
Either follow the rules or get rid of the rules.

Should I pm Hilariousandco?

I feel good they give you so limited permission. From being here on bitcointalk, I am suprised you even made it up to mod.
Guessing that management wanted to something good and hire a retarded person to get benefits.

Really Lauda check your post from an object point of view, you will know what I mean. Half or full drunk replying here.

Op you seem to be retarded. The first 10 pages is about calling out to mods.
Then you call out to 1 specific mod:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14354754

Looking futher you proof to be an idiot by asking stupid question

This Carlton could be an idiot too. 99% of what he says is bs. Surely a bought account.
No sig. and having more ontopic post then lauda and op combined he can stay. But...

That post is off-topic to the OP as well. I declined to respond on the moderation policy within that thread as I have no say in that section. I am neither able to moderate that section nor am I able to ban a member of such a rank (I can only nuke newbies like other patrollers). If you feel like a user is breaking the rules and deserves to be punished accordingly then the best course of action is usually to PM a global moderator with your 'evidence'.

My personal views are irrelevant. Anyhow, there are equally, or worse 'big blockers' who have yet to be banned due to their rule violations (it's definitely not one-sided; most of the staff doesn't even have a (strong9 opinion on this I think).

Nothing will be done about him.


Edit: made the quote more relevant to my statement and removed part of the quote.

Carlton Banks. u=64205

This member is clearly (in my mind) spamming, trolling, off topic and possibly threatening.
This is my main evidence, although he has done very similar in other threads.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-blocksize-debate-concerns-1520693

I have not pm any mod.
Lauda is posting in above thread, (seemingly off topic and in support of Carlton Banks. example below) So I reasonably assume has seen the offending posts.

OP of above thread said, "The thread will not be moderated so that I should not be accused as a shill. But I hope troll posts or low intellect posts (usually 1 liners) will be removed by forum moderators."

When I saw this post, off topic one liner,

I added this to the end of my post, (which followed above post) to highlight to any watching mod.

(OP had earlier reposted to ask for calm btw)

After Carlton Banks responded back to me, I posted this, (quoting part of his response to me)

Followed by Carlton Banks next reply, (in full)

I then waited.
I thought mods may take action .
OP posted friendly with Carlton Banks couple times.
Lauda posted.

I then asked more directly. (10 hours ago)
To which Carlton Banks replied, (he quotes me)

There are too many post to be too particular.
Any way, the thread is open for viewing.
OP asked for "debate"
OP, Carlton Banks and Lauda are all small blockers.
Carlton Banks has posted 24 times in the last 3 pages. Many many more times in total over 11 pages. (of 20 posts)
(Franky1 is also posting a lot, but is generally far more on topic, far less offensive)

Some rules being extensively and openly abused.

1. zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads.
2. off-topic posts.
3. trolling.
8. threats to inflict bodily harm, death threats. (not quite but..)